Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary is a podcast that calls out all sorts of stupid BS in healthcare through raw conversations about advocacy, heroism, and the audacity of health. It is the voice of patient advocacy.
Dr. Guy Maytal: "Being Ill" vs "Having an Illness"
Today on the show, a peek into the fascinating world of psychiatric oncology with my friend Dr. Guy Maytal, Chief of Integrated Care and Assistant Professor of Medicine at Weill Cornell Graduate School of Medical Sciences. I’ve often heard the phrase “ambassadors of dignity” when referring to the empathic mental health professionals who not only listen to the lyrics but hear the symphony of grief, struggle, and challenge that patients bring. Guy is one of those heroes, and it was a privilege to dive deep into conversations around how the word “rehabilitation” is making a comeback, the sheer necessity of mental health care to lift people up, make some sense of the madness, add a handrail to the staircase, and restore some of the missing parts when we are broken. We also talk about the fabulously insane world of medical reimbursements. Unlike “normal” procedures where you are poked, prodded, radiated and/or stitched backup, mental health is the outlier tossed about as a “nice to have.” Enjoy the show.
Lenox Hill, Part Two
Welcome to Part Two my conversation with Dr. David Langer, Chairman of the Department of Neurosurgery at Lenox Hill Hospital, Co-Founder of Playback Health, and star of the critically acclaimed Netflix series, Lenox Hill. If you’ve listened to Part One — and I hope you did because it’d be weird if you hadn’t — there is such richness into David’s humanity and approach to medicine beyond the biology of the patient, their caregivers, and loved ones. We really dig into what David’s been working in the digital health/tech sector during this segment, specifically his startup, Playback Health, which is literally putting the humanity back into the doctor/patient relationship. I’ve seen a ton of “innovation” in my time, but this is real, and it’s amazing. You can check that out at PlaybackHealth.com. Plus, a much deeper dive into his newfound notoriety and adoration by starring in the Netflix Series, Lenox Hill. David doesn’t think of himself as a celebrity, but to the thousands of lives he’s changed for the better, perhaps he’s more of a superhero. With that, enjoy PART TWO — the exciting conclusion — of my two-part episode with the one and only Dr. David Langer.
Lenox Hill, Part One
Some of you may have heard about the acclaimed Netflix series, Lenox Hill. If you haven’t, you’ve to to check it out. Four doctors at New York's storied Lenox Hill Hospital balance their personal lives and their dedication to their patients in this documentary series. And one of those doctors joins me today. Dr. David Langer, Chairman of the Department of Neurosurgery at Lenox Hill Hospital and Co-Founder of Playback Health is one of those doctors — and he joins me here in-studio — and I am totally fanboying for all the reasons. Touching people’s brains to help save their lives is indeed an interesting badge of honor to wear, and a a burden to bare. And as someone who has had their brain touched by a neurosurgeon, I have the most profound respect imaginable for the practice. Beyond his superstardom with the Netflix special, David is one of the most genuine and empathic human beings around who also happen to be one of the most recognized leaders in his craft. Our conversation was more than just idle chatter. There is a deep-rooted missing element to showcasing humanity in medicine, and an ebb tide reveal of the lack of empathy that unfortunately pervades the practice of medicine. And did I mention that David was a first responder to the COVID pandemic in NYC when the shit really hit the fan? With that, enjoy PART ONE of my two-part episode with the one and only Dr. David Langer.
[BONUS] Lifehacking COVID-19: Back-to-School Insanity Edition
Today, a frenetic BONUS episode with my dear friend of 30+ years, the always eclectic, impossibly talented Half-Greek/Half-Italian spitfire no BS unicorn that is Elura Nanos. As two exasperated Gen-X parents of young kids, we needed a COVID-19 venting session to outgas our egregious misgivings with the endless ignominious malfeasance on the part of the school systems to figure out what the hell is actually happening. Prepare to nod your head, fellow parents with school-age children, for what you are about to hear is as unfiltered and unscripted as it gets. Just wait for the part where we talk about Zoom Band and Zoom Gym and how if Unicycles were banned in Minnesota, people would find a way to sneak them in from Wisconsin anyway.Plus, there's a healthy serving of mask mandates, cultural biases, tribalism, and "What's the use of science anyway?" Oh - And a nod to the fact that most Americans lack even the most basic understanding of what "freedom" actually means? AND that the government is allowed to infringe on your liberty all it wants. Enjoy the show.
They're Real and They're Spectacular: Board-Certified Patient Advocates
Get ready to learn a lot on today’s show. For example, did you know there are Board Certified Patient Advocates? You heard that. And it’s not what you think. It’s better. Joining me to discuss this — and OH SO MUCH MORE — is Dr. Grace Cordovano, the CEO of Enlightening Results and the Co-Founder of Unblock Health. I’m at my best when I feel like the dumbest guy in the room by learning things I had no idea about. This is that conversation, and I hope you take away what I did because it is so revelatory and unsung. What Grace and I share most in common is our hill to die on: guaranteeing that every patient has the access, navigation and dignity they deserve to be in charge of their own outcomes. We also pick a mutual fight against anyone who uses the phrase “Health Innovation” because it’s usually all loads of shit to justify someone’s business card. Enjoy the show.
Kara McGuirk-Allison: A Not-So-Hidden Brain
Today on the show, what happens when a legacy, award-winning NPR radio producer/young adult cancer survivor is interviewed by a gracefully aging, semi-legacy, non-award-winning, non-NPR producer/young adult cancer survivor? Does a media event horizon manifest in the clouds along with the token interdimensional SKY BEAM from comic book movies? Kara McGuirk-Allison is an award-winning public radio and podcast producer with 25 years of experience in storytelling, production, and journalism. Among a ton of other insanely incredible things she’s done in her career to date, she produced and launched the critically acclaimed show Hidden Brain for NPR. Listen in as we swap war stories and compare notes about the nostalgic virtues of audio, how the golden age of fireside chats now resides on-demand in our pockets. We also opine on how, while there are currently WAY TOO MANY PODCASTS for anyone comfort that are potentially diluting the medium, the concepts of “niche media” and “appointment listening” (as she puts it) are redefining where consumers seek personalized verbal conversation. Also, a dip into the waters of “survivor guilt, being your own advocate (if, when, and where that is possible) AND a dire message to the public —ONLY YOU CAN PREVENT PODCAST FIRES.
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Relatable... Smart... An interesting and powerfully patient-centric take on the healthcare labyrinth. Matthew is the advocate the health care space needs right now. You need to check this podcast out.
Honest and open...as always
Matthew Zachary can always be counted on to be an honest and open voice in support of patients. A sorely needed voice that lets people know they don’t have to endure living with illness alone. That there are people who understand and can give voice to their fears, frustrations, and hopes. This podcast series delivers on that in every way.
Real convos about stuff that matters
MZ nails it again. Real conversations that cut through the political BS normally associated with health topics.