Not All Business

Blakely Graham + Heather Cooper

Because at work, it's not all business. We're Heather Cooper & Blakely Graham, two rival tech CEOs turned friends, hosting real conversations about the messy reality of leadership. Think of us as Sex Ed for Leadership—discussing the topics and answering all the questions professionals are too afraid to ask, with occasional reality checks from our brilliant producer, Clay. Join us for serious insights. Slightly less serious hosts. New episodes every week!

  1. 2D AGO

    Try This One Thing To Become A Better Listener

    You think listening is about trying harder. It's not. It's about building the right habit. And Allison O'Brien is here to show you how. This week on Not All Business, we sat down with Allison O'Brien, a leading expert on LQ™ Listening Intelligence. Allison works with organizations of all sizes — from nonprofits and startups to Fortune 500 companies and government agencies — helping leaders understand why poor listening is costing them more than they realize, and what to actually do about it. Key Takeaways: Why Listening Is Physiological, Not a Willpower Problem The Four Listening Filters That Shape Every Conversation You're In Why Your Brain Processes Faster Than People Speak (and What Goes Wrong in That Gap) The Real Cost of Miscommunication — and a $15,000 Example The One Practice That Will Make You a Better Listener Starting Tonight Please consider sharing this episode & subscribing to the show for more unfiltered conversations about leadership, growth, and the messy human side of business. Follow Allison: Allison on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/allison-o-brien1/ Email: allison@lq-listeningintelligence.com Instagram: @allisono585 Submit Your Sticky Situations & Workplace Dilemmas: Got a sticky situation for Not All Business? Send a voice recording to podcast@notall.biz or drop your question in the comments. Thank You to Our Sponsors: Frances Walsh Coaching — certified Wayfinder Life Coach working with women navigating bold career moves, rebuilding after time away, or just ready for a clearer sense of direction. Start with a free intro consultation or join her upcoming 4-week Own Your Path spring workshop. Find her at franceswalshcoaching.com. Keep exploring the stories that power Not All Business. Every episode opens the door to fresh insights on what it really means to be a Female Executive or Female CEO, navigating the highs, lows, and unexpected turns of leadership. From real-world workplace dilemmas to candid conversations about breaking barriers, this podcast gives you the tools, inspiration, and perspective to thrive in your own career. So don’t stop here, dive into more episodes, learn from other women in business, and stay connected to the conversations shaping the future of work. Your next breakthrough might be just one episode away. Subscribe for more unfiltered conversations about the messy reality of leadership, professional growth strategies, and the real talk about work with new episodes every week. #Female CEOs, #Female CEO Podcast, #Female Executive, #Female Executive Podcast, #Women in Business, #Women in Business Podcast, #Women Entrepreneurs, #Business Podcast, #Real Talk about Work, #Workplace Dilemmas, #Heather Cooper, #Blakely Graham, #Sticky Situations,  #Listening #ListeningSkills #Leadership #Communication #AllisonOBrien #LQ #ListeningIntelligence

