125 episodes

Listen to Mind Over Murder, the true crime podcast from victim's advocates Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley. Kristin is a researcher, writer and teacher from Williamsburg, VA. Bill is an entertainment executive who sadly is the brother of a murder victim. His sister Cathy Thomas along with her girlfriend Rebecca Dowski, were the first two victims in the Colonial Parkway Murders ,which claimed the lives of 8 young people near Williamsburg from 1986 to 1989. Together, they moderate the Colonial Parkway Murders FB page with more than 14,000 followers. Now marking 125 episodes and 500,000 downloads as they celebrate their second podcast anniversary! Join them for thoughtful true crime conversation.

Mind Over Murder Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley

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    • 4.5 • 287 Ratings

Listen to Mind Over Murder, the true crime podcast from victim's advocates Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley. Kristin is a researcher, writer and teacher from Williamsburg, VA. Bill is an entertainment executive who sadly is the brother of a murder victim. His sister Cathy Thomas along with her girlfriend Rebecca Dowski, were the first two victims in the Colonial Parkway Murders ,which claimed the lives of 8 young people near Williamsburg from 1986 to 1989. Together, they moderate the Colonial Parkway Murders FB page with more than 14,000 followers. Now marking 125 episodes and 500,000 downloads as they celebrate their second podcast anniversary! Join them for thoughtful true crime conversation.

    BONUS: Murder Accountability Project: Why Are So Many Murders Unsolved? (Part 1)

    BONUS: Murder Accountability Project: Why Are So Many Murders Unsolved? (Part 1)

    Join "Mind Over Murder" co-hosts Kristin Dilley and Bill Thomas as they interview Thomas Hargrove, founder of the Murder Accountability Project to find out why so many murders are going unsolved, and how the data compiled by the Murder Accountability Project can help law enforcement get the resources needed to solve more cases. This is part 1 of 2 episodes.

    Murder Accountability Project: http://www.murderdata.org/

    Citizens! Check out our new line of "Mind Over Murder" t-shirts and other good stuff !

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    The Colonial Parkway Murders were the subject of a new four-part television series, "The Lover's Lane Murders," which made its debut on the Oxygen Network on Feb 11, 2021:
    https://www.oxygen.com/lovers-lane-murders

    Who Were The Colonial Parkway Murder Victims? 8 Young People All Killed In Virginia Within 4 Years
    https://www.oxygen.com/lovers-lane-murders/crime-news/who-were-the-colonial-parkway-murder-victims

    Washington Post Magazine: "Victims, Families and America’s Thirst for True-Crime Stories." "For Bill Thomas, his sister Cathy’s murder is a deeply personal tragedy. For millions of true-crime fans, it’s entertainment." https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/magazine/wp/2019/07/30/feature/victims-families-and-americas-thirst-for-true-crime-stories/

    Daily Press excellent series of articles on the Colonial Parkway Murders: http://digital.dailypress.com/static/parkway_cottage/main/index.html

    Dateline NBC Crime Capsule: Colonial Parkway Murders https://www.nbcnews.com/dateline/video/dateline-crime-capsule-the-colonial-parkway-murders-1353827907555

    Colonial Parkway Murders Facebook page with more than 14,000 followers: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase

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    • 41 min
    NEW: Malcom X Exoneration

    NEW: Malcom X Exoneration

    Join "Mind Over Murder" podcast hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley as we discuss the case of Malcolm X, the civil rights leader who was assassinated at the Audubon Ballroom in Washington Heights, New York City on February 21, 1965. Two men were recently exonerated in Malcolm X's murder: Muhammad Aziz (born Norman Butler), 83, and the late Khalil Islam, born Thomas Johnson, who died in 2009. It appears that both the New York Police Department and the FBI withheld information that would have cleared these men of involvement at their 1966 murder trial. They spent a combined total of 42 years in prison for a murder they did not commit.

    NY Times: 2 Men Convicted of Killing Malcolm X Will Be Exonerated After Decades

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/17/nyregion/malcolm-x-killing-exonerated.html

    NY Times: Exoneration Is ‘Bittersweet’ for Men Cleared in Malcolm X’s Murder

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/18/nyregion/khalil-islam-muhammad-aziz-exonerated.html

    Innocence Project: Historic and Long Overdue Exonerations of Muhammad A. Aziz and Khalil Islam for the 1965 Assassination of Malcolm X

    https://innocenceproject.org/historic-exonerations-muhammad-aziz-khalil-islam-1965-assassination-of-malcolm-x/

