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Meet product and technology leaders who are shaping what comes next in a world driven by AI, rapid innovation, and global complexity. Every week, we explore the ways bold women and men are navigating change, leading with impact, and redefining the future of product leadership.

  1. 6D AGO

    AI Safety in Practice with OpenAI's Tonia Osadebe

    In this episode of Women in Product, host Shannon Peavey sits down with Tonia Osadebe, AI Safety Lead at OpenAI, for a candid and practical conversation about what it really means to build responsibly in fast moving AI environments. Tonia shares her path into AI Safety, from her early work on AI Agents and machine learning fairness to stepping into a role focused squarely on evaluating and mitigating risk in frontier systems. She reflects on her time at Google, including being part of the team navigating the widely discussed “Glue on Pizza” AI search result moment, and what those high visibility incidents teach teams about iteration, accountability, and resilience. At the heart of this conversation is a simple but powerful idea: safety work is collaborative. Tonia explains how cross functional teams come together to define acceptable risk, make principled tradeoffs, and agree to improve systems over time rather than striving for perfection before launch. 02:29 Where does safety start in a project? 03:50 We’re mitigating - not eliminating - risk 08:14 Trying not to break everything 09:26 Let’s talk about glue on pizza 11:34 What we don’t know YET 14:06 How teams collaborate 19:02 We are not the “fun police” 21:35 Tension is expected 22:15 Measure where you can 24:05 Sharing ownership 25:15 Reflecting the real world 29:00 Access will change the way we dream 32:50 Building safety into roadmap 📚Resources: OpenAI - https://openai.com/ Google AI Safety Principles - https://ai.google/safety/ Google’s Pizza-Glue Scandal https://www.wired.com/story/google-cut-back-ai-overviews-before-pizza-glue/ The U.S. Government’s AI Literacy Framework https://www.dol.gov/newsroom/releases/eta/eta20260213 🌟 Where to find Tonia: On LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tonia-osadebe-a9b1a014/ Where to find our host: Shannon Peavey - https://www.linkedin.com/in/spmad/ 🙋🏻‍♀️Where to find Women in Product: On LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/women-in-product/posts/  Website - https://womenpm.org/ Join the Community - https://womenpm.org/wip-community/

    38 min

  2. MAR 31

    AI Ethics in Action with Alaska Airlines’ Shelby Tallent

    What does it mean to be the person responsible for AI ethics inside a 30,000-person company? Shelby Tallent lives this every day. As the leader of AI ethics, responsibility, and compliance for Alaska Airlines, Shelby works at the intersection of technology, governance, and human trust. Her career across Amazon, Nordstrom, and TeleSign has shaped a perspective that blends policy rigor with product execution. In conversation with host Shannon Peavey, Shelby shares why AI ethics is not about slowing innovation but about guiding it. She explains how ethical value systems become practical decision frameworks, how individuals can hold their ground when goals conflict, and why keeping humans in the loop is not optional. AI should not be looked at as a way to “get us out of things,” she said, rather, we should let it expand our capacity to do what once felt impossible. 00:00 Introduction  01:49 How Alaska Airlines structures the AI Safety & Compliance role 02:18 The ways responsibilities map to company values 04:45 Where foundational principles for AI implementation originate 05:50 Navigating different AI rules per country 07:32 The “9-to-5” of AI Responsibility 13:02 Types of risk and how we mitigate 16:30 A path of many hats23:00 Keeping humans in the loop 29:30 Why we should be optimistic 33:00 Shelby’s challenge to your thinking and approach 📚Resources: Alaska Airlines - https://www.alaskaair.com/ International Association of Privacy Professionals https://iapp.org/ Cloud Security Alliance https://cloudsecurityalliance.org/ The EU AI Act - https://artificialintelligenceact.eu/ GDPR - https://gdpr-info.eu/ AI.gov - https://www.ai.gov/ Microsoft CoPilot https://copilot.microsoft.com/  FigJam https://www.figma.com/figjam/ 🌟 Where to find Shelby: On LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/shetallent/ Where to find our host: Shannon Peavey - https://www.linkedin.com/in/spmad/ 🙋🏻‍♀️Where to find Women in Product: On LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/women-in-product/posts/  Website https://womenpm.org/ Join the Community https://womenpm.org/wip-community/

