Follow 2 Lead: A Christian Leaders Podcast

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If you are a faith-driven entrepreneur or executive who wants to lead well without losing yourself in the process, you have found the right place. Follow 2 Lead is a Christian leadership podcast hosted by executive coach Tony Miltenberger, built around one conviction: that following Jesus is what makes you a better leader. Every week, Tony sits down with leaders who are navigating real pressure, building real teams, and bringing their faith into the spaces where it matters most — the boardroom, the staff meeting, the hard conversation you have been putting off. This is not a podcast about easy answers. It is honest conversations designed to help faith-driven entrepreneurs and executives lead with clarity, build cultures worth working in, and stay grounded in who God says they are — not just who their title says they are. New episodes every week. Built for Christian leaders who are serious about growth and ready to lead boldly. Learn more at Tony's Website or Follow 2 Lead Coaching.

  1. 3d ago

    #472: Annie F. Downs — Stop Letting “I Could Never” Make Your Decisions

    What have you already decided you could never do—before you’ve even explored what might be possible? In this episode of the podcast, Tony Miltenberger welcomes back bestselling author, podcaster, entrepreneur, and longtime friend Annie F. Downs for a conversation about vision, leadership, risk, relationships, and what happens when we stop allowing “no” to be our first answer. As Annie prepares to release her new book, Don’t Let That Hold You Back, she shares why hearing people repeatedly say, “I could never do that,” made her start questioning the limits we place on our own lives. Sometimes the door you thought you were heading toward will close—but taking the next step may reveal doors you couldn’t see from where you started. Tony and Annie also get candid about leading through major life change, protecting a God-given vision without softening it to keep everyone happy, surrounding yourself with people who expand your thinking, knowing when to end something that’s still successful, and learning to hold the things you build with open hands. In this episode, you’ll discover: Why softening your vision can actually make alignment harder. What Annie has learned about leading a company while preparing for marriage. How to build a personal “board of directors” that expands your thinking. Why the people you need around you may change as your life changes. How Annie knew it was time to sunset something that was still successful. Why “no” usually shouldn’t be your answer before you’ve explored what’s possible. What Seth Godin taught Annie about leadership, learning, and expanding an idea. How Don’t Let That Hold You Back challenges the stories keeping us from taking the next step. Coaching Question Where have you already told yourself “I could never” without first asking, “Could I?” Connect with Annie F. Downs Annie F. Downs is a bestselling author, podcaster, speaker, entrepreneur, and founder of the That Sounds Fun Network. Her new book, Don’t Let That Hold You Back, releases September 15 and challenges readers to examine what has kept them from becoming who God created them to be. Website: anniefdowns.com Don’t Let That Hold You Back: dontletthatholdyouback.com Integrated Leader Mastermind — Applications Open Strong leaders weren't meant to lead alone. Tony Miltenberger and Trey Tucker are bringing together 12 Christian men for a six-month mastermind focused on growing professionally, personally, and spiritually alongside other leaders committed to doing the same. Learn more and apply: leader-integrated-cohort.replit.app Connect with Tony Miltenberger Website: twmilt.com 12 Questions: follow2leadbenchmark.com YouTube: youtube.com/@twmilt Substack: twmilt.substack.com Instagram: @twmilt | @follow2lead SEEDS Download the free SEEDS app and take one small step today: plant your first seed and see what God can grow. Please check out our sponsor: EBEB Solutions ebebsolutions.com That Sounds Fun Network thatsoundsfunnetwork.com Follow 2 Lead Coaching follow2leadbenchmark.com Apple Podcasts Follow 2 Lead on Apple Podcasts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

  2. Sep 1

    #471: Mark Miller — How to Stop Managing for Today and Start Leading for Tomorrow

