Magic in the Muck

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Magic in the Muck: A Soul’s Compass for Change is a transformational podcast that guides listeners through life’s messiest moments — grief, upheaval, uncertainty, and awakening — with grounded wisdom and soulful insight. Hosted by international facilitator, therapist, and best-selling author Jennifer Nagel, this show offers a compass for navigating personal and collective transformation with strength, presence, and purpose. Each episode invites listeners to uncover the hidden magic within life’s challenges — where growth, healing, and realignment often begin. Through honest storytelling, reflective practices, and illuminating conversations, the podcast blends experiential psychology, spiritual awareness, and body-based wisdom to help people live more consciously, compassionately, and courageously. Whether you’re in the thick of chaos or standing at the edge of something new, Magic in the Muck is your sanctuary for inspiration, clarity, and soulful direction.

  1. When Life Changes Everything: Finding Your Way Back to Yourself with Debi Lynn

    2D AGO

    When Life Changes Everything: Finding Your Way Back to Yourself with Debi Lynn

    What happens when life hits — and everything you thought you knew about yourself no longer fits? In this powerful conversation, Jennifer is joined by Debi Lynn, business resilience strategist and grief educator, to explore how women often lose themselves in survival mode after loss, disruption, or major life transitions. Together, they unpack the patterns women fall into under stress, and how healing, self-awareness, and reconnection can lead the way back to clarity, confidence, and congruence. What You’ll Hear: - What happens in the brain and body when we enter survival mode after life disruption - The three common patterns women fall into under stress: the achiever, the carrier, and the giver - How loss of identity often follows major life events - Why community and support are essential for healing — we don’t heal alone - Debi’s HEART framework for rebuilding from the inside out - The importance of reconnecting with your “why” to restore passion, power, and momentum Featured Guest: Debi Lynn Debi Lynn is a Business Resilience Strategist and Certified Grief Educator who helps women rebuild their confidence, clarity, and momentum after life disruptions. Drawing from her own lived experience of profound loss, she supports women in moving from survival mode back into leadership, purpose, and sustainable success. Follow Debi: 🌐 https://heartleadawakening.com 🎁 Free Gift: https://empowerherbonus.com 📱 LinkedIn / Facebook: Debi Lynn TX Meet the Host: Jennifer Nagel Jennifer Nagel is a soul-centered counsellor, international facilitator, and best-selling author who has spent over two decades helping people navigate chaos, reconnect with their inner wisdom, and create meaningful, authentic lives. Deeply rooted in the Satir Model and experiential approaches to transformation, Jennifer brings a grounded presence, sharp insight, and a deep trust in the resources of the human spirit. Her work spans continents and cultures — she has led programs and trainings in Canada, China, Kenya, Thailand, and Mexico, and currently serves as Director of Trainer Development with the Satir Institute of the Pacific. She is also senior faculty with the Banmen Satir China Management Centre. Jennifer is the author of Magic in the Muck: Finding Grace in Chaos, co-author of Virginia Satir’s Evolving Legacy, and founder and co-author of the collaborative books Therapists Are Human Too and The Healing Journey to Authenticity, created through book-writing retreats she co-facilitated in Mexico. Connect with the Host: Website: www.jennifernagelcounselling.com https://www.congruentpractice.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jennifernagel1/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.nagel.566 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifernagelcounselling/ Costa Rica Retreat: Coming Home to Congruence: https://www.congruentpractice.com/costa-rica-retreat If you’re longing for a place to connect with others on a soul-aligned journey of healing, growth, and transformation — come join us in the Magic in the Muck: A Soul’s Compass Community, our private Facebook group. It’s a welcoming space to explore the themes from the podcast, share your own magic-in-the-mess moments, and receive inspiration to navigate life’s changes with grace and soul. 💫 Click here to join the community https://www.facebook.com/groups/magicinthemuck And if you’d like to receive occasional updates about new podcast episodes, upcoming retreats, and other soulful offerings, you can sign up for the Magic in the Muck email list here: 📬 Sign up to stay connected (subscribepage.io/REMTuN) Magic in the Muck: A Soul’s Compass for Change is proud to be on the High Vibe Podcast Network. Check out Jennifer’s Gift in the Vault https://highvibepodcastnetwork.com/gifts Share the Love ✨ If this episode lit something up in you… tag us on Instagram @HighVibeLeaders and let us know your biggest takeaway! 🦋 Don’t forget to rate & review — it helps us reach more conscious rebels like you. Listen & Subscribe 🎧 Apple Podcasts 🎧 Spotify 🎧 Amazon Music 🎧 High Vibe Podcast Network

