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The other side is dangerously wrong. They think you are too. But for democracy to work, we need to hear each other out. Each week New York Times Opinion columnists David Leonhardt, Michelle Goldberg and Ross Douthat explain the arguments from across the political spectrum. Their candid debates help you form your own opinion of the latest news, and learn how the other half thinks. Find the best ways to persuade in the modern search for common ground.

The Argument The New York Times

    • News & Politics
    • 4.6, 34 Ratings

The other side is dangerously wrong. They think you are too. But for democracy to work, we need to hear each other out. Each week New York Times Opinion columnists David Leonhardt, Michelle Goldberg and Ross Douthat explain the arguments from across the political spectrum. Their candid debates help you form your own opinion of the latest news, and learn how the other half thinks. Find the best ways to persuade in the modern search for common ground.

Customer Reviews

4.6 out of 5
34 Ratings

34 Ratings

oulroseboat ,

Arguments only from the left.

I am center-left and desperate for objective news. This is not where you will find it. 3 people arguing only left wing perspectives. At this rate expect Trump for another four years. Genuinely damaging podcast.

Altweek ,

To Call This an Argument is Categorically Incorrect

This latest episode illustrates the horrendous bias of the show perfectly, in how they see Trump as being a national emergency for being more transparent in his misgivings than previous preseidents. 'Obama did this, but it was behind closed doors and he played the game'. I never thought I'd see the mental gymnastics for this argument to be made. Another favourite was their argument that Obama was more justified in using SOE executive powers for climate change over illegal immigration because it was more real. Read any statistics and you willl see how damaging and dangerous illegal immigration is for those involved in it, if you think its an illegitimate grievance then you are arguing against the facts and the people who gave Trump the mandate to improve border security.

I AM NOT A TRUMP SUPPORTER. I am just in favour of objective reporting, admittance of bias and destruction of hypocricy. This is NOT an argument, it is people sitting in a tiny room agreeing with each other about their irrational hatred of man whom, despite their profession, they can't seem to work out whether he is a strongman authoritarian leader or merely incompetent.

My refrain from expletives is to ensure that this is not removed for reasons beyond reflecting the nature of those who speak on this podcast. I would recommend both changing the name to something more appropriate (Anti-Trump Fan Club could work?) and focussing on one of the myriad other issues your country has at the moment, rather than giving your undivided attention to this man you clearly aren't going to cover objectively.

EvieShawty ,

Thoughtful, genuine attempt at balanced discussion of US politics

What makes this podcast so good is how it defines itself against the many terrible US politics podcasts out there. So many are a painful echo chamber where regardless of party politics the-ends-justifies-the-means theory reigns supreme. These guys make an honourable and genuine attempt at balanced discussion and having Ross as a thoughtful, detailed commentator is crucial. He illustrates they're not interested in perpetuating the 'ridiculous republican' trope or trotting out the resident 'crazy conservative' against which they conveniently define their democratic perfection. Michelle is self-critical and David is a good middle man (with questionable recommendations...) The antidote to the nonsense that is Pod Save America.

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