Outsmart Burnout: The Podcast for High-Achieving Women with Dr. Zarya Rubin

Dr. Zarya Rubin, MD - Physician & Burnout Expert
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You're smart, driven, and accomplished — but you're exhausted. Not the kind of tired that a good night's sleep fixes. The kind that makes you wonder how much longer you can keep going at this pace, and whether the life you've built is actually the life you want. Welcome to Outsmart Burnout. I'm your host, Dr. Zarya Rubin — a Harvard-educated physician, TEDx speaker, burnout expert, and recovering overachiever — this show is for high-achieving women who are done white-knuckling their way through life and ready to reclaim their passion, purpose, and joy. As a physician who burned out in medicine and found my way back to personal and professional success, I don't just study burnout - I've lived it. Each week, I invite expert guests to dive into the real conversations high-achieving women need most: the science of burnout and nervous system regulation, the identity shifts that midlife brings, the systems and patterns keeping you stuck, and the practical strategies to help you feel like yourself again. Remember, burnout is not your destiny, it's your wake-up call. Listen to my TEDx talk about burnout: https://bit.ly/TEDxBurnout Learn more and work with me: www.drzarya.com Follow along on Instagram: www.instagram.com/drzaryarubin Download your FREE Outsmart Burnout Toolkit: https://drzarya.myflodesk.com/outsmartburnouttoolkit For 1:1 burnout support, check out The Burnout Blueprint! https://drzarya.myflodesk.com/ New episodes drop every Wednesday. Leave us a comment, like, subscribe, download, and share an episode with a friend.

  1. 3 days ago

    Reconnect to Your Purpose - with Dr. Saidie Rodriguez

    GUEST BIO Dr. Sadie Rodriguez is a pediatric cardiac intensivist at Children's Healthcare of Atlanta and an associate professor of pediatrics at Emory University School of Medicine. Her academic work focuses on clinician well-being, professional identity, and coaching-based interventions in healthcare, and she's the founder of Soul Shine, an integrative coaching practice that blends science with deeper meaning. Her heart lives in the human side of medicine — helping clinicians remember who they are beneath the rules, expectations, and relentless pace of healthcare. KEY TAKEAWAYS - Choosing your work on purpose, even briefly and privately, can be more empowering than simply enduring it — Sadie's practice of pausing at the ICU doors to ask "do I want to go in?" turned obligation into an active choice. - Gratitude isn't about bypassing hard emotions — anger and grief still need to be released first, through crying, music, or movement, before gratitude has room to land. - A simple mortality-awareness practice — treating an ordinary moment, like a cup of coffee, as if it might be your last — can restore presence without requiring any change to your actual circumstances. - Reframing "I have to" as "I get to" is a small, almost performative shift, but repeated often enough, it changes how burdensome daily obligations feel. - To start untangling identity from career, ask what your purpose would be if it had to be a verb, not a job title — something like "to connect," "to create," or "to love." - Self-worth often gets quietly outsourced to titles and roles; examining where you actually derive your sense of worth, belonging, and security is a useful place to start disentangling identity from career. TIMESTAMPS 03:24 Dr. Sadie's path into pediatric cardiac critical care 08:24 The gratitude shift: from frustrated over dishes to grateful for health 11:53 The "do you want to go in?" doorway practice 18:41 Gratitude as a practice, not a bypass 22:38 The "last cup of coffee" mortality exercise 26:50 Reframing "I have to" as "I get to" 27:19 Untangling identity from what you do 38:00 Rapid fire round 42:21 "Reconnecting to your purpose starts with... knowing yourself" GUEST CONTACT Free gift (10-minute self-trust activation): soulshine.global/podcastgift Practice: Soul Shine Coaching Connect with Dr. Zarya Rubin, founder of The Afterglow Collective: Website: www.outsmartburnout.com IG: www.instagram.com/outsmartburnout Get your FREE Burnout to Balance Toolkit: https://drzarya.myflodesk.com/burnouttoolkit Book a FREE Consult with Dr. Zarya: https://calendly.com/drzarya/free-burnout-consult Reach out with questions or to book Dr. Zarya for your next event: hello@drzarya.com