    25 min
  2. Why Does Something Feel Off? Coming Home to Yourself

    APR 27

    Why Does Something Feel Off? Coming Home to Yourself

    What if the feeling that something is “off” in your life isn’t a flaw to fix — but wisdom trying to reach you? In this solo episode, Jennifer explores the quiet inner conflict many thoughtful, capable people carry: the tension between what we value and how we’re living, between our deeper purpose and the endless demands of daily life, between who we truly are and the roles we’ve learned to play. This is an invitation to listen inward, recognize the signs of misalignment, and begin the gentle journey of coming home to congruence What You’ll Hear: - Why conflict doesn’t only happen in relationships — some of the deepest tension happens within ourselves - Common signs that life is out of alignment: exhaustion, irritability, numbness, procrastination, restlessness, and the fantasy of escape - The hidden gap between your why and your daily reality — and how that creates inner friction - Why so many caring, high-functioning people stay stuck in patterns of over-responsibility and chronic doing - Virginia Satir’s deeper understanding of congruence as a practice of returning to self - How small, truthful adjustments can begin restoring energy, clarity, and alignment Meet the Host: Jennifer Nagel Jennifer Nagel is a soul-centered counsellor, international facilitator, and best-selling author who has spent over two decades helping people navigate chaos, reconnect with their inner wisdom, and create meaningful, authentic lives. Deeply rooted in the Satir Model and experiential approaches to transformation, Jennifer brings a grounded presence, sharp insight, and a deep trust in the resources of the human spirit. Her work spans continents and cultures — she has led programs and trainings in Canada, China, Kenya, Thailand, and Mexico, and currently serves as Director of Trainer Development with the Satir Institute of the Pacific. She is also senior faculty with the Banmen Satir China Management Centre. Jennifer is the author of Magic in the Muck: Finding Grace in Chaos, co-author of Virginia Satir’s Evolving Legacy, and founder and co-author of the collaborative books Therapists Are Human Too and The Healing Journey to Authenticity, created through book-writing retreats she co-facilitated in Mexico. Connect with the Host: Website: www.jennifernagelcounselling.com https://www.congruentpractice.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jennifernagel1/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.nagel.566 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifernagelcounselling/ Costa Rica Retreat: Coming Home to Congruence: https://www.congruentpractice.com/costa-rica-retreat If you’re longing for a place to connect with others on a soul-aligned journey of healing, growth, and transformation — come join us in the Magic in the Muck: A Soul’s Compass Community, our private Facebook group. It’s a welcoming space to explore the themes from the podcast, share your own magic-in-the-mess moments, and receive inspiration to navigate life’s changes with grace and soul. 💫 Click here to join the community https://www.facebook.com/groups/magicinthemuck And if you’d like to receive occasional updates about new podcast episodes, upcoming retreats, and other soulful offerings, you can sign up for the Magic in the Muck email list here: 📬 Sign up to stay connected (subscribepage.io/REMTuN) Magic in the Muck: A Soul’s Compass for Change is proud to be on the High Vibe Podcast Network. Check out Jennifer’s Gift in the Vault https://highvibepodcastnetwork.com/gifts Share the Love ✨ If this episode lit something up in you… tag us on Instagram @HighVibeLeaders and let us know your biggest takeaway! 🦋 Don’t forget to rate & review — it helps us reach more conscious rebels like you. Listen & Subscribe 🎧 Apple Podcasts 🎧 Spotify 🎧 Amazon Music 🎧 High Vibe Podcast Network

    18 min
  3. The Hidden Wisdom in Conflict: What Tension Is Really Trying to Teach Us — with Robyn McTague

    APR 20

    The Hidden Wisdom in Conflict: What Tension Is Really Trying to Teach Us — with Robyn McTague

