The ABMP Podcast | Speaking With the Massage & Bodywork Profession

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The ABMP Podcast | Speaking With the Massage & Bodywork Profession

Our goal is to speak with luminaries and experts in and around massage and bodywork to help expound upon and better understand our profession and our practices.

  1. 1 DAY AGO

    Client Centeredness with Cindy Williams

    Being client centered means we always make choices and act with the best interests and well-being of our clients. In this episode of The ABMP Podcast, Cindy Williams covers a variety of examples of client centeredness as a reminder of how we can bring this core ethical principle into our professional practices.   Host Bio:           After earning a degree in Sociology from Indiana University in 1997, Cindy Williams stumbled upon her calling as a massage therapist and bodyworker.  She completed massage school in Boulder, CO in 2000 and has been actively involved in the profession since that time.  For the last 24 years, Cindy has been in private practice, as well as serving in the education realm as an instructor, administrator, curriculum developer, consultant, and mentor.  She currently works as an author and freelance educational content writer while continuing to support individuals on their healing journeys through bodywork, meditation, and other mindfulness practices.  To learn more, visit her website at www.imaginehealthforyou.com.                  About our Sponsors:   Anatomy Trains: www.anatomytrains.com    MassageBook: www.massagebook.com   Anatomy Trains is a global leader in online anatomy education and also provides in-classroom certification programs for structural integration in the US, Canada, Australia, Europe, Japan, and China, as well as fresh-tissue cadaver dissection labs and weekend courses. The work of Anatomy Trains originated with founder Tom Myers, who mapped the human body into 13 myofascial meridians in his original book, currently in its fourth edition and translated into 12 languages. The principles of Anatomy Trains are used by osteopaths, physical therapists, bodyworkers, massage therapists, personal trainers, yoga, Pilates, Gyrotonics, and other body-minded manual therapists and movement professionals. Anatomy Trains inspires these practitioners to work with holistic anatomy in treating system-wide patterns to provide improved client outcomes in terms of structure and function.                      Website: anatomytrains.com                        Email: info@anatomytrains.com             Facebook: facebook.com/AnatomyTrains                       Instagram: www.instagram.com/anatomytrainsofficial   YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2g6TOEFrX4b-CigknssKHA     Save time and reduce stress with MassageBook. It’s not just software—it’s a comprehensive solution that handles online scheduling, payment processing, and marketing campaigns, making it easier for you to provide your clients with top-notch care. Enjoy free, unlimited access for 30 days and save on your monthly subscription with your exclusive ABMP member discount.   Special Offer: Right now, MassageBook is offering listeners $50 off when they sign up with coupon code ABMP50. Start your free 30-day trial today and transform your practice with tools designed to increase bookings and streamline client management.   Connect with MassageBook: Visit their website: MassageBook Follow MassageBook on Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn

    14 min

  2. NOV 12

    Lessons Learned from Client Experiences with Kristin Coverly

    Join Kristin Coverly as she asks massage therapy and bodywork experts Allison Denney and Dr. Joe Muscolino “What lesson did you learn from a memorable client experience?” and “How do you recognize and celebrate your victories?” Hear their responses on this episode of The ABMP Podcast and gain inspiration you can immediately apply to your personal and professional lives!   Host Bio:           Kristin Coverly, LMT is a massage therapist, educator, and the director of professional education at ABMP. She loves creating continuing education courses, events, and resources to support massage therapists and bodyworkers as they enhance their lives and practices. Contact her at ce@abmp.com.   Allison Denney is a certified massage therapist and certified YouTuber. You can find her massage tutorials at YouTube.com/RebelMassage. She is also passionate about creating products that are kind, simple, and productive for therapists to use in their practices. Her products, along with access to her blog and CE opportunities, can be found at rebelmassage.com.         Dr. Joe Muscolino has been a manual and movement therapy educator for more than 30 years. He is the author of eight books and has authored more than 70 articles. He teaches continuing education workshops and has a digital video streaming subscription service called Digital COMT for manual and movement therapists. For more information, visit www.learnmuscles.com         Resources:    ABMP Education Center: https://www.abmp.com/learn/   About our Sponsors:   Anatomy Trains: www.anatomytrains.com    MassageBook: www.massagebook.com   Anatomy Trains is a global leader in online anatomy education and also provides in-classroom certification programs for structural integration in the US, Canada, Australia, Europe, Japan, and China, as well as fresh-tissue cadaver dissection labs and weekend courses. The work of Anatomy Trains originated with founder Tom Myers, who mapped the human body into 13 myofascial meridians in his original book, currently in its fourth edition and translated into 12 languages. The principles of Anatomy Trains are used by osteopaths, physical therapists, bodyworkers, massage therapists, personal trainers, yoga, Pilates, Gyrotonics, and other body-minded manual therapists and movement professionals. Anatomy Trains inspires these practitioners to work with holistic anatomy in treating system-wide patterns to provide improved client outcomes in terms of structure and function.                      Website: anatomytrains.com                        Email: info@anatomytrains.com             Facebook: facebook.com/AnatomyTrains                       Instagram: www.instagram.com/anatomytrainsofficial   YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2g6TOEFrX4b-CigknssKHA     Save time and reduce stress with MassageBook. It’s not just software—it’s a comprehensive solution that handles online scheduling, payment processing, and marketing campaigns, making it easier for you to provide your clients with top-notch care. Enjoy free, unlimited access for 30 days and save on your monthly subscription with your exclusive ABMP member discount.   Special Offer: Right now, MassageBook is offering listeners $50 off when they sign up with coupon code ABMP50. Start your free 30-day trial today and transform your practice with tools designed to increase bookings and streamline client management.   Connect with MassageBook: Visit their website: MassageBook Follow MassageBook on Facebook, Instagram, LinkedIn