    New Article in Virginia Gazette: 35 Years Later, Victims’ Families in Colonial Parkway Murders Still Searching for Answers, Hope DNA Advances will Solve Case By Em Holter and Abigail Adcox

    https://www.dailypress.com/virginiagazette/va-vg-colonial-parkway-murders-anniversary-1024-20211022-76jkpte6qvez7onybmhbhp7nfi-story.html

    New Article in Medium: The Colonial Parkway Murders — A Tale of Two Killers? By Quinn Zane

    https://medium.com/unburied/the-colonial-parkway-murders-a-tale-of-two-killers-1e8fda367a48

    Washington Post: "Crimes of Passion"

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1997/08/15/crimes-of-passion/0a38e8f9-6d04-48e4-a847-7d3cba53c363/

    New feature article in the Daily Beast: "Inside the Maddening Search for Virginia’s Colonial Parkway Serial Killer" By Justin Rohrlich

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/what-happened-to-cathleen-thomas-and-rebecca-dowski-inside-the-hunt-for-the-colonial-parkway-killer

    Citizens! Check out our new line of "Mind Over Murder" t-shirts and other good stuff !

    https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mind-over-murder-podcast?ref_id=23885

    Washington Post Op-Ed Piece by Deidre Enright of the Innocence Project:

    "The FBI should use DNA, not posters, to solve a cold-case murder"

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/06/25/julie-williams-laura-winans-unsolved-murder-test-dna/

    Oxygen: "Loni Coombs Feels A Kinship...

    • 40 min
    BONUS: Author Ron Peterson Jr. on Gina Renee Hall, First Virginia "No Body" Prosecution

    BONUS: Author Ron Peterson Jr. on Gina Renee Hall, First Virginia "No Body" Prosecution

    Join Mind Over Murder co-hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley as they discuss the case of Gina Renee Hall, the first first 'No Body' homicide prosecuted in Virginia, with author Ron Peterson Jr., author of the book "Under the Trestle: The 1980 Disappearance of Gina Renee Hall & Virginia’s First “No Body” Murder Trial."

    Author Ron Peterson, Jr: website: https://www.ronpetersonjr.com/

    Goodreads: Under the Trestle: The 1980 Disappearance of Gina Renee Hall & Virginia’s First “No Body” Murder Trial.

    https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/43331808-under-the-trestle

    Amazon: Under the Trestle: The 1980 Disappearance of Gina Renee Hall & Virginia’s First “No Body” Murder Trial.

    https://www.amazon.com/Under-Trestle-Disappearance-Virginias-Murder/dp/1532063490

    Citizens! Check out our new line of "Mind Over Murder" t-shirts and other good stuff !

    https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mind-over-murder-podcast?ref_id=23885

    Washington Post Op-Ed Piece by Deidre Enright of the Innocence Project:

    "The FBI should use DNA, not posters, to solve a cold-case murder"

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/06/25/julie-williams-laura-winans-unsolved-murder-test-dna/

    Story on Oxygen: "Loni Coombs Feels A Kinship To 'Lovers' Lane' Victim Cathy Thomas"

    Loni Coombs felt an immediate connection to Cathy Thomas, a groundbreaking gay woman who broke through barriers at the U.S. Naval Academy before she was brutally murdered along the Colonial Parkway in Virginia.

    https://www.oxygen.com/crime-news/loni-coombs-feels-a-kinship-to-colonial-parkway-victim-cathy-thomas

    NYT: Two Montana Sweethearts Were Fatally Shot in 1956. The Case Was Just Solved.

    The Cascade County Sheriff’s Office said it appeared to be the oldest homicide case in the United States to be solved with genetic genealogy.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/11/us/great-falls-montana-2007-homicide-dna.html

    CrimeCon will be held April 29-May 1, 2022 in Las Vegas. We will both be there!

    Details: https://www.crimecon.com/cc22

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    Join the Colonial Parkway Murders Facebook page with more than 14,000 followers: https://www.facebook.com/ColonialParkwayCase

    4 episodes on the Colonial Parkway Murders are available on Oxygen as "The Lover's Lane Murders." The series is available on the free Oxygen app, Hulu, YouTube, Amazon, and many other platforms. https://www.oxygen.com/lovers-lane-murders

    Oxygen" "Who Were The Colonial Parkway Murder Victims? 8 Young People All Killed In...

    • 43 min
    NEW: Groveland Four Exoneration

    NEW: Groveland Four Exoneration

    Join "Mind Over Murder" podcast hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley as we discuss the case of the Groveland Four, four young Florida men who were charged with raping a young woman in a 1949 rape that likely never occurred. They were recently exonerated by the State of Florida after being railroaded by a corrupt Lake County, Florida sheriff, deputies, investigators and judges.