    1h 9m
  2. APR 16

    The Woman Who Built Women's Sports From NOTHING

    At 23, Amy Snider stood up in a room full of men and corrected the record on women's soccer. Nobody asked her to. She did it anyway. This week on Not All Business, we sit down with Amy Snider, Cornell soccer alum, co-founder of one of Colorado's longest-running women's semi-pro franchises, and the woman who was in the stands recently when 63,004 people showed up for the Denver Summit FC home opener — the first women's professional soccer team in Colorado. She watched it go from 20 people in a stadium to sixty-three thousand. That's not luck. That's decades of refusing to quit. We also get into the NIL debate, the transfer portal's effect on team culture, what coaches Geno Auriemma and Dawn Staley's sideline confrontation really revealed, and why the women's sports moment we're living in right now isn't a rise — it's a correction. Key Takeaways: Why Women's Sports Were Never Behind What Amy Said Out Loud in a Room Full of Men at 23 (And What Happened Next) Why the Denver Summit FC Home Opener Was 30 Years in the Making NIL and Transfer Portal Problems The Pay Gap in Women's Sports Is Still Shocking Please consider sharing this episode and subscribing to the show for more unfiltered conversations about leadership, growth, and the messy human side of business. Follow Amy: Cups Community Coffee: @cupstafthill Support Cups with a patio brick: buy.stripe.com/aFa8wP69Y18e8OK6NT6Zy00 Links & Mentions: Denver Summit FC: denversummitfc.com Togethxr (Everyone Watches Women’s Sports): togethxr.com NIL State-by-State High School Policy Map: biz.opendorse.com/blog/nil-high-school Geno Auriemma & Dawn Staley Final Four Confrontation: https://www.espn.com/womens-college-basketball/story/_/id/48390619/geno-irate-ridiculous-officiating-confronts-staley-sideline-loss Submit Your Sticky Situations & Workplace Dilemmas: Got a sticky situation for Not All Business? Send a voice recording to podcast@notall.biz or drop your question in the comments. Thank You to Our Sponsors: Frances Walsh Coaching — certified Wayfinder Life Coach working with women navigating bold career moves, rebuilding after time away, or just ready for a clearer sense of direction. Start with a free intro consultation or join her upcoming 4-week Own Your Path spring workshop. Find her at franceswalshcoaching.com. Keep exploring the stories that power Not All Business. Every episode opens the door to fresh insights on what it really means to be a Female Executive or Female CEO, navigating the highs, lows, and unexpected turns of leadership. From real-world workplace dilemmas to candid conversations about breaking barriers, this podcast gives you the tools, inspiration, and perspective to thrive in your own career. So don’t stop here, dive into more episodes, learn from other women in business, and stay connected to the conversations shaping the future of work. Your next breakthrough might be just one episode away. Subscribe for more unfiltered conversations about the messy reality of leadership, professional growth strategies, and the real talk about work with new episodes every week. #Female CEOs, #Female CEO Podcast, #Female Executive, #Female Executive Podcast, #Women in Business, #Women in Business Podcast, #Women Entrepreneurs, #Business Podcast, #Real Talk about Work, #Workplace Dilemmas, #Heather Cooper, #Blakely Graham, #Sticky Situations,  #Womens Sports, #Women In Sports, #Everyone Watches Women’s Sports, #Sports Culture, #Amy Snider, #NIL, #Transfer Portal

    1h 10m
  3. APR 9

    Sticky Situations: Bad References, Broken Accountability, and Kale

    What do you do when your manager asks you to be their reference and the nicest thing you can honestly say is... fine? This week on Not All Business, it's Casual Friday with Heather, Blakely, and Clay. No guest, no filter, and definitely no shortage of opinions. Two listener sticky situations: one is a workplace reference dilemma with no clean exit, and the other is from an educator asking a question that applies to every workplace: how do you hold people accountable when accountability doesn't actually exist at the top? Then rapid fire gets spicy. Hot takes on friending your boss, mandatory fun (Heather has strong evidence in favor), and the surprisingly divisive topic of whether to tell someone they have food in their teeth. Also: Heather has been failing her eye test at the DMV for years. Strategically. Key Takeaways: How to Give a Reference You Can Stand Behind (Without Lying) A Trick for Getting Your Manager to Write Their Own Reference Soundbites When to Be the Change vs. When to Protect Your Energy Hot Take: Should You Friend Your Boss on Social Media? Why Mandatory Fun Is Actually Just... Fun, With Waivers Please consider sharing this episode and subscribing to the show for more unfiltered conversations about leadership, growth, and the messy human side of business. Submit Your Sticky Situations & Workplace Dilemmas: Write a note: https://notall.biz Leave a voice memo: https://notall.biz/home#situations Send an email: podcast@notall.biz Thank You to Our Sponsors: The Trade Agent — AI-Powered Bidding & Invoicing for GCs and Subs https://www.thetradeagent.com/ Keep exploring the stories that power Not All Business. Every episode opens the door to fresh insights on what it really means to be a Female Executive or Female CEO, navigating the highs, lows, and unexpected turns of leadership. From real-world workplace dilemmas to candid conversations about breaking barriers, this podcast gives you the tools, inspiration, and perspective to thrive in your own career. So don’t stop here, dive into more episodes, learn from other women in business, and stay connected to the conversations shaping the future of work. Your next breakthrough might be just one episode away. Subscribe for more unfiltered conversations about the messy reality of leadership, professional growth strategies, and the real talk about work with new episodes every week. #Female CEOs, #Female CEO Podcast, #Female Executive, #Female Executive Podcast, #Women in Business, #Women in Business Podcast, #Women Entrepreneurs, #Business Podcast, #Real Talk about Work, #Workplace Dilemmas, #Heather Cooper, #Blakely Graham, #Sticky Situations,  #Accountability, #WorkplaceCulture, #Leadership, #MandatoryFun, #CasualFriday