    Conflict is something most of us try to avoid — yet it often holds powerful insight about our needs, our patterns, and our relationships. In this conversation, Jennifer Nagel sits down with conflict resolution specialist Robyn McTague to explore how tension can become a doorway to deeper self-awareness, compassion, and connection. Together they unpack how curiosity, honesty, and inner work can transform conflict from something we fear into something that guides growth. What You’ll Hear: • Why conflict isn’t something we can eliminate — and how learning to navigate it is a lifelong skill • How our early experiences and family patterns shape the way we respond to tension in relationships • The hidden gap between how we see ourselves and how we actually show up in the world • Why curiosity toward ourselves is one of the most powerful tools for resolving conflict • The role of compassion and self-kindness in transforming reactive patterns • Simple practices that can help bring us back to ourselves when we feel triggered or overwhelmed Resources Mentioned: - Episode 11 (previous interview with Robyn) - Costa Rica Retreat: Coming Home to Congruence: https://www.congruentpractice.com/costa-rica-retreat Featured Guest: Robyn McTague Robyn McTague is a conflict resolution specialist and speaker helping individuals, couples, and teams turn tension into connection. Blending psychology, counselling, and lived experience, she supports clients in breaking patterns of unresolved conflict and building healthier relationships. As founder of A Life of Choice, her work is grounded in curiosity, compassion, and the belief that conflict can lead to clarity and growth. Follow Robyn: Website: alifeofchoice.ca LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robynmctague Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/robynmct/ Free Gift: https://robynmctague.com/relationshipmeditation Meet the Host: Jennifer Nagel Jennifer Nagel is a soul-centered counsellor, international facilitator, and best-selling author who has spent over two decades helping people navigate chaos, reconnect with their inner wisdom, and create meaningful, authentic lives. Deeply rooted in the Satir Model and experiential approaches to transformation, Jennifer brings a grounded presence, sharp insight, and a deep trust in the resources of the human spirit. Her work spans continents and cultures — she has led programs and trainings in Canada, China, Kenya, Thailand, and Mexico, and currently serves as Director of Trainer Development with the Satir Institute of the Pacific. She is also senior faculty with the Banmen Satir China Management Centre. Jennifer is the author of Magic in the Muck: Finding Grace in Chaos, co-author of Virginia Satir’s Evolving Legacy, and founder and co-author of the collaborative books Therapists Are Human Too and The Healing Journey to Authenticity, created through book-writing retreats she co-facilitated in Mexico. Connect with the Host: Website: www.jennifernagelcounselling.com https://www.congruentpractice.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jennifernagel1/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.nagel.566 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifernagelcounselling/ Costa Rica Retreat: Coming Home to Congruence: https://www.congruentpractice.com/costa-rica-retreat If you’re longing for a place to connect with others on a soul-aligned journey of healing, growth, and transformation — come join us in the Magic in the Muck: A Soul’s Compass Community, our private Facebook group. It’s a welcoming space to explore the themes from the podcast, share your own magic-in-the-mess moments, and receive inspiration to navigate life’s changes with grace and soul. 💫 Click here to join the community https://www.facebook.com/groups/magicinthemuck And if you’d like to receive occasional updates about new podcast episodes, upcoming retreats, and other soulful offerings, you can sign up for the Magic in the Muck email list here: 📬 Sign up to stay connected (subscribepage.io/REMTuN) Magic in the Muck: A Soul’s Compass for Change is proud to be on the High Vibe Podcast Network. Check out Jennifer’s Gift in the Vault https://highvibepodcastnetwork.com/gifts Share the Love ✨ If this episode lit something up in you… tag us on Instagram @HighVibeLeaders and let us know your biggest takeaway! 🦋 Don’t forget to rate & review — it helps us reach more conscious rebels like you. Listen & Subscribe 🎧 Apple Podcasts 🎧 Spotify 🎧 Amazon Music 🎧 High Vibe Podcast Network

    24 min
  4. Navigating Grief After Loss: Healing, Love, and Life After Losing Someone You Love — with Tina Weller

    APR 13

    Navigating Grief After Loss: Healing, Love, and Life After Losing Someone You Love — with Tina Weller

