95 episodes

Too often business leaders are forced to choose between the needs of their company and the needs of their employees. It’s a lose/lose scenario leaving managers burned out and workers seeking other opportunities. At Work for Humans, we believe work can be designed differently. When you design work like products people love, your company wins. Work becomes irresistible, employees passionately buy into their roles every day, and your company takes measurable strides towards your vision.

Work For Humans Dart Lindsley

    • Business
    • 5.0 • 28 Ratings

Too often business leaders are forced to choose between the needs of their company and the needs of their employees. It’s a lose/lose scenario leaving managers burned out and workers seeking other opportunities. At Work for Humans, we believe work can be designed differently. When you design work like products people love, your company wins. Work becomes irresistible, employees passionately buy into their roles every day, and your company takes measurable strides towards your vision.

    SafetyWing: Creating a Global Social Safety Net to Equalize Opportunity and Freedom | Adrian Salazar

    SafetyWing: Creating a Global Social Safety Net to Equalize Opportunity and Freedom | Adrian Salazar

    Losing your job in the U.S. means more than losing your income. It often means losing access to crucial medications and healthcare. Adrian Salazar, the Head of Culture and Integrity at SafetyWing, advocates for a shift away from fear-driven work decisions. Through his role, he is actively involved in creating a social safety net and the first-ever internet-based country for workers around the globe.

    Adrian Salazar is the Head of Culture and Integrity at SafetyWing, a company pioneering the first global safety net and internet-based country.

    In this episode, Dart and Adrian discuss:
    - What it means to be Head of Culture and Integrity
    - Creating the first country on the internet
    - Building a social safety net
    - Overcoming obstacles when creating company culture
    - Why every company needs a value structure
    - SafetyWing’s values and how they’re lived out within the company
    - Why we should doubt the things we learn
    - The value in taking risks and making mistakes
    - And other topics…

    Adrian Salazar is the Head of Culture and Integrity at SafetyWing, a company pioneering the concept of the first internet-based country to offer equal opportunities worldwide. SafetyWing is working to create a global safety net, offering insurance, healthcare, retirement options, and income protection to nomads, remote workers, and individuals around the world.

    Adrian graduated from Tancsics Mihaly Secondary School of Economics in Salgotarjan, Hungary, and also holds a certification in Teaching English as a Foreign Language (TEFL). With a background in user experience, design, and administration, he previously served as Head of Brand at Mealco and Head of Design at both Selva and Kensium Solutions.

    Resources mentioned:
    The Core Value Equation, by Darius Mirshahzadeh: https://www.amazon.com/Core-Value-Equation-Framework-Limitless/dp/1544506708

    Connect with Adrian:
    www.SafetyWing.com
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/theadriansalazar/ 

    • 51 min
    Longpath: An Antidote to the Short-Termism Plaguing Our Companies and Culture | Ari Wallach

    Longpath: An Antidote to the Short-Termism Plaguing Our Companies and Culture | Ari Wallach

    For hundreds of years, Western culture has emphasized individualism, mirrored by many companies’ focus on quarterly profits. After seeing the limitations of this short-term thinking, futurist Ari Wallach decided to forge a new path through Longpath Labs. By focusing on generational empathy, Longpath’s work connects with past generations while simultaneously creating a legacy for future ones, fostering innovation and sustainable success.

    Ari Wallach is a futurist, social systems strategist, author, and founder of Longpath Labs, a leading think tank addressing long-term thinking and systemic issues to create a more sustainable and equitable future.

    In this episode, Dart and Ali discuss:
    - Using history and predictions to create innovation and community
    - The megatrends that Longpath tracks and why
    - The pros and cons of long-path thinking versus short-path
    - Transgenerational empathy
    - How to create a meta-cultural perspective within a company
    - What the long-path crowd thinking about the next 1000 years
    - And other topics…

    Ari Wallach is a futurist, social systems strategist, author, and founder of Longpath Labs, a leading think tank addressing long-term thinking and systemic issues to create a more sustainable and equitable future. Ari’s captivating TED Talk on Longpath has captivated audiences with over 2.5 million times and translations into 19 languages. Additionally, he is also the host of “A Brief History of the Future” on PBS and holds a board position at the Bologna Business School in Italy.

