She Sells He Sells

Krista and Brian Demcher

Most people think selling is something you do at work, but Krista and Brian Demcher have spent nearly three decades proving otherwise - in corporate sales rooms, entrepreneurial ventures, and over 25 years of marriage and raising a family, which is honestly where the real persuasion happens. Every week on this sales and communication podcast, they bring one bold idea worth buying and walk you through the story behind it, the case for it, and the pushback against it - so by the end, you don't just know where you stand, you understand exactly how you got there. Think of it as a persuasion and storytelling masterclass disguised as a really good conversation. Because a good idea is only as good as your ability to sell it! Sales skills are life skills...and this show is where you learn them. New episodes every Monday.

  1. 10h ago

    215. Late Bloomers Win in the End (Why Success After 40 Is the Norm)

    Krista makes the case that midlife is not too late — your peak years for success, reinvention, and growth are still ahead of you. Think you missed your window? The research says otherwise — success after 40 is the norm, not the exception. This week's sell: late bloomers win in the end. In this solo episode, Krista takes on the narrative most of us grew up with: that success comes early, you find your one thing in your twenties, and if you haven't "made it" by 45, it's over. She's calling that what it is — and making the case for midlife reinvention with a 47-year-old ballerina, an oak tree, and the science of when your brain actually peaks. Here's the thing about oak trees: they don't produce a single acorn for at least their first 20 years, and their peak production happens between years 50 and 80. It's the reason Krista named her business Acorn, and it's the perfect model for a human life — decades of rooting and growing before the best output arrives. The story starts in a ballet studio, where Krista recently returned decades after her teenage ballet chapter ended abruptly and on someone else's terms. Is it a little embarrassing to be a 47-year-old woman at the barre, posting the videos on social media? Sure. It's also empowering, liberating, and proof of the whole idea: it's never too late, and being seen trying is the thing most of us over 40 have stopped letting ourselves do. Then she brings the receipts: a University of Western Australia study found that psychological functioning — emotional stability, decision making, moral reasoning — peaks between ages 55 and 60. Not under 30. Not under 40. The skills that matter most in business, leadership, and life are still climbing when the world tells you you're past your prime. The conversation closes on the real stakes: not failure, but regret. The email you didn't send, the career change you didn't make, the thing you'll wish you'd tried. Plus the late bloomers who prove the point — Vera Wang designing her first wedding dress at 40, Julia Child publishing her first cookbook at 49, Judge Judy hitting TV at 53, and Grandma Moses illustrating her first book at 72. KEY QUOTE "It's not about peaking. It's about blooming." — Krista Demcher IN THIS EPISODE 0:00 — The sell: late bloomers win in the end 0:45 — Where the term "late bloomer" comes from (and why it gets a bad rap) 1:15 — Ava laughs in Krista's face: "Mom, you were married at 22" 2:05 — Why you don't want to peak in high school — or ever 2:50 — Back to ballet at 47: reclaiming an unfinished chapter 4:20 — At a crossroads: the rebrand, late Gen X, and being raised to bloom early 6:20 — 30 under 30, 40 under 40: how we learned to worship early success 7:30 — The giving-up narrative — and why it's total b******t 8:30 — What the perimenopause conversation teaches us about rewriting the script 9:05 — Being seen trying (and who's watching when you do) 10:00 — Why the business is named Acorn: from tiny acorns, mighty oaks grow 10:58 — The oak tree timeline: no acorns until year 20 — sometimes year 50 13:00 — Peak acorn production happens between years 50 and 80 14:20 — The data: the University of Western Australia study 15:45 — Psychological functioning peaks between ages 55 and 60 16:10 — Vera Wang, Julia Child, Grandma Moses, and Judge Judy 18:15 — Decades of experience, and why we discount it while others get their bag 19:30 — What to steal from twentysomethings: throw the spaghetti, be seen trying 20:40 — The real cost: lying in bed wishing you'd done the thing 21:35 — "Yes girl, you're doing it" — why the outcome isn't the point 23:00 — The close: do you buy it? Connect with us: Take the FREE Personal Brand Quiz: https://www.kristademcher.com/personal-brand-quiz Instagram: @SheSellsHeSellsPodcast YouTube: She Sells He Sells Podcast

