The Covert Code

Anna Covert

Welcome to The Covert Code Podcast, hosted by Forbes best-selling author Anna Covert, where we decode the strategies that drive digital success. Each episode tackles the essential questions: How do you thrive in today’s digital landscape? Are you meeting your customers’ needs? Does your platform deliver, and are your tech choices aligned with your goals? And do your digital ads truly make an impact? Join Anna as she interviews industry experts and innovators, sharing actionable insights and the latest trends. Perfect for business owners, marketers, and tech enthusiasts, The Covert Code Podcast is your guide to building a stronger brand and mastering the digital world.

  1. Why Human Experiences Will Thrive in an AI World | The Covert Code | EP 118

    22h ago

    Why Human Experiences Will Thrive in an AI World | The Covert Code | EP 118

    This week on The Covert Code Podcast, the topic is: Why Human Experiences Will Thrive in an AI World My special guest is Charlene Rose, entrepreneur, actor, hand model, choreographer, Airbnb host, and founder of Living Room to Ballroom and Old Hollywood Lodge. As artificial intelligence continues transforming industries around the world, many people are asking what kinds of businesses, careers, and income streams will still thrive. Charlene believes the answer is rooted in human connection. From helping women gain confidence through dance to creating a memorable Old Hollywood-inspired Airbnb experience, Charlene has built businesses around creativity, passion, performance, and real-world connection — the kinds of things technology cannot easily replace. In this episode, Anna and Charlene discuss entrepreneurship, dance, Airbnb hosting, creativity, AI, passion-led business, and why authentic human experiences may become more valuable than ever. WHAT YOU'LL LEARN: • Why human connection matters more in the age of AI • How to identify business opportunities tied to your passion • Why experiences often outperform generic products • How Charlene built Living Room to Ballroom • The story behind Old Hollywood Lodge • Why AI may increase demand for real-world experiences • How to build a loyal niche audience • The role intuition plays in entrepreneurship • Why commitment still matters in a world of instant content • How to create income streams AI cannot easily replace CONNECT WITH CHARLENE ROSE Charlene Rose Website: https://charlenerose.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/charleneroseofficial/ Living Room to Ballroom Website: https://livingroomtoballroom.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/livingroomtoballroom/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/livingroomtoballroom/ Old Hollywood Lodge Website: https://oldhollywoodlodge.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/oldhollywoodlodge/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/oldhollywoodlodge/ GET THE BOOK: The Covert Code – Mastering the Art of Digital Marketing Amazon: https://rb.gy/wrht8 Barnes & Noble: https://rb.gy/vwev0a Target: https://rb.gy/jhpxri LISTEN ON ALL PLATFORMS: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0UcnL4g4J2DckqMpZg4DdB Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-covert-code/id1733326615 Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/d15bb709-a4df-43bb-9284-9e479c8574a7/the-covert-code iHeart Radio: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-the-covert-code-269144900/ YouTube Music: https://music.youtube.com/channel/UCSU2Anqu1_yzb_D6IFd7i_Q FOLLOW THE COVERT CODE: Website: https://thecovertcode.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/covertcodeofficial Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thecovertcode LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/covert-code-official/ ABOUT HOST ANNA COVERT Anna Covert is the host of The Covert Code Podcast and author of The Covert Code – Mastering the Art of Digital Marketing and The Solar Coaster. With over two decades of experience in digital marketing and business strategy, Anna has worked with top-tier companies like Microsoft, Apple, and IBM and leads Covert Communication, Hawaii's largest digital agency. ANNA'S WEBSITES: The Covert Code: https://thecovertcode.com/ Anna Covert: https://annacovert.com/ Covert Communication: https://covertcommunication.com/ Reactium: https://reactium.io/ Affiliate Disclosure: Some links included may be affiliate links. If you choose to make a purchase through them, we may earn a commission at no additional cost to you.