    Ari earned his BA in Peace and Conflict Studies from UC Berkeley. Before leading Longpath, Ari established and led Synthesis Corp., a strategic innovation consultancy serving clients like CNN, Volkswagen Global, and the US State Department. He is also a former adjunct associate professor at Columbia University, where he lectured on innovation, AI, and the future of governance.

    Resources mentioned:
    Longpath, by Ari Wallach: https://www.amazon.com/Longpath-Becoming-Ancestors-Antidote-Short-Termism/dp/0063068737
    American Nations, by Colin Woodard: https://www.amazon.com/American-Nations-History-Regional-Cultures/dp/0143122029
    Who Do We Choose to Be?  by Margaret Wheatley: https://www.amazon.com/Who-Do-Choose-Leadership-Restoring/dp/1523083638

    Connect with Ali:
    www.longpath.org
    “A Brief History of the Future” on PBS: https://www.pbs.org/show/a-brief-history-of-the-future/  

    • 59 min
    The Modern CPO: How I Revolutionized Employee Experience Across 60 Countries and 6000 Employees | Elena Aylott

    The Modern CPO: How I Revolutionized Employee Experience Across 60 Countries and 6000 Employees | Elena Aylott

    When Elena Aylott was asked to lead Global Communications and Employee Experience at Oriflame Cosmetics, she was disillusioned with the traditional, administrative focus of HR. Recognizing the opportunity to drive real change, Elena accepted the role and worked to shift Oriflame towards a new approach. By initiating change and focusing on human-centered work, Elena revolutionized the global employee experience across 60+ countries, impacting thousands of employees and emerging as a champion for people-centric workplaces.

    Elena Aylott is a seasoned executive in People and Communications, the current Founder & CEO of Aylott Group, and the former VP of Global Communications and Employee Experience at Oriflame Cosmetics.

    In this episode, Dart and Elena discuss:
    - The challenges, successes, and future of people-centered CPOs
    - Elena’s experience as a human-centered CPO for Oriflame
    - Addressing policies that create negative employee experiences
    - Creating individualized workplace experiences on a large scale
    - The importance of acts of kindness at work
    - Using language to change work culture
    - How Elena built an HR team with no HR staff
    - The relationship between personal branding, leadership, and community building
    - And other topics…

    Elena Aylott is a seasoned executive renowned for her transformative leadership in People and Communications. As the Founder & CEO of Aylott Group, she specializes in Strategic Community Management and Personal Branding for Experts and Leaders. As the former VP of Global Communications and Employee Experience at Oriflame Cosmetics, Elena revolutionized the global employee experience across 60+ countries, 4500 employees, and 2.1 million independent brand partners. Her initiatives shifted HR and Global Communications, fostering belonging and optimizing business efficiency.

    Elena is also a Business and Leadership Advisor to Wisory, as well as a Certified Leadership Coach for the EuroAcademy Leadership Institute in Stockholm, Sweden. She is a member of the TEDxStockholm Speakers’ team and is proficient in three languages.

    Resources mentioned:
    The Employee Experience Advantage, by Jacob Morgan: https://www.amazon.com/Employee-Experience-Advantage-Employees-Workspaces/dp/111932162X
    The Power of Moments, by Chip and Dan Heath: https://www.amazon.com/Power-Moments-Certain-Experiences-Extraordinary/dp/1501147765
    The Experience Economy, by Joseph Pine: https://www.amazon.com/Experience-Economy-Updated-Joseph-Pine/dp/1422161978
    Mass Customization, by Joseph Pine: https://www.amazon.com/Mass-Customization-Frontier-Business-Competition/dp/0875843727