    NYT: Four Black Men Wrongly Charged With Rape Are Exonerated 72 Years Later

    The men, known as the Groveland Four, were cleared on Monday after a Florida prosecutor said “a complete breakdown of the criminal justice system” led to the charges in 1949.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/22/us/groveland-four-exonerated-florida.html

    People: 'Groveland Four' Posthumously Exonerated Over 70 Years After Being Wrongly Accused of Raping Woman

    https://people.com/crime/groveland-four-exonerated-after-being-accused-of-rape-in-1949/

    CNN: 4 Black men exonerated more than 70 years after being wrongly accused of raping a White teen girl

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/22/us/groveland-four-exonerated-florida/index.html

    "Devil in the Grove: Thurgood Marshall, the Groveland Boys, and the Dawn of a New America."

    https://www.amazon.com/Devil-Grove-Thurgood-Marshall-Groveland/dp/0061792268

    New Article in Virginia Gazette: 35 Years Later, Victims’ Families in Colonial Parkway Murders Still Searching for Answers, Hope DNA Advances will Solve Case By Em Holter and Abigail Adcox

    https://www.dailypress.com/virginiagazette/va-vg-colonial-parkway-murders-anniversary-1024-20211022-76jkpte6qvez7onybmhbhp7nfi-story.html

    New Article in Medium: The Colonial Parkway Murders — A Tale of Two Killers? By Quinn Zane

    https://medium.com/unburied/the-colonial-parkway-murders-a-tale-of-two-killers-1e8fda367a48

    Washington Post: "Crimes of Passion"

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1997/08/15/crimes-of-passion/0a38e8f9-6d04-48e4-a847-7d3cba53c363/

    New feature article in the Daily Beast: "Inside the Maddening Search for Virginia’s Colonial Parkway Serial Killer" By Justin Rohrlich

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/what-happened-to-cathleen-thomas-and-rebecca-dowski-inside-the-hunt-for-the-colonial-parkway-killer

    Citizens! Check out our new line of "Mind Over Murder" t-shirts and other good stuff !

    https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mind-over-murder-podcast?ref_id=23885

    Washington Post Op-Ed Piece by Deidre Enright of the Innocence Project:

    "The FBI should use DNA, not posters, to solve a cold-case murder"

    a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/06/25/julie-williams-laura-winans-unsolved-murder-test-dna/"...

    • 35 min
    BONUS: Gina Renee Hall, First "No Body' Homicide in Virginia (Part 2)

    BONUS: Gina Renee Hall, First "No Body' Homicide in Virginia (Part 2)

    Join "Mind Over Murder" podcast hosts Bill Thomas and Kristin Dilley as they discuss the case of Gina Renee Hall, the first first 'No Body' Homicide prosecuted in Virginia. This is Part 2 of 2 episodes.

    Murderpedia: Stephen M. Epperly

    https://murderpedia.org/male.E/e/epperly-stephen.htm

    Roanoke Times: Gina Hall murder case: Pulaski Co. prosecutor opposes parole for Epperly

    https://roanoke.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/gina-hall-murder-case-pulaski-co-prosecutor-opposes-parole-for-epperly/article_dcd72a6c-a153-11eb-90e4-bb107af9416c.html

    Southwest Virginia Times: Epperly called ‘ticking time bomb’

    https://www.southwesttimes.com/2021/06/epperly-called-ticking-time-bomb-2/

    New Article in Virginia Gazette: 35 Years Later, Victims’ Families in Colonial Parkway Murders Still Searching for Answers, Hope DNA Advances will Solve Case By Em Holter and Abigail Adcox

    https://www.dailypress.com/virginiagazette/va-vg-colonial-parkway-murders-anniversary-1024-20211022-76jkpte6qvez7onybmhbhp7nfi-story.html

    New Article in Medium: The Colonial Parkway Murders — A Tale of Two Killers? By Quinn Zane

    https://medium.com/unburied/the-colonial-parkway-murders-a-tale-of-two-killers-1e8fda367a48

    Washington Post: "Crimes of Passion"

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1997/08/15/crimes-of-passion/0a38e8f9-6d04-48e4-a847-7d3cba53c363/

    New feature article in the Daily Beast: "Inside the Maddening Search for Virginia’s Colonial Parkway Serial Killer" By Justin Rohrlich

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/what-happened-to-cathleen-thomas-and-rebecca-dowski-inside-the-hunt-for-the-colonial-parkway-killer

