Proximity Is Power

Gage Heward

Welcome to Proximity Is Power, hosted by me, Gage Heward. At 17, right before high school graduation, my dad and I had a pivotal conversation over lunch. He asked about my post-school plans, and I told him I wanted to be successful like he was. He shared that his success was shaped by two key factors: the books he read and the people he met. Emphasizing the influence of your closest circle, he said you become the average of the five people around you. This philosophy gave birth to Proximity of Power. Since then, I've embraced the habit of daily reading and listening to books while actively seeking out successful individuals to learn from. Living my dad’s advice completely transformed every aspect of my life in a positive way. While I'm not perfect, I've grown significantly in all areas of life: physically mentally, spiritually, and emotionally/socially. Proximity Is Power shares inspiring interviews with the most successful people in each area of life that I can find with the goal to inspire YOU to unlock your inner power and live your best life.

  1. 22h ago

    Justin Prince | Be the One — From Broke and Living Above a Garage to $2 Billion in Revenue | Proximity Is Power

    In this episode I sit down with Justin Prince, author of Be the One, founder of Make Wellness, and one of the wildest stories I have had on this show. Justin went from working construction and flipping pizzas, living in a loft above his in-laws garage with a pregnant wife and a failing business, to building five multimillion dollar companies and generating over two billion dollars in revenue. Then at the peak of it all, a private equity group tried to bury him. He fought back. And then his new company did $100 million in its first 11 months. We cover: 
✅ Growing up moving 13 times through his teenage years and what that built in him
 ✅ Why he dropped out of college after a semester and a half and never looked back
 ✅ The eight shifts in a row he worked at a mall kiosk and sold nothing, going $400 into debt 
✅ How Tony Robbins incantations turned him into the best salesman his company had ever seen 
✅ Dream, struggle, victory and why the size of your victory is always equal to the size of your struggle
 ✅ Why your story is not your struggle, it is how you overcame it
 ✅ The identity process behind success and why you will never outperform the way you see yourself
 ✅ How to update your belief systems and why your brain cannot not answer a question 
✅ Building a company to half a billion in revenue in 2021 and then getting blindsided by private equity
 ✅ Sitting his daughters down in a New York hotel room at midnight and telling them their dad got fired
 ✅ Why they did not betray him, they set him free, strengthened him, and planted him
 ✅ Make Wellness hitting $100 million in its first 11 months
 ✅ The Zenith Group, Tony Robbins most intimate mastermind of 35 people, and what that proximity has been worth
 ✅ Why investing in yourself is always a good investment and what he means by always
 ✅ Getting into SpaceX early and why it still does not compare to the return he has gotten investing in himself
 ✅ The 4,094 people it took across 12 generations to create you and what that means for how you live Books mentioned: Be the One — Justin Prince Quote to live by:
"They tried to bury us. They did not realize we were seeds." Whether you are in the struggle section right now or just trying to figure out who you are built to be, this episode will remind you that your story is not over and the best chapter might be the one you are about to write.

  2. Jul 21

    John Cheney | The AI Business Masterclass — Built a Business in a Weekend, Scaled to $4.5M | Proximity Is Power

    In this episode I sit down with John Cheney, serial entrepreneur, AI strategist, and founder of Gen AIPI, the General AI Proficiency Institute. John previously raised $20 million for tech startups, worked with Fortune 500 companies like Meta, Google, and Nestle, and then built his next company from scratch with just $400, scaling it to over $4.5 million in annual revenue. He has also partnered with Tony Robbins and Dean Graziosi to bring AI education to their audiences worldwide. This one is different. No fluff, no hype. Just a guy who actually builds with AI every day showing you what is possible right now. We cover: ✅ How John built a full business in a weekend using Replit and went from idea to $15,000 contract in five days ✅ Why he turned down a $105,000 dev shop quote after discovering he could do it himself for $200 ✅ How getting mentioned on Joe Rogan led to a partnership with Tony Robbins ✅ The biggest mistake people make with AI right now and why being threatened by it is the wrong move ✅ Why AI is Iron Man's suit, not the replacement for the person wearing it ✅ The tools he actually uses every day including Replit, Manus, WhisperFlow, Chat GPT, Claude, and Grok ✅ How to separate the real AI tools from the noise ✅ Why copying and pasting AI content is killing your brand ✅ What happens when an entire company starts working 30% better with AI ✅ His take on UBI, why he strongly disagrees with Elon's prediction, and what it would actually do to society ✅ Why humans are creators at their core and what happens when we stop creating ✅ His nine year old son who builds video games on Replit with a $100 monthly budget ✅ The free AI proficiency test you can take right now and put on your LinkedIn Quote to live by: "Get out of the shower and go do the idea. That is where the difference is made." Whether you are a business owner trying to figure out AI or just someone who wants to stop falling behind, this episode will show you exactly where to start and why the window to get ahead is still open.