    Grief doesn’t mean the end of love. In this moving conversation, grief educator Tina Weller shares how loss reshapes our sense of self, how memories keep relationships alive, and how healing unfolds when we allow grief to become part of the journey forward. What You’ll Hear: Why grief exists only because love came first — and how remembering that can shift how we hold loss The deeply personal process of rediscovering who you are after losing someone central to your lifeWhy grief has no timeline, and how honoring your own pace is part of healingHow continuing to speak a loved one’s name can keep their presence alive in meaningful waysThe healing power of community and shared stories in navigating lossHow Tina transformed her grief journey into a mission to support other grieving women Resources Mentioned Follow the Miracle Bus journey: Facebook –Miracle Bus.Costa Rica Retreat: Coming Home to Congruence: https://www.congruentpractice.com/costa-rica-retreat Featured Guest: Tina Weller Tina Weller is a Grief Educator and Master Practitioner who supports individuals navigating life after loss. She supports others in reconnecting with purpose, regaining clarity, and cultivating the courage to move forward. Tina’s gentle approach empowers the grieving to embrace resilience and step into what comes next—while still honoring the love that remains. Follow Tina Weller, Grief Educator and Master Practitioner: - For more information on how to “Ease Into The New You , After Loss”: https://journeywithgoodthings.com - https://www.facebook.com/athomewithtina/ - Follow the Journey of The Miracle Bus on Facebook with https://www.facebook.com/themiraclebus/ Meet the Host: Jennifer Nagel Jennifer Nagel is a soul-centered counsellor, international facilitator, and best-selling author who has spent over two decades helping people navigate chaos, reconnect with their inner wisdom, and create meaningful, authentic lives. Deeply rooted in the Satir Model and experiential approaches to transformation, Jennifer brings a grounded presence, sharp insight, and a deep trust in the resources of the human spirit. Her work spans continents and cultures — she has led programs and trainings in Canada, China, Kenya, Thailand, and Mexico, and currently serves as Director of Trainer Development with the Satir Institute of the Pacific. She is also senior faculty with the Banmen Satir China Management Centre. Jennifer is the author of Magic in the Muck: Finding Grace in Chaos, co-author of Virginia Satir’s Evolving Legacy, and founder and co-author of the collaborative books Therapists Are Human Too and The Healing Journey to Authenticity, created through book-writing retreats she co-facilitated in Mexico. Connect with the Host: Website: www.jennifernagelcounselling.com https://www.congruentpractice.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jennifernagel1/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.nagel.566 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifernagelcounselling/ Costa Rica Retreat: Coming Home to Congruence: https://www.congruentpractice.com/costa-rica-retreat If you’re longing for a place to connect with others on a soul-aligned journey of healing, growth, and transformation — come join us in the Magic in the Muck: A Soul’s Compass Community, our private Facebook group. It’s a welcoming space to explore the themes from the podcast, share your own magic-in-the-mess moments, and receive inspiration to navigate life’s changes with grace and soul. 💫 Click here to join the community https://www.facebook.com/groups/magicinthemuck And if you’d like to receive occasional updates about new podcast episodes, upcoming retreats, and other soulful offerings, you can sign up for the Magic in the Muck email list here: 📬 Sign up to stay connected (subscribepage.io/REMTuN) Magic in the Muck: A Soul’s Compass for Change is proud to be on the High Vibe Podcast Network. Check out Jennifer’s Gift in the Vault https://highvibepodcastnetwork.com/gifts Share the Love ✨ If this episode lit something up in you… tag us on Instagram @HighVibeLeaders and let us know your biggest takeaway! 🦋 Don’t forget to rate & review — it helps us reach more conscious rebels like you. Listen & Subscribe 🎧 Apple Podcasts 🎧 Spotify 🎧 Amazon Music 🎧 High Vibe Podcast Network

    26 min
  5. Rethinking Self-Care: Simple Practices to Reset Stress and Find Your Way Back with Vivianne Winters Israel

    APR 6

    Rethinking Self-Care: Simple Practices to Reset Stress and Find Your Way Back with Vivianne Winters Israel