    Are you actually leading your organization toward the future—or just getting really good at managing today? In this episode of the podcast, Tony Miltenberger sits down with longtime leadership expert, bestselling author, and former Chick-fil-A executive Mark Miller to talk about two responsibilities leaders can’t afford to delegate: casting vision and creating alignment. Mark explains why so many leaders struggle to articulate where they’re going, why knowing exactly how you’ll get there isn’t a prerequisite for casting vision, and what it takes to get an entire organization moving toward the same preferred future. Tony and Mark also dig into the leadership discipline of margin, the power of storytelling, personal development planning, and the lessons Mark learned through decades of working alongside Chick-fil-A founder Truett Cathy. In this episode, you’ll discover: Why leadership begins with a clear picture of the future. How to create alignment through role modeling, storytelling, and strategic repetition. Why leaders need to delegate today’s work so they can focus on tomorrow’s. How intentional time to reflect, assess, and create strengthens your leadership. Why stories can communicate what facts alone can’t. How to build a personal development plan you’ll actually use. Why identifying your critical gaps should come before simply developing your strengths. Coaching Question What leadership work are you neglecting because the urgent work keeps winning? Connect with Mark Miller Mark Miller is an author, speaker, leadership coach, and former Chick-fil-A executive whose work is dedicated to serving and developing leaders. His latest release is the fourth edition of The Secret, co-authored with Ken Blanchard. Lead Every Day: leadeveryday.comThe Secret: https://a.co/d/02PZvYst Integrated Leader Mastermind — Applications Open Strong leaders weren't meant to lead alone. Tony Miltenberger and Trey Tucker are bringing together 12 Christian men for a six-month mastermind focused on growing professionally, personally, and spiritually alongside other leaders committed to doing the same. Learn more and apply:leader-integrated-cohort.replit.app/ Connect with Tony Miltenberger Website: twmilt.com12 Questions: follow2leadbenchmark.com YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@twmiltSubstack: twmilt.substack.comInstagram: @twmilt | @follow2lead Please check out our sponsors: SEEDS: Download the free SEEDS app and take one small step today: plant your first seed and see what God can grow. EBEB Solutionshttps://www.ebebsolutions.com/ That Sounds Fun Networkhttps://thatsoundsfunnetwork.com/ Follow 2 Lead Coachinghttps://www.follow2leadbenchmark.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

  3. Aug 25

    #470: Monika Kirkland — When You're Called to It but Can't Keep Carrying It

    #470: Monika Kirkland — When You're Called to It but Can't Keep Carrying It What happens when you know God called you to something—but you’re exhausted trying to carry it? In this episode of the Follow 2 Lead Podcast, Tony Miltenberger sits down with author, podcaster, and speaker Monika Kirkland to talk about overwhelm, surrender, spiritual disciplines, and what happens when high-capacity leaders begin relying on their own strength. Monika shares the wake-up call that forced her to reevaluate a very full life. She couldn’t simply walk away from her work, family, or responsibilities. Instead, she had to learn how to carry the same things from a different posture—moving from striving and self-reliance toward surrender and dependence on the Holy Spirit. Tony and Monika also explore storytelling, creativity, discerning God’s voice, navigating seasons when He feels distant, and the message behind Monika’s book, Ever With You. In this episode, you'll discover: How to recognize when you’re white-knuckling your calling. Why “Scripture before screens” can change the way you begin your day. Simple spiritual disciplines for surrendering what you’re carrying. Why feelings are valuable signposts—but shouldn’t make your decisions. How wise counsel can bring clarity when the stakes are high. Why creativity needs both discipline and freedom from pressure. How to trust God’s nearness even when He feels far away. Coaching Question Where are you trying to carry a God-given calling in your own strength? Connect with Monika Kirkland Monika Kirkland is an author, podcaster, and speaker whose work explores intimacy with God and what it means to live an integrated life of faith. Her new book, Ever With You, is about becoming fully awake to the God who is near. Website: monikakirkland.comInstagram: @monikakirkland Integrated Leader Mastermind — Applications Open Strong leaders weren't meant to lead alone. Tony Miltenberger and Trey Tucker are bringing together 12 Christian men for a six-month mastermind focused on growing professionally, personally, and spiritually alongside other leaders committed to doing the same. Learn more and apply:leader-integrated-cohort.replit.app/ Connect with Tony Miltenberger Website: twmilt.com12 Questions: follow2leadbenchmark.com YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@twmiltSubstack: twmilt.substack.comInstagram: @twmilt | @follow2lead Please check out our sponsors: EBEB Solutionshttps://www.ebebsolutions.com/ That Sounds Fun Networkhttps://thatsoundsfunnetwork.com/ Follow 2 Lead Coachinghttps://www.follow2leadbenchmark.com Apple Podcastshttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/follow-2-lead-a-christian-leaders-podcast/id1429933082 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