    27 min
  2. Jul 6

    214. Your Breath Is Your Most Underused Tool With TEDx Speaker & Breathwork Coach Stacy Fritz

    You breathe 20,000+ times a day without thinking about it once. This week, Stacy Fritz makes the case for why that needs to change. This week's sell: your breath is your most underused tool. Krista sits down with Stacy Fritz — TEDx speaker, longtime yoga teacher, and 11-time marathoner — who breaks down why most of us are breathing on autopilot when we could be using it to change our state in seconds. Stacy's story starts in an unlikely place: kindergarten rest time, where she remembers being told to "just lie there and breathe" and not understanding why. From there it shows up everywhere — in her marathon training, where learning to match breath to pace kept her from hitting the wall, and most personally, in 2018, when her younger brother Brad was diagnosed with stage four colon cancer. Stacy used breathwork, Reiki, and massage to help him manage pain and anxiety through a two-and-a-half-year illness, and that experience became the spark for VidaBall, the breath-training device she spent over three years building and eventually launched in 2024. Stacy teaches what she calls "coffee, water, and wine" breathing — three simple patterns for three different moments: energizing, balancing, and calming. She walks Krista through each one live, including the 4-7-8 technique she recommends for sleep, and shares the backstage hack she taught a fellow TEDx speaker to calm her nerves seconds before walking onstage. The conversation closes on the bigger stakes: how watching someone's breath tells you more about their actual state than asking "how are you doing," and why Stacy believes most of our chronic stress responses come down to one simple, free, always-available fix. KEY QUOTE "If you want to know how somebody is actually doing, don't ask them how are you doing. Watch the breath." — Stacy Fritz IN THIS EPISODE 0:00 — The sell: your breath is your most underused tool 1:40 — The four parts of a single breath (not two) 3:10 — Is this a Western problem or a global one? 5:25 — Origin story #1: kindergarten rest time and Mrs. Fogle 7:45 — Origin story #2: marathon running and hitting the wall 12:25 — Coffee, water, and wine breathing — the framework explained 14:35 — Live demo: coffee breathing (energizing) 16:35 — Live demo: water breathing / box breathing (balance) 18:55 — Live demo: wine breathing, the 4-7-8 method (calming, sleep) 21:30 — Stacy's brother Brad and their "cosmic relationship" 23:05 — Using breathwork and Reiki through Brad's illness 26:15 — The bucket list: dolphins, the Ravens end zone, purple butterflies 27:40 — How Brad's passing led to inventing the VidaBall 29:45 — VidaBall demo: five breathing patterns, light, vibration, scent 33:10 — What's next: manufacturing struggles and future iterations 38:00 — The TEDx talk and the office breather PDF 40:05 — The backstage TEDx hack: breathe in, then start talking 43:50 — The real stakes of never learning to control your state 47:25 — Success story: how nervous system regulation shows up as weight loss, sleep, and inflammation 51:30 — Wrap-up and where to find everything CONNECT WITH STACY FRITZ → VidaBall on Amazon: search "VidaBall"  → Save 15% on VidaBall with code TEDXBREATHE → TEDx talk, "Your Breath Is the Heaviest Thing You Will Ever Hold" → Free download: "The 7 Archetype Office Breathers — Which One Are You?" → Website: www.stacyfritz.com → Instagram: @StacyFritzCommunity → LinkedIn: @StacykFritz --- Connect with us: Take the FREE Personal Brand Quiz: www.kristademcher.com/personal-brand-quiz Instagram: @SheSellsHeSellsPodcast YouTube: She Sells He Sells Podcast

