Behaviour Speak with Ben Reiman

Ben Reiman

Welcome to Behaviour Speak, where we celebrate the diversity of human behaviour and explore the many factors that shape who we are.

  1. Rethinking Behaviour Support for PDA

    3 hrs ago

    Rethinking Behaviour Support for PDA

    What happens when the very strategies behaviour analysts are taught to rely on become part of the problem? In this episode of Behaviour Speak, Ben Reiman welcomes BCBA Michelle Karren for a thoughtful discussion about PDA (commonly known as Pathological Demand Avoidance), autonomy-focused learners, and the challenges families face when traditional intervention approaches aren't working. Drawing on both professional expertise and lived experience as a parent of autistic children, Michelle shares how she became increasingly focused on supporting learners whose intense drive for autonomy, anxiety, and demand sensitivity require a fundamentally different approach. Together, Ben and Michelle explore: • What PDA is and how it differs from typical demand avoidance • The shift from "Pathological Demand Avoidance" toward more respectful language such as "Persistent Drive for Autonomy" and "autonomy-focused learners" • Why traditional behaviour support strategies can unintentionally increase stress and resistance • The role anxiety and nervous system regulation play in PDA profiles • Burnout experienced by learners, caregivers, and support teams • School challenges, masking, and the high rates of school-related stress among PDA learners • The importance of rapport, trust, assent, and shared control • Why role play and learner-led activities can be powerful tools for skill development • Supporting emotional regulation instead of focusing solely on compliance • Caregiver collaboration and helping families identify meaningful quality-of-life goals • The value of interdisciplinary collaboration and learning from professionals outside behaviour analysis • How behaviour analysts can remain evidence-informed while adapting their practice to meet individual learner needs Michelle challenges practitioners to remember that behaviour analysis is not defined by rigid procedures, but by careful observation, responsiveness, and a commitment to understanding what learners are communicating through their behaviour. Whether you're new to PDA or looking to deepen your understanding of autonomy-focused approaches, this episode offers practical insights and important reflections for anyone supporting neurodivergent learners. Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/Ble7W3G104w Continuing Education Credits (https://www.cbiconsultants.com/shop) BACB: 1.5 Learning IBAO:  1.5 ABA Topics QABA: 1.5 General CBA/CPD: 1.5 Learning   Follow us! Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/behaviourspeak/ LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/behaviourspeak/ TikTok:  https://www.tiktok.com/@behaviorspeak   Contact Michelle Karren LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/michelle-karren-m-sc-bcba-433716273/ Related Behaviour Speak Episodes Episode 262, Motivational Interviewing for Behaviour Analysts with Dr. Monica Gilbert https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-261-motivational-interviewing-for-behaviour-analysts-with-dr-monica-gilbert/ Episode 179, Reforming ABA: A Framework for Behavior Analysts with Oswin Latimer and Hilary McClinton. https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-179-reforming-aba-a-framework-for-behavior-analysts/ Episode 34, Neurodiversity, ADHD, and ODD with Amelia Bowler https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-34-neurodiversity-adhd-and-odd-with-amelia-bowler-mads-bcba/