    37 min
  4. APR 2

    The Truth About GLP-1s, From Someone Who Was There From the Start

    Everyone's talking about GLP-1s. But do they know how they actually work? This week on Not All Business, we sit down with Dr. Linda Shapiro Manning, a physician with both an MD and a PhD who has been working in obesity medicine since before GLP-1s were a household name. She was in the room when the first GLP-1 drugs were being developed and has watched them go from a clinical tool to a cultural phenomenon. Dr. Linda doesn't just explain how these drugs work. She takes on the hard questions: the body positivity backlash, the shame around weight, the rise of compounding pharmacies, and whether society is just trading one quick fix for another. Key Takeaways: How GLP-1s Actually Work (And What They're Really Doing in Your Body) Why Hollywood's Use of These Drugs Is Setting Back the Body Positivity Movement The Compounding Pharmacy Risk Do You Have to Stay on GLP-1s Forever? The Honest Answer How GLP-1s May Impact Alcohol, Addiction, and Dopamine-Driven Behaviors Please consider sharing this episode & subscribing to the show for more unfiltered conversations about leadership, growth, and the messy human side of business. Follow Dr. Linda: Dr. Linda Shapiro Manning on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/linda-shapiro-md-phd Submit Your Sticky Situations & Workplace Dilemmas: Write a note: https://notall.biz Leave a voice memo: https://notall.biz/home#situations Send an email: podcast@notall.biz Thank You to Our Sponsors: The Trade Agent — AI-Powered Bidding & Invoicing for GCs and Subs https://www.thetradeagent.com/ Keep exploring the stories that power Not All Business. Every episode opens the door to fresh insights on what it really means to be a Female Executive or Female CEO, navigating the highs, lows, and unexpected turns of leadership. From real-world workplace dilemmas to candid conversations about breaking barriers, this podcast gives you the tools, inspiration, and perspective to thrive in your own career. So don’t stop here, dive into more episodes, learn from other women in business, and stay connected to the conversations shaping the future of work. Your next breakthrough might be just one episode away. Subscribe for more unfiltered conversations about the messy reality of leadership, professional growth strategies, and the real talk about work with new episodes every week. #Female CEOs, #Female CEO Podcast, #Female Executive, #Female Executive Podcast, #Women in Business, #Women in Business Podcast, #Women Entrepreneurs, #Business Podcast, #Real Talk about Work, #Workplace Dilemmas, #Heather Cooper, #Blakely Graham, #Sticky Situations,   #GLP1 #Ozempic #Wegovy #Obesity Medicine #Body Positivity #Womens Health #Dr Linda Shapiro Manning