    When life feels overwhelming, we often think we need something big to shift it—but sometimes it’s the smallest moments that bring us back. In this conversation, Vivianne Winters Israel shares how simple, intentional practices can help you reconnect with yourself and find steadiness in the midst of chaos. What You’ll Hear: - Why true self-care isn’t about escape—but about returning to yourself, even in the middle of stress - How small, consistent moments of awareness can gently shift your nervous system over time - Vivianne’s personal journey through illness and adversity—and what it taught her about resilience - A simple, guided reset you can come back to when you feel overwhelmed or pulled out of yourself Resources: 1. Free Gift: List of the six most powerful true self-care tools Vivianne have explored over two decades and use regularly: “Empowered Self-Care Resources”. https://vivwi.me/selfcare1 2. Costa Rica Retreat: Coming Home to Congruence: https://www.congruentpractice.com/costa-rica-retreat Featured Guest: Vivianne Winters Israel Vivianne Winters Israel Registered Nurse; Mom, cancer survivor; motivational speaker; published author, Tender Moments: Diary of a First-time Mother (Benjamin Franklin Silver Award); co-author Amazon Bestseller Life by Design: Leverage, Legacy & Lifestyle; authoring the children’s novel series “Abby Hart”; acknowledgements American Biographical Institute Golden Lifetime Achievement Award; Member: Independent Book Publishers Association; Authors Guild; Developer of The Stress-Eraser Experience. Follow Vivianne Winters Israel: Website: https://viviannewintersisrael.com or http://vivwi.me/ Bus. Email: hello@VivWI.me Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/viviannewi_childrens_author Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/An.Authors.Journey.into.Childrens.Fiction.FORUM 1. Link to my blog post “The Universal Power of True Self-Care: Empowering Lives Across All Walks of Life” https://viviannewintersisrael.com/blog/the-universal-power-of-true-self-care-empowering-lives-across-all-walks-of-life 2.My list of the six most powerful true self-care tools I have explored over two decades and use regularly: “Empowered Self-Care Resources”. https://vivwi.me/selfcare You're bound to resonate with at least one. Access to tool #2 is free, and once learned, only takes 90 seconds; #1 taking only 5-20 seconds. (No affiliate links) These three key points can help you be prepared for in the event of a life crisis: 1) individuals need powerful, easily accessible self-care tools to minimize mental and emotional turmoil during life crises1 2) the tools you choose must be practiced regularly in order to serve you when most needed 3) explore and practice powerful self-care tools now, so they are second nature before you most need them. The bonus side-effect: they will also enhance your everyday life. 1Lerner, Jennifer, “Emotion and Decision Making”, Annual Review of Psychology, vol. 66, January 2015, pp. 799-823, https://www.annualreviews.org/doi/abs/10.1146/annurev-psych-010213-115043 To learn about the new "Stress-Eraser Experience" visit the Pre-registration Waitlist Page. There, you can also choose to be notified when the next class/group will open for registration: https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vRIhNZW-AlqFfx_jnD_AjgWf_vSZmQzEa_KYehG5HJRhXbB2iRJFt9wUzV9u2jEHWKzc1Qd1k958i2p/pub Meet the Host: Jennifer Nagel Jennifer Nagel is a soul-centered counsellor, international facilitator, and best-selling author who has spent over two decades helping people navigate chaos, reconnect with their inner wisdom, and create meaningful, authentic lives. Deeply rooted in the Satir Model and experiential approaches to transformation, Jennifer brings a grounded presence, sharp insight, and a deep trust in the resources of the human spirit. Her work spans continents and cultures — she has led programs and trainings in Canada, China, Kenya, Thailand, and Mexico, and currently serves as Director of Trainer Development with the Satir Institute of the Pacific. She is also senior faculty with the Banmen Satir China Management Centre. Jennifer is the author of Magic in the Muck: Finding Grace in Chaos, co-author of Virginia Satir’s Evolving Legacy, and founder and co-author of the collaborative books Therapists Are Human Too and The Healing Journey to Authenticity, created through book-writing retreats she co-facilitated in Mexico. Connect with the Host: Website: www.jennifernagelcounselling.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jennifernagel1/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.nagel.566 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifernagelcounselling/ If you’re longing for a place to connect with others on a soul-aligned journey of healing, growth, and transformation — come join us in the Magic in the Muck: A Soul’s Compass Community, our private Facebook group. It’s a welcoming space to explore the themes from the podcast, share your own magic-in-the-mess moments, and receive inspiration to navigate life’s changes with grace and soul. 💫 Click here to join the community https://www.facebook.com/groups/magicinthemuck And if you’d like to receive occasional updates about new podcast episodes, upcoming retreats, and other soulful offerings, you can sign up for the Magic in the Muck email list here: 📬 Sign up to stay connected (subscribepage.io/REMTuN) Magic in the Muck: A Soul’s Compass for Change is proud to be on the High Vibe Podcast Network. Check out Jennifer’s Gift in the Vault https://highvibepodcastnetwork.com/gifts Share the Love ✨ If this episode lit something up in you… tag us on Instagram @HighVibeLeaders and let us know your biggest takeaway! 🦋 Don’t forget to rate & review — it helps us reach more conscious rebels like you. Listen & Subscribe 🎧 Apple Podcasts 🎧 Spotify 🎧 Amazon Music 🎧 High Vibe Podcast Network

