The Heart & Science of Leadership

Dr. Paul "Paulie" Gavoni
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The Heart & Science of Leadership" podcast, co-hosted by Dr. Paulie and A.J. Rinaldi, combines their diverse backgrounds in leadership to offer a comprehensive view on what it takes to lead effectively, no matter your position—be it executive, teacher, manager, principal, supervisor, or coach. Together, they explore the balance between the human side of leadership and evidence-based practices, providing listeners with practical tools, real-life stories, and actionable strategies. Whether you're a seasoned leader or just starting your journey, this podcast delivers valuable insights that blend heart and science for impactful leadership in any setting.

  1. Leadership When Life Hits Back: The Paul Anthony Episode

    13H AGO

    Leadership When Life Hits Back: The Paul Anthony Episode

    Send us a text Most people brag about leadership when things are working. When the check clears, the metrics are green, and applause is still flowing. But what happens when the spotlight shuts off… or your body betrays you… or life delivers a sentence most people don’t come back from? In this episode, Dr. Paul “Paulie” Gavoni and AJ Rinaldi sit down with the legendary Paul Anthony — a global music icon turned three-time cancer champion — to explore what leadership looks like when everything that used to define you is gone… except your identity, your energy, and your behavior. Paul’s reaction to a diagnosis labeled “fatal” wasn’t fear. It was clarity: “I’m not changing sh*t.” Not because he ignored reality — but because he refused to surrender the core of who he was. This is an episode about identity under pressure, behavior under fire, and the type of leadership that can’t be faked because it’s lived. 🌟 Who Is Paul Anthony?  Paul Anthony is a Grammy Award–certified producer, singer, songwriter, and cultural force from the legendary group FULL FORCE, with multiple Diamond, Platinum, and Gold records. He’s collaborated with icons like James Brown, Rihanna, Justin Timberlake, The Black Eyed Peas, Patti Labelle, Nicky Minaj, Britney Spears, Eminem, and more — and starred in the groundbreaking films House Party 1 & 2. He helped introduce fitness and bodybuilding into hip-hop and pop culture long before it was mainstream. And then life tested him again — not onstage, but in the hospital. He is now a three-time cancer champion, a two-time bone marrow transplant survivor, and a National Advisory Board member for Moffitt Cancer Center. Paul isn’t just a creator of hits. He is a creator of hope, purpose, and behavioral leadership under the harshest conditions possible. 🕒 Timestamps & Key Moments TimeTopic00:00 | Welcome to The Heart & Science of Leadership 02:10 | Paul Anthony’s early years, music career, and purpose 05:42 | The biopsy and the words “incurable and fatal” 06:18 | “I’m not changing sh*t” — decision over reaction 08:41 | Leadership as energy, not ego 11:52 | “This AND that” — ending scarcity thinking 13:10 | Thousands helped by his mindset and message 16:27 | What legacy looks like when it’s behavioral 19:05 | “I don’t need applause. I need impact.” 22:40 | The shift from entertainer to transformational leader 27:14 | Paul’s call to leaders: stop performing, start reinforcing lives 🧠 Leadership Takeaways  Behavior is identity. When pressure rises, reinforcement history is exposed.Leaders who stay anchored to values under stress create psychological safety for others.“This AND that” is a behavioral pivot — widening contingencies instead of shrinking choice.Legacy is measurable: it’s the behavior others repeatPick up a copy of the #1 bestseller: Adaptive Intelligence: The Evolution of Emotional Intelligence Through the Proven Power of Behavior Science The Behavioral Toolbox  equips those charged with supporting behavior change in schools with practical applications of the science of human behavior for making a positive difference in the workplace. In this case, the classroom and school! Be sure to subscribe to Dr. Paulie's Heart & Science YouTube channel for a variety of content related to behavior science and bringing out the best in yourself and others.

    1h 4m

  2. AUG 9

    Change Isn’t Optional: What Every Leader Needs to Know

    Send us a text In this episode of The Heart & Science of Leadership Podcast, Dr. Paulie and Aj tackle one of the toughest challenges leaders face: change. They explore how change can feel like both an exciting opportunity and a sucker punch in the gut. Drawing on behavior science and real-world leadership experience, Paulie and Aj break down how leaders can navigate change effectively, turning disruption into growth. Whether you’re leading a team, department, or entire organization, this episode offers practical strategies and candid insights to help you manage change with confidence and clarity. Tune in for a fresh perspective on leading through the ups and downs of transformation.  Pick up a copy of the #1 bestseller: Adaptive Intelligence: The Evolution of Emotional Intelligence Through the Proven Power of Behavior Science The Behavioral Toolbox  equips those charged with supporting behavior change in schools with practical applications of the science of human behavior for making a positive difference in the workplace. In this case, the classroom and school! Be sure to subscribe to Dr. Paulie's Heart & Science YouTube channel for a variety of content related to behavior science and bringing out the best in yourself and others.