    1h 16m
  5. MAR 26

    AI Is Changing Hiring Faster Than You Think

    AI is reshaping hiring faster than most people realize, and if you're job searching right now, you need to know the rules of the new game. This week on Not All Business, we sit down with Jessica Titko, CEO of StaffPad, a recruiting firm on the front lines of how AI is transforming the hiring process. Jessica has seen it all: candidates using AI earpieces to get through interviews, bots submitting fake resumes, and algorithms rejecting strong candidates for not checking every box. Key Takeaways: The AI Red Flags Recruiters Are Actually Watching For How to Show AI Proficiency Without Getting Yourself Rejected Why Employers' Own AI Is Filtering Out Good Candidates The Job Search Move That Still Beats Everything Else Please consider sharing this episode & subscribing to the show for more unfiltered conversations about leadership, growth, and the messy human side of business. Follow Jessica: Jessica on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessica-titko-20b43157/  StaffPad: www.thestaffpad.com Links & Mentions: LinkedIn's New AI Interview Screening Tool: https://www.socialmediatoday.com/news/linkedin-tests-out-ai-powered-interview-screening/814636/ Submit Your Sticky Situations & Workplace Dilemmas: Write a note: https://notall.biz Leave a voice memo: https://notall.biz/home#situations Send an email: podcast@notall.biz Thank You to Our Sponsors: The Trade Agent — AI-Powered Bidding & Invoicing for GCs and Subs https://www.thetradeagent.com/ Keep exploring the stories that power Not All Business. Every episode opens the door to fresh insights on what it really means to be a Female Executive or Female CEO, navigating the highs, lows, and unexpected turns of leadership. From real-world workplace dilemmas to candid conversations about breaking barriers, this podcast gives you the tools, inspiration, and perspective to thrive in your own career. So don’t stop here, dive into more episodes, learn from other women in business, and stay connected to the conversations shaping the future of work. Your next breakthrough might be just one episode away. Subscribe for more unfiltered conversations about the messy reality of leadership, professional growth strategies, and the real talk about work with new episodes every week. #Female CEOs, #Female CEO Podcast, #Female Executive, #Female Executive Podcast, #Women in Business, #Women in Business Podcast, #Women Entrepreneurs, #Business Podcast, #Real Talk about Work, #Workplace Dilemmas, #Heather Cooper, #Blakely Graham, #Sticky Situations,   #AI, #Job Search, #Recruiting, #Career, #Career Growth #Jessica Titko

    1h 2m
  6. MAR 19

    Casual Friday: Layoffs, Dream Boards, and a CEO Who Said What?!

    Three new sticky situations. Zero corporate spin. This week on Not All Business, it's Casual Friday — which means Clay's running the show and Heather and Blakely are back in the hot seat. Sticky Situations: A senior manager at a major tech company just turned down 18 months of severance. Smart or not ready to let go? A founder is moonlighting in his first corporate cubicle while keeping a patent off his dream board. A listener tells us what it felt like to have the CEO of her first job tell her that her religion was terrible — two weeks in. Plus: rapid fire. Have you ever? Yes or no. We're not holding back. Please consider sharing this episode & subscribing to the show for more unfiltered conversations about leadership, growth, and the messy human side of business. Links & Mentions: Episode 23 with Baily Hancock (networking): https://youtu.be/tg93JO2UfXs?si=n_VZ8hAxBSwH-P4J  Episode with Sam Yarborough (networking): https://youtu.be/nyWpMGYTd8k?si=nyyGBEI2ozhUI8FC  Episode with Michele Lando (resume writing & branding): https://youtu.be/1HEpid3e66c?si=C0R4YI2A_7WZoiLB  Submit Your Sticky Situations & Workplace Dilemmas: Write a note: https://notall.biz Leave a voice memo: https://notall.biz/home#situations Send an email: podcast@notall.biz Thank You to Our Sponsors: The Trade Agent — AI-Powered Bidding & Invoicing for GCs and Subs https://www.thetradeagent.com/ Keep exploring the stories that power Not All Business. Every episode opens the door to fresh insights on what it really means to be a Female Executive or Female CEO, navigating the highs, lows, and unexpected turns of leadership. From real-world workplace dilemmas to candid conversations about breaking barriers, this podcast gives you the tools, inspiration, and perspective to thrive in your own career. So don’t stop here, dive into more episodes, learn from other women in business, and stay connected to the conversations shaping the future of work. Your next breakthrough might be just one episode away. Subscribe for more unfiltered conversations about the messy reality of leadership, professional growth strategies, and the real talk about work with new episodes every week. #Female CEOs, #Female CEO Podcast, #Female Executive, #Female Executive Podcast, #Women in Business, #Real Talk about Work, #Workplace Dilemmas, #Heather Cooper, #Blakely Graham, #Sticky Situations, #layoffs #techcareers #careerstrategy #moonlighting #womeninbusiness #workplacediscrimination #casualfriday #notallbusiness