  4. Aug 18

    #469: Dr. Stephen Graves — You Can't Do It All. Here's What Great Leaders Do Instead

    Here is the application to the Integrated Leader Mastermind. What if the answer to feeling overwhelmed isn't doing more—but getting clearer about what was yours to do in the first place? In this episode of the Follow 2 Lead Podcast, Tony Miltenberger sits down with longtime executive coach, author, and leadership advisor Dr. Stephen Graves to talk about building a life and leadership that flourish over time. After nearly four decades of coaching CEOs, founders, and executives, Steve has learned that great leaders don't try to be great at everything. They learn to distinguish between God-given assignments and good opportunities, surround themselves with trusted voices, make wise choices consistently, and recognize what each season requires. Tony and Steve also explore partnership, learning to say no, managing yourself well, and Steve's countercultural perspective that aging isn't a problem to be solved. In this episode, you'll discover: Why trying to do everything well can keep you from flourishing. How to distinguish an assignment from an opportunity. Why every leader needs trusted voices outside their own head. Why managing yourself is a responsibility you can't outsource. How saying no can affirm your identity and calling. Why aging isn't a problem to solve—and what it means to age well. Coaching Question Where in your life do you need to surrender a little control and realize this isn't a problem to be solved? Connect with Dr. Stephen Graves Dr. Stephen Graves is an executive coach, author, strategist, and founder of Cornerstone Group. Website: stephenrgraves.comCornerstone Group: cornerstoneco.com Integrated Leader Mastermind — Applications Open Strong leaders weren't meant to lead alone. Tony Miltenberger and Trey Tucker are bringing together 12 Christian men for a six-month mastermind focused on growing professionally, personally, and spiritually alongside other leaders committed to doing the same. Learn more and apply:leader-integrated-cohort.replit.app/ Connect with Tony Miltenberger Website: twmilt.com12 Questions: follow2leadbenchmark.com YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@twmiltSubstack: twmilt.substack.comInstagram: @twmilt | @follow2lead Please check out our sponsors: EBEB Solutionshttps://www.ebebsolutions.com/ That Sounds Fun Networkhttps://thatsoundsfunnetwork.com/ Follow 2 Lead Coachinghttps://www.follow2leadbenchmark.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

  5. Aug 11

    #468: Trey Tucker — Why Strong Leaders Still Need Someone in Their Corner

    Who really knows you—not your title, your responsibilities, or the version of you that shows up to lead, but you? In this episode of the Follow 2 Lead Podcast, Tony Miltenberger welcomes back counselor, author, and speaker Trey Tucker for a conversation about what leaders need when the weight of leadership starts to feel heavy. They explore everything from silence and solitude to mentoring the next generation, building meaningful friendships, and surrounding yourself with people who challenge you to grow. Trey explains why our brains need space from the constant stream of information we consume, why leaders may be running from the very thoughts and emotions they need to process, and how even a few minutes of intentional silence can begin to change the way we show up. As Trey puts it, choosing short-term discomfort can lead to long-term peace. Tony and Trey also announce the Integrated Leader Mastermind, a new six-month experience designed to give a small group of Christian men a place to grow professionally, personally, and spiritually alongside other leaders who are committed to becoming more integrated versions of themselves. If you're leading a business, nonprofit, church, school, or executive team, this conversation is a reminder that strength doesn't mean doing leadership alone. The right people in your corner can help you grow faster, lead healthier, and last longer. In this episode, you'll discover: Why silence may be one of the simplest tools for leaders experiencing overwhelm. What happens when we continually choose short-term comfort over processing what's happening beneath the surface. How to tell whether a struggling employee needs more mentoring—or simply isn't the right fit. Why developing other leaders requires both trust and high standards. The three qualities Trey looks for when deciding who belongs in his inner circle. Why even strong, successful leaders need meaningful relationships with people who truly know them. What Tony and Trey are building with the new Integrated Leader Mastermind—and who it's designed for. Coaching Question How are you doing with silence? Take an honest look at where God may be calling you to create more space—and what silence could look like in this season of your life. Connect with Trey Tucker Trey Tucker is a counselor, author, speaker, and founder of Rugged Counseling. Through his work, Trey helps people better understand mental health, relationships, faith, and what it looks like to live a healthy, integrated life. Website: https://www.ruggedcounseling.com Social Media: @ruggedcounseling Please check out our sponsors: EBEB Solutionshttps://www.ebebsolutions.com/ That Sounds Fun Network:https://thatsoundsfunnetwork.com/ Connect with Tony: Follow2Lead Coachinghttps://www.follow2leadbenchmark.com Formed in the Tension Substack: https://twmilt.substack.com/ Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/twmilt/ https://www.instagram.com/follow2lead/ Check out our YouTube pagehttps://www.youtube.com/@twmilt Be sure to leave us a review on Apple Podcastshttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/follow-2-lead-a-christian-leaders-podcast/id1429933082 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

