128 episodes

When it comes to blockchain, the thing people talk about most — the price — is actually the least interesting part. Crypto conversations are too often about who’s up and who’s down, what to buy and what to sell, and today’s drama on Twitter. Most conversations about crypto miss how it’s going to change ... everything.


On VALIDATED, we’ll be talking to the people who are rethinking the internet — and our world. No hype cycles. No financial advice. Just conversations on the biggest ideas shaping the future of the internet.


Web3 is complicated, but never boring.

Validated Solana Foundation

    • Technology
    • 4.9 • 48 Ratings

When it comes to blockchain, the thing people talk about most — the price — is actually the least interesting part. Crypto conversations are too often about who’s up and who’s down, what to buy and what to sell, and today’s drama on Twitter. Most conversations about crypto miss how it’s going to change ... everything.


On VALIDATED, we’ll be talking to the people who are rethinking the internet — and our world. No hype cycles. No financial advice. Just conversations on the biggest ideas shaping the future of the internet.


Web3 is complicated, but never boring.

    Why Does Mexico Want to Tokenize Its Treasuries? w/ David Taylor (Etherfuse)

    Why Does Mexico Want to Tokenize Its Treasuries? w/ David Taylor (Etherfuse)

    In this episode, Austin talks with David Taylor (Etherfuse) about tokenizing Mexican bonds and equities. By bringing these assets onchain, Etherfuse is drastically reducing global barriers to entry in emerging markets. David discusses the Mexican government's enthusiastic response to their partnership and how their success could set a precedent for other governments tokenizing their treasuries through Etherfuse. Beyond their flagship "stablebonds", David speculates on how developers will use Etherfuse's SDK to build protocols to bring other secure financial assets, such as 401Ks, onchain.

    • 42 min
    The Long-Term Vision for the DA Layer w/ Connor O'Hara (Celestia)

    The Long-Term Vision for the DA Layer w/ Connor O'Hara (Celestia)

    In this episode, Austin chats with Connor O'Hara (Celestia) about the scope of DA projects like Celestia. After a reflective discussion on a wide range of topics from the early days of Bitcoin to tradeoffs of proof-of-stake networks, Connor gets at the heart of how data availability works, how it differs from settlement and state, and where data availability and verifiability intersect. He also addresses questions around the long-term vision for the DA layer, what attacks on the DA layer may look like, tradeoffs of enshrining apps in the L1, and much more.

    • 57 min
    The Restaking Thesis w/ Sreeram Kannan (Eigen Labs)

    The Restaking Thesis w/ Sreeram Kannan (Eigen Labs)

    In this episode, Austin chats with Sreeram Kannan (Eigen Labs) about EigenLayer's vision for restaking. Sreeram argues that restaking is merely a way of making proof-of-stake networks more programmable, addressing the economic and architectural considerations required to make the restaking thesis work. The conversation also elucidates the relationship between EigenLayer and the Ethereum L1, particularly in the context of settlement and data availability, and how restaking may also one day be applied to blockchains outside the Ethereum ecosystem.

    • 1 hr 3 min
    Level Up. Go Crankless. w/ Jarry Xiao (Phoenix)

    Level Up. Go Crankless. w/ Jarry Xiao (Phoenix)

    In this episode, Austin chats with Jarry Xiao from Ellipsis Labs about Phoenix, the fastest on-chain orderbook on Solana. They explore Phoenix's innovative design, which enables settlement without the need for asynchronous cranks, setting it apart from previous order books on Solana. The conversation covers a range of topics including capital efficiency in DeFi, strategies for market making, the importance of competition within Solana's DEX ecosystem, and more.

    • 43 min
    Rethinking Solana's Validator Client Paradigm w/ Ahmad Abbasi (Syndica)

    Rethinking Solana's Validator Client Paradigm w/ Ahmad Abbasi (Syndica)

    In this episode, Austin talks with Ahmad Abbasi (Syndica) about Sig, a new Solana validator client built in Zig. Unlike other Solana validator clients, Sig is optimized for reads as opposed to writes. Ahmad unpacks the seemingly herculean task of writing a new validator client from scratch and why this was an important decision for Syndica's core business of providing RPC node infrastructure. He explains Zig's unique advantages in this context and how Sig will ultimately make running validators node more accessible for the entire ecosystem.

    • 28 min
    What Solana Unlocks for GameFi's Backend w/ Albert Chen (Genopets)

    What Solana Unlocks for GameFi's Backend w/ Albert Chen (Genopets)

    Web3 gaming is one of the oldest proposed use cases for blockchain. In this episode, Austin chats with Albert Chen (Genopets) about the state of web3 games on Solana and beyond. They dive into Genopets, exploring its gameplay, its web3 integration, and the philosophy guiding its backend design. The discussion also covers Genopets' semi-custodial approach to in-game assets, composability, and the crucial role of Phoenix in Genopets' design. Albert also compares transaction dynamics on Solana versus Ethereum, claiming a game like Genopets is only possible to build on Solana.

    • 29 min

Customer Reviews

4.9 out of 5
48 Ratings

48 Ratings

N X C ,

One of my favorite blockchain podcasts

Has more depth than a lot of crypto podcasts out there. Whether you follow Solana chain or not, this is a good one to increase your industry perspective and get smarter.

Semsin689 ,

Came for Solana. Stayed for Anatoly.

So awesome to get a peek inside this guy’s brain every episode. More technically and philosophically interesting than most other blockchain podcasts out there.

will.bao ,

Good podcast but could use some work

It’s a good podcast due to the founder having access to amazing guests. But questions are often not very insightful and worse can seem uninformed.

Not quite sure how much Anatoly actually researches on his guests beforehand, but it doesn’t seem like it’s a lot.

However, it’s nice to hear the thoughts of the Solana founder through various topics, just wish it’s more polished.

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