    38 min
  2. Founder-Led Selling: Why Faceless Brands Are Losing | The Covert Code | EP 117

    Jun 12

    Founder-Led Selling: Why Faceless Brands Are Losing | The Covert Code | EP 117

    This week on The Covert Code Podcast, the topic is: Founder-Led Selling: Why Faceless Brands Are Losing My special guest is Dave Gulas, entrepreneur, podcast host, and co-founder of EZDC 3PL. With over 20 years of experience in sales and marketing leadership, Dave believes that today's founders can no longer hide behind their company name. Customers want to know who they're buying from, what they stand for, and why they do what they do. In this episode, we discuss personal branding, content creation, podcasting, AI, authenticity, founder visibility, and why building authority around yourself may be one of the most important investments you make in your business. WHAT YOU'LL LEARN: • Why founder-led selling is becoming essential • Why customers buy from people, not logos • The biggest misconceptions about personal branding • How podcasting can accelerate authority and trust • Why authenticity beats perfection every time • How AI can help founders become better communicators • Why consistency matters more than viral content • How to build visibility without feeling salesy • Practical first steps to establish your personal brand • Why faceless companies are losing trust in the AI era CONNECT WITH DAVE GULAS Website: https://davegulas.com EZDC 3PL: https://ezdc3pl.com Beyond Fulfillment Podcast: https://davegulas.com/podcast LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dave-gulas/ 📖 GET THE BOOK: The Covert Code – Mastering the Art of Digital Marketing Amazon: https://rb.gy/wrht8 Barnes & Noble: https://rb.gy/vwev0a Target: https://rb.gy/jhpxri 🎧 LISTEN ON ALL PLATFORMS: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0UcnL4g4J2DckqMpZg4DdB Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-covert-code/id1733326615 Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/d15bb709-a4df-43bb-9284-9e479c8574a7/the-covert-code iHeart Radio: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-the-covert-code-269144900/ YouTube Music: https://music.youtube.com/channel/UCSU2Anqu1_yzb_D6IFd7i_Q 🌐 FOLLOW THE COVERT CODE Website: https://thecovertcode.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/covertcodeofficial Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thecovertcode LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/covert-code-official/ 📚 ABOUT HOST ANNA COVERT Anna Covert is the host of The Covert Code Podcast and author of The Covert Code – Mastering the Art of Digital Marketing and The Solar Coaster. With over two decades of experience in digital marketing and business strategy, Anna has worked with top-tier companies like Microsoft, Apple, and IBM and leads Covert Communication, Hawaii's largest digital agency. ANNA'S WEBSITES The Covert Code: https://thecovertcode.com/ Anna Covert: https://annacovert.com/ Covert Communication: https://covertcommunication.com/ Reactium: https://reactium.io/ Affiliate Disclosure: Some links included may be affiliate links. If you choose to make a purchase through them, we may earn a commission at no additional cost to you.

    26 min
  3. Why Small Businesses Hit Growth Ceilings w/ Rob Aquino | The Covert Code | EP 116

    Jun 7

    Why Small Businesses Hit Growth Ceilings w/ Rob Aquino | The Covert Code | EP 116

    🎙️ This week on The Covert Code Podcast, the topic is: Why Small Businesses Hit Growth Ceilings and How to Break Through Them My special guest is Rob Aquino, CEO of JBS Corp and Entrepreneur Books, author of The Small Business Money Game: Hidden Strategies That Turn Survival into Scale. Rob comes from a deep background in finance, entrepreneurship, wealth management, and business strategy. Having worked with thousands of entrepreneurs, Rob has developed what he calls the Breakpoint Framework, a system designed to help business owners understand why growth stalls, how to identify bottlenecks, and how to scale intentionally. In this episode, Anna and Rob discuss entrepreneurship, money psychology, AI, banking, Monopoly, scaling challenges, leadership evolution, and the mindset shifts required to build a sustainable business. 🔍 WHAT YOU’LL LEARN: • Why most small businesses hit growth ceilings • The entrepreneurial paradox of needing resources to get resources • The 7 Breakpoints businesses encounter on the road to $25M • Why many founders struggle with hiring and delegation • How your relationship with money impacts your success • Why Monopoly may secretly teach business strategy • How AI is reshaping entrepreneurship and small business growth • Why community banks often understand entrepreneurs better • Lessons Rob learned helping businesses survive COVID • The importance of understanding financial language 📖 READY TO ELEVATE YOUR AUTHORITY? Click below for your FREE digital copy of The Authority Advantage, available exclusively for Covert Code listeners: https://books.forbes.com/free-resources/the-authority-advantage/?rpaname=annacovert 📘 PRE-ORDER ROB'S BOOK The Small Business Money Game: Hidden Strategies That Turn Survival into Scale https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Small-Business-Money-Game/Robinson-Aquino/9798897010660 ✨ CONNECT WITH ROB AQUINO LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/robinson-aquino-b5a47593/ 📖 GET THE BOOK: The Covert Code – Mastering the Art of Digital Marketing Amazon: https://rb.gy/wrht8 Barnes & Noble: https://rb.gy/vwev0a Target: https://rb.gy/jhpxri 🎧 LISTEN ON ALL PLATFORMS: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0UcnL4g4J2DckqMpZg4DdB?si=NKAFJcRMSdOJlP5iebBxoA&nd=1&dlsi=50d6d5c5753a499b Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-covert-code/id1733326615 Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/d15bb709-a4df-43bb-9284-9e479c8574a7/the-covert-code iHeart Radio: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-the-covert-code-269144900/ YouTube Music: https://music.youtube.com/channel/UCSU2Anqu1_yzb_D6IFd7i_Q 🌐 FOLLOW THE COVERT CODE: Website: https://thecovertcode.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/covertcodeofficial Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thecovertcode LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/covert-code-official/ 📚 ABOUT HOST ANNA COVERT: Anna Covert is the host of The Covert Code Podcast and author of The Covert Code – Mastering the Art of Digital Marketing and The Solar Coaster. With over two decades of experience in digital marketing and business strategy, Anna has worked with top-tier companies like Microsoft, Apple, and IBM and leads Covert Communication, Hawaii's largest digital agency. ANNA'S WEBSITES: The Covert Code: https://thecovertcode.com/ Anna Covert: https://annacovert.com/ Covert Communication: https://covertcommunication.com/ Reactium: https://reactium.io/ ⚠️ Affiliate Disclosure: Some links included may be affiliate links. If you choose to make a purchase through them, we may earn a commission at no additional cost to you.