  2. 2 Sept

    Is Burnout a Response to a Broken World? with Liz Moyer Benferhat

    Liz Moyer Benferhat spent nearly two decades in sustainable development, grassroots poverty work, and UN-affiliated policy research before noticing that the people doing the world's hardest, most heart-centered work were quietly burning out, with no real language for it. In 2018 she founded We Heal for All, a circle-based model blending neuroscience, storytelling, and embodied practice to help changemakers process the emotional weight of their work instead of suppressing it. Her debut book, When the World Hurts, argues that burnout among people who care deeply isn't a personal failing — it's an unprocessed, entirely rational response to what they're carrying. KEY TAKEAWAYS - Burnout isn't a personal failing — it can be a rational, intelligent response from the nervous system when someone won't slow down on their own. - Helpers and changemakers are often the last to recognize their own burnout because ambition, professional ego, and perfectionism can disguise it as commitment. - Regulating your nervous system (calming it) and processing an emotion (letting it move through fully) are related but different tools — both matter. - "Validate first before you fix": people, and emotions, generally need warm, attuned presence before they need advice or a solution. - Non-core emotions like anxiety and shame often function as blockers that keep people from feeling their actual core emotions underneath. - Culture change doesn't only happen through organizing or activism — it also happens through daily embodiment: how you spend your money, raise your kids, treat the cashier at the store. - Liz's circle model uses guidelines like no unsolicited advice and no crosstalk to create emotionally safe group space for processing collective pain together. TIMESTAMPS 02:36 Liz's origin story and the moment burnout became visible: "you are gray" 07:57 Why helpers are often the last to recognize their own burnout 18:34 Reframing burnout as a rational nervous system response 20:46 Processing vs. intellectualizing emotions 23:00 "Validate first before you fix" and the body brain / emotion brain / thinking brain 24:45 Core emotions vs. blocking emotions like shame and anxiety 30:21 Inside a We Heal for All circle 36:17 Her book, When the World Hurts 45:57 Rapid fire round 52:09 What she wants listeners to remember GUEST CONTACT Website: weHealforall.com Book: "When the World Hurts: Why the World's Pain Makes Sense and What You Can Do About It" (audiobook releasing this October) Connect with Dr. Zarya Rubin, founder of The Afterglow Collective: Website: www.outsmartburnout.com IG: www.instagram.com/outsmartburnout Get your FREE Burnout to Balance Toolkit: https://drzarya.myflodesk.com/burnouttoolkit Book a FREE Consult with Dr. Zarya: https://calendly.com/drzarya/free-burnout-consult Reach out with questions or to book Dr. Zarya for your next event: hello@drzarya.com

  3. 28 Aug

    "Immiguilt" - Serena Arora on Shame, Shoulding and Reclaiming Your Worth as an Immigrant Daughter