    56 min
  3. Jun 29

    213. How To Sell An Idea Fast: A Fourth of July Speed Round

    We usually take 30 to 60 minutes to sell one idea. This week we are taking on three Fourth of July pitches, one minute each. Do you buy it? This week's episode breaks our own format. Normally we walk you through the 5S Persuasion Framework over a full-length sell — thirty, forty, sometimes sixty minutes with a guest.  This time, Krista and Brian turn the whole episode into a mini masterclass in selling fast: three light, seasonal ideas, each pitched in under a minute, to prove the framework holds up even when you don't have half an hour. As a refresher, the 5 S's are the Sell (the idea, stated plainly), the Story (the emotional hook that makes someone care), the Solution (how to actually do the thing), the Stakes (what's lost if they don't buy in), and the Success (what's gained if they do). Brian opens with his pitch that the Fourth of July belongs on the Mount Rushmore of holidays, drawing on a Fourth of July ceremony he experienced as a cadet at West Point. Krista counters — well, pitches — that taking pictures of fireworks is a waste of your phone's camera roll, using last year's Fourth of July at a friend's pool as her story. And Brian closes the episode arguing that hot dogs are top-notch cuisine, backed by a Fenway Frank and a family trip to Fenway Park. Krista, lifelong hot-dog holdout, does not fully concede. Each idea gets sold twice: once as a clean, start-to-finish pitch hitting all five S's back to back, and once as a real, messy back-and-forth — complete with objections, tangents, and a Bennett cameo. Whether you've got thirty seconds at the water cooler or a full pitch meeting, this episode is proof you don't need forty minutes to sell an idea — you just need the five right moves. Happy Fourth of July. Do you buy it? KEY QUOTE "Hope is an extremely powerful driving force." — Brian Demcher IN THIS EPISODE 0:00 — Welcome back — why this episode breaks the format 1:30 — A refresher: the 5 S's 4:00 — Previewing the three Fourth of July ideas (and a Meet the Parents detour) 7:00 — Sell #1: "The Fourth of July is on the Mount Rushmore of holidays" — Brian's full pitch 9:30 — Breaking down the five S's in Brian's pitch 11:30 — Round two: the Mount Rushmore pitch as a real back-and-forth 20:00 — Sell #2: "Taking pictures of fireworks is a waste of your phone's camera roll" — Krista's full pitch 22:30 — Round two: the firework pitch as a back-and-forth 27:30 — Sell #3: "Hot dogs are top-notch cuisine" — Brian's full pitch, starring a Fenway Frank 30:30 — Round two: the hot dog debate — objections, chicken sausage, and Green Eggs and Ham 37:00 — Wrap-up: compressing the framework into one, three, or five minutes 38:30 — Happy Fourth of July — do you buy it? Connect with us: Take the FREE Personal Brand Quiz: https://www.kristademcher.com/personal-brand-quiz Instagram: @SheSellsHeSellsPodcast YouTube: She Sells He Sells Podcast

    41 min
  4. Jun 22

    212. Wellness Doesn't Have To Be Complicated: Anita & Kelly Krpata On Building BRYTR DAYS

    Try BRYTR DAYS: https://brytrdays.com/?ref=KRISTADEMCHER Use code KRISTA to save 10% ------ What if the reason your supplements aren't working isn't the supplements...it's that no one ever told you they don't actually work together?  That's exactly what Anita and Kelly Krpata, founders of BRYTR DAYS, are selling in this episode, and coming from a couple who built their company out of a four-year cancer battle and a stack of NIH research papers, we should probably listen. Their story starts in May 2022, when a routine colonoscopy turned into Kelly's colon cancer diagnosis. What followed was two rounds of chemo, two surgeries, a recurrence, and one ER visit where Kelly was, by his own doctor's account, minutes from a medical emergency his surgeon had dismissed as normal. It's a story that ends with them walking away from corporate life entirely and building a wellness brand from scratch. In this episode, Anita and Kelly break down why the wellness industry ballooned into a $7 trillion business by convincing us we need 90-plus ingredients stacked into one supplement, what nutritional psychiatry actually is, and why your grandparents managed without any of it. They walk us through exactly what they built instead: 17 clinically studied nutrients across four pathways - hydration, anti-inflammation, gut health, and neuroplasticity - using their "three Rs" framework of right ingredients, right ratios, and right interactions. The energy and recovery results our own hosts have seen in just two months will make you want to start tomorrow. If you've ever stood in front of a cabinet full of supplements and still felt exhausted, or wondered why nothing on the label seems to be working together, this episode is the information you didn't know you needed. In this episode: Wellness doesn't have to be complicated — the $7 trillion industry built on confusion [1:00] The colonoscopy that changed everything: Kelly's May 2022 cancer diagnosis [3:00] The ER scare and the cracks in traditional medicine [7:00] Why traditional medicine treats symptoms instead of the whole body [12:00] Discovering nutritional psychiatry — the link between nutrition and brain health [16:00] What's actually in BRYTR DAYS: 17 nutrients, not 90 [21:00] The three Rs: right ingredients, right ratios, right interactions [25:00] Why "more" isn't better — the supplement industry's biggest myth [29:00] The four pathways: hydration, anti-inflammation, gut health, neuroplasticity [34:00] Real results: energy, recovery, and breaking the reactive cycle [40:00] Where to find BRYTR DAYS and the money-back guarantee [48:00] --- Key Quote: "Life got complicated. Your body didn't." — Anita Krpata ----- Connect with Anita & Kelly Krpata: @brytrdays Website: www.brytrdays.com ---- Connect with us: Instagram: @SheSellsHeSellsPodcast YouTube: She Sells He Sells Podcast