    34 min

  3. MAR 24

    The Future Has Arrived: AI Safety, Ethics & Responsibility

    If there is one thing we can agree on, AI is everywhere. It promises incredible gains in productivity, creativity, deep analysis, and progress in all kinds of fields from medicine to music. But - AI also brings anxiety, concern, and a great deal of unknowns.  We wanted to find out exactly who is thinking about the future of AI in terms of morality, ethics, psychological and physical safety? (Is anyone working on this? Hello?) We are happy to report that indeed, they are. And we want you to meet them.  In an exclusive new Product Rising podcast series, host Shannon Peavey explores the world of AI Ethics, Safety & Responsibility through conversations with experts working in AI policy, compliance, accountability, research and safety. She gets into the details to illuminate the ways these men and women are working hard to help shape a future we all want to live in.  Whether you’re an individual contributor, leader, founder, or advisor, listen in to learn about this incredibly important field that touches all aspects of tech and quite possibly, will have a profound impact on all of our lives from here. 00:20 What this series illuminates 01:07 The AI truth is, we don’t know it all 02:34 It’s time to come to terms with AI 03:40 Good people out there working on hairy problems 05:07 Time to work on minimizing harm 06:18 Our guests: consumer, LLMs, tech, policy 08:45 Risk mitigation takes all kinds of backgrounds 09:57 Causes for optimism 11:54 The legacy of Google’s AI principles 14:20 First guest Shelby Tallent (Alaska Airlines) 16:04 Our series starts March 24 and continues for 8 weeks: join us! 📚Resources: Women in Product - http://womenpm.org Product Rising on Apple Podcasts https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/product-rising/id1584224561 Product Rising on Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/7bcyVhpdhw0hbiRr6O4h1U Product Rising on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLijcNLDj_QE2ge6Wqeh0MLx_qMKwot--9 The U.S. government’s AI Literacy Framework https://www.dol.gov/newsroom/releases/eta/eta20260213 Thank you so much to our guests: Shelby Tallent, Alaska Airlines https://www.linkedin.com/in/shetallent/ Jen Gennai, T3 https://www.linkedin.com/in/jen-gennai-b333933/ Tonia Osadebe, OpenAI https://www.linkedin.com/in/tonia-osadebe-a9b1a014/ Rebecca Hinds, PhD https://www.linkedin.com/in/rebecca-hinds/ Angel Evan, AG Consulting https://www.linkedin.com/in/angel-evan/ Tracy Pizzo Frey, Restorative AI https://www.linkedin.com/in/tracy-frey/ Sara Tangdall, Nike https://www.linkedin.com/in/sara-tangdall/ Where to find our hosts: Shannon Peavey https://www.linkedin.com/in/spmad/ Elizabeth Ames https://www.linkedin.com/in/elizabethames/ 🙋🏻‍♀️Where to find Women in Product: On LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/women-in-product/posts/  Website https://womenpm.org/ Join the Community https://womenpm.org/wip-community/

    16 min
  4. Sustainable Ambition And The Power Of Storytelling With Julie Wenah

    MAR 10

    Sustainable Ambition And The Power Of Storytelling With Julie Wenah

    Julie Wenah joins Carmen Palmer for the second episode in our monthly series, In The Lead. Julie is an incredible storyteller. She shares her experience on building Civil Rights into products from the beginning and why that is critical in the era of AI. She also shares her experience of creating sustainable ambition and redefining success.  In The Lead is a monthly series on Product Rising sharing thought provoking conversations with a wide range of industry leaders hosted by Carmen Palmer, CEO of Women In Product.  00:41 Meet Julie Wenah 01:51 Owning Every Identity 04:50 Redefining Success 08:43 Sustainable Ambition 10:22 When Products Miss 13:27 Carrying The Weight 15:50 Who Thrives In Tension 20:15 Embedding Civil Rights 22:56 AI Fairness Window 24:51 Access And Accountability 28:31 Access And Human Stories 29:37 Releasing Productivity Metrics 33:58 Boundaries And Time Blocking 36:21 Patience Brick By Brick 38:06 Why Storytelling Grounds Us 41:40 Justice At Scale Dilemma 43:38 Ask And Listen Within 47:44 Morning Pages And Resources 📚Resources: The Artist’s Way - Book by Julie Cameron  Digital Civil Rights Coalition - https://www.digitalcivilrights.com, @digitalcivilrights on Instagram,  ✨Where to find Julie: On LinkedIn 💫 Where to find Carmen: On LinkedIn  🙋🏻‍♀️Where to find Women in Product: On LinkedIn  Website https://womenpm.org/ Join the Community https://womenpm.org/wip-community/

