The Jon & Marc Podcast

Jon & Marc
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Legal growth insights from Jon, Marc, and the industry's top tier legal & marketing professionals. Two veteran legal marketers, Jon Robinson and Marc Rioux, dive into the business of law, mass torts, and the future of plaintiff-side firms. From marketing strategy and technology to candid conversations with top trial lawyers, marketers, and industry leaders, this podcast unpacks what’s really driving growth and change in the legal world. Honest, practical, and a little irreverent—perfect for attorneys, marketers, and anyone curious about where the business of law is headed.

  1. 1D AGO

    Proving Liability vs. Proving Damages: Lessons from the Uber MDL

    Key Takeaways: The Uber $5,000 Verdict: While the dollar amount was low, the verdict is seen as a "win-win" because it established Uber’s liability for driver conduct and cleared the "common carrier" hurdle in a defense-picked case. Bard PowerPort Momentum: The first Bellwether trial has begun in Arizona; as a plaintiff pick, this case is crucial for setting the valuation and momentum for the 3,000+ pending cases. SCOTUS & Roundup: The April 27th oral arguments regarding federal preemption could have massive ripple effects for Paraquat, hair relaxers, and any litigation involving "failure to warn" claims. The "Old School" Appeal of Olympus Scopes: There is significant enthusiasm for the Olympus Scopes litigation because it follows a traditional medical device fact pattern with clear signature injuries. Causation is King: The Uber result highlights that even when liability is clear, specific causation and the severity of damages remain the ultimate deciders of a case's global settlement value.

    14 min

  2. 3D AGO

    The Design Defect That Transmits Superbugs: Inside the Olympus Scopes Case

    Key Takeaways: The "Ick Factor" and Cleaning Failure: The Lanier Law Firm's Kelsey Stokes explains how Olympus, the leading endoscope manufacturer, produces devices used in roughly 30 million procedures annually, yet these reusable scopes are designed in a way that makes them nearly impossible to fully clean. The Scale of the Crisis: Data suggests an unacceptable complication rate of approximately 30,000 cases per year where infections or injuries occur following routine procedures like colonoscopies or bronchoscopies. Gram-Negative Superbugs: The primary injuries involve multi-drug resistant organisms (MDROs) or "superbugs" that enter the system, leading to sepsis and organ failure; infections typically onset within two to 30 days post-procedure. Polymer Breakdown and Perforation: Beyond infections, the repeated reprocessing of these devices causes the polymer to break down, leading to the device "shedding" plastic or falling apart during use, which can result in bowel perforations. Identifying Potential Cases: Attorneys can identify these cases in existing portfolios, specifically patients who underwent scopes for Zantac-related esophagus issues or hernia mesh-related bowel issues, and found that Olympus accounts for roughly 85% of the market. Hernia Mesh Settlement Update: The litigation against C.R. Bard has reached a global deal, with payments currently being distributed to traditional pay cases and ongoing litigation scheduled for other defendants in July.

    28 min

  3. 6D AGO

    Roblox, Olympus, and Social Media: The Most Anticipated Trials of 2026

    Key Takeaways: The Energy Shift at MTMP: Unlike the somber mood of previous years, there is a "renewed and refreshed energy" in the market driven by capital reinvestment from settling legacy torts like hernia mesh and Zantac.The Return of the PI Firm: There is a significant influx of single-event personal injury firms entering the space, utilizing their existing "know, like, and trust" client relationships to mine for cases like Olympus and Dupixent.Roblox Litigation Challenges: While sophisticated data scraping tools can now pull user history directly via API, the litigation is expected to be a long battle as Roblox implements age verification changes to shut off future liability.Meta’s Crackdown on Attorney Ads: Meta has begun banning attorney accounts targeting users for social media addiction cases, forcing firms to become "channel agnostic" and look toward SEO, referrals, and cross-pollination of existing dockets.Upcoming Trial Benchmarks: Critical momentum is building with the third Uber bellwether trial in North Carolina and the upcoming Bard PowerPort trial, which features a strong trial team and over 3,000 filed cases.