    1h 10m
  5. Jun 15

    211. Cardio Is Making You Gain Weight: Paige Swenson On Strength Training, Perimenopause, And Taking Back Your Body

    What if the thing you've been doing to stay healthy is actually working against you? That's exactly what 13-time Ironman triathlete and certified women's health coach Paige Swenson is selling in this episode, and coming from someone who has crossed the finish line at the Ironman World Championships in Kona, we should probably listen. Paige didn't come to this idea from sitting on the sidelines. She came to it after gaining 15 pounds despite logging more cardio hours in a week than most people do in a month. Her story starts in the fall of 2022 when her jeans stopped fitting and her cycling bibs started telling a different story, and it ends with a science-backed program that changed everything she thought she knew about her body. In this episode, Paige breaks down why women in perimenopause and menopause have a fundamentally different biological response to exercise, what cortisol has to do with the belly pooch that seemingly appeared out of nowhere, and why the "calories in, calories out" advice you grew up with is one of the most outdated things you can follow after 40. She walks us through exactly what shifted for her: the carb cycling, the intermittent fasting, the strength training, and what it looks like to work with a certified coach who has lived every bit of this herself. The results her clients have seen in as little as two weeks will make you want to start tomorrow! If you've ever felt frustrated that nothing is working the way it used to, or if you've been told by a doctor to "just wait it out," this episode is the information you didn't know you needed. In this episode: Why cardio spikes cortisol and what that does to your metabolism during perimenopause [1:30] What it actually takes to complete an Ironman triathlon — and why Paige's experience makes her insight even more credible [3:30] How Paige started gaining weight despite doing everything "right" [6:00] Why the calories in/calories out model fails women over 40, and what to focus on instead [9:00] The nutrition changes that made the biggest difference: gluten, carb choices, and what "the right carbs" actually means [13:00] Brown rice vs. white rice, sweet potatoes, and the glycemic index explained simply [18:00] Why strength training — not more cardio — is the answer, and what "lifting heavy" really means [21:00] HRT is wonderful, but it won't stop muscle loss. Here's why [28:00] The real stakes of doing nothing: what happens to your body if you keep waiting [31:00] Carb cycling and intermittent fasting explained: what they are and why they work [36:00] What Paige does as a coach and how she supports her clients [43:00] Key Quote: "The last thing you need to do as a woman over 40 is count your calories. What matters are your macros - your carbohydrates, proteins, fats, and fiber." — Paige Swenson Connect with Paige Swenson: Instagram: @paigeaswenson Website: paigeswenson.com Private Podcast: https://www.paigeswenson.com/medaling-in-menopause/ Connect with us: Instagram: @SheSellsHeSellsPodcast YouTube: She Sells He Sells Podcast