    51 min

  5. MAR 3

    Great Advice from Tami Reiss

    In this episode of Product Rising, we look back at Cassie Campbell’s interview with Tami Reiss, an experienced product leader, speaker, author, trainer, and coach. Elizabeth Ames walks us through a number of clips from the interview that highlight the value of coaching, from early management and leadership roles through the highest levels of leadership. Tami shares what changes as leaders advance, where their time and attention must change. She also has some great advice on building and deploying influence and empathy skills to achieve business objectives, and key skills in communication and using the language of business that are required as you advance. She closes with some great advice on networking and it’s value in finding great opportunities. The original episode was published on May 27, 2025. You can listen to the full episode from that date as well. 00:00 Welcome and Series Setup 01:48 Why Coaching Matters 03:11 Transitioning to Executive 04:35 Strategy vs Execution Pendulum 06:53 Influence and Empathy Skills 10:01 Speaking Investor Language 12:25 Networking for New Roles 13:34 Wrap Up and Where to Listen ✨Where to find Tami Reiss: On LinkedIn Tami’s Website - My Leader Within (with booking link) 💫 Where to find Cassie: On LinkedIn  At Cassie Camp - Learn more about product leadership coaching and fractional product leadership 🙋🏻‍♀️Where to find Women in Product: On LinkedIn  Website https://womenpm.org/ Join the Community https://womenpm.org/wip-community/

    15 min

  6. FEB 24

    Sally Thornton on Today’s Job Market

    There is a lot of debate about the state of the job market today. We definitely hear a lot about layoffs in the big tech companies and also about AI eliminating positions. But AI may be having a bigger impact in the requirements for specific roles and even perhaps new types of roles. We will be having periodic conversations with leading recruiters, hiring managers, and others about the evolving job market and what it takes to get hired/noticed.  Our first conversation is with Sally Thornton, CEO & Founder of Forshay, a firm that combines Executive recruiting with interim experts across Finance, HR, and Operations, and by aligning culture and leadership development skills to optimize team performance. 02:17 Forshay Firm Overview 03:27 Job Market Reality Check 06:09 Entry Level Pipeline Crunch 07:44 Where Hiring Is Growing 08:33 What Employers Want Now 09:56 Proving Curiosity in Interviews 11:34 Influence as a Core Skill 12:38 AI Transparency and Flatter Teams 14:47 Fractional Leadership Explained 19:36 How Orgs Are Reshaping for AI 22:43 The Rise of the AI Scout 24:55 Building an AI Experiment Team 25:43 Choosing Tools That Fit 27:16 AI in Hiring and Resume Filters 29:19 Beating the Rejection Machine 31:36 Community as Career Support 32:14 AI as Reflective Hiring Partner 34:37 Gut Instinct Versus Data 37:40 Future Proofing Through Community 39:56 Give More and Experiment Often 41:16 Tools That Reduce Overwork 43:42 Wrap Up and Where to Follow 📚Resources: To Sell is Human, Daniel Pink 🌟 Where to find Sally: On LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/sallythornton/ Forshay: https://forshay.com 🙋🏻‍♀️Where to find Women in Product: On LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/women-in-product/posts/  Website https://womenpm.org/ Join the Community https://womenpm.org/wip-community/

