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Rebel Therapist is the podcast where you'll get support in being a therapist entrepreneur. I'm Annie Schuessler, therapist and business coach and strategist for therapists. I'll support you in taking your work beyond the therapy room to make an even bigger impact. I interview Rebel Therapists who are already doing work beyond the therapy room, from running workshops to writing books to creating online courses. You'll hear about how they created their unique businesses, the mindset work they've done, and the mistakes they've made along the way. Get the inspiration and information you need to be a Rebel Therapist, starting now.

Rebel Therapist Annie Schuessler

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Rebel Therapist is the podcast where you'll get support in being a therapist entrepreneur. I'm Annie Schuessler, therapist and business coach and strategist for therapists. I'll support you in taking your work beyond the therapy room to make an even bigger impact. I interview Rebel Therapists who are already doing work beyond the therapy room, from running workshops to writing books to creating online courses. You'll hear about how they created their unique businesses, the mindset work they've done, and the mistakes they've made along the way. Get the inspiration and information you need to be a Rebel Therapist, starting now.

    Consulting Side Hustle With Kristen Meinzer

    Consulting Side Hustle With Kristen Meinzer

    Many of Rebel Therapist's program participants and listeners are brilliant folx who feel intimidated by the idea of consulting for organizations, and yet they have the gifts those organizations need.
    I'm talking about you.
    It's part of my mission to help healers, especially those who are queer/trans and/or BIPOC to parachute into organizations, facilitate real change, make lots of money, and not lose themselves in the process.
    If you want in on this exploration, this is for you. I'm so excited to bring you one of my personal heroes, Kristen Meinzer.
    Kristen is an award-winning podcaster, culture critic, royal watcher, and author. She currently hosts Movie Therapy with Rafer & Kristen, a podcast in which listeners write in with their quandaries, and she and her cohost Rafer Guzman respond with a mix of advice and viewing recommendations. She also hosts By The Book, a podcast in which she and her cohost Jolenta Greenberg live by the rules of a different self-help book in each episode. Her book, So You Want to Start a Podcast, won the Audie Award for best business/personal development audiobook of 2020. She was named a 2020 Woman of the Year by The Women's Center in Washington DC. In 2021, she was selected by the U.S. Department of State to serve in the U.S. Speaker's Program.
    As you may have noticed, most of the work she does is NOT consulting. Consulting is only about 10% of her business.
    If you'd like to bring your gifts to organizations as a side hustle, whether or not you want to grow that side hustle into a full time thing, listen up. You'll hear what worked for her, and what she's learned through mistakes to do differently.
    Your gift is probably not the same as hers. You're probably not poised to be a world class podcast consultant. Your gift may be around communication or healing trauma or Diversity Equity and Inclusion or something else. As you listen, think about how you could be bringing YOUR gifts into organizations.
    Here's some of what we talked about:
    Developing her primary consulting packages based on her years of experience Creating a valuable "prescription" document for each of her clients Find allies in organizations, especially if you're part of a marginalized community How she deals with the isolation and loneliness of being an entrepreneur Her mistake early on of giving away too much without getting paid How she sets up her pricing for individuals and for corporations The scary early months of starting her own business Her rolling to-do list and other productivity hacks Here are some takeaways that particularly stand out to me:
    Takeaway #1:
    One way Kristen creates immense value in her consulting work is by giving her clients a document with plans mapped out in tangible steps. She calls it her prescription. This is a way she demonstrates the value she's delivered and it helps the clients make the best use of the consultation.
    Takeaway #2:
    Especially if you're part of a marginalized group, look for people in an organization who can advocate for you. Find allies, nurture relationships and don't try to do everything alone.
    Takeaway #3:
    Kristen shared an early mistake so that you don't have to make it too. She gave too much away without getting paid. Now she's careful to limit what she shares before she officially gets hired.
    Takeaway #4:
    A piece of advice Kristen would give to her past self who was about to start her own business: Believe it's going to be OK and don't overwork out of anxiety.
    Show notes at http://rebeltherapist.me/podcast/154