  3. Jul 14

    Jonny Christensen | Building Wealth by Design — Real Estate & Living a Life You Actually Planned | Proximity Is Power

    In this episode, I sit down with Jonny Christensen, Keller Williams Utah Regional Director, CEO and co-owner of the Red Sign Team, and one of the most intentional wealth builders I have had on the show. Jonny grew up in American Fork with a single mom, lost her five months after high school graduation, and used that to fuel one of the most disciplined financial journeys I have heard. He has been investing in real estate since 2009, built a portfolio that now includes rental units, office buildings, retail centers, triple net leases, and land developments, all while running one of the most respected real estate organizations in Utah. This one is equal parts practical and personal. We cover:
 ✅ Growing up poor with a single mom and how that shaped his financial identity
 ✅ The left side right side method and why he has never pulled a dollar from his investment world in 19 years
 ✅ Why being a multimillionaire living in a 250K townhome was one of the smartest things he ever did
 ✅ How he de-weeded the bad financial programming from his family before he could grow real wealth
 ✅ Why his dad told him not to buy his first rental property and what he did anyway ✅ The four benefits of a rental property and how to calculate ROI beyond just cash flow
 ✅ Why he would still buy a property that loses 300 dollars a month in certain scenarios
 ✅ How he rolled single family rentals into commercial, office buildings, and triple net leases
✅ Cost segregation explained and how he structures his purchases to minimize taxes every year
 ✅ Why ten percent of your calendar protected every Sunday and every month changes everything
 ✅ His annual full day goal setting retreat and how he does it with his entire leadership team
 ✅ The Law of Thirds and why leadership burns you out when you skip the mentor level
 ✅ What the number one reason real estate agents fail actually is
 ✅ Why are you successful because of who you are or in spite of it
 ✅ His big takeaway from Date with Destiny and the filtering question that was running his life
 ✅ Why the next five to ten years of AI, robotics, and health longevity have him ninety nine percent excited Books mentioned: * Cashflow Quadrant — Robert Kiyosaki * Hold — Keller Williams * The Millionaire Real Estate Agent — Gary Keller * Awaken the Giant Within — Tony Robbins Quote to live by:
"What you ain't changing, you're choosing." Whether you are early in your investing journey, leading a team, or just trying to build a life you actually designed, this episode will give you a blueprint and the mindset to go execute it.

  4. Jul 7

    Skye Mackintosh | Day 1 to 175K Followers — Consistency, Identity & Why Hardly Any of This Matters | Proximity Is Power

    In this episode, I sit down with one of my good friends and someone who has been on my list since day one of this podcast, Skye Mackintosh. Skye has been in door to door sales for nine years at Aptive, grew up the youngest of seven on a farm in Lehi, Utah, and built a reputation as one of the most consistent and genuinely good humans in the industry. Then six months ago he started an Instagram account called Daily Reps Sky, posting a workout every single day. He is now on day 247, has grown to over 175,000 followers on Instagram alone, landed brand deals including GNC, and is building something that is just getting started. This one is real, personal, and packed with lessons that go way beyond sales or social media. We cover:  ✅ Growing up the youngest of seven on a farm and what it taught him about hard work  ✅ His mission president who started in door to door, built and sold companies, and raised Skye's vision for himself  ✅ Writing a contract on day one committing to never work hourly or salary again  ✅ Getting married five weeks before his first summer with $700 and $14K in debt  ✅ How his brother in law told him he probably shouldn't sell and what that did to his first summer  ✅ Why it all happens in your head and how belief creates results before skill does  ✅ The difference between avoiding the hole and getting out of the hole  ✅ Why proximity is power showed up in his team stats every single week  ✅ What started Daily Reps Guy, why he was scared to launch it, and what changed on day 58 ✅ Why views do not equal followers and what actually makes people come back tomorrow  ✅ The content strategy behind growing from zero to 175K in six months  ✅ Why you need to be worth following, not just authentic  ✅ The 80/20 rule of social media and why 90% of his followers came from less than 1% of his videos  ✅ His two core daily habits and why having a minimum matters more than having an ideal  ✅ Form Good Habits or Bad Ones Form You — the book he is writing  ✅ Why he would tell the world that hardly any of this matters Books mentioned: * Outwitting the Devil — Napoleon Hill * The Motivation Myth — Jeff Haden * As a Man Thinketh — James Allen Quote to live by: "There are dozens of rules for success, but none of them work unless you do." Whether you are trying to build consistency, grow something from scratch, or just figure out who you are becoming, this episode will remind you that the small daily things are the whole game.