    Citizens! Check out our new line of "Mind Over Murder" t-shirts and other good stuff !

    https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mind-over-murder-podcast?ref_id=23885

    Washington Post Op-Ed Piece by Deidre Enright of the Innocence Project:

    "The FBI should use DNA, not posters, to solve a cold-case murder"

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/06/25/julie-williams-laura-winans-unsolved-murder-test-dna/

    New Story on Oxygen: "Loni Coombs Feels A Kinship To 'Lovers' Lane' Victim Cathy Thomas"

    Loni Coombs felt an immediate connection to Cathy Thomas, a groundbreaking gay woman who broke through barriers at the U.S. Naval Academy before she was brutally murdered along the Colonial Parkway in Virginia.

    a href="https://www.oxygen.com/crime-news/loni-coombs-feels-a-kinship-to-colonial-parkway-victim-cathy-thomas"...

    • 42 min
    NEW: Alice Sebold/Anthony Broadwater Exoneration

    NEW: Alice Sebold/Anthony Broadwater Exoneration

    Join "Mind Over Murder" podcast hosts as we discuss the case of author Alice Sebold, writer of "The Lovely Bones." whose 1981 rape case was overturned. The accused, Anthony Broadwater, was exonerated after serving 16 years in prison for the sexual assault.

    NYT: He Was Convicted of Raping Alice Sebold. Then the Case Unraveled.

    Anthony Broadwater was exonerated in the 1981 rape of Ms. Sebold, now a best-selling author. When his lawyers saw the trial transcript, they could only wonder what took so long.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/15/nyregion/alice-sebold-anthony-broadwater.html

    NYT: Man Is Exonerated in Rape Case Described in Alice Sebold’s Memoir

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/23/nyregion/anthony-broadwater-alice-sebold.html?action=click&module=RelatedLinks&pgtype=Article

    NYT: Alice Sebold Apologizes to Man Wrongly Convicted of Raping Her

    Anthony Broadwater spent 16 years in prison after the author identified him as her attacker in an assault she described in her memoir, “Lucky.” Its publisher said Tuesday that it would stop distributing the book.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/30/nyregion/alice-sebold-rape-case.html?action=click&module=RelatedLinks&pgtype=Article

    New Article in Virginia Gazette: 35 Years Later, Victims’ Families in Colonial Parkway Murders Still Searching for Answers, Hope DNA Advances will Solve Case By Em Holter and Abigail Adcox

    https://www.dailypress.com/virginiagazette/va-vg-colonial-parkway-murders-anniversary-1024-20211022-76jkpte6qvez7onybmhbhp7nfi-story.html

    New Article in Medium: The Colonial Parkway Murders — A Tale of Two Killers? By Quinn Zane

    https://medium.com/unburied/the-colonial-parkway-murders-a-tale-of-two-killers-1e8fda367a48

    Washington Post: "Crimes of Passion"

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1997/08/15/crimes-of-passion/0a38e8f9-6d04-48e4-a847-7d3cba53c363/

    New feature article in the Daily Beast: "Inside the Maddening Search for Virginia’s Colonial Parkway Serial Killer" By Justin Rohrlich

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/what-happened-to-cathleen-thomas-and-rebecca-dowski-inside-the-hunt-for-the-colonial-parkway-killer

    Citizens! Check out our new line of "Mind Over Murder" t-shirts and other good stuff !

    https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mind-over-murder-podcast?ref_id=23885

    Washington Post Op-Ed Piece by Deidre Enright of the Innocence Project:

    "The FBI should use DNA, not posters, to solve a cold-case murder"

    a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/06/25/julie-williams-laura-winans-unsolved-murder-test-dna/"...

    • 42 min

Customer Reviews

4.5 out of 5
287 Ratings

287 Ratings

Jana1469 ,

New to this podcast

I’ve listened to a handful of your podcasts. Very well told stories that are clearly studied before recording. Enjoying the hosts continue on the role they each play. Not sure who to point the finger,!l or fingers but after a case as traumatic and with the carnage it left, I found the repeating advertisement for condoms insincere, cruel and irresponsible. Something that could have been avoided.

mrsBobNcgc ,

Like the podcast, dislike one host

I love Bill Thomas and would listen to most anything he released…but… I can’t take Kristin Dilley. She makes such an effort to be politically correct (vs just being polite and respectful) that it detract from their storytelling and distracts from what they are trying to communicate.

DPerg ,

One of my favs

Excellent podcast. Good content and the hosts are easy to listen to. I really like the format and layout of the podcast. Keep up the great work!!

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