    Serena Arora has spent over 25 years teaching Ayurveda and yoga therapy, yet she still burned out completely before writing Unbound, her memoir about recovery. She's dedicated much of her career to guiding transformation, both at her retreat center in Costa Rica and across the globe, helping women reconnect with their bodies through Ayurveda and yoga therapy — addressing burnout, seasonal shifts, and life transitions by teaching them to align with the body's natural rhythms rather than push against them. In this conversation, she introduces the concept of "immiguilt," her term for the inherited guilt she carried as an immigrant daughter, tracing it back three generations to her grandmother's escape from foot-binding in China. KEY TAKEAWAYS - Ayurveda's core principle is balance through opposites — if the body or mind runs cold, dry, hot, or scattered, the medicine is often its opposite quality. - The three doshas map surprisingly well onto burnout culture: Pitta energy ("steam") is driven and perfectionistic — exactly the profile society rewards with promotions and success, right up until it burns out. - "Ama" is Ayurveda's term for toxic buildup from anything not fully processed — undigested food, but also undigested emotional experience or trauma. - A useful daily filter for food, relationships, and habits: does this contribute to the fabric of my well-being, or deplete it? - Recovery from deep burnout isn't linear or fast — Serena's own recovery took roughly four years of rebuilding her nervous system before she felt like herself again. - "Immigilt" — Serena's term for the guilt carried by immigrant daughters across generations, even without a single traumatic event of their own to point to. - Simple, non-negotiable daily anchors, like hot water first thing and a bedtime before 10pm, can matter more than any single big intervention. TIMESTAMPS 04:15 Serena's roots in Ayurveda and how yoga therapy found her 10:07 What Ayurveda actually is: balance through opposites 17:23 "Ama": the toxic buildup of what we don't process 20:09 The three doshas — Vata, Pitta, and Kapha 25:54 Why Pitta energy is exactly what burnout culture rewards 30:44 Serena's own burnout, and the four years it took to recover 41:32 The story behind Unbound and the term "immigilt" 46:57 Rapid fire round 52:49 One thing to do tomorrow morning GUEST CONTACT Website: serenaarora.com Retreat: Costa Rica retreat this October — details on her website Connect with Dr. Zarya Rubin, founder of The Afterglow Collective: Website: www.outsmartburnout.com IG: www.instagram.com/outsmartburnout Get your FREE Burnout to Balance Toolkit: https://drzarya.myflodesk.com/burnouttoolkit Book a FREE Consult with Dr. Zarya: https://calendly.com/drzarya/free-burnout-consult Reach out with questions or to book Dr. Zarya for your next event: hello@drzarya.com

  4. 19 Aug

    The Hedonic Treadmill : Why Achievement Never Feels Like Enough - with Dr. Jeannie Lawrence

    Dr. Jeannie Lawrence spent years looking like she had it all together — a thriving psychiatry career, a new marriage, a beautiful home — while quietly wondering why none of it felt like enough. She and Dr. Zarya trace her slow-burn path into burnout, the light-bulb moment that pulled her out of it, and why "stable" is not the same as "thriving." They dig into the hedonic treadmill, what it really means to disconnect from your body to survive medicine, and the framework Dr. Jeannie uses to help physicians move from surviving to actually feeling alive. KEY TAKEAWAYS - Even positive life changes (marriage, a new job, a new house) are still stressors — hitting your goals doesn't guarantee lasting happiness (the hedonic treadmill). - Physicians are trained to look for solutions outside themselves, when real change often starts internally — "your thoughts create your emotions." - Burnout recovery can't be skipped or bypassed — you can't build a thriving life on top of an unaddressed chronic stress state. - Surviving medicine often requires disconnecting from your own body (skipping meals, bathroom breaks, sleep) — a survival skill that stops working once training ends. - Moving from surviving to thriving means reconnecting with dreams you've put away, getting clear on your values, and building "emotional mastery" — feeling guilt or fear without letting it derail you. - "Stable" and "thriving" are not the same thing — flourishing includes purpose, connection, and flow, not just the absence of crisis. TIMESTAMPS 01:45 Dr. Jeannie's path into medicine 04:00 Discovering psychiatry — "it chose me" 08:35 The slow burn into burnout after residency 14:01 The aha moment: "your thoughts create your emotions" 17:33 The hedonic treadmill and delayed gratification 22:33 Why she added coaching to her psychiatric background 30:52 Survival mode in medicine and disconnecting from the body 39:17 Three steps from surviving to thriving 44:50 Rapid fire round 48:42 "You matter too" GUEST CONTACT Website: jeannielawrencemd.com/sanctuary Also on Substack (her favorite), Instagram, and LinkedIn Connect with Dr. Zarya Rubin, founder of The Afterglow Collective: Website: www.outsmartburnout.com IG: www.instagram.com/outsmartburnout Get your FREE Burnout to Balance Toolkit: https://drzarya.myflodesk.com/burnouttoolkit Book a FREE Consult with Dr. Zarya: https://calendly.com/drzarya/free-burnout-consult Reach out with questions or to book Dr. Zarya for your next event: hello@drzarya.com