    24 min
  6. The Space Between Who You Are and How You’re Living

    MAR 30

    The Space Between Who You Are and How You’re Living

    Burnout doesn’t always look like breaking down—it often looks like holding it all together while quietly losing touch with yourself. This episode invites you to notice where that gap exists… and begin gently coming home. What You’ll Hear: Why burnout isn’t always loud—and how it often shows up as “functioning”The subtle internal “gap” between who we are and how we’re livingHow over-functioning and productivity can quietly pull us out of alignmentCongruence as a lived, moment-to-moment experience—not something to achieveThe power of pausing instead of pushingSmall, honest ways to begin returning to yourself A Moment to Reflect Where in your life are you still showing up… but not fully there? And what is one small way you could begin to close that gap this week? Resources Mentioned Episode 32: Burnout, Boundaries & Belonging: How to Come Back to Yourself as a Therapist or Leader with Lisa Catallo Costa Rica Retreat: Coming Home to Congruence: https://www.congruentpractice.com/costa-rica-retreat Meet the Host: Jennifer Nagel Jennifer Nagel is a soul-centered counsellor, international facilitator, and best-selling author who has spent over two decades helping people navigate chaos, reconnect with their inner wisdom, and create meaningful, authentic lives. Deeply rooted in the Satir Model and experiential approaches to transformation, Jennifer brings a grounded presence, sharp insight, and a deep trust in the resources of the human spirit. Her work spans continents and cultures — she has led programs and trainings in Canada, China, Kenya, Thailand, and Mexico, and currently serves as Director of Trainer Development with the Satir Institute of the Pacific. She is also senior faculty with the Banmen Satir China Management Centre. Jennifer is the author of Magic in the Muck: Finding Grace in Chaos, co-author of Virginia Satir’s Evolving Legacy, and founder and co-author of the collaborative books Therapists Are Human Too and The Healing Journey to Authenticity, created through book-writing retreats she co-facilitated in Mexico. Connect with the Host: Website: www.jennifernagelcounselling.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jennifernagel1/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.nagel.566 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifernagelcounselling/ If you’re longing for a place to connect with others on a soul-aligned journey of healing, growth, and transformation — come join us in the Magic in the Muck: A Soul’s Compass Community, our private Facebook group. It’s a welcoming space to explore the themes from the podcast, share your own magic-in-the-mess moments, and receive inspiration to navigate life’s changes with grace and soul. 💫 Click here to join the community https://www.facebook.com/groups/magicinthemuck And if you’d like to receive occasional updates about new podcast episodes, upcoming retreats, and other soulful offerings, you can sign up for the Magic in the Muck email list here: 📬 Sign up to stay connected (subscribepage.io/REMTuN) Magic in the Muck: A Soul’s Compass for Change is proud to be on the High Vibe Podcast Network. Check out Jennifer’s Gift in the Vault https://highvibepodcastnetwork.com/gifts Share the Love ✨ If this episode lit something up in you… tag us on Instagram @HighVibeLeaders and let us know your biggest takeaway! 🦋 Don’t forget to rate & review — it helps us reach more conscious rebels like you. Listen & Subscribe 🎧 Apple Podcasts 🎧 Spotify 🎧 Amazon Music 🎧 High Vibe Podcast Network