    49 min
  4. Personalized Travel Powered by AI with Lou Chatta | The Covert Code | EP 115

    May 29

    Personalized Travel Powered by AI with Lou Chatta | The Covert Code | EP 115

    🎙️ This week on The Covert Code Podcast, the topic is: The AI Experience Economy My special guest is Lou Chatta, founder of Pin Tours, an AI-powered platform transforming how people experience travel, tours, transportation, events, and local discovery. Lou is building an orchestration layer behind the experience economy — combining travel, transportation, attractions, restaurants, events, and local knowledge into personalized journeys powered by AI. From partnerships with Uber, Yelp, GetYourGuide, and FIFA World Cup host cities, Pin Tours is helping redefine what travelers do beyond the stadium, beyond the hotel, and beyond the generic itinerary. In this episode, Anna and Lou discuss how AI is changing guided experiences, how local guides can turn their knowledge into income, and why personalization is the future of travel. 🔍 WHAT YOU’LL LEARN: • What the AI Experience Economy means • How Pin Tours personalizes travel in real time • Why guided experiences have traditionally been expensive and hard to scale • How AI can digitize the knowledge of local tour guides • How travelers can customize experiences by interest, budget, time, language, and accessibility • How Pin Tours is working with partners like Uber, Yelp, and GetYourGuide • Why FIFA World Cup host cities are a major opportunity for experience-based tourism • How local guides and drivers can create new income streams • How AI can improve safety, trust, and personalization in global travel • Why the future of tourism is more personal, immersive, and intelligent 📖 GET THE BOOK: The Covert Code – Mastering the Art of Digital Marketing Amazon: https://rb.gy/wrht8 Barnes & Noble: https://rb.gy/vwev0a Target: https://rb.gy/jhpxri ✨ CONNECT WITH LOU CHATTA Pin Tours: https://pintours.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lou-chatta-539a3956/ 🎧 LISTEN ON ALL PLATFORMS: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0UcnL4g4J2DckqMpZg4DdB?si=NKAFJcRMSdOJlP5iebBxoA&nd=1&dlsi=50d6d5c5753a499b Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-covert-code/id1733326615 Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/d15bb709-a4df-43bb-9284-9e479c8574a7/the-covert-code iHeart Radio: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-the-covert-code-269144900/ YouTube Music: https://music.youtube.com/channel/UCSU2Anqu1_yzb_D6IFd7i_Q 🌐 FOLLOW THE COVERT CODE: Website: https://thecovertcode.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/covertcodeofficial Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thecovertcode LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/covert-code-official/ 📚 ABOUT HOST ANNA COVERT: Anna Covert is the host of The Covert Code Podcast and author of The Covert Code – Mastering the Art of Digital Marketing and The Solar Coaster. With over two decades of experience in digital marketing and business strategy, Anna has worked with top-tier companies like Microsoft, Apple, and IBM, and leads Covert Communication, Hawaii's largest digital agency. ANNA'S WEBSITES: The Covert Code: https://thecovertcode.com/ Anna Covert: https://annacovert.com/ Covert Communication: https://covertcommunication.com/ Reactium: https://reactium.io/ ⚠️ Affiliate Disclosure: Some links included may be affiliate links, which means we may earn a commission if you choose to make a purchase through them at no additional cost to you.