    Connect with Elena:
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elenaaylott/
    Aylott Group: https://www.linkedin.com/company/aylottgroup/ 

    • 1 hr 26 min
    Unpacking Collective Trauma: What Is It, and How Does It Show up in Our Organizations? | Thomas Huebl

    Unpacking Collective Trauma: What Is It, and How Does It Show up in Our Organizations? | Thomas Huebl

    Thomas Huebl has firsthand experience with the deep-rooted nature of collective trauma. From engaging with Israeli descendants of Holocaust survivors to coaching executives at international firms, he understands just how deeply ingrained collective trauma is in society. For over 20 years, Thomas has been dedicated to leading dialogues on collective trauma across generations, professions, and cultures. His efforts have touched the lives of thousands, fostering reflection, learning, and healing worldwide.

    Thomas Huebl, Ph.D., is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator specializing in collective trauma healing and cultural change within systems. With over two decades of experience, he has impacted over 100,000 individuals worldwide through his teachings.

    In this episode, Dart and Thomas discuss:
    - Trauma and its relevance to companies
    - Key takeaways from the book Attuned
    - How trauma is transmitted through generations
    - Post-traumatic learning
    - Examples of collective trauma
    - How trauma manifests within a company
    - Healing trauma and contributing to a collective good
    - What it feels like to work in a healthy company
    - And other topics…

    Thomas Huebl, Ph.D., is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator specializing in collective trauma healing and cultural change within systems. With over 20 years of experience, he has impacted over 100,000 individuals worldwide through his teachings. His authored works, including Attuned, The Power of We, and Healing Collective Trauma, have gained widespread recognition, including being featured in Oprah Daily’s “10 Books to Help with Old, Painful Traumas.”

    As an executive coach and trainer, Thomas leads innovative frameworks such as the Collective Trauma Integration Process. His commitment to trauma-informed leadership is reflected in his founding of The Pocket Project NGO and the Academy of Inner Science. Thomas has also served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, and he is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.

    Resources mentioned:
    Attuned, by Thomas Huebl: https://www.amazon.com/Attuned-Practicing-Interdependence-Trauma_and-World/dp/1649631561
    Healing Collective Trauma, by Thomas Huebl: https://www.amazon.com/Healing-Collective-Trauma-Integrating-Intergenerational/dp/B08N5CQWRC
    The Power of We, by Thomas Huebl: https://www.amazon.com/The-Power-of-We-Thomas-H%C3%83%C2%BCbl-audiobook/dp/B00PULRE26
    Modern Mystic, by Thomas Huebl: https://www.amazon.com/Modern-Mystic-consciously-conversation-Breidenbach/dp/B09TJRRVGP

    Connect with Thomas:
    www.thomashuebl.com
    www.pocketproject.org 

    • 50 min
    The State of Work: Are People Happier at Work Than We’ve Been Led to Believe? | Juliana Horowitz

    The State of Work: Are People Happier at Work Than We’ve Been Led to Believe? | Juliana Horowitz

    In a world where headlines often drown out research and analysis, the Pew Research Center stands out through its comprehensive studies and analyses. From demographics to societal issues, Associate Director of Research Juliana Horowitz helps us explore the facts behind American workplace trends.

    Dr. Juliana Horowitz is the Associate Director of Research at Pew Research Center. She has over fifteen years of experience in designing and managing both domestic and international survey projects, covering a wide range of social issues from workplace culture to political landscapes.

    In this episode, Dart and Juliana discuss:
    - The mission of the Pew Research Center
    - Work trends during the COVID pandemic
    - Selecting research focus areas
    - How Americans view their jobs
    - Why Americans quit during the Great Resignation
    - How the pandemic reshaped work in America
    - And other topics…

    Dr. Juliana Menasce Horowitz serves as the Associate Director of Research at Pew Research Center, a distinguished and nonpartisan research organization known for its rigorous methodology and comprehensive studies. With over fifteen years of experience designing and managing survey projects, Juliana is involved in all stages of the research process, from spearheading major survey initiatives to analyzing poll data. Her research portfolio covers a wide range of social issues including racial attitudes, gender equality, the culture of work, the changing American family, and economic well-being.