    • 41 min
    Get Corporate Gigs With Femily

    Get Corporate Gigs With Femily

    Let's go get that corporate money. Shall we?
    Many of Rebel Therapist's program participants and listeners are brilliant folx who feel intimidated by the idea of consulting with organizations, and yet they have the gifts those organizations need.
    Yeah, I'm talking about you.
    It's part of my mission to help healers, especially those who are queer/trans and/or BIPOC to parachute into organizations, facilitate real change, make lots of money, and not lose themselves in the process.
    If you want in on this exploration, make sure to listen to the next 3 episodes. I'm so excited to kick this exploration off with Femily.
    As a Gender/Cultural Studies MA with a big firm management consulting background Femily speaks at and advises Silicon Valley and other male-majority sectors and teams, like law, finance, and engineering – on gender, equity, and building an ally culture. Femily's popular, digital courses give ambitious women and nonbinary people concrete, evidence-based instruction on leading in today's male-majority world, rebelling against disempowering "shoulds," outsmarting all "isms", and making big life/business changes that really "stick."
    Here's some of what we talked about:
    When you're starting out with corporate gigs, it's about finding a warm contact Get really clear on your niche and name a problem corporations are actually trying to solve Tie your services to money by showing them that your services will help them make or keep more of it Once you're known in your niche, corporations will be coming to you Put energy into creating your reputation as a thought leader Some things that work: Speaking, being on a panel, being a moderator, being on podcasts, networking An example of a 15K plus consulting package she's done Why she charges $400 per hour right now How to think about "convincing" corporations to hire you Do "fake it til you make it" in terms of confidence, but don't tone down your magic or your identity Nail your "I help" statement so that you're irresistible to a particular industry Her group program for feminists and queer people about how to step into the spotlight Why therapists should consider providing 1:1 consulting or coaching within organizations Here are some takeaways that particularly stand out to me:
    Takeaway #1:
    It's probably going to be a warm contact that gets you in the first few doors. It's NOT likely to be advertising or cold calling that gets you started.
    Takeaway #2:
    Giving a talk does not usually lead to consulting gigs. Position yourself for one or the other.
    Takeaway #3:
    Niche hard. Figure out WHICH corporations you're interested in working with and solve one of their urgent problems. Ask yourself: "How can I be helpful to a very niche industry in a very specific part of the world?"
    Takeaway #4:
    Therapists and healers are the perfect people to do some highly specialized 1:1 or small group work with corporations.
    Show notes at http://rebeltherapist.me/podcast/153

    • 42 min
    Flip To Coaching With Dr. Lynyetta Willis

    Flip To Coaching With Dr. Lynyetta Willis

    Thinking about making the flip to coaching? You might be excited about the liberation that comes with expanding beyond private:
    Working from anywhere.
    Working with folks from everywhere.
    Breaking free of the limits of your therapy license (if you've got one).
    Getting to create and serve in new ways.
    If you're going to make that transition, should you do it quickly? Or slowly?
    When I was making a transition from private practice to this business, I did it pretty slowly. It wasn't until about 2015 that I fully put myself into what's now Rebel Therapist. In internet years 6 years is a long time.
    My guest this week, Dr. Lynyetta Willis, made the flip all at once. She had a thriving private practice, and for reasons you'll hear in this conversation, she decided to flip completely into coaching all at once.
    You're going to be taking notes not just on how she's built her coaching business, but also on how she sets up her time and creates harmony between her business and the rest of her life.
    Here's a little more about her:
    Dr. Lynyetta G. Willis, psychologist and family empowerment coach, helps frustrated families break unhelpful patterns and cross-generational cycles so they can move from stable misery into peaceful harmony. She helps her clients and audiences learn to strengthen their parenting, partnership, and personal growth practices so they can feel harmony in their hearts and homes...and she is sometimes available for one on one business coaching.
    Here's some of what we talked about:
    Shutting down a thriving therapy practice and starting a coaching practice Being completely mobile with her business Her answer to whether it's better to transition slowly into coaching or make a flip all at once (it depends) When your business gets out of harmony with your life Taking flex weeks and other ways of getting into harmony Creating a signature offer out of what she found herself doing over and over again Her business model, including both group work and 1:1 coaching packages How she approaches growing her audience and bringing in clients What we both learned from our experiments with Facebook Ads Her morning and evening rituals Consolidating tasks into theme days Her family of 4 plus their cat taking a trip in an RV! Here are some takeaways that particularly stand out to me:
    Takeaway #1:
    Consider building down time into the rhythm of your business. Rather than waiting to burn out, look at how you can build time off into the structure of how you do things. Dr. Lynyetta takes a flex week at the end of every month.
    Takeaway #2:
    Do your rituals when they work for you. Don't worry about what self care is supposed to look like. Dr. Lynyetta is not a morning person, so lots of her rituals happen in the evenings. Pay attention to your body's natural preferences when you're setting up your life.
    Takeaway #3:
    Theme days are amazing. Dr. Lynyetta does her consult calls on Mondays. She's got a particular shape to each day of the week and that helps her focus and bring the needed parts of herself to each day. If you haven't tried theme days, I highly recommend giving them a try, especially if you're stretching into a new project.
    Those are 3 of my takeaways.
    What stood out to you? Send me an email at info@coachingwithannie.com. even better, include a voice memo so I can share your voice on the pod.
    Tell me what stood out to you from this conversation and what it's helping you rethink in your own business.
    Show notes at http://rebeltherapist.me/podcast/152