    31 min
  5. Why Curiosity Is the Ultimate Competitive Advantage | The Covert Code | EP 114

    May 22

    Why Curiosity Is the Ultimate Competitive Advantage | The Covert Code | EP 114

    🎙️ This week on The Covert Code Podcast, the topic is: How Curiosity Is the Secret Sauce to Success My special guest is Rodney Adkins — former Senior Vice President at IBM, chairman of Avnet, engineer, philanthropist, and author of the Forbes bestselling book *Curiosity Redefines the Limits*. After spending 33 years helping shape some of the world’s most important technology innovations at IBM, Rodney joins Anna Covert to discuss curiosity, leadership, lifelong learning, artificial intelligence, innovation, and how humans can thrive during one of the fastest technological shifts in history. This conversation dives deep into the future of AI, critical thinking, trust, creativity, career transformation, and why curiosity may be the single greatest competitive advantage in the modern world. 🔍 WHAT YOU’LL LEARN: • Why curiosity fuels innovation and leadership • The “Curiosity Advantage” and how to develop it • How AI is changing the future of work • Why lifelong learning matters more than ever • Rodney’s perspective on responsible AI • The dangers of losing critical thinking skills • How AI can become a powerful creative partner • Why emotional intelligence still matters • How to future-proof your career in the age of AI • Why asking better questions is the real superpower 📖 GET THE BOOK: The Covert Code – Mastering the Art of Digital Marketing Amazon: https://rb.gy/wrht8 Barnes & Noble: https://rb.gy/vwev0a Target: https://rb.gy/jhpxri ✨ CONNECT WITH RODNEY ADKINS LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rodneyadkins/ 🎧 LISTEN ON ALL PLATFORMS: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0UcnL4g4J2DckqMpZg4DdB?si=NKAFJcRMSdOJlP5iebBxoA&nd=1&dlsi=50d6d5c5753a499b Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-covert-code/id1733326615 Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/d15bb709-a4df-43bb-9284-9e479c8574a7/the-covert-code iHeart Radio: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-the-covert-code-269144900/ YouTube Music: https://music.youtube.com/channel/UCSU2Anqu1_yzb_D6IFd7i_Q 🌐 FOLLOW THE COVERT CODE: Website: https://thecovertcode.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/covertcodeofficial Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thecovertcode LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/covert-code-official/ 📚 ABOUT HOST ANNA COVERT: Anna Covert is the host of The Covert Code Podcast and author of *The Covert Code – Mastering the Art of Digital Marketing* and *The Solar Coaster*. With over two decades of experience in digital marketing and business strategy, Anna has worked with top-tier companies like Microsoft, Apple, and IBM, and leads Covert Communication, Hawaii's largest digital agency. ANNA'S WEBSITES: The Covert Code: https://thecovertcode.com/ Anna Covert: https://annacovert.com/ Covert Communication: https://covertcommunication.com/ Reactium: https://reactium.io/ ⚠️ Affiliate Disclosure: Some links included may be affiliate links, which means we may earn a commission if you choose to make a purchase through them at no additional cost to you.

    48 min
  6. Reinvention, Leadership & The Champagne CEO with Terri Eagle | Covert Code | EP 113

    May 15

    Reinvention, Leadership & The Champagne CEO with Terri Eagle | Covert Code | EP 113