    1h 28m
  2. The Evolution of Behaviour Analysis in Australia

    3d ago

    The Evolution of Behaviour Analysis in Australia

    What does it take to build and advance a profession while simultaneously running a busy clinical practice, leading a national organization, and completing a PhD? In this episode, Ben Reiman welcomes Niesha Illingworth for a wide-ranging conversation about the current state—and future—of behaviour analysis in Australia. Drawing on nearly twenty years of clinical experience, Niesha reflects on how the profession has evolved, the ongoing challenges surrounding public perception of ABA, and the importance of strong professional leadership during periods of significant policy change. The conversation explores Australia's unique model of professional self-regulation, the work of ABA Australia to strengthen certification and public trust, and the opportunities and challenges created by changing disability funding systems. Niesha also discusses her doctoral research evaluating the Balance Program, an innovative parent-implemented early intervention designed to prevent the development of severe problem behaviour before it begins. Beyond systems and policy, Ben and Niesha examine culturally responsive practice, supporting Indigenous families, collaboration across professions, and why effective advocacy is becoming an increasingly important skill for behaviour analysts. Throughout the conversation, Niesha demonstrates how science, compassion, and systems thinking can work together to improve outcomes for children, families, and the profession itself. Check out Behaviour Analysis In The First Nation Communities of Australia with Deb Fernando https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-148-behaviour-analysis-in-first-nation-communities-of-australia/ Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/Hs5gjgQLMxg Continuing Education Credits (https://www.cbiconsultants.com/shop) BACB: 1.0 Ethics IBAO:  1.0 Cultural QABA: 1.0 Ethics CBA/CPD: 1.0 Cultural Diversity   Follow us! Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/behaviourspeak/ LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/behaviourspeak/ TikTok:  https://www.tiktok.com/@behaviorspeak   Contact Niesha Illingworth LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/niesha-illingworth-516859141/ Bright Eyes Clinic https://beei.com.au/ Links: Association for Behaviour Analysis Australia https://auaba.com.au/ Related Behaviour Speak Episodes The Balance Program https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-3-parent-coaching-with-esdm-and-the-balance-program-with-maria-sample-ma-bcba/ Family Centred PBS https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-43-family-centred-positive-behaviour-support-with-dr-joseph-lucyshyn-phd-bcba-d-part-1/ The Constructional Approach Madhura Deshpande https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-252-applications-of-the-constructional-approach-with-dr-madhura-deshpande/ Oliver Roschke and John Wooderson https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/beyond-behaviour-reduction-reclaiming-the-constructional-approach-in-pbs-with-oliver-roschke-john-wooderson/

    1h 16m
  3. ABA En Contextos Hospitalarios y Neurológicos con Dra. Aida Tarifa Rodriguez

    Jun 23

    ABA En Contextos Hospitalarios y Neurológicos con Dra. Aida Tarifa Rodriguez

    Aida nos comparte su experiencia aplicando los principios del análisis aplicado de la conducta (ABA) en contextos clínicos y hospitalarios, trabajando con personas que presentan afasia, lesiones cerebrales adquiridas y esclerosis lateral amiotrófica (ELA). Exploramos cómo el ABA puede integrarse con otras disciplinas de la salud para apoyar la rehabilitación, la comunicación y la calidad de vida de personas con necesidades complejas.   Si te interesa descubrir aplicaciones innovadoras del ABA y conocer cómo nuestra ciencia puede contribuir en áreas como la neurología, la rehabilitación y la terapia del lenguaje, este episodio es para ti.   Ver en YouTube: https://youtu.be/XBPb0ug6OSc Créditos de Educación Continua/CEUs (https://www.cbiconsultants.com/shop) BACB: 1.0 Learning IBAO: 1.0 ABA Topics QABA: 1.0 General CBA: 1.0 Learning Contacto: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/aidatarifarodriguez/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aida-tarifa-rodr%C3%ADguez-phd-bcba-d-1b777230/ Pagina web: https://www.nalaysuanalistadeconducta.com/   Natalia Flórez Marín https://www.linkedin.com/in/natalia-fl%C3%B3rez-mar%C3%ADn-943914104/   Para conocer más sobre el trabajo de la Dra. Aida Tarifa Rodriguez: Escucha su podcast:  https://open.spotify.com/show/3Fw7ITTbPmtLc5ezct3GqK?si=d97dd7facc074b2c Links y Recursos: Referencia: Virues-Ortega, J., Pérez-Bustamante Pereira, A., Martin, N., Moeyaert, M., Krause, P. A., Tarifa-Rodriguez, A., Trujillo, C., & Sivaraman, M. (2023). Reducing face touching through haptic feedback: A treatment evaluation against fomite-mediated self-infection. Journal of Applied Behavior Analysis, 56(3), 549–564. https://doi.org/10.1002/jaba.996     No te pierdas estos otros episodios de Behaviour Speak en español: https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/ep-253-analisis-aplicado-dela-conducta-enargentinaconelizabethlopezmirandalicfonoaudiologiabcaba-iba-conla-presentadora-invitadajessie-arroyave-med/   https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/ep-233-analisis-aplicado-de-la-conducta-en-colombia-con-johanna-avila-meza-msc-iba/

    1h 9m
  4. Neurodivergent Youth in Juvenile Justice: Breaking the School-to-Prison Pipeline