    Juliana holds a doctorate in political science from the University of Maryland at College Park. Before joining the Pew Research Center, she also contributed to the Center for American Politics and Citizenship at the University of Maryland.

    Resources mentioned:
    “How Americans View Their Jobs,” by Juliana Horowitz: https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2023/03/30/how-americans-view-their-jobs/
    “Majority of workers who quit a job in 2021 cite low pay, no opportunities for advancement, feeling disrespected,” by Juliana Horowitz: https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2022/03/09/majority-of-workers-who-quit-a-job-in-2021-cite-low-pay-no-opportunities-for-advancement-feeling-disrespected/
    “COVID-19 Pandemic Continues To Reshape Work in America,” by Juliana Horowitz: https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2022/02/16/covid-19-pandemic-continues-to-reshape-work-in-america/

    Connect with Juliana:
    Pew Research Center: https://www.pewresearch.org/staff/juliana-menasce-horowitz/
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/julianahorowitz/ 

    • 51 min
    Psychological Design: How Environments Predict Our Psychology, Behavior, and Ability to Thrive | Jan Golembiewski

    Psychological Design: How Environments Predict Our Psychology, Behavior, and Ability to Thrive | Jan Golembiewski

    Every building comes with a set of expectations. Students are quiet in a library, but loud on a playground. Adults are focused in their deckchairs yet chatty on bar stools. Witnessing the limitations of conventional building design, Jan Golembiewski began to leverage design psychology to improve the lives of different groups, from inmates to the elderly. As one of the world’s leading researchers in architectural design psychology, Dr. Golembiewski works to create spaces that prioritize health and overall flourishing.

    Dr. Jan Golembiewski is the director and nominated architect of Psychological Design, as well as the co-founder and CEO of Earthbuilt Technology. Dr. Golembiewski is committed to understanding how the built environment impacts human health and well-being, conducting extensive research on the intersection of design and psychology and salutogenic design.

    In this episode, Dart and Jan discuss:
    - A unique design approach called salutogenesis
    - Designing a workplace where employees can thrive
    - Salutogenic architecture 
    - Balancing affordances and choices in design
    - The narrative context embedded in architecture
    - How money-driven architecture affects livability
    - The key traits of salutogenic architects
    - And other topics…

    Dr. Jan Golembiewski is one of the world’s leading researchers in architectural design psychology. He is the director and nominated architect of Psychological Design, as well as the co-founder and CEO of Earthbuilt Technology. Dr. Golembiewski is committed to understanding how the built environment impacts human health and well-being, conducting extensive research on the intersection of design and psychology. Through his work on salutogenic design psychology, he creates spaces that encourage not only productivity but individual flourishing.

    Dr. Golembiewski received his Ph.D. in architecture from the University of Sydney. He currently serves as an editorial board member for the Prudence Journal of Medicine and Medical Science and The Rangsit Journal of Social Sciences and Humanities. His work has earned him a fellowship in the Centre for Urban Design and Mental Health, and he is the only designer hired by the Schizophrenia Research Institute.

    Resources mentioned:
    “The Art of Transformation: Experience Design for Transformative Experiences | Claus Raasted and Paul Bulencea.” Work for Humans. August 2023.
    The Battle for the Life and Beauty of the Earth, by Christopher Alexander: https://www.amazon.com/Battle-Life-Beauty-Earth-World-Systems/dp/0199898073

    Connect with Jan:
    www.psychological.design
    Google Scholar: https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=vwuUGOkAAAAJ&hl=en&oi=ao
    Magic, by Jan Golembiewski: https://www.amazon.com/Magic-Jan-Golembiewski-ebook/dp/B07J5RNFWV 

    • 1 hr 7 min

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