    23 min

  4. APR 14

    Ironman, Not Terminator: The Reality of AI in Modern Plaintiff Law

    Key Takeaways: The "AI Mailroom" Solution: Foundation AI serves as a bridge between inbound documents and practice management systems, automating the tedious work of capturing, naming, and filing documents. Efficiency Drivers: Plaintiff and contingency-based firms are the primary drivers of AI adoption because they are financially incentivized to be more efficient, unlike the defense side which often relies on billable hours. Context is King: AI systems are only as good as the context they are given; without accessible documents and clean data, AI-generated outputs like automated demands will be ineffective. The "Ironman" Approach: Effective legal AI should act as an "Ironman suit" that enhances human capability rather than a "Terminator" that replaces it, incorporating human review when confidence scores are low. Vetting Vendors: Law firms should treat AI vendor security as "table stakes," looking for SOC 2 Type 2 certification and established references to ensure data security and HIPAA-level compliance. Prioritizing Human Touch: While AI should handle "s****y" administrative tasks, humans remain uniquely suited for high-stakes, emotional interactions like initial intake and phone calls.

    40 min

  5. APR 9

    The 2026 April Mass Tort Power Rankings: Who Takes the Top Spot?

    Key Takeaways: Social Media Addiction is the new #1: Following a $6 million verdict against Meta and Google, Section 230 is no longer seen as an invincible defense. Depo-Provera’s "Rocket Docket": This is currently the fastest-moving MDL in history, with a trial potentially scheduled for December 2026. The Rise of Tech Torts: Four of the top six mass torts are now technology platform-based, including Social Media Addiction, Video Game Addiction, Roblox, and Uber. Uber's Strategy Shift: Amidst ongoing bellwether trials, Uber is allegedly beginning to resolve select cases with severe injuries and clear records rather than fighting every claim. One to Watch (Olympus Scopes): A new litigation involving infections from Olympus scopes is buzzing; it has the potential to exceed 20,000 cases.

    23 min

  6. APR 7

    Marketing as a Profit Center: Why Your Law Firm Brand is Compounding

    Key Takeaways: Operations vs. IT: Distinguish between infrastructure and "technology-wrapped" processes by hiring specialized roles like Digital Operations Managers and Salesforce Architects. Marketing as a Profit Center: Treat marketing as a revenue driver rather than an expense by hiring elite talent from high-volume industries outside of law. The Brand Compounding Effect: Personal and firm branding are long-term plays that yield massive results over time through consistent, authentic communication. Maximum Impact Giving: Move beyond writing checks by offering your firm’s professional expertise (like SOP development or social media training) to help nonprofits grow. Strategic Tech Adoption: Avoid the "plug-and-play" trap by using formal change management models and internal "influencers" to test tools before a full-firm rollout.

    47 min

  7. APR 2

    The $6 Million Signal: Analyzing the Social Media Addiction Verdict

    Key Takeaways: Social Media Addiction Verdict: A landmark $6 million verdict ($3M compensatory, $3M punitive) was reached in Los Angeles. Bard PowerPort Launch: The first Bellwether trial is set for April 21, 2026. Plaintiffs saw a major win in recent Daubert rulings, with most experts cleared to testify, setting the stage for a critical two-to-three-week trial. NEC Trial Momentum: A month into the Cook County trial involving four families, testimony has been "impactful" and traumatic. Hair Relaxer Deadlines: With nearly 12,000 cases pending, the litigation is entering a "make or break" phase. Talc Litigation Turmoil: All eyes are on a high-stakes settlement meeting scheduled for April 13, 2026.

    16 min

  8. MAR 31

    The Truth About Mass Tort Payouts No One Explains to Clients

    Key Takeaways: Why mass tort settlements can take 10–14 months to fully pay out The difference between a settlement announcement and a finalized agreement How lien resolution, probate, and bankruptcies delay distributions Why poor data management slows firms down in first-in, first-out systems How client expectations drive negative reviews in mass tort practices What law firms can do on the front end to speed up backend payouts

    38 min
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Legal growth insights from Jon, Marc, and the industry's top tier legal & marketing professionals. Two veteran legal marketers, Jon Robinson and Marc Rioux, dive into the business of law, mass torts, and the future of plaintiff-side firms. From marketing strategy and technology to candid conversations with top trial lawyers, marketers, and industry leaders, this podcast unpacks what’s really driving growth and change in the legal world. Honest, practical, and a little irreverent—perfect for attorneys, marketers, and anyone curious about where the business of law is headed.

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  • Creator
    Jon & Marc
  • Years Active
    2025 - 2026
  • Episodes
    68
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © Jon & Marc
  • Show Website
    The Jon & Marc Podcast

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