On The Pass

Gabriel Ornelas

On The Pass serves up inspiring conversations with dynamic figures in the food + beverage, hospitality and travel space. Hosted by Gabriel Ornelas.

  1. 12/10/2025

    Hot Spot: Travis Swikard of Callie + Fleurette

    Chef Travis Swikard has become one of the most influential voices shaping the future of West Coast dining. After years cooking at the highest levels in New York, Travis returned home to San Diego to create Callie, a restaurant that has redefined Southern California cuisine and captured national attention. Now, he's preparing to open Fleurette, his most intimate and personal restaurant yet — a project rooted in craft, memory, and a deep sense of place.   In this conversation, Travis opens up about the moments that shaped him: the early lessons that forged his discipline, the risk of walking away from a dream job, the grief and setbacks that humbled him, and the clarity that came from rebuilding with purpose. We explore how he leads, how he cultivates culture inside the kitchen, how he thinks about flavor and storytelling, and why he believes San Diego is entering its most exciting culinary chapter yet.   In this episode, we discuss: • The rise of Callie and Travis' return to San Diego • Why Fleurette represents a new creative frontier • Leadership, culture-building, and empowering young cooks • Turning loss into fuel and rebuilding with intention • What defines San Diego's food identity — and where it's going • The responsibility chefs carry in shaping community   Whether you're a chef, entrepreneur, hospitality leader, or someone who simply loves food and meaningful storytelling, this episode offers a rare look into the heart and mind of a chef leading with vision.   📍 Listen to more episodes of On The Pass on Apple, Spotify, Amazon Music, and YouTube. 📺 Watch this full conversation on YouTube — including bonus moments and behind-the-scenes context. 🔔 Subscribe for weekly conversations with the chefs, thinkers, entrepreneurs, and culture-builders shaping hospitality today. An On The Pass Studios Production   Learn more about Travis Swikard + Callie San Diego:  https://bit.ly/48JdQ1Y     Follow Travis Swikard on Instagram: https://bit.ly/44QDyR7     Follow On The Pass on Instagram: http://bit.ly/3Kvgm1n     Subscribe to On The Pass on YouTube and Watch "A New Course": https://bit.ly/4hajZq8     Follow our Host, Gabriel Ornelas: http://bit.ly/3YS964b     Learn more about On The Pass: https://bit.ly/44rEOsR     Lets work together! Get in contact: https://www.onthepass.com

    1h 21m
  2. 11/26/2025

    Or Amsalam: 10 Years of Bread & Belonging

    What does it take to build a bakery that becomes the soul of a neighborhood? In this episode of On The Pass, host Gabriel Ornelas sits down with Or Amsalam, chef and co-founder of Lodge Bread Co., one of Los Angeles' most influential and beloved artisan bakeries. For nearly a decade, Lodge Bread Co. has been more than a place for great bread — it has become a cultural pillar, a symbol of craft, care, and community. Or shares how his Israeli–Moroccan heritage shaped his palate, how failure became a teacher, and how the bakery's recent Culver City expansion is a way of giving back to the neighborhood that believed in them from day one. Together, they dive into: • The discipline and philosophy behind naturally leavened sourdough • How heritage, memory, and flavor inform Or's cooking • The power of community-driven hospitality • What creativity looks like after 10 years of growth • Why every neighborhood needs a bakery and a baker • The dish Or wishes he had created • What the next decade of Lodge Bread Co. might hold This is a thoughtful, warm, fun conversation with a chef who understands that bread isn't just food — it's connection. Watch the full video episode on YouTube and subscribe to On The Pass for more conversations with chefs, winemakers, and creative leaders shaping food and culture.   Learn more about Lodge Bread Co.:  https://www.lodgebread.com     Follow Lodge Bread Co. on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lodgebreadco/     Follow On The Pass on Instagram: http://bit.ly/3Kvgm1n     Subscribe to On The Pass on YouTube and Watch "A New Course": https://bit.ly/4hajZq8     Follow our Host, Gabriel Ornelas: http://bit.ly/3YS964b     Learn more about On The Pass: https://bit.ly/44rEOsR     Lets work together! Get in contact: https://www.onthepass.com