    57 min

  3. JUN 21

    The Science of Effective Feedback

    Send us a text Imagine leadership without feedback. It's like trying to navigate a ship without instruments or stars – virtually impossible. In this episode of The Heart & Science of Leadership Podcast, Dr. Paulie Gavoni and A.J. Rinaldi dive deep into one of the most misunderstood tools in a leader’s toolbox—feedback. 📢 Feedback isn't just a way to correct mistakes—it's a powerful lever for shaping culture, improving performance, and building trust. But too often, it's delivered haphazardly, inconsistently, or with the wrong intent. Based on content from Dr. Paulie's best-selling book, The Feedback Effect, they explore: Why most leaders get feedback wrongThe behavior science behind effective feedback loopsCommon myths that sabotage team performancePractical, actionable strategies to give (and get) feedback that actually worksWhether you're leading a team, managing a classroom, or coaching others to succeed, this episode breaks down how to use feedback not as a tool for control—but as a catalyst for growth. 🧠 It’s not just about saying something—it’s about shaping something. Remember, leadership isn't about intent, it's about impact. Pick up a copy of the #1 bestseller: Adaptive Intelligence: The Evolution of Emotional Intelligence Through the Proven Power of Behavior Science The Behavioral Toolbox  equips those charged with supporting behavior change in schools with practical applications of the science of human behavior for making a positive difference in the workplace. In this case, the classroom and school! Be sure to subscribe to Dr. Paulie's Heart & Science YouTube channel for a variety of content related to behavior science and bringing out the best in yourself and others.

    51 min

  4. JUN 8

    Clear and Compelling: Leading with Vision, Voice, and Authenticity with Salvatore J. Manzi

    Send us a text In this episode, we sit down with communication strategist and leadership coach Salvatore J. Manzi, author of The Clear and Compelling Playbook. With over two decades of experience helping individuals and organizations elevate their presence and clarity, Salvatore shares powerful insights on how to lead with purpose, speak with intention, and create meaningful change—whether you’re in the boardroom, on stage, or navigating day-to-day conversations. We explore what it really means to align your message with your mission, and how to bring your most authentic self to every interaction. From coaching top executives to guiding TEDx speakers, Salvatore brings a wealth of practical tools and behavioral insight to help leaders at every level communicate more effectively and connect more deeply. Whether you're a seasoned leader or an emerging one, this conversation will challenge your assumptions, sharpen your skills, and remind you that real leadership is a daily practice—not a position. 🔗 Learn more and grab the book: clearandcompellingplaybook.com 🔗 Connect with Salvatore on LinkedIn: Salvatore J. Manzi | LinkedIn 🧠 Leadership is behavior. Let’s unlock it—and unleash potential. And remember, it's about impact, not title or intent! Pick up a copy of the #1 bestseller: Adaptive Intelligence: The Evolution of Emotional Intelligence Through the Proven Power of Behavior Science The Behavioral Toolbox  equips those charged with supporting behavior change in schools with practical applications of the science of human behavior for making a positive difference in the workplace. In this case, the classroom and school! Be sure to subscribe to Dr. Paulie's Heart & Science YouTube channel for a variety of content related to behavior science and bringing out the best in yourself and others.

    46 min

  5. MAY 9

    Inside the Mind of a Fortune 10 Leader: Kyle McDowell on Leading with WE

    Send us a text In this compelling episode, Dr. Paulie and co-host AJ Rinaldi engage with Kyle McDowell, a former Fortune 10 executive turned leadership coach and bestselling author of Begin With WE. Kyle shares his journey from leading tens of thousands in corporate America to pioneering a leadership philosophy centered on collective empowerment. They delve into the pitfalls of "me-oriented" leadership and explore Kyle's "10 WEs" framework—principles designed to dismantle dysfunction and foster a culture of excellence. Through candid discussions, Kyle emphasizes the importance of authenticity, accountability, and leading by example to inspire teams and drive meaningful change. Whether you're navigating the complexities of organizational leadership or seeking to cultivate a more inclusive and effective team environment, this episode offers actionable insights grounded in real-world experience. 🔑 Key Takeaways: Transitioning from individualistic to collective leadership mindsetsImplementing the "10 WEs" to build cohesive and high-performing teamsEmbracing vulnerability and authenticity as leadership strengthsStrategies for transforming toxic work cultures into thriving communitiesFor more on Kyle's leadership philosophy and resources, visit kylemcdowellinc.com. Pick up a copy of the #1 bestseller: Adaptive Intelligence: The Evolution of Emotional Intelligence Through the Proven Power of Behavior Science The Behavioral Toolbox  equips those charged with supporting behavior change in schools with practical applications of the science of human behavior for making a positive difference in the workplace. In this case, the classroom and school! Be sure to subscribe to Dr. Paulie's Heart & Science YouTube channel for a variety of content related to behavior science and bringing out the best in yourself and others.