    45 min

  7. FEB 17

    Building Community & Becoming a Super Connector

    Building Community & Becoming a Super Connector In this episode Ha Nguyen, Founder and Managing Partner of NextStep Advisory & Consulting, shares the work and life experiences that have led her to being an exceptional community builder and super connector. She joins host, Surbhi Gupta, to share the value of being a go-giver, and how visibility and being able to speak up has powered her career and can do the same for yours.  🎧 Episode Highlights: 01:47 Ha’s Product Origin Story: eBay in 2000 to Product Leadership 03:00 From Introvert to Speaking Up: HBS & Finding Your Voice 05:20 Becoming a Super Connector: Community Building & VC Brand 08:49 Visibility Isn’t Automatic: Ask for What You Want (Promotion Stories) 14:05 When Leadership Isn’t Moving Fast Enough: Timing, Titles & Leaving 17:12 Create Your Own Luck: Habits, Confidence, and Taking Risks 20:58 Build a Personal Board of Directors (and Nurture Relationships) 25:19 Finding Sponsors in Big Companies: Skip-Level Relationships & Persistence 27:19 Make Better Asks: Follow-Ups, Value, and Time-Bound Requests 28:29 Make the Ask Easy: Be Specific and Respect Their Time 28:51 Add Value First: The Go-Giver Mindset (and Why Karma Works) 30:13 Building Relationships with Your Skip: Do Great Work + Lead with Empathy 33:40 Create Visibility Beyond Your Role: Coaches, Boards, and Career “Hacks” 36:04 Personal Brand That Pays Off: Writing, Speaking, and Staying Top-of-Mind 39:53 The Hidden Cost of Visibility: Too Many Asks & Setting Boundaries 42:56 Who You Are Outside Work: Mission Alignment, Family, Hobbies, and Health 45:55 Balancing It All: A 2x2 Framework for Goals vs. Joy + Daily Habits 49:47 Visibility Skills That Scale: Speak Business/Finance + Customer Obsession 52:19 Resources, Recommendations, and How to Connect (Final Wrap) Resources 📚Resources: Books Go-Giver book - https://thegogiver.com Seven Habits of Highly Effective People - https://www.franklincovey.com/courses/the-7-habits/ Podcasts 20VC - https://www.youtube.com/@20VC This Week in Startups - https://thisweekinstartups.com 🌟 Where to find Surbhi  On LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/surbhi7/ 💫 Where to find Ha  On LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/hanguyen-spero/ NextStep Advisory & Consulting Website https://nextstepfwd.com 🙋‍♀️ Where to find Women in Product: On LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/company/women-in-product/posts/ Website https://womenpm.org/ Join the Community https://womenpm.org/wip-community/

    56 min
  8. Recharged and Ready: The Value of Good Transitions & Disconnecting From Titles

    FEB 10

    Recharged and Ready: The Value of Good Transitions & Disconnecting From Titles

    Deb Liu joins Carmen Palmer for the first episode in our monthly series, In The Lead. Deb shares insights from her year away from titles and company affiliations - what she did, what she learned and the clarity she is carrying forward in 2026. As always, Deb has great insights and advice. In The Lead is a new monthly series on Product Rising. It will share thought provoking conversations hosted by Carmen Palmer, CEO of Women In Product, with a wide range of industry leaders. It uses a revolving set of questions to get an engaging combination of hot takes and deep insight into the current state of product, working and leading in today’s technology industry, and building effective organizations. 00:45 Meet Deb Liu: Tech Executive and Author 02:28 Defining Success in the New Year 03:03 The Blank Name Tag Club 04:58 Navigating Career Transitions 09:27 Overcoming Failure: The Facebook Marketplace Story 14:08 Building Perseverance Through Adversity 18:43 The Evolving Role of Product Managers 22:07 Understanding Customer Needs in AI Startups 23:26 Understanding Customer Needs 24:01 The Role of Product Managers 25:14 Strategic Positioning in Companies 26:09 Adapting to Technological Changes 28:35 Leadership and Empathy 29:33 Opportunities for Product Leaders in AI 33:07 Personal Experiences and Insights 36:07 Challenges in Corporate Life 43:15 Future of Leadership and Technology 45:59 Closing Reflections 📚Resources: Perspectives Newsletter On Substack TEDxSanDiego talk - Deb Liu ✨Where to find Deb: On LinkedIn Perspectives Newsletter On Substack Deb’s  Website TEDx Talk 💫 Where to find Carmen: On LinkedIn  🙋🏻‍♀️Where to find Women in Product: On LinkedIn  Website https://womenpm.org/ Join the Community https://womenpm.org/wip-community/

    47 min
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Meet product and technology leaders who are shaping what comes next in a world driven by AI, rapid innovation, and global complexity. Every week, we explore the ways bold women and men are navigating change, leading with impact, and redefining the future of product leadership.

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    Women In Product
  • Years Active
    2021 - 2026
  • Episodes
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