143 episodes

We tell stories from the fault lines that separate Americans. Peabody Award-winning public radio producer Trey Kay listens to people on both sides of the divide.

Us & Them Trey Kay and WVPB

    • Philosophy
    • 4.6 • 332 Ratings

We tell stories from the fault lines that separate Americans. Peabody Award-winning public radio producer Trey Kay listens to people on both sides of the divide.

    Kingwood March Exposed a Raw Seam of Rage

    Kingwood March Exposed a Raw Seam of Rage

    2020 presented new levels of outrage over police killings of Black and Brown people in this nation. Police killed George Floyd and Breonna Taylor which prompted protests, marches and rallies to denounce racially motivated police brutality. A Black Lives Matter march in Kingwood, West Virginia set up a flash point for that tiny town. Black protestors and their allies faced off with white people who say Kingwood has no race problem. The angry white crowd outnumbered BLM marchers and showed the raw seam of rage that has come to define racism in this country. In this Us & Them episode, host Trey Kay speaks with one woman pushing back at the fear and outrage of racial hatred in America.

    • 31 min
    Sink or Swim

    Sink or Swim

    2020 has required a lot from us all. It’s been a year of challenge and adaptation. Us & Them host Trey Kay recalls the line in a holiday classic “Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas” that says, “we’ll have to muddle through somehow.” None of us had any idea how much muddling 2020 would demand. We’ve faced the pandemic and its consequences and a contentious national election that highlight the divisions in our nation. The year presented a series of choices with a clear outcome: sink or swim. Moving ahead, Trey looks at the adaptations he’s made and which he might adopt long term. Oh, and spoiler alert: he’s learning to like swimming outside in ice water!

    • 12 min
    Forced Apart: Faith Tested

    Forced Apart: Faith Tested

    This year has tested us in many ways. Restrictions and stay-at-home orders prevent people from sharing familiar traditions and worshiping together. Some say the coronavirus has tested their faith and beliefs. Not only do they mourn those who’ve died, they miss gathering with their congregations, whether it’s in a pew or kneeling on the floor for daily prayers. Many churches, mosques and synagogues now offer online services in a virtual realm, which can open new doors. Faith practices in the time of COVID-19 look and feel different, but how has the virus changed our spirituality?

    • 51 min
    Dessert & Dialogue

    Dessert & Dialogue

    2021 will offer us all some new beginnings. Political leaders take office with the prospect of a COVID vaccine on the horizon. However, millions of people are reeling from the economic consequences of the pandemic. Millions more are angry over the election outcome. How do we move our democracy forward? Our Us & Them virtual dinner party is back - this time, for dessert. Our guests, from across the divide, will talk about how honest, open conversation can help us come together.

    • 42 min
    Forced Apart: Cornucopia of Change

    Forced Apart: Cornucopia of Change

    This is a season when many people turn to family, friends and food. As we enter the end-of-the-year holidays, group celebrations are discouraged to reduce COVID-19 infections. We are in uncertain times, dealing with many things that are out of our control. A contentious election and a global pandemic leave us divided and apart, while searching for comfort and familiarity. While food traditions have changed this year, they can still bring joy. Our cuisine shares our legacy even when we aren’t physically together. On this episode of Us & Them a look at how people across the country seek to connect with others by adopting new food traditions.

    • 55 min
    Forced Apart: Can Our Economy Rebound Without Reliable, Safe Child Care?

    Forced Apart: Can Our Economy Rebound Without Reliable, Safe Child Care?

    The coronavirus has divided the world’s workforce into some new categories. White collar workers are remote employees who can do their jobs from home. Blue collar workers are often essential, front-line workers who must show up on the job to keep the supply chain and service industries moving. Essential medical workers keep our hospitals and clinics open. And there’s another group of workers on which the success of all the above — and some argue our very economy — rely: child-care workers. 

    Early on in the pandemic, many states declared day-care facilities to be critical care sites and ordered them open to care for the children of our essential workers. Months later, those businesses face continually evolving regulations designed to keep children and workers safe. The success of our services and our economy is banking on them.

    • 33 min

Customer Reviews

4.6 out of 5
332 Ratings

332 Ratings

juliebwood ,

Binge-worthy!

I can’t eat just one Lay’s potato chip, nor can I listen to just one Us & Them. Us & Them is thought-provoking, educational, and entertaining. The series is a must-add to your podcast listening. Episodes are worth listening to once, twice, and more. Like a seven-layer cookie, you’ll always find some tasty morsel you missed the first time around.

ecobos93 ,

Beautiful episode!

Have listened to this show a few times. Just listened to the Cornucopia of Change episode. Such a beautiful one! Thank you to your team and the families who shared those heartwarming stories.

jilshs ,

I wish I could wash my brain after listening

“Objectivity is a luxury of the status quo”. Your self righteous, affected way of speaking and presenting information, along with your insistence on your neutrality and desire to remain unperturbed by the violent, racist, willful ignorance of your acquaintances makes your podcast cringe-worthy, creepy, and unlistenable. You and your privilege are part of the problem, definitely not part of the solution.

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