    50 min

  6. APR 20

    Observable, Measurable, Impactful: Redefining Leadership with Behavior Science

    Send us a text Leadership isn’t a title—it’s a behavior. And while there’s no shortage of leadership theories floating around, this episode goes beneath the surface. Dr. Paul “Paulie” Gavoni and A.J. Rinaldi take a sharp, scientific look at what truly drives leadership that works. Instead of parroting popular slogans, they dig into the behaviors, decisions, and contingencies that make—or break—leaders. It’s not about charisma or command. It’s about the observable, measurable behaviors that produce real results. “We’re not just talking about what leadership looks like—we’re talking about what it produces. That’s where the science comes in.” – Dr. Paulie GavoniWhether you’re running a school, leading a team, or just trying to lead yourself more effectively, this episode lays the behavioral groundwork. 📘 Ready to level up? Grab your copy of Positional Authority Ain’t Leadership—a no-fluff blueprint for influencing performance through the science of human behavior. Pick up a copy of the #1 bestseller: Adaptive Intelligence: The Evolution of Emotional Intelligence Through the Proven Power of Behavior Science The Behavioral Toolbox  equips those charged with supporting behavior change in schools with practical applications of the science of human behavior for making a positive difference in the workplace. In this case, the classroom and school! Be sure to subscribe to Dr. Paulie's Heart & Science YouTube channel for a variety of content related to behavior science and bringing out the best in yourself and others.

    54 min

  7. MAR 15

    The Leadership Language: How to Communicate for Influence, Trust, and Success

    Send us a text Ever wonder why some leaders instantly command respect while others struggle to get their message across? The secret lies not in what they say, but how they communicate it. Communication represents the fundamental difference between leadership that merely directs and leadership that transforms. In this thought-provoking episode, Dr. Paul Gavoni and AJ Rinaldi unpack the five critical dimensions of leadership communication that drive organizational success: reinforcing for production, resolving for partnership, reciting for inspiration, reflecting for authenticity, and receiving for understanding. The conversation reveals surprising insights about the science of human behavior, including the optimal 4:1 ratio of positive to corrective feedback and why our natural tendency to focus on problems actually undermines our leadership effectiveness. Both hosts candidly share their personal struggles with public speaking—once their greatest fear—and how they transformed this weakness into a strength through deliberate practice and mindset shifts. Perhaps most powerfully, they challenge the common assumption that communication flows primarily downward in organizations. "When was the last time you directed positive feedback up the chain?" Dr. Gavoni asks, highlighting how true communication creates a culture of mutual respect that flows in all directions. Through practical examples, compelling research, and memorable stories, this episode provides a comprehensive framework for communication that builds trust, resolves conflict, and inspires exceptional performance. Whether you're leading a small team or an entire organization, these evidence-based communication strategies will help you move beyond good intentions to create lasting impact. After all, as the hosts remind us, leadership isn't about title or intent—it's about impact. Link to Respect is a 2-Way Street Article Pick up a copy of the #1 bestseller: Adaptive Intelligence: The Evolution of Emotional Intelligence Through the Proven Power of Behavior Science The Behavioral Toolbox  equips those charged with supporting behavior change in schools with practical applications of the science of human behavior for making a positive difference in the workplace. In this case, the classroom and school! Be sure to subscribe to Dr. Paulie's Heart & Science YouTube channel for a variety of content related to behavior science and bringing out the best in yourself and others.

    58 min

  8. FEB 19

    From Hiring to Inspiring: The Art & Science of Team Development

    Send us a text John Maxwell once said, “If you think you're leading and no one is following, you're just taking a walk.” Leadership isn’t about titles—it’s about the team you build, develop, and inspire. In this episode, we’re breaking down the 5 P’s of Team Building—Pursuing, Promoting, Purging, Pushing, and Pulling—to help you create a high-performing team that doesn’t just follow but thrives. From attracting top talent to making tough calls on underperformance, from fueling motivation to inspiring action, we dive deep into the behavioral science behind effective leadership. Join us as we explore the strategies that separate real leaders from those just taking a walk. 🎧 Tune in and learn how to build a team that wins—together. Pick up a copy of the #1 bestseller: Adaptive Intelligence: The Evolution of Emotional Intelligence Through the Proven Power of Behavior Science The Behavioral Toolbox  equips those charged with supporting behavior change in schools with practical applications of the science of human behavior for making a positive difference in the workplace. In this case, the classroom and school! Be sure to subscribe to Dr. Paulie's Heart & Science YouTube channel for a variety of content related to behavior science and bringing out the best in yourself and others.

    46 min
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The Heart & Science of Leadership" podcast, co-hosted by Dr. Paulie and A.J. Rinaldi, combines their diverse backgrounds in leadership to offer a comprehensive view on what it takes to lead effectively, no matter your position—be it executive, teacher, manager, principal, supervisor, or coach. Together, they explore the balance between the human side of leadership and evidence-based practices, providing listeners with practical tools, real-life stories, and actionable strategies. Whether you're a seasoned leader or just starting your journey, this podcast delivers valuable insights that blend heart and science for impactful leadership in any setting.

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  • Creator
    Dr. Paul "Paulie" Gavoni
  • Years Active
    2022 - 2025
  • Episodes
    46
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © 2025 Heart & Science Counsulting, LLC
  • Show Website
    The Heart & Science of Leadership

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