    10 min
  7. Burnout, Boundaries & Belonging: How to Come Back to Yourself as a Therapist or Leader with Lisa Catallo

    MAR 23

    Burnout, Boundaries & Belonging: How to Come Back to Yourself as a Therapist or Leader with Lisa Catallo

    What does it really mean to lead from a place of congruence—especially when you’re exhausted, overwhelmed, or quietly questioning yourself? In this deeply honest conversation, Jennifer Nagel sits down with therapist, coach, and group practice mentor Lisa Catallo to explore the messy, human side of leadership. Together, they unpack burnout, boundaries, imposter syndrome, and the quiet loneliness many therapists and leaders carry behind the scenes. This episode is an invitation to reconnect with yourself, reclaim your voice, and discover how the “muck” can become the very place where alignment, authenticity, and transformation begin. What You’ll Hear: Congruence isn’t a concept—it’s a practice. You can’t guide others toward authenticity while abandoning your own needs. True leadership begins with living what you invite others into.Burnout is often a signal of disconnection, not failure. What feels like “mess” is often the moment your deeper self is asking for attention, boundaries, and change.Boundaries are sacred, not selfish. A true “yes” and a true “no” both come from alignment—and both are essential for sustainable leadership and relationships.You were never meant to do this alone. Many therapists and leaders carry immense responsibility in isolation. Healing, growth, and resilience deepen in community.The muck holds the medicine. The very experiences that feel most disorienting often become the source of your clarity, compassion, and credibility as a leader. Resources Mentioned Costa Rica Retreat (Jan 31 – Feb 5, 2027):https://www.congruentpractice.com/costa-rica-retreatCongruent Practice Facebook Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/congruentpractice Featured Guest: Lisa Catallo Lisa Catallo is a therapist, coach, and group practice mentor who supports therapists and practice owners in building work that feels sustainable, aligned, and grounded. With over a decade of clinical experience and leadership in group practice ownership, she brings a unique blend of structure, relational depth, and real-world insight to the evolving landscape of therapeutic work. Follow Lisa: Website: https://www.grouppracticenetwork.ca Meet the Host: Jennifer Nagel Jennifer Nagel is a soul-centered counsellor, international facilitator, and best-selling author who has spent over two decades helping people navigate chaos, reconnect with their inner wisdom, and create meaningful, authentic lives. Deeply rooted in the Satir Model and experiential approaches to transformation, Jennifer brings a grounded presence, sharp insight, and a deep trust in the resources of the human spirit. Her work spans continents and cultures — she has led programs and trainings in Canada, China, Kenya, Thailand, and Mexico, and currently serves as Director of Trainer Development with the Satir Institute of the Pacific. She is also senior faculty with the Banmen Satir China Management Centre. Jennifer is the author of Magic in the Muck: Finding Grace in Chaos, co-author of Virginia Satir’s Evolving Legacy, and founder and co-author of the collaborative books Therapists Are Human Too and The Healing Journey to Authenticity, created through book-writing retreats she co-facilitated in Mexico. Connect with the Host: Website: www.jennifernagelcounselling.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jennifernagel1/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.nagel.566 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifernagelcounselling/ If you’re longing for a place to connect with others on a soul-aligned journey of healing, growth, and transformation — come join us in the Magic in the Muck: A Soul’s Compass Community, our private Facebook group. It’s a welcoming space to explore the themes from the podcast, share your own magic-in-the-mess moments, and receive inspiration to navigate life’s changes with grace and soul. 💫 Click here to join the community https://www.facebook.com/groups/magicinthemuck And if you’d like to receive occasional updates about new podcast episodes, upcoming retreats, and other soulful offerings, you can sign up for the Magic in the Muck email list here: 📬 Sign up to stay connected (subscribepage.io/REMTuN) Magic in the Muck: A Soul’s Compass for Change is proud to be on the High Vibe Podcast Network. Check out Jennifer’s Gift in the Vault https://highvibepodcastnetwork.com/gifts Share the Love ✨ If this episode lit something up in you… tag us on Instagram @HighVibeLeaders and let us know your biggest takeaway! 🦋 Don’t forget to rate & review — it helps us reach more conscious rebels like you. Listen & Subscribe 🎧 Apple Podcasts 🎧 Spotify 🎧 Amazon Music 🎧 High Vibe Podcast Network