  5. 12 Aug

    Be a Facilitator, Not a Fixer - Laurie Maddalena on Sustainable Leadership

    Laurie Maddalena spent years as the "fixer" — the leader who carries her team's entire workload — before discovering the archetype shift that changed her career: becoming a facilitator instead. She and Dr. Zarya unpack why "open door policies" and multitasking quietly fuel burnout, the five-minute practice that ends workday chaos, and how Laurie holds a 40-hour workweek while running a company and raising three kids. They also share a candid conversation about parenting kids with chronic illness and the mantras that help them stay grounded when control isn't an option. KEY TAKEAWAYS - The fixer-to-facilitator shift is the most important transition in leadership — and most people are promoted into it with zero training. - Task-switching (multitasking) increases the time it takes to complete a task by over 500%. - The "open door policy," taken to the extreme, is one of the most burnout-inducing workplace practices — protected, undistracted time is essential. - A five-minute end-of-day practice — naming your top two priorities for tomorrow — reduces mental clutter and lowers stress. - Burnout is often a leadership and systems problem, not just a personal one — vague delegation ("drive-by delegation") sets people up to fail. - Boundaries, like disconnecting fully on vacation, model healthy leadership for the whole team rather than restricting others. - When facing what you can't control, the mantras "be with what is" and "invested yet detached" can help you stay engaged without burning out. TIMESTAMPS 01:53 Laurie's two pivotal leadership moments 09:48 What the "fixer" actually looks like at work 15:00 Banishing the open door policy and multitasking 20:56 The five-minute end-of-day recalibration practice 32:01 How Laurie caps her workweek at 40 hours 41:49 Instilling accountability instead of "drive-by delegation" 48:06 Parenting through chronic illness: "be with what is" 51:29 Rapid fire round 55:04 "Be a facilitator, not a fixer" GUEST CONTACT Website (free Fixer to Facilitator assessment): lauriemaddalena.com Connect on LinkedIn: Laurie Maddalena Connect with Dr. Zarya, The Burnout Doctor: Website: www.theburnoutdoctor.com IG: www.instagram.com/theburnoutMD Get your FREE Burnout to Balance Toolkit: https://drzarya.myflodesk.com/burnouttoolkit Book a FREE Consult with The Burnout Doctor: https://calendly.com/drzarya/free-burnout-consult Reach out with questions or to book The Burnout Doctor for your next event: hello@theburnoutdoctor.com

  6. 5 Aug

    The Burden of Being "The Strong One" - with Dr. Nikia Smith

    Dr. Nikia Smith, board-certified anesthesiologist and founder of She Is Fire Forged, has burned out in medicine not once, but twice — and lived to build a framework for catching it earlier the second time. She and Dr. Zarya dig into the invisible "third shift" (the mental load of kinkeeping that goes beyond housework), the specific toll of being a Black woman in medicine, and why rest without guilt is a skill you have to relearn. It's a candid, funny, and sharply honest conversation for anyone who's been praised for being "the strong one" while quietly running on empty. KEY TAKEAWAYS - Burnout builds gradually ("the simmer") long before it boils over — insomnia, dread, and irritability are early warning signs that get normalized by hustle culture. - Changing jobs alone won't fix burnout if the underlying systems, boundaries, and values don't change too. - The "third shift" — kinkeeping (tracking birthdays, appointments, being the default emotional contact) — is invisible labor that drains women beyond housework and paid work combined. - Recovering from burnout is bigger than rest: it requires rebuilding boundaries, values, and support systems, not just a vacation. - Women physicians have better patient outcomes, work longer hours, chart more, and are paid less — and lose the cardiovascular protective advantage that being a woman typically confers. - For women of color in medicine, microaggressions and covert racism add a compounding layer of fatigue on top of standard burnout. - "Rest without guilt" is a skill: true rest means a quiet mind, not just a still body. TIMESTAMPS 01:58 Dr. Nikia's first burnout in 2021 06:08 The warning signs nobody names 17:05 Recognizing and short-circuiting the second burnout 24:30 The "third shift" and kinkeeping 37:45 Burnout compounded by race and gender in medicine 44:21 Rapid fire round 48:05 "Burnout told me I was broken, but actually I was..." 50:07 What to do in the next 24 hours Connect with Dr. Nikia https://sheisfireforged.com/ Connect with Dr. Zarya, The Burnout Doctor: Website: https://www.theburnoutdoctor.com IG: https://www.instagram.com/theburnoutMD Get your FREE Burnout to Balance Toolkit: https://drzarya.myflodesk.com/burnouttoolkit Book a FREE Consult with The Burnout Doctor: https://calendly.com/drzarya/free-burnout-consult Reach out with questions or to book The Burnout Doctor for your next event: hello@theburnoutdoctor.com