    55 min
  7. MAR 12

    Stop Pitch Slapping and Start Connecting

    What if the most powerful revenue strategy isn't your CRM, your cold outreach, or your pipeline velocity — it's the relationships you already have, but keep treating like transactions? This week we sit down with Sam Yarborough, former Chief Growth Officer, GTM and partnerships leader in the Salesforce ecosystem, co-founder of Arcadia, and co-host of Friends with Benefits.  Also: Blakely's family hit 14 knee surgeries. The dogs are home from training. And we have a new word for the vocabulary. You're welcome. Key Takeaways: Why "pitch slapping" is killing your relationships The case for keeping your community small on purpose How to follow up when there's nothing on the table Why 10,000 LinkedIn connections don't equal 10,000 relationships The how and what questions that make any conversation better Please consider sharing this episode & subscribing to the show for more unfiltered conversations about leadership, growth, and the messy human side of business. Follow Sam: Sam on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/samyarborough/ Arcadia Leadership Experience: https://www.arcadialeadershipexperience.com/ Arcadia Online Community: https://www.bearcadia.com/ Friends with Benefits Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/6Ez9GY0l2Ksfedhb2s0px0 Links & Mentions: PartnerStack — Title sponsor of Arcadia: https://www.partnerstack.com/ Bozeman Nights — Monthly speaker series: https://www.bozemannights.com/ Made in Good Company — Sam's craft + connection event: https://www.madeingoodcompany.com/ LMNT Electrolytes: https://drinklmnt.com/ Episode 16 with Nicole Christensen (referenced in #PIP4PUP and Protect Your People): https://youtu.be/mu9g-CewQSE?si=a93hWdxsHd__h_yc Detroit Pistons scoreboard buzzer stuck for 12+ minutes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36qxxNaj88A Same game — the manual air horn solution: https://youtube.com/shorts/4ifrCc1KLvk?si=CgKJSHZLWu9Ei6qw  Submit Your Sticky Situations & Workplace Dilemmas: Write a note: https://notall.biz Leave a voice memo: https://notall.biz/home#situations Send an email: podcast@notall.biz Thank You to Our Sponsors: The Trade Agent — AI-Powered Bidding & Invoicing for GCs and Subs https://www.thetradeagent.com/ Keep exploring the stories that power Not All Business. Every episode opens the door to fresh insights on what it really means to be a Female Executive or Female CEO, navigating the highs, lows, and unexpected turns of leadership. From real-world workplace dilemmas to candid conversations about breaking barriers, this podcast gives you the tools, inspiration, and perspective to thrive in your own career. So don’t stop here, dive into more episodes, learn from other women in business, and stay connected to the conversations shaping the future of work. Your next breakthrough might be just one episode away. Subscribe for more unfiltered conversations about the messy reality of leadership, professional growth strategies, and the real talk about work with new episodes every week. #Female CEOs, #Female CEO Podcast, #Female Executive, #Female Executive Podcast, #Women in Business, #Real Talk about Work, #Workplace Dilemmas, #Heather Cooper, #Blakely Graham, #Sticky Situations, #Relationships, #GTM, #Networking, #Sales, #Sam Yarborough

    1h 6m
  8. MAR 5

    Your Nervous System Is Talking. Are You Listening?