    26 min

  3. NOV 8

    Making Decisions for 2025: “Business or Pressure” with Allissa Haines

    The new year is a great time to make changes in your massage business. Host Allissa Haines works through the variables and options for change to make your business better, with less pressure.   Host: Allissa Haines is a practicing massage therapist and business owner and columnist for Massage & Bodywork magazine. You can find her building a community of massage therapists at deepbreathdigital.com/community.   Resources: https://www.massageandbodyworkdigital.com/i/969285-may-june-2018/86   Author links:   Website: www.deepbreathdigital.com/community   Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/deepbreathcommunity/   Sponsors:   Jojoba: www.jojobacompany.com   HobaCare Jojoba is a premium quality, 100% pure jojoba oil that is highly beneficial for massage therapists. As a single-ingredient product, it aligns perfectly with holistic practices, providing an all-natural, chemical-free massage medium option. Jojoba oil closely resembles human sebum, which allows it to absorb easily and deeply into the skin, delivering a non-greasy, moisturizing experience that doesn't clog pores or cause allergic reactions. This unique property makes it an excellent medium for massage, enhancing tactile contact without leaving an oily residue. HobaCare Jojoba is also shelf stable and will not stain natural fiber sheets. By choosing HobaCare Jojoba, massage therapists can enhance their practice, offering clients a superior, skin-friendly experience that promotes both skin health and overall well-being. Website: www.hobacare.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jojobacompany Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jojobacompany

    11 min

  4. NOV 5

    Pyoderma Gangrenosum: “I Have a Client Who . . .” Pathology Conversations with Ruth Werner

    A client has a history of a very unusual and somewhat alarming condition: pyoderma gangrenosum. Can massage therapy be applied in this situation? Probably yes, but in specific circumstances. Listen to this episode of “I Have a Client Who . . .” to learn more and to hear host Ruth Werner get on one of her favorite soapboxes: the language of massage therapy.   Host Bio:                    Ruth Werner is a former massage therapist, a writer, and an NCBTMB-approved continuing education provider. She wrote A Massage Therapist’s Guide to Pathology, now in its seventh edition, which is used in massage schools worldwide. Werner is also a long-time Massage & Bodywork columnist, most notably of the Pathology Perspectives column. Werner is also ABMP’s partner on Pocket Pathology, a web-based app and quick reference program that puts key information for nearly 200 common pathologies at your fingertips. Werner’s books are available at www.booksofdiscovery.com. And more information about her is available at www.ruthwerner.com.                                   Resources:    Pocket Pathology: https://www.abmp.com/abmp-pocket-pathology-app   Brooklyn, T., Dunnill, G. and Probert, C. (2006) ‘Diagnosis and treatment of pyoderma gangrenosum’, BMJ : British Medical Journal, 333(7560), p. 181. Available at: https://doi.org/10.1136/bmj.333.7560.181.   Mohd, A.B. et al. (2022) ‘COVID-19 Vaccine: A Possible Trigger for Pyoderma Gangrenosum’, Cureus, 14(5), p. e25295. Available at: https://doi.org/10.7759/cureus.25295.   Pyoderma gangrenosum (no date) Autoimmune Association. Available at: https://autoimmune.org/disease-information/pyoderma-gangrenosum/ (Accessed: 23 October 2024).   Pyoderma Gangrenosum - Symptoms, Causes, Treatment | NORD (no date). Available at: https://rarediseases.org/rare-diseases/pyoderma-gangrenosum/ (Accessed: 23 October 2024).   Schmieder, S.J. and Krishnamurthy, K. (2024) ‘Pyoderma Gangrenosum’, in StatPearls. Treasure Island (FL): StatPearls Publishing. Available at: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK482223/ (Accessed: 24 October 2024).   Zou, H. and Daveluy, S. (2023) ‘Pyoderma gangrenosum after COVID-19 infection and vaccination’, Clinics in Dermatology, 41(1), pp. 129–131. Available at: https://doi.org/10.1016/j.clindermatol.2022.11.003.     About our Sponsors:   Anatomy Trains: www.anatomytrains.com      MassageBook: www.massagebook.com