  6. Aug 4

    #467: Eric Geiger on How Most Leaders Misdiagnose Burnout

    What if feeling overwhelmed isn't a sign you're failing—but a sign you're growing? In this episode of the Follow2Lead Podcast, Tony Miltenberger sits down with author, pastor, and leadership expert Eric Geiger to unpack one of the biggest misconceptions leaders face today: burnout and overwhelm are not the same thing. While burnout can drain your passion and purpose, seasons of healthy overwhelm often become the catalyst for your greatest growth. Drawing from his new book The Rooted Leader, Eric shares practical wisdom on building leadership rhythms that help you weather storms, embrace challenges without being crushed, and lead from a place of deep spiritual and personal health. If you're leading a business, nonprofit, church, school, or executive team, this conversation will help you develop greater resilience, steward your influence well, and build the kind of leadership that lasts. In this episode, you'll discover: Why overwhelm can actually be a gift for your leadership. The critical difference between feeling overwhelmed and experiencing burnout. How rooted leaders grow through pressure instead of being crushed by it. Practical rhythms that help leaders sustain influence over the long haul. Why Christian leaders have an "unfair advantage" in the workplace. How protecting your priorities at home strengthens your leadership everywhere else. Coaching Question Is your current season stretching your leadership—or slowly draining it? What would change if you viewed your overwhelm as an opportunity to grow instead of a problem to escape? Connect with Eric Geiger Eric Geiger is the Senior Pastor of Mariners Church in Southern California and the author of The Rooted Leader. He is a trusted voice on Christian leadership, organizational health, and developing leaders who thrive through every season. Website: https://www.ericgeiger.com Book: The Rooted Leader, https://a.co/d/06wgDzVO Mariners Church: https://www.marinerschurch.org Please check out our sponsors: EBEB Solutionshttps://www.ebebsolutions.com/ That Sounds Fun Network:https://thatsoundsfunnetwork.com/ Connect with Tony: Follow2Lead Coachinghttps://www.follow2leadbenchmark.com Formed in the Tension Substack: https://twmilt.substack.com/ Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/twmilt/ https://www.instagram.com/follow2lead/ Check out our YouTube pagehttps://www.youtube.com/@twmilt Be sure to leave us a review on Apple Podcastshttps://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/follow-2-lead-a-christian-leaders-podcast/id1429933082 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

  7. Jul 28

    #466: Tony Miltenberger on Culture Is an Inside Job — Why Great Leaders Don't Let Feelings Drive the Car