    • 44 min
    Build Your Team With Tara McMullin

    Build Your Team With Tara McMullin

    We're talking about building your team today. Have you experienced a nightmare with hiring or managing a team member? Or are you imagining a future nightmare because of what you've heard from your peers? Are you confused about what role you should be hiring for? Or whether it's time to hire?
    Our guest, Tara McMullin, leads 2 successful companies, and she's about to share her experiences building and managing both of those teams.
    A bonus treat for me is that she's an introvert, like me, so we get to lean into some particular challenges and solutions for introverted bosses.
    If you want to hear an earlier episode with Tara from 2 years ago, head to episode 102, which I'll link in the show notes.
    Tara McMullin is a business strategist, podcaster, writer, and producer. She's the founder & host of What Works, a platform for small business owners building stronger businesses. She's also the co-founder of YellowHouse.Media, a podcast production agency that helps small business owners produce standout podcasts to grow their businesses.
    Here's some of what we talked about:
    How she has found her team members without the traditional pathways Why Tara and I agree that you probably shouldn't use a VA agency Finding low-energy and effective ways to introduce your new hire to your company Documenting your processes will help you with onboarding team members Why we should think about operations within our business and products as having huge overlap The liberation Tara experienced when she started hiring employees instead of contractors How the responsibility of running a team helps Tara show up in her business the way she wants to Strategies Tara uses to take time away from her team to do deep work Why you should create an organizational chart even if you're a company of one right now How Tara thinks about whether it's time for you to hire someone or simplify your business Why you might want to hire an extrovert if you're an introvert! Here are some takeaways that particularly stand out to me:
    Takeaway #1:
    The team member you are looking for is probably already in your orbit. Tara has found her team members by looking to people she already knew or who were in her network.
    Takeaway #2:
    Document everything repeatable that you do in your company so that you can easily share it with a team member. We talked about using the platforms Notion, Clickup, and Google Docs, and most of all, using video through a platform like loom.
    Takeaway #3:
    Switching from hiring contractors to hiring employees made a big difference in Tara's experience within her company. She noticed an unexpected level of liberation and feeling supported by her team.
    Takeaway #4:
    Even if you're a company of one now, Tara recommends making an organizational chart. That will help you see that you are actually doing many jobs, and it will help you to organize your time, respect your energy limits, and get ready to hire your next team member.
    Those are 4 of my takeaways.
    What stood out to you?
    Did this conversation help you avoid a hiring mistake? Are you thinking differently about your business? Are you surprised by how many jobs you're actually doing?
    Send me an email at info@coachingwithannie.com. Even better, include a voice memo so I can share your voice on the pod.
    Show notes at http://rebeltherapist.me/podcast/151

    • 49 min
    Follow Energy In Your Business With Staci Boden

    Follow Energy In Your Business With Staci Boden

    I've been paying attention to my guest's work for probably about 10 years. As soon as I heard her talking about following energy in your life, I was intrigued. It felt deeply right to me. And I also felt like.....well.....I wasn't ready for it yet. I wasn't ready to fully take in her ideas because I was a bit more in push, hustle and suffer mode. I think part of me believed that "following energy" would mean not getting my shit done. I thought maybe following energy would lead me to laziness. As the breadwinner, a sometimes depressed person, and someone with a huge vision, I thought following energy could be risky.
    But I kept reading her emails and listening to what she had to say.
    I've been noticing that I'm making a bigger impact, including more money, NOT by hustling but by getting into alignment and focusing on the most important things. Lots of my guests, colleagues and clients have been noticing in their businesses too.
    And now I'm totally ready for Staci's message. It's right on time.
    Staci Boden is a fiercely loving guide, energy healer, facilitator, ceremonialist and author of Turning Dead Ends into Doorways. For over 20 years, she's been teaching people how to follow energy as a way to navigate anxiety, transform codependency and relocate power inside. As a founder of 7Directions, a 19 year-old dance ceremony, Staci also holds 7Directions evenings, ongoing women’s circles, retreat weekends and facilitator trainings across the SF Bay Area and now, globally online.
    Let's dive into following energy in your life and business with Staci Boden.
    Here's some of what we talked about:
    Discovering the practice of following energy Deciding not to become a therapist How she follows energy in her business Creating the 7Directions dance ceremony and community Following energy to create the offers in her business Creating a facilitator training Following energy in the pandemic Show notes at http://rebeltherapist.me/podcast/150