    🎙️ This week on The Covert Code Podcast, the topic is: Brand Reinvention And my special guest is Terri Eagle — Forbes bestselling author of *The Champagne CEO*, sought-after speaker, and founder of Terri Eagle Group, a consulting and business advisory firm helping organizations scale, transform, and navigate major transitions. In this episode, Anna and Terri discuss leadership, reinvention, mentorship, networking, entrepreneurship, thought leadership, and what modern CEOs need to do to stay relevant in today’s evolving business landscape. Terri shares her incredible journey through iconic brands like L’Oréal, Montblanc, David Yurman, Schumacher, and Morilee before launching her own consulting business and bestselling book. 🔍 WHAT YOU’LL LEARN: • Why reinvention is essential in business and life • How mentorship shaped Terri’s career • The importance of communication and “teamship” • Why networking still matters in a digital world • What CEOs need to do to remain relevant today • The transition from executive leadership to entrepreneurship • How to embrace change and uncertainty • Why thought leadership and visibility matter more than ever • The power of simply “just asking” for opportunities 📖 GET THE BOOK: The Covert Code – Mastering the Art of Digital Marketing Amazon: https://rb.gy/wrht8 Barnes & Noble: https://rb.gy/vwev0a Target: https://rb.gy/jhpxri ✨ CONNECT WITH TERRI EAGLE Website: https://terrieaglegroup.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/terrieagle/ 🎧 LISTEN ON ALL PLATFORMS: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0UcnL4g4J2DckqMpZg4DdB?si=NKAFJcRMSdOJlP5iebBxoA&nd=1&dlsi=50d6d5c5753a499b Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-covert-code/id1733326615 Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/d15bb709-a4df-43bb-9284-9e479c8574a7/the-covert-code iHeart Radio: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-the-covert-code-269144900/ YouTube Music: https://music.youtube.com/channel/UCSU2Anqu1_yzb_D6IFd7i_Q 🌐 FOLLOW THE COVERT CODE: Website: https://thecovertcode.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/covertcodeofficial Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thecovertcode LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/covert-code-official/ 📚 ABOUT HOST ANNA COVERT: Anna Covert is the host of The Covert Code Podcast and author of *The Covert Code – Mastering the Art of Digital Marketing* and *The Solar Coaster*. With over two decades of experience in digital marketing and business strategy, Anna has worked with top-tier companies like Microsoft, Apple, and IBM, and leads Covert Communication, Hawaii's largest digital agency. ANNA'S WEBSITES: The Covert Code: https://thecovertcode.com/ Anna Covert: https://annacovert.com/ Covert Communication: https://covertcommunication.com/ Reactium: https://reactium.io/ ⚠️ Affiliate Disclosure: Some links included may be affiliate links, which means we may earn a commission if you choose to make a purchase through them at no additional cost to you.

    48 min
  7. Designing Your Authority Journey | Forbes Books | Covert Code | EP 4

    May 8 ·  Bonus

    Designing Your Authority Journey | Forbes Books | Covert Code | EP 4

    -Ready to elevate your authority? Click the URL for a free digital copy of The Authority Advantage, available now for Covert Code listeners: https://books.forbes.com/free-resources/the-authority-advantage/?rpaname=annacovert In this final episode of Authority as a Growth Strategy, a Forbes Books series presented by The Covert Code, Anna Covert sits down with Terry Stanton, Director of Integrated Strategy at Forbes Books, to discuss how real authority is designed — not stumbled upon. If the Year of Authority 2026 is about separation through credibility, this conversation is the blueprint. Terry shares: - Why authority must start with long-term impact - How to reverse engineer your visibility strategy - The difference between attention and trust - Why mission clarity filters every strategic decision - How to define success before writing a book - Why vulnerability strengthens credibility - The importance of niche positioning - When a book is the right step — and when it isn’t One of the most powerful takeaways? Authority is not about being louder. It’s about being trusted. Terry’s background spans public radio, broadcast journalism, SEO, e-commerce, public relations, and integrated strategy. She has worked with iconic brands including Ashley Home Store, Nabisco, and AT&T — and now helps executives reverse engineer authority journeys that align with purpose. This episode closes the Forbes Books partnership series with one core truth: - Authority is intentional. - Clarity drives strategy. - Strategy drives visibility. - Visibility builds trust. - Trust creates long-term influence. If you are serious about building a personal brand that lasts beyond trends, algorithms, and platforms — this episode is your starting point. 📖 GET THE BOOK: The Covert Code – Mastering the Art of Digital Marketing Amazon: https://rb.gy/wrht8 Barnes & Noble: https://rb.gy/vwev0a Target: https://rb.gy/jhpxri ✨ CONNECT WITH TERRY STANTON https://books.forbes.com/our-team/terry-stanton/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/terrystanton1/ 🎧 LISTEN ON ALL PLATFORMS: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0UcnL4g4J2DckqMpZg4DdB?si=NKAFJcRMSdOJlP5iebBxoA&nd=1&dlsi=50d6d5c5753a499b Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-covert-code/id1733326615 Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/d15bb709-a4df-43bb-9284-9e479c8574a7/the-covert-code iHeart Radio: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-the-covert-code-269144900/ YouTube Music: https://music.youtube.com/channel/UCSU2Anqu1_yzb_D6IFd7i_Q 🌐 FOLLOW THE COVERT CODE: Website: https://thecovertcode.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/covertcodeofficial Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thecovertcode LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/covert-code-official/ 📚 ABOUT HOST ANNA COVERT: Anna Covert is the host of The Covert Code Podcast and author of The Covert Code – Mastering the Art of Digital Marketing and The Solar Coaster. With over two decades of experience in digital marketing and business strategy, Anna has worked with top-tier companies like Microsoft, Apple, and IBM, and leads Covert Communication, Hawaii's largest digital agency. Through The Covert Code Podcast, Anna brings together industry leaders, innovators, and entrepreneurs to share insights on business growth, leadership, and the strategies that drive success in today's evolving marketplace. ANNA'S WEBSITES: The Covert Code: https://thecovertcode.com/ Anna Covert: https://annacovert.com/ Covert Communication: https://covertcommunication.com/ Reactium: https://reactium.io/ ⚠️ Affiliate Disclaimer: Some of the links above may be affiliate links, which means we may earn a small commission if you choose to make a purchase through them at no additional cost to you. We only recommend resources we genuinely believe in and personally support.