    What if your greatest leadership challenge isn't your strategy, your team, or your circumstances—but the story you're telling yourself? In this special episode of the Follow 2 Lead Podcast, we're sharing Tony Miltenberger's guest appearance on the Culture Is an Inside Job podcast. In this thought-provoking conversation, Tony joins the hosts to explore why emotional maturity is one of the greatest leadership advantages you can develop—and how doing the inner work changes the way you lead others. Drawing from his book Wisdom in the Wound, his executive coaching experience, and his own personal journey, Tony explains why feelings are meant to inform us, not lead us. He shares practical tools for recognizing emotional triggers, responding with intention instead of reaction, and building healthier relationships at work and at home. If you're leading a business, nonprofit, church, school, or executive team, this conversation will help you grow in self-awareness, strengthen your leadership, and create a culture where people feel seen, valued, and empowered to thrive. In this episode, you'll discover: Why great leaders don't let feelings drive the car. How unresolved wounds quietly shape your leadership and influence your decisions. Why feelings are decision points—not decision makers. How curiosity and empathy create healthier teams and stronger workplace cultures. Why emotional awareness is one of the greatest leadership advantages you can develop. A practical coaching question to help you lead with greater clarity, wisdom, and purpose. Coaching Question Where was the last time your emotional intensity spiked above a six—and what might that reaction reveal about you instead of the other person? Connect with Tony Miltenberger Tony Miltenberger is an executive coach, speaker, and founder of Follow 2 Lead Coaching. He helps Christian executives, business owners, and organizational leaders build healthier cultures, strengthen trust, and lead with greater clarity and purpose. Website: https://www.twmilt.com Executive Coaching: https://www.follow2leadbenchmark.com Instagram: @twmilt Substack: https://twmilt.substack.com/ Please check out our sponsors: EBEB Solutions https://www.ebebsolutions.com/ That Sounds Fun Network: https://thatsoundsfunnetwork.com/ Follow 2 Lead Coaching https://www.follow2leadbenchmark.com Tony on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/twmilt/ Check out our YouTube page https://www.youtube.com/@twmilt Be sure to leave us a review on Apple Podcasts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

  8. Jul 21

    #465: Building Trust Before It's Tested with Tony Miltenberger

    How do great leaders build trust when their team has been through disappointment, uncertainty, or change? In this solo episode of the Follow 2 Lead Podcast, Tony Miltenberger shares a deeply personal story about a devastating ACL injury that sidelined him for years—and how finally running two miles again revealed one of the most important leadership lessons he's ever learned. The finish line wasn't the victory. The daily decisions, trusted coaches, and consistent investments along the way were. Tony explains why trust isn't built through authority, vision statements, or one-time team retreats. It's built one small, faithful decision at a time. If you're leading a business, nonprofit, church, school, or executive team, this episode offers practical coaching for creating a culture where people feel trusted, valued, and equipped to do their best work. In this episode, you'll discover: Why trust begins when leaders admit they don't have every answer. How vulnerability creates stronger executive leadership. Why healthy team culture is built through everyday conversations—not occasional events. The overlooked leadership habit that quietly strengthens (or weakens) trust. How consistent actions create lasting influence across your organization. One simple question every leader should ask their team this week. Coaching Question What would your team look like one year from now if you started doing the trust work today? Connect with Tony Miltenberger Tony Miltenberger is an executive coach, speaker, and founder of Follow 2 Lead Coaching. He helps Christian executives, business owners, and organizational leaders build healthier cultures, strengthen trust, and lead with greater clarity and purpose. Website: https://www.twmilt.com Executive Coaching: https://www.follow2leadbenchmark.com Instagram: @twmilt Substack: https://twmilt.substack.com/ Please check out our sponsors: EBEB Solutions https://www.ebebsolutions.com/ That Sounds Fun Network: https://thatsoundsfunnetwork.com/ Follow 2 Lead Coaching https://www.follow2leadbenchmark.com Tony on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/twmilt/ Check out our YouTube page https://www.youtube.com/@twmilt Be sure to leave us a review on Apple Podcasts https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/follow-2-lead-a-christian-leaders-podcast/id1429933082 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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If you are a faith-driven entrepreneur or executive who wants to lead well without losing yourself in the process, you have found the right place. Follow 2 Lead is a Christian leadership podcast hosted by executive coach Tony Miltenberger, built around one conviction: that following Jesus is what makes you a better leader. Every week, Tony sits down with leaders who are navigating real pressure, building real teams, and bringing their faith into the spaces where it matters most — the boardroom, the staff meeting, the hard conversation you have been putting off. This is not a podcast about easy answers. It is honest conversations designed to help faith-driven entrepreneurs and executives lead with clarity, build cultures worth working in, and stay grounded in who God says they are — not just who their title says they are. New episodes every week. Built for Christian leaders who are serious about growth and ready to lead boldly. Learn more at Tony's Website or Follow 2 Lead Coaching.

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