    • 42 min
    Deep Rest Huge Impact With EbonyJanice Moore

    Deep Rest Huge Impact With EbonyJanice Moore

    You're about to hear how EbonyJanice Moore has dreamed herself free in life and business. You'll be different after you hear from her.
    You'll hear the 80/20 rule that she lives by (and no, it's not the one you've probably heard of before).
    You'll also hear how she identifies her trusted collaborators, why making millions of dollars is where she's headed very quickly, and how she builds and manages her team in a truly caring way.
    Here's a little more about EbonyJanice Moore:
    EbonyJanice is a dynamic lecturer, transformational speaker, and passionate multi-faith preacher focused on Decolonizing Authority, Hip Hop Scholarship, Womanism as a Political and Spiritual/Religious tool for Liberation, Blackness as Religion, Dialogue as central to professional development and personal growth, and Women and Gender Studies focused on black girlhood. EbonyJanice has a B.A. in Cultural Anthropology and Political Science, and a Master of Arts in Social Change with a concentration in Spiritual Leadership, Womanist Theology, and Racial Justice. She is the founder of Black Girl Mixtape, a multi-platform safe think-space, centering the intellectual authority of black women in the form of a lecture series, a podcast, and an online learning institute lead by black women scholars, and Dream Yourself Free, a Spiritual Mentoring project focused on black women's healing, dreaming, ease, play, and wholeness as their activism and resistance work.
    Here's some of what we talked about:
    What her coaching programs are and how they work Why healing and liberation are a central to all of her programs Collaborating with other healers The 80/20 rule EbonyJanice lives from: 80 percent Internal and 20 percent Action. Literally. Her initial resistance to taking days off Her biggest ideas arriving when she is giving herself time for deep rest and dreaming The energy and focus she gets when she allows herself to work less Questions to ask yourself as you're assessing who to trust and collaborate with Managing and collaborating with a team of full time employees and interns Advice she'd give her former self about managing a team: Do more healing around your worthiness issues first Knowing she's on her way to making millions of dollars Her pricing revelation: that she was undervaluing the transformation she brings Sharing her wealth with the Black women she works with Being an example of what is possible within a liberated business Here are some takeaways that particularly stand out to me.
    Takeaway #1:
    The 80/20 rule is to put 80 percent of your time into the internal work of healing, dreaming and resting, and 20 percent of your time into action. It will not feel comfortable. It changed everything for EbonyJanice.
    Takeaway #2:
    EbonyJanice says you need to trust yourself and your inner "mm!" when you're choosing your collaborators and other work relationships. There's an inner knowing, and it's our job to pay attention to it.
    Takeaway #3:
    EbonyJanice says you need to charge an amount of money that reflects the value of the transformation you are guiding folx through. She says: "I cannot charge you a hundred dollars to change your life forever. That is unfair to you because you could get it in your mind that this is just worth a hundred dollars, and then you could treat it like this is just a hundred dollars."
    Takeaway #4:
    Part of making millions of dollars, in addition to that she deserves it and her ancestors deserve it, is to show what is possible in a business when you truly care for your team and share the wealth.
    Show notes at http://rebeltherapist.me/podcast/149

    • 1 hr 8 min

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116 Ratings

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Nourishing, Supportive and Inspirational

This is a nourishing, supportive podcast for anyone trained as a therapist who feels called to beyond the traditional therapy office, chalk-full of incredibly useful information, inspirational stories, and wisdom. If you are on that journey, it feels like circling up with some really good, smart people who are right there with you and who know you can do It.

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So Awesome!

I have probably listened to every episode of this podcast, if your are a healer or therapist, it's essential. It led me to work with Annie and I get so much out of these discussions. :)

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So encouraging

I love hearing about other therapists journeys and the details of their practices - how many clients they see, what they charge, and what they would tell their younger selves! It is really encouraging to me as I set out in growing my practice from part time to full time. Binge worthy!

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