  7. 29 Jul

    The Pattern That Kept You Safe Is The Pattern That's Keeping You Stuck - with Anik Malenfant

    What if burnout isn't about doing too much, but about invisible subconscious patterns running the show? Anik Malenfant — a former corporate finance branch manager turned inner work strategist — joins Dr. Zarya to unpack how the coping patterns that once kept us safe are often the very things keeping us stuck, exhausted, and stalled beneath an invisible ceiling. They dig into brainwave states, the biology of stress addiction, and why identity itself can become the thing high achievers protect at their own expense. It's a science-meets-soul conversation for anyone who's checked every box and still feels like something's missing. KEY TAKEAWAYS - Burnout is a symptom of disharmony — a signal that you're out of sync with who you are, not a personal failure. - The "achieve first, feel happy later" equation is backwards (the arrival fallacy); chasing external goalposts keeps happiness perpetually out of reach. - Coping patterns formed young (like staying quiet to avoid conflict) often resurface as adult burnout behaviors — "the pattern that kept you safe is the pattern that's keeping you stuck." - The subconscious mind operates on a theta brainwave, not the beta brainwave used for conscious affirmations — which is why willpower alone rarely rewires deep patterns. - It takes roughly twelve weeks of consistent practice to anchor a new pattern into your life. - High achievers often protect their identity/labels above all else — and that attachment is frequently what's driving the burnout. - The body can develop something like a stress addiction — extended calm (2-3 weeks) can trigger genuine withdrawal symptoms. - "Neuroneutral" — a state of open, receptive calm distinct from both fight-or-flight and rest-and-digest — may be the real antidote to chronic stress cycling. TIMESTAMPS 01:14 — Anik's origin story: from corporate finance to burnout awakening 04:54 — Burnout as a symptom of disharmony 06:27 — The guidance counselor story: the backwards happiness equation 09:16 — The arrival fallacy and conditional happiness 15:20 — Becoming an "energy sommelier" — reading subconscious patterns 21:14 — Brené Brown, Atlas of the Heart, and fight/flight/freeze/fawn 25:29 — The concept of "neuroneutral" 29:15 — Stress addiction and cortisol withdrawal 31:48 — Brainwave breakdown: beta, alpha, theta, delta 38:01 — Invisible patterns and visible ceilings 41:27 — "The pattern that kept you safe is the pattern that's keeping you stuck" 42:13 — Rapid fire round Connect with Anik ascensionacademy.life subscribe.io/breakthroughblueprint (free "Find My Pattern" quiz) Connect with Dr. Zarya, The Burnout Doctor: Website: www.theburnoutdoctor.com IG: www.instagram.com/theburnoutMD Get your FREE Burnout to Balance Toolkit: https://drzarya.myflodesk.com/burnouttoolkit Book a FREE Consult with The Burnout Doctor: https://calendly.com/drzarya/free-burnout-consult Reach out with questions or to book The Burnout Doctor for your next event: hello@theburnoutdoctor.com