  5. Jun 30

    Chandler Smith | $50 Million in Real Estate, Zero Taxes & the Blueprint On How | Proximity Is Power

    In this episode, I sit down with Chandler Smith, one of my biggest mentors in real estate investing and honestly one of the main reasons my portfolio looks the way it does today. Chandler spent over twelve years in door to door pest control sales, broke company records his rookie year, helped build teams that did over $38 million in a single summer, and along the way quietly built a $50 million real estate portfolio with 260 residential doors, storage units, commercial gyms, a motel, and more. He also built a YouTube channel with nearly 500,000 combined followers teaching people exactly how he did it. And he did all of this while navigating one of the hardest seasons a person can go through. This one is packed. We go deep on real estate strategy, taxes, social media, door to door, and what it actually means to build a life worth living. We cover: ✅ Why door to door was the springboard for everything Chandler has built ✅ Why he never started his own pest control company and has zero regrets about it ✅ The overlap between negotiation, income, and tax problems that made real estate a perfect fit ✅ Why real estate is not dead and how to use the market's negativity as your pitch to sellers ✅ The power of seller finance and how Chandler got a 16 unit deal at 3% interest with massive cash flow ✅ How to find deals right now: repetition, correction, calibration, and why most people quit too early ✅ Cost segregation explained simply and how Chandler pays zero in taxes every year legally ✅ How to use bonus depreciation at 100% to wipe out your tax bill this year ✅ Return on equity vs cash on cash and why you're choosing to buy your properties every single day ✅ When to sell, when to refinance, and when to just keep holding ✅ Why wealth is created in concentration and kept in diversification ✅ The three things every door to door rep needs to hear about their own business ✅ Stop being a curb sitter and why the middle ground steals life from people ✅ How to build a social media following by making content that actually helps people ✅ The retreats Chandler runs and why they've changed his life more than anything else he does Books mentioned: The Happiness Advantage — Shawn Achor The One Thing — Gary Keller The Untethered Soul — Michael Singer Brandon Turner's Real Estate Investing Books Quote to live by: "Successful people know what they want, so they make decisions quickly and they hold to those decisions." Whether you're on the doors this summer, trying to figure out what to do with your money, or just looking for a blueprint from someone who has actually done it at every level, this episode is required listening.

  6. Jun 23

    Brody Fausett | Dream It Write It Build It Live It — Financial Freedom at 25| Proximity Is Power

    In this episode, I sit down with Brody Fausett, lifestyle investor, real estate coach, and someone who has been on my list to have on this podcast since day one. Brody achieved financial freedom at 25, built a multimillion dollar real estate portfolio, owns multiple seven figure companies, completed one of the three hardest foot races in the world, and lives on a farm in Maui with his wife and three daughters. This one is equal parts practical and inspiring. Brody breaks down exactly how he thinks about wealth, real estate, and building a life by design instead of by default. We cover: ✅ Why he bought his first house in college before he ever knocked a door ✅ Eight years in door to door and why the golden handcuffs don't care if they're gold ✅ How his wife pointed out he was living below his potential and what he did about it ✅ The leap from guaranteed good to potentially great and why most people never make it ✅ Why real estate is not dead and what actually dies in a tough market ✅ Cash on cash return vs return on equity vs return on energy and why all three matter ✅ The HELOC strategy that let him tap 500K in equity without touching his low interest rate ✅ Why you make your money when you buy not when you sell ✅ How to look at real estate like a puzzle instead of a single number ✅ Why you should never invest in what you don't understand at least a little ✅ Wealth is created in concentration and kept in diversification ✅ Dream it, write it, build it, live it and why the writing step changes everything ✅ How a notebook he found confirmed his goals were already coming true ✅ The AI tools he's quietly building that are saving companies hundreds of thousands of dollars ✅ His free real estate investing AI quiz that maps out your full 90 day to five year roadmap Books mentioned: * Millionaire Success Habits — Dean Graziosi * Take the Stairs — Rory Vaden * Rich Dad Poor Dad — Robert Kiyosaki * Free to Focus — Michael Hyatt Quote to live by: "That which you persist in doing becomes easier." Whether you want to build a real estate portfolio, escape the golden handcuffs, or just start living more intentionally, this episode will show you what is possible when you get clear on what you actually want and go after it.