    Are you waking up at 3am and can't explain why? You're not alone — and it's not random. This week on Not All Business, we welcome Kristie Steinbock, traditional Chinese medicine practitioner and acupuncturist with 35 years in practice. Since early 2026, Kristie has seen an unprecedented surge of clients arriving with the same complaint: anxiety and insomnia. Her take? It's collective fear — and our nervous systems are paying the price. Kristie walks us through her three-step framework — Pause, Feel, Decide — for breaking the reactive cycle whether it's 3am or the middle of a meeting that's gone sideways. She also weighs in on screens, sleep aids, hormones, mushrooms, and why your body's messages are louder at night when the veil gets a little thinner. Plus: my van life debut (91 sleep score, naked RV park I fled), an update on #PIP4PUP, and a surprisingly deep dive into noetic science courtesy of Dan Brown. Key Takeaways: Why anxiety and insomnia are spiking — and what's actually driving it The Pause, Feel, Decide framework for nervous system reset What waking up at 3am really means (and how to stop panicking about it) Screen time, sleep aids, mushrooms, and the two-hour rule How busyness culture is making us sick — and what leaders can do about it Please consider sharing this episode & subscribing to the show for more unfiltered conversations about leadership, growth, and the messy human side of business. Follow Kristie: Kristie on Substack: Red Dragon Writes - https://reddragon.substack.com/ Kristie's Podcast (Coming Soon): Red Dragon Speaks Links & Mentions: Why We Sleep by Matthew Walker: https://www.amazon.com/Why-We-Sleep-Unlocking-Dreams/dp/1501144324 Crafted Leadership — Nancy Kepner's leadership training company: https://craftedleadership.com/about/meet-nancy-kepner/ #PIP4PUP: Follow Heather's fitness journey on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/heathercooper.nab/ Polymarket — prediction markets platform: https://polymarket.com Submit Your Sticky Situations & Workplace Dilemmas: Write a note: https://notall.biz Leave a voice memo: https://notall.biz/home#situations Send an email: podcast@notall.biz Thank You to Our Sponsors: The Trade Agent — AI-Powered Bidding & Invoicing for GCs and Subs https://www.thetradeagent.com/ Keep exploring the stories that power Not All Business. Every episode opens the door to fresh insights on what it really means to be a Female Executive or Female CEO, navigating the highs, lows, and unexpected turns of leadership. From real-world workplace dilemmas to candid conversations about breaking barriers, this podcast gives you the tools, inspiration, and perspective to thrive in your own career. So don’t stop here, dive into more episodes, learn from other women in business, and stay connected to the conversations shaping the future of work. Your next breakthrough might be just one episode away. Subscribe for more unfiltered conversations about the messy reality of leadership, professional growth strategies, and the real talk about work with new episodes every week. #Female CEOs, #Female CEO Podcast, #Female Executive, #Female Executive Podcast, #Women in Business, #Real Talk about Work, #Workplace Dilemmas, #Heather Cooper, #Blakely Graham, #Sticky Situations, #Anxiety, #Sleep, #TCM, #Kristie Steinbock

    1h 4m

Ratings & Reviews

4.7
out of 5
14 Ratings

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Because at work, it's not all business. We're Heather Cooper & Blakely Graham, two rival tech CEOs turned friends, hosting real conversations about the messy reality of leadership. Think of us as Sex Ed for Leadership—discussing the topics and answering all the questions professionals are too afraid to ask, with occasional reality checks from our brilliant producer, Clay. Join us for serious insights. Slightly less serious hosts. New episodes every week!

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