    1h 10m
  3. 11/12/2025

    Eduard Xatruch: Inside the World's #1 Restaurant

    In this special in-depth conversation, Gabriel Ornelas sits down with Chef Eduard Xatruch, one of the three creative forces behind Disfrutar — the #1 restaurant in the world (World's 50 Best 2024) and a three-Michelin-stardestination redefining modern gastronomy.   From the legacy of El Bulli to the philosophy of "creative cooking," Eduard reflects on his lifelong pursuit of innovation, collaboration, and meaning. He opens up about the power of partnership with fellow chefs Oriol Castro and Mateu Casañas, the discipline required to harness creativity ("creativity is a beast, and you must control it"), and the relentless curiosity that drives Disfrutar to keep reimagining what's possible in fine dining.   Recorded live in Miami during the Estrella Damm Gastronomy Congress, this conversation offers a rare glimpse into the mind of one of the world's most visionary chefs — an exploration of passion, precision, and purpose that defines the next era of culinary creativity.   🍽️ Watch the full episode on YouTube or listen on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Learn more about Disfrutar:  https://bit.ly/4hTmVtu     Follow Disfrutar on Instagram: https://bit.ly/49HLSG3     Follow On The Pass on Instagram: http://bit.ly/3Kvgm1n     Subscribe to On The Pass on YouTube and Watch "A New Course": https://bit.ly/4hajZq8     Follow our Host, Gabriel Ornelas: http://bit.ly/3YS964b     Learn more about On The Pass: https://bit.ly/44rEOsR     Lets work together! Get in contact: https://www.onthepass.com

    58 min
  4. 09/17/2025

    Curtis Stone: Leading With Vision

    In this episode of On The Pass, Gabriel Ornelas sits down with world-renowned chef, restaurateur, and creative force Curtis Stone — a figure who has spent nearly two decades evolving from fine dining in Beverly Hills, to live fire at Gwen, to his latest chapter with Woodend at Maroma, A Belmond Hotel in Mexico.   Curtis has worn many hats: Michelin-starred chef, butcher, farmer, TV personality, cookbook author, Emmy-nominated producer, and entrepreneur. But beneath the accolades lies a deeper story — one about vision, leadership, reinvention, and the pursuit of meaning in both work and life.   In this conversation, Curtis opens up about: How he gets others to believe in and buy into his vision across restaurants, media, products, and farms Why vulnerability is just as essential to leadership as grit and discipline His perspective on the future of culinary storytelling — from network TV to TikTok to long-form depth What Mexico has taught him about humility, culture, and honoring place through food How he decides where to focus his energy, what he's ready to leave behind, and what success means now as a leader, father, and builder of community   This is Curtis Stone like you've never heard him before, not just as a celebrity chef, but as a creative visionary building an ecosystem that stretches far beyond the kitchen.   Learn more about Woodend by Curtis Stone:  https://bit.ly/4naygHt     Follow Curtis Stone on Instagram: https://bit.ly/48iTUV8     Follow On The Pass on Instagram: http://bit.ly/3Kvgm1n     Subscribe to On The Pass on YouTube: https://bit.ly/4hajZq8     Watch On The Pass Original: RARE, A Chef's Story: https://bit.ly/3NKDU2N     Follow our Host, Gabriel Ornelas: http://bit.ly/3YS964b     Learn more about On The Pass: https://bit.ly/44rEOsR     Lets work together! Get in contact: https://www.onthepass.com

    53 min
  5. 08/27/2025

    Hot Spot: Bolun & Linette Yao of NYC's YINGTAO

    What does it mean to "dare to imagine new possibilities for Chinese cuisine"? For Bolun and Linette Yao, the husband-and-wife duo behind Yingtao in Hell's Kitchen, it means rewriting the story of what Chinese fine dining can be and doing it on their own terms.   In this episode, Gabriel Ornelas sits down with the Yaos to talk about the vision, the challenges, and the triumphs of building New York City's only contemporary Chinese Michelin-starred restaurant. Named after Bolun's grandmother, Yingtao is as much about family and memory as it is about innovation and modernity.   Highlights include: • The grandmother who inspired Yingtao and continues to shape its spirit • Why the Yaos see Yingtao as more than a restaurant, but a brand and a movement • How their backgrounds across China, New Zealand, Singapore, California, and New York influence their approach to food and hospitality • What it takes to build a Michelin-starred restaurant as a young couple in New York City • Why they believe Chinese cuisine is entering a new era, alongside global innovators like Chef Andrew Wong in London   This is a conversation about legacy, ambition, and cultural storytelling. It is about honoring tradition while reimagining what is possible.   🎧 Listen, follow, and subscribe to On The Pass on Apple Podcasts and Spotify, or watch the full episode on YouTube.   Learn more about YINGTAO:  https://bit.ly/3UNnsT6     Follow Bolun Yao on Instagram: https://bit.ly/41riuiy     Follow On The Pass on Instagram: http://bit.ly/3Kvgm1n     Subscribe to On The Pass on YouTube: https://bit.ly/4hajZq8     Watch On The Pass Original: RARE, A Chef's Story: https://bit.ly/3NKDU2N     Follow our Host, Gabriel Ornelas: http://bit.ly/3YS964b     Learn more about On The Pass: https://bit.ly/44rEOsR     Lets work together! Get in contact: https://www.onthepass.com

    58 min
4.9
out of 5
146 Ratings

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On The Pass serves up inspiring conversations with dynamic figures in the food + beverage, hospitality and travel space. Hosted by Gabriel Ornelas.

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