    Jun 19

    Neurodivergent Youth in Juvenile Justice: Breaking the School-to-Prison Pipeline

    How do neurodivergent youth experience schools, juvenile justice systems, and the adults responsible for supporting them? In this episode, Ben Reiman is joined by Dr. Larome Myrick, Executive Director of Youth Justice for the State of Rhode Island, and Anthony Bronaugh Sr., BCBA, educator, and former school principal. Drawing on decades of experience in corrections, education, and behaviour analysis, they explore how neurodivergent youth have historically been misunderstood, mislabeled, and underserved. The conversation examines the intersection of behaviour analysis, trauma-informed care, juvenile justice, and education while highlighting practical ways systems can move beyond punishment-based approaches. Larome and Anthony discuss the realities of correctional classrooms, the importance of early identification and support, how stigma continues to impact families and communities, and why collaboration across systems is essential. They also share their vision for creating environments where neurodivergent youth are understood, supported, and given opportunities to thrive. Whether you're a behaviour analyst, educator, school administrator, social worker, policymaker, or parent, this episode offers valuable insights into building more responsive and humane systems for young people. Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/bOxkDthDgFg Continuing Education Credits (https://www.cbiconsultants.com/shop) BACB: 1.5 Learning IBAO:  1.5 ABA Topics QABA: 1.5 General CBA/CPD: 1.5 Learning   Follow us! Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/behaviourspeak/ LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/behaviourspeak/ TikTok:  https://www.tiktok.com/@behaviorspeak   Contact Dr. Larome Myrick https://www.linkedin.com/in/laromemyrick/ Contact Anthony Bronaugh, Sr. https://www.linkedin.com/in/anthony-bronaugh-sr-m-ed-bcba-coba-747139211/

    1h 41m
  5. From Invisibility To Belonging: When Indigenous Students Finally Feel Seen with Mikala Chee, Sanoe Rapozo, and Abbey Woldt

    Jun 5

    From Invisibility To Belonging: When Indigenous Students Finally Feel Seen with Mikala Chee, Sanoe Rapozo, and Abbey Woldt

    In episode 273 of Behaviour Speak, we’re joined by Mikala Chee of the Diné (Navajo) Nation, Sanoe Rapozo, a Native Hawaiian,  and Abbey Woldt of the Ho-Chunk Nation—three Indigenous undergraduate scholars whose work spans nursing, psychology, and neuroscience. Together, they share their journeys into higher education, the challenges of navigating predominantly Western academic systems, and their collaboration on a community research team (CRT) mentored by Dr. Anna Fetter and focused on developing culturally grounded measures of stress and mental health for Indigenous college students. This conversation explores what happens when Indigenous students not only enter academia—but begin to reshape it. Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/r4guaLEQhi0 Follow us! Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/behaviourspeak/ LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/behaviourspeak TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@behaviorspeak Connect with Mikala LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikala-chee-14b36b387/ Links:  All Our Kin  https://www.instagram.com/allourkincollective/ SPEx Lab at Fort Lewis College https://faculty.fortlewis.edu/amborgella/SPExLab/ Dr. Melissa Teehee's Tohi Lab https://www.tohilab.org/ Connect with Sanoe LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sanoe-rapozo/ Links: The Past before Us: Moʻokūʻauhau as Methodology https://uhpress.hawaii.edu/title/the-past-before-us-mo%CA%BBoku%CA%BBauhau-as-methodology/ Native American Indigenous Student Alliance https://duke.campusgroups.com/naisa/home/ Karsh STEM Fellowship https://undergrad.duke.edu/intellectual-community/student-faculty-engagement-office/karsh-stem-program/karsh-stem-scholars/ Connect with Abbey LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/abbey-woldt-8b09a0350/ Links: https://teachlearn.wisc.edu/first-nations-cultural-landscape-tour/ UW Madison Native American Center for Health Professions https://nachp.med.wisc.edu/ The Society For Indian Psychologists: https://www.nativepsychs.org/ Native-to-Native Mentorship Program in Psychology https://www.nativepsychs.org/sip-mentorship-program Related Episodes: Mentorship as Medicine with Dr. Anna Kawennison Fetter https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/mentorship-as-medicine-with-anna-kawennison-fetter-phd-edm/ Cultural Responsiveness in ABA:  A Hawaiian Perspective with Dr. Naomi Tachera and Dr. Sara Sato https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-245-cultural-responsiveness-in-aba-a-hawaiian-perspective-with-dr-naomi-tachera-and-dr-sara-sato/ Indigenous School Psychology with Dr. Lisa Aguilar, Bryanna Kinilicheene, and Wamnuga Win https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-107-indigenous-school-psychology-with-lisa-aguilar-bryanna-kinilicheene-and-wamnuga-win-kiva-sam/