  8. 22 Jul

    The Bridge to Calm: How Movement Regulates the Nervous System - with Lisa Danahy

    Lisa Danahy spent years in corporate HR at a law firm, living in a state of hypervigilance she didn't have language for — until her body and her family life forced a reckoning. In this episode, she joins Dr. Zarya to trace her path from corporate burnout to 20 years running an early learning program to founding the nonprofit Create Calm, and to unpack the idea at the center of her book, Creating Calm in Your Classroom: the adult in the room has to regulate first. Lisa and Dr. Zarya go beyond theory — Lisa leads a live, guided movement sequence (grounding through the feet, breath, and bilateral movement) so listeners can feel, in real time, what shifting out of hypervigilance actually takes. They dig into why stillness alone can't bridge someone from a dysregulated state to calm — movement has to come first — and why "calm" doesn't mean sedated, submissive, or shut down. Lisa redefines it as steady, confident, and aligned. 00:47  Guest introduction — the disruptive idea at the center of the episode: the adult regulates first 02:36  Lisa's origin story — from corporate HR at a law firm to yoga therapist and founder of Create Calm 07:13  Naming the hypervigilance — what "attentiveness" actually felt like in her body 09:12  Why she resisted slowing down even as her body was signaling she needed to 10:09  Cortisol, stress addiction, and why the body craves the striving 12:02  "A reforming people pleaser" — and what happens when the people around you miss your old, over-functioning self 13:03  Live guided movement exercise — grounding, breath, and bilateral movement in real time 19:28  Why hypervigilance can't cross a bridge to calm without a partner of movement 20:47  Redefining calm: steady, confident, aligned — not sedated or shut down 24:17  Building your regulation toolkit before you're in crisis, not during it 27:34  Becoming the witness instead of the participant — and why that takes courage 30:04  Values-driven vs. externally driven living, and its direct link to burnout 33:01  Reframing the stress response as information, not a flaw 43:06  The "team at the table" metaphor for internal awareness and decision-making 44:36  Mirror neurons, co-regulation in a room of crying babies, and "bring the weather" Learn more about Lisa Danahy and Create Calm at createcalm.org. Connect with Dr. Zarya, The Burnout Doctor: Website: www.theburnoutdoctor.com IG: www.instagram.com/theburnoutMD Get your FREE Burnout to Balance Toolkit: https://drzarya.myflodesk.com/burnouttoolkit Book a FREE Consult with The Burnout Doctor: https://calendly.com/drzarya/free-burnout-consult Reach out with questions or to book The Burnout Doctor for your next event: hello@theburnoutdoctor.com

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You're smart, driven, and accomplished — but you're exhausted. Not the kind of tired that a good night's sleep fixes. The kind that makes you wonder how much longer you can keep going at this pace, and whether the life you've built is actually the life you want. Welcome to Outsmart Burnout. I'm your host, Dr. Zarya Rubin — a Harvard-educated physician, TEDx speaker, burnout expert, and recovering overachiever — this show is for high-achieving women who are done white-knuckling their way through life and ready to reclaim their passion, purpose, and joy. As a physician who burned out in medicine and found my way back to personal and professional success, I don't just study burnout - I've lived it. Each week, I invite expert guests to dive into the real conversations high-achieving women need most: the science of burnout and nervous system regulation, the identity shifts that midlife brings, the systems and patterns keeping you stuck, and the practical strategies to help you feel like yourself again. Remember, burnout is not your destiny, it's your wake-up call. Listen to my TEDx talk about burnout: https://bit.ly/TEDxBurnout Learn more and work with me: www.drzarya.com Follow along on Instagram: www.instagram.com/drzaryarubin Download your FREE Outsmart Burnout Toolkit: https://drzarya.myflodesk.com/outsmartburnouttoolkit For 1:1 burnout support, check out The Burnout Blueprint! https://drzarya.myflodesk.com/ New episodes drop every Wednesday. Leave us a comment, like, subscribe, download, and share an episode with a friend.

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