    54 min
  6. Jun 8

    210. Pretty Privilege Is Hindering the Workforce

    Pretty privilege is hindering the workforce. That is the idea Brian is selling in this episode of She Sells He Sells: Ideas Worth Buying. Krista is not buying it...at least not entirely. Brian's argument is this: attractive people have been quietly handed a pass in professional settings for a long time — in hiring rooms, in Hollywood, in politics — and the downstream effect is a generation of young people chasing aesthetics over competency. The kids aren't out there "skills maxing." They're looks maxing. And if we don't talk about it, we keep rewarding the wrong thing. Krista keeps poking holes, but somewhere between arguing about whether Kim Kardashian's failed bar exam proves or disproves the whole thing, and whether Brian himself might have been hired because he's tall, they find their way to something actually worth sitting with: the difference between genetic pretty privilege and intentional grooming. One you're born with, one you choose, and only one of them is actionable. The stakes, per Brian, are real. If we keep conflating attractiveness with competence, we get workforces full of people who look the part and can't do the job. If we keep producing content that tells the next generation the hill worth dying on is their face — we are in trouble. They don't fully agree by the end, but they get somewhere honest. IN THIS EPISODE [0:00] Welcome — the idea Brian is selling today [2:15] The Sell: pretty privilege is hindering the workforce [4:00] Defining pretty privilege — and whether Brian qualifies [6:30] Exhibit A: actors (Channing Tatum is Brian's one clean win) [10:00] Meryl Streep, Steve Buscemi, and the typecasting rebuttal [13:00] The Kardashian files: Kim, the bar exam, and a billion-dollar brand called Skims [19:30] The politics argument — what does "looks presidential" actually mean? [25:00] Gavin Newsom gets named. Brian feels vindicated. [28:00] The grooming vs. genetics question — and why it matters [32:00] The Stakes: looks maxing, skills maxing, and what we're teaching the next generation [36:00] Alex Earl — Krista's contribution to Brian's argument [40:00] The Solution: be cognizant of it. Know it's a thing. That's the start. [43:00] Where Krista lands — and what she will and won't concede KEY QUOTE "Pretty is a thing, but grooming is a choice. And one of those you can actually control." — Krista Demcher MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE Looks maxxing — the trend Brian uncovered in his research Alix Earl — TikTok creator and Gen Z beauty standard reference point Skims — Kim Kardashian's shapewear brand The California bar exam — Kim Kardashian has taken it more than once Connect with us: 📸 Instagram: @SheSellsHeSellsPodcast ▶️ YouTube: She Sells He Sells Podcast

    41 min
  7. Jun 1

    209. Creating Content Is The Best Form Of Self-Discovery

    Is creating content actually the best form of self-discovery, and can showing up messy and imperfect online change who you are? Krista says yes, and the case she makes is hard to argue with. In a world drowning in AI-generated copy and cookie-cutter content, the human voice has never been more valuable or more rare, and the only way to find that voice is to use it. Krista spent five years building ACORN into a coaching business with hundreds of clients, a team of coaches, and every marker of online business success. It looked right from the outside, but it never felt right from the inside. When she finally pulled back and started creating content with no offer to tie back to — shopping vlogs with her daughter, a Thanksgiving turkey hunt with her son, day-in-the-life videos where she called herself a painfully average entrepreneur — she started remembering who she actually was. The brand deals, speaking invitations, and book conversations that followed were never the point. Finding herself was. In this episode: why showing up publicly strips away perfectionism and people-pleasing in a way nothing else can, the five steps to start creating content that is authentically yours, how to define your vision instead of your goal, why women over 35 and 40 have a wide open market right now, and why the personal brand quiz is the best place to start.   IN THIS EPISODE [0:00] Welcome — Krista Demcher and the idea worth buying [2:00] The Sell: creating content is the best form of self-discovery [4:00] Why Krista pulled back from her coaching business — and what it cost her to admit it [7:00] Letting content just be content — no offer, no niche, no agenda [9:00] The real stuff: vlogs, day in the life, and the painfully average entrepreneur [11:00] What showing up messy actually teaches you about yourself [13:00] Step one: define your vision, not your goal [15:00] Step two: let your content stand alone [16:00] Step three: flex your voice muscle and get comfortable being seen [17:00] Step four: look at the insights without letting them run your life [18:00] Step five: commit to showing up and don't half-ass it [19:00] Why the human voice has never been more valuable — or more rare [21:00] Why women over 35 have a wide open market right now [23:00] What actually changed when Krista started showing up differently KEY QUOTE "That's what content creation gave me. Not followers. Not revenue. Me." — Krista Demcher MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE Personal Brand Quiz — take it at www.kristademcher.com/personal-brand-quiz to find out whether your foundation is your story, your values, your energy, or your approach Connect with us: Instagram: @SheSellsHeSellsPodcast YouTube: She Sells He Sells Podcast