    41 min
  8. Shaoqing Sun on Unleashing Boundless Creativity | The Covert Code | EP 112

    May 1

    Shaoqing Sun on Unleashing Boundless Creativity | The Covert Code | EP 112

    What if success isn’t the problem — but ego-driven success is? In this episode of The Covert Code Podcast, Anna Covert sits down with Shaoqing Sun, founder of C&C Reservoirs, scientist, and Forbes author of From Burnout to Bliss: Dissolve Your Ego, Fuel Your Success, and Find True Fulfillment. After more than three decades helping global energy leaders make smarter, lower-risk decisions, Shaoqing Sun shares a deeper truth: success doesn’t fail people — ego-driven success does. Today, he helps entrepreneurs and executives dissolve ego, unlock creativity, and transform leadership from overdrive into effortless purpose. In this episode we discuss: • Why ego-driven success can lead to burnout • How leaders can unlock boundless creativity • What science teaches us about decision-making • How to lead with clarity instead of pressure • The signs someone is operating from ego instead of purpose • How failure can become a turning point • What it means to move from burnout to bliss If you are a leader, entrepreneur, or high achiever chasing success but still feeling unfulfilled, this conversation with Shaoqing Sun will give you a new way to think about creativity, purpose, and true fulfillment. 📖 GET THE BOOK: The Covert Code – Mastering the Art of Digital Marketing Amazon: https://rb.gy/wrht8 Barnes & Noble: https://rb.gy/vwev0a Target: https://rb.gy/jhpxri ✨ CONNECT WITH SHAOQING SUN Website: https://drshaoqingsun.com 🎧 LISTEN ON ALL PLATFORMS Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0UcnL4g4J2DckqMpZg4DdB Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-covert-code/id1733326615 Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/d15bb709-a4df-43bb-9284-9e479c8574a7/the-covert-code iHeart Radio: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-the-covert-code-269144900/ YouTube Music: https://music.youtube.com/channel/UCSU2Anqu1_yzb_D6IFd7i_Q 🌐 FOLLOW THE COVERT CODE Website: https://thecovertcode.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/covertcodeofficial Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thecovertcode LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/covert-code-official/

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Welcome to The Covert Code Podcast, hosted by Forbes best-selling author Anna Covert, where we decode the strategies that drive digital success. Each episode tackles the essential questions: How do you thrive in today’s digital landscape? Are you meeting your customers’ needs? Does your platform deliver, and are your tech choices aligned with your goals? And do your digital ads truly make an impact? Join Anna as she interviews industry experts and innovators, sharing actionable insights and the latest trends. Perfect for business owners, marketers, and tech enthusiasts, The Covert Code Podcast is your guide to building a stronger brand and mastering the digital world.

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  • Creator
    Anna Covert
  • Years Active
    2024 - 2026
  • Episodes
    122
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Show Website
    The Covert Code