    33 min
  8. Coming Home to Congruence: A Guided Practice for Returning to Yourself

    MAR 9

    Coming Home to Congruence: A Guided Practice for Returning to Yourself

    After several powerful conversations about healing in community and care for the caregiver, this episode offers something simple and restorative: a guided practice to help you return to congruence — the place where your body, thoughts, emotions, and spirit move back into harmony. If you spend your days supporting others, this episode is a moment to pause, reconnect with yourself, and remember that you don’t have to carry everything alone. What You’ll Hear: What congruence really means in the deeper Satir Model senseWhy helpers and caregivers often drift away from their own centreA gentle guided practice to reconnect with your inner presenceHow returning to yourself allows connection with others to flow more naturallyWhy congruence isn’t something we achieve once — but something we return to Related Episodes: Episode 28 – Healing in Community with Merissa TurnerEpisode 29 – Witnessing Stories with Care with Gary TurnerEpisode 30 – Coming Home to Yourself: Care for the Caregiver and Healing in Community Meet the Host: Jennifer Nagel Jennifer Nagel is a soul-centered counsellor, international facilitator, and best-selling author who has spent over two decades helping people navigate chaos, reconnect with their inner wisdom, and create meaningful, authentic lives. Deeply rooted in the Satir Model and experiential approaches to transformation, Jennifer brings a grounded presence, sharp insight, and a deep trust in the resources of the human spirit. Her work spans continents and cultures — she has led programs and trainings in Canada, China, Kenya, Thailand, and Mexico, and currently serves as Director of Trainer Development with the Satir Institute of the Pacific. She is also senior faculty with the Banmen Satir China Management Centre. Jennifer is the author of Magic in the Muck: Finding Grace in Chaos, co-author of Virginia Satir’s Evolving Legacy, and founder and co-author of the collaborative books Therapists Are Human Too and The Healing Journey to Authenticity, created through book-writing retreats she co-facilitated in Mexico. Connect with the Host: Website: www.jennifernagelcounselling.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jennifernagel1/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.nagel.566 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifernagelcounselling/ Costa Rica Retreat: Coming Home to Congruence - https://www.congruentpractice.com/costa-rica-retreat If you’re longing for a place to connect with others on a soul-aligned journey of healing, growth, and transformation — come join us in the Magic in the Muck: A Soul’s Compass Community, our private Facebook group. It’s a welcoming space to explore the themes from the podcast, share your own magic-in-the-mess moments, and receive inspiration to navigate life’s changes with grace and soul. 💫 Click here to join the community https://www.facebook.com/groups/magicinthemuck And if you’d like to receive occasional updates about new podcast episodes, upcoming retreats, and other soulful offerings, you can sign up for the Magic in the Muck email list here: 📬 Sign up to stay connected (subscribepage.io/REMTuN) Magic in the Muck: A Soul’s Compass for Change is proud to be on the High Vibe Podcast Network. Check out Jennifer’s Gift in the Vault https://highvibepodcastnetwork.com/gifts Share the Love ✨ If this episode lit something up in you… tag us on Instagram @HighVibeLeaders and let us know your biggest takeaway! 🦋 Don’t forget to rate & review — it helps us reach more conscious rebels like you. Listen & Subscribe 🎧 Apple Podcasts 🎧 Spotify 🎧 Amazon Music 🎧 High Vibe Podcast Network

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Magic in the Muck: A Soul’s Compass for Change is a transformational podcast that guides listeners through life’s messiest moments — grief, upheaval, uncertainty, and awakening — with grounded wisdom and soulful insight. Hosted by international facilitator, therapist, and best-selling author Jennifer Nagel, this show offers a compass for navigating personal and collective transformation with strength, presence, and purpose. Each episode invites listeners to uncover the hidden magic within life’s challenges — where growth, healing, and realignment often begin. Through honest storytelling, reflective practices, and illuminating conversations, the podcast blends experiential psychology, spiritual awareness, and body-based wisdom to help people live more consciously, compassionately, and courageously. Whether you’re in the thick of chaos or standing at the edge of something new, Magic in the Muck is your sanctuary for inspiration, clarity, and soulful direction.

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