    1h 37m
  6. Beyond the 5.83%: Advancing Black Representation in ABA with Dr. Danielle Jeudy and Dr. Jewel Parham

    May 29

    Beyond the 5.83%: Advancing Black Representation in ABA with Dr. Danielle Jeudy and Dr. Jewel Parham

    In this episode, I’m joined by Dr. Jewel Parham and Dr. Danielle Jeudy to explore representation, mentorship, and systemic change in behaviour analysis. Grounded in their work ACTing for Change, we unpack how values-driven action and organizational accountability can move the field beyond awareness into meaningful change. We discuss the realities behind the statistic that only ~5.83% of BCBAs identify as Black, and how that impacts access to mentorship, supervision, leadership, and opportunity. The conversation dives into the distinction between mentorship and sponsorship, the importance of building pipelines—not just hiring—and why sustainable systems matter more than performative equity efforts. We also explore emotional and cultural labour, barriers to supervision, and how ACT principles can guide organizations toward measurable, values-aligned change. Register for the BABA Conference to see both of Dr. Parham's and Dr. Jeudy's presentations live or online! https://babainfo.org/convention/   Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/UvFs0oNVbi4 Continuing Education Credits (https://www.cbiconsultants.com/shop) BACB: 1.0 Supervision IBAO:  1.0 Supervision QABA: 1.0 Supervision CBA/CPD: 1.0 Supervision Follow us! Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/behaviourspeak/ LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/behaviourspeak TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@behaviorspeak Connect with Danielle Dr. Danielle Jeudy at Navigate Behavioral Health https://www.navigatebh.com/ LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielle-s-jeudy-phd-bcba-d-lba-14a69b3a/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/behaviordj/ Connect with Jewel LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drjewelparham/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dr.behaviorjawn/ Related Episodes: Building Community in Behaviour Analysis with Dr. Jewel Parham https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-223-building-community-in-behavior-analysis-with-dr-jewel-parham Colorism in Context with Dr. Danielle Jeudy https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-224-colorism-in-context-with-dr-danielle-jeudy/ Training the Next Generation of Black Behaviour Analysts at Florida A&M University https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-237-an-hbcu-first-training-the-next-generation-of-black-behavior-analysts-at-florida-am-university/

    1h 26m
  7. Why ABA Systems Break (and How to Fix Them) with Michael Conteh, BCBA, SSBB, PCC

    May 26

    Why ABA Systems Break (and How to Fix Them) with Michael Conteh, BCBA, SSBB, PCC

    What if the biggest problem in ABA isn’t the client—but the system? In this episode, Ben sits down with Michael Conteh to unpack the hidden forces shaping burnout, turnover, and growth in ABA organizations. Drawing from decades of experience scaling a company and consulting across the field, Michael breaks down why traditional clinical thinking alone isn’t enough—and how leaders can evolve to meet the complexity of modern ABA.   Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/Zgld4ZvRgR8 Continuing Education Credits (https://www.cbiconsultants.com/shop) BACB: 1.0 Supervision IBAO:  1.0 Supervision QABA: 1.0 Supervision CBA/CPD: 1.0 Supervision Follow us! Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/behaviourspeak/ LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/behaviourspeak TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@behaviorspeak   Connect with Michael  https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-conteh-bcba/ https://www.balancecoachingconsulting.com/ https://www.parentempowermentcoaching.com/   Related Episodes: Forging Black Leaders in Behaviour Analysis with Portia James https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-142-creating-a-powerhouse-forging-black-leaders-in-behavior-analysis/ The Next Generation of Black Leaders in Behaviour Analysis with Adrienne Bradley https://www.behaviourspeak.com/e/episode-76-the-next-generation-of-black-leaders-in-behavior-analysis-empowering-success-with-adrienne-bradley-med-bcba-lba/

    1h 16m
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