  7. Jun 16

    Mosiah Martinez | From Mexico City to the Top — Faith, Family & Building an Empire as an Immigrant | Proximity Is Power

    In this episode, I sit down with Mosiah Martinez, a guy I met back at Aptive in 2018 and have watched build something really special ever since. Mosiah came to the US at 21 from Mexico City with no English, no connections, and barely enough money to survive. Today he's the President of Sales at Luminate Energy, a real estate investor, and one of the most heard voices in the door to door space with nearly 80,000 followers across two social media accounts. This one goes deep. We talk business, faith, family, and what really matters when life gets hard. We cover: ✅ Growing up in Mexico City and moving to the US at 21 with almost nothing ✅ Learning English on a mission in Chile and using it to sell door to door in Texas ✅ Making $53,000 his first summer despite his manager not believing he could even speak English ✅ Why he became the top rookie on a team of 38 mostly experienced reps ✅ Six years at Aptive, building teams, and why pest control is the best industry to learn recruiting ✅ How surrounding himself with the right people at Aptive got him into real estate investing ✅ Why money has never been his identity and what happens when it becomes yours ✅ His son Lazarus, born with multiple congenital heart conditions, four months in the NICU, and how that changed everything ✅ Why success in business is often a direct reflection of success at home ✅ The social media strategy that took him from 2,000 to 30,000 followers in one year posting daily memes ✅ How he uses his pinned posts to convert followers into recruits ✅ Why entertainment beats education on social media and how to make content that actually gets shared ✅ How his faith in God has been the unfair advantage behind everything he's built ✅ Slowing down spiritually and why that matters more than any business metric Books mentioned: • How to Stop Worrying and Start Living — Dale Carnegie • How to Build Your Personal Brand for Under $1,000 — Dan Fleischman • The Bible and Book of Mormon Quote to live by: "No success in life can compensate for failure in the home." Whether you're just starting out or trying to figure out what all of this is actually for, Mosiah's story will remind you that the foundation matters more than the scoreboard.

  8. Jun 9

    Ben Kjar | Born to Stand Out — The 3-Step Formula to Shatter Any Goal | Proximity Is Power

    In this episode, I sit down with Ben Kjar, five time national wrestling champion, the first ever All-American at Utah Valley University, real estate entrepreneur, and one of the most powerful speakers I've ever had on this show. Ben was born with Cruzon syndrome, a rare facial difference. His doctors told him he wouldn't live an ordinary life. He chose an extraordinary one instead. This conversation hit different. Raw, real, and deeply personal from start to finish. We cover: ✅ Growing up with Cruzon syndrome and praying every night for a different face ✅ The grocery store moment that shattered him and the thing his mom said that changed everything ✅ Why being different is not a curse but a calling ✅ The three step formula to shatter any goal: call your shot, get shot callers, set the shot clock ✅ Why most people fail their goals and it has nothing to do with talent or desire ✅ The difference between influencers and people who actually empower and inspire ✅ Why buffaloes run into the storm and what that means for your life ✅ The biggest flex of mankind is inner peace, not money or status ✅ Why vulnerability is the highest level of leadership according to Good to Great ✅ How jealousy disappears the moment you ask one honest question ✅ Why you can't be jealous of someone unless you'd trade everything you have for everything they have ✅ How Ben called his shot 20 years ago to share a stage with Tony Robbins and it happened two weeks before this episode ✅ The morning routine he and his wife built after adopting three kids in 13 months ✅ Why your default level of living is your kids highest potential of what they think is reality ✅ The documentary Standout now streaming on Amazon Prime, Apple and Fandango Books mentioned: * Good to Great — Jim Collins * The Bible and Book of Mormon Quote to live by: "Two roads diverged in the woods and I chose the one less traveled by and that has made all the difference." — Robert Frost Whether you're struggling with self-confidence, chasing a goal that scares you, or just trying to figure out who you are and why you're here, this episode will shake something loose in you. One of the best we've done.

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Welcome to Proximity Is Power, hosted by me, Gage Heward. At 17, right before high school graduation, my dad and I had a pivotal conversation over lunch. He asked about my post-school plans, and I told him I wanted to be successful like he was. He shared that his success was shaped by two key factors: the books he read and the people he met. Emphasizing the influence of your closest circle, he said you become the average of the five people around you. This philosophy gave birth to Proximity of Power. Since then, I've embraced the habit of daily reading and listening to books while actively seeking out successful individuals to learn from. Living my dad’s advice completely transformed every aspect of my life in a positive way. While I'm not perfect, I've grown significantly in all areas of life: physically mentally, spiritually, and emotionally/socially. Proximity Is Power shares inspiring interviews with the most successful people in each area of life that I can find with the goal to inspire YOU to unlock your inner power and live your best life.

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