    30 min
  8. May 25

    208. You Have To Become It Before You Receive It With Gabby Roberts

    Gabby Roberts is a former New York City Rockette, content creator, and host of the Kicking It Real podcast. Her argument is this: you cannot wait until the opportunity arrives to start becoming the person who deserves it. The preparation, the identity, the habits — those have to come first. Not because of manifesting or vision boards, but because when you are truly becoming the thing you want, you start to see opportunities that were always there. You start to move differently, and the world responds to that. To make her case, Gabby takes us back to a childhood bedroom in Chicago during COVID — a breakup, a quarantine, and a stranger's Instagram story that showed her a life she wanted badly enough to go get. Less than two years later, she was a Radio City Rockette. But this is not just a dance story. Gabby talks about the four-year gap between college graduation and booking the job — the rejection letters, the half-committed phase, the boyfriend who redirected her toward practicality, and the moment she finally got so sick of her own excuses that the fear of not going became bigger than the fear of going. She talks about what it looks like to actually close the gap between who you are and who you need to be — and why the smallest daily habit, done consistently, is the thing that builds the trust that builds the confidence. If you have ever had a dream that felt both true and out of reach at the same time, this one is for you. IN THIS EPISODE [0:00] Welcome — Gabby Roberts and the idea worth buying [2:30] The Sell: you have to become it before you receive it [5:00] The Story: a childhood bedroom, a breakup, COVID, and one Instagram story [10:00] Moving to New York in May 2021 — and why the fear of not going was bigger [14:00] What Gabby's parents converting their living room into a dance studio says about belief [17:00] The reticular activating system — why you start seeing what you're becoming [21:00] The five-minute daily kicking habit and what it actually builds [26:00] The April 2022 audition — making it to the end for the first time [31:00] Getting the call — in a parking lot, at a friend's wedding, crying [36:00] What imposter syndrome looks like after you've already booked the dream [40:00] The Solution: reverse-engineer the habits of the person you want to become [44:00] The Stakes: what half-commitment actually costs you [48:00] Keeping your word to yourself as the highest form of self-love [52:00] Why leaving after three seasons was the same muscle as going in the first place [56:00] The close: do you buy it? KEY QUOTE "It was more terrifying not to go. I had been half-committed for so long that it took away the fear. The hunger for what was possible had to outweigh the comfort of staying." — Gabby Roberts MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE The reticular activating system — why you see what you're focused on The becoming board — a vision board built around habits, not just outcomes Kicking It Real — Gabby's podcast for artists and performers Connect with Gabby: 📸 Instagram & TikTok: @potentiallyGabby 🎙️ Podcast: @kickingitrealpod Connect with us: 📸 Instagram: @SheSellsHeSellsPodcast ▶️ YouTube: She Sells He Sells Podcast

    1h 14m

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Most people think selling is something you do at work, but Krista and Brian Demcher have spent nearly three decades proving otherwise - in corporate sales rooms, entrepreneurial ventures, and over 25 years of marriage and raising a family, which is honestly where the real persuasion happens. Every week on this sales and communication podcast, they bring one bold idea worth buying and walk you through the story behind it, the case for it, and the pushback against it - so by the end, you don't just know where you stand, you understand exactly how you got there. Think of it as a persuasion and storytelling masterclass disguised as a really good conversation. Because a good idea is only as good as your ability to sell it! Sales skills are life skills...and this show is where you learn them. New episodes every Monday.

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