    17 min

  5. OCT 29

    TMJ: Alrighty Then: “The Rebel MT” with Allison Denney

    The temporomandibular joint may be infamous for its disorder, but it is its complexity that lends us the ability to chew, grind, talk, and even to elevate a bland statement to an iconic moment of genius. In this episode of The Rebel MT, Allison takes a closer look at the incredible jaw, reflects on how understanding it better will boost our confidence with our work here, and hopes that we can explore how to talk more like Jim Carrey.   Host:   Contact Allison Denney: rebelmt@abmp.com             Allison’s website: www.rebelmassage.com                      Allison Denney is a certified massage therapist and certified YouTuber. You can find her massage tutorials at YouTube.com/RebelMassage. She is also passionate about creating products that are kind, simple, and productive for therapists to use in their practices. Her products, along with access to her blog and CE opportunities, can be found at rebelmassage.com.             Sponsors:   Rebel Massage Therapist: http://www.rebelmassage.com   Anatomy Trains: www.anatomytrains.com    Elements Massage: www.elementsmassage.com/abmp   MassageBook: www.massagebook.com   The American Massage Conference: www.massagetherapymedia.com/conferences

    15 min

  6. OCT 25

    How to Manage Demand with Massage Memberships: “Business or Pressure” with Allissa Haines

    It’s wonderful to have loyal clients, but it can be tough balancing your loyal clients with other clients. Business or Pressure host Allissa Haines talks through ways to manage a sustainable schedule while keeping your most loyal clients well-served. Resources: https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/the-wirecutter-show-podcast/ How to better serve your Neurodovergent clients: https://www.massageandbodyworkdigital.com/i/1496639-may-june-2023/56?token=OWE3NjMwM2Q2YzI5NDQxMGQwZjk0OTk0MGRmN2ZkN2NkMTkzZmZiNw%3D%3D   Communication with Neurodivergent Clients: https://www.abmp.com/updates/blog-posts/communication-neurodivergent-clients   Host: Allissa Haines is a practicing massage therapist and business owner and columnist for Massage & Bodywork magazine. You can find her building a community of massage therapists at deepbreathdigital.com/community.   Author links:   Website: www.deepbreathdigital.com/community   Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/deepbreathcommunity/   Sponsors:   Jojoba: www.jojobacompany.com   HobaCare Jojoba is a premium quality, 100% pure jojoba oil that is highly beneficial for massage therapists. As a single-ingredient product, it aligns perfectly with holistic practices, providing an all-natural, chemical-free massage medium option. Jojoba oil closely resembles human sebum, which allows it to absorb easily and deeply into the skin, delivering a non-greasy, moisturizing experience that doesn't clog pores or cause allergic reactions. This unique property makes it an excellent medium for massage, enhancing tactile contact without leaving an oily residue. HobaCare Jojoba is also shelf stable and will not stain natural fiber sheets. By choosing HobaCare Jojoba, massage therapists can enhance their practice, offering clients a superior, skin-friendly experience that promotes both skin health and overall well-being. Website: www.hobacare.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jojobacompany Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jojobacompany

    11 min

  7. OCT 15

    Getting Off the Clock with Whitney Lowe

    In this episode of The ABMP Podcast, host Whitney Lowe dives into the challenges of measuring educational outcomes in massage therapy training programs. He explores why simply tracking clock hours doesn’t equate to quality education and highlights the advantages of a competency-based learning approach. Tune in to learn how this shift can lead to better training outcomes and more skilled massage therapists.   Host:   Whitney Lowe is a known authority in the field of massage therapy, with a 36-year career marked by clinical work, research, publications, and teaching in advanced massage principles. He specializes in treating pain and injuries using massage and is one of the pioneers of the orthopedic massage approach. Lowe's Orthopedic Massage Program stands out in its engaging and accessible design and comprehensive curriculum. Students, whether learning online or in-person, praise Lowe for his approachable style and personalized training.   Sponsors:   Anatomy Trains: www.anatomytrains.com    Elements Massage: www.elementsmassage.com/abmp   MassageBook: www.massagebook.com   The American Massage Conference: www.massagetherapymedia.com/conferences

    29 min

  8. OCT 11

    Clear Communication in Your Massage Business: “Business or Pressure” with Allissa Haines

    Poor communication habits can wreck your reputation. Business or Pressure host Allissa Haines works through a listener’s recent frustrations about scheduling an appointment and lays out the steps for better communication with potential clients. Host: Allissa Haines is a practicing massage therapist and business owner and columnist for Massage & Bodywork magazine. You can find her building a community of massage therapists at deepbreathdigital.com/community.   Author links:   Website: www.deepbreathdigital.com/community   Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/deepbreathcommunity/   Sponsors:   Jojoba: www.jojobacompany.com   HobaCare Jojoba is a premium quality, 100% pure jojoba oil that is highly beneficial for massage therapists. As a single-ingredient product, it aligns perfectly with holistic practices, providing an all-natural, chemical-free massage medium option. Jojoba oil closely resembles human sebum, which allows it to absorb easily and deeply into the skin, delivering a non-greasy, moisturizing experience that doesn't clog pores or cause allergic reactions. This unique property makes it an excellent medium for massage, enhancing tactile contact without leaving an oily residue. HobaCare Jojoba is also shelf stable and will not stain natural fiber sheets. By choosing HobaCare Jojoba, massage therapists can enhance their practice, offering clients a superior, skin-friendly experience that promotes both skin health and overall well-being. Website: www.hobacare.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jojobacompany Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jojobacompany

    10 min
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