From Betrayal To Breakthrough

Dr. Debi Silber

The betrayal of a family member, partner, friend, etc. can create physical, mental and emotional challenges. If left unhealed, it impacts us personally and professionally. The From Betrayal to Breakthrough podcast shares insights from the best therapists, coaches, healers, thought leaders and everyday people, combined with the findings of a recent Ph.D. study on betrayal to help you move forward and heal...once and for all.

  1. 4d ago ·  Video

    480: What Remarkable People Know About Trust, Privacy, and Living with Integrity

    Guest: Guy Kawasaki — Chief Evangelist, Canva · Author · Host of Remarkable People  What happens when one of Silicon Valley's most trusted voices—the man who helped launch the Macintosh and now serves as Chief Evangelist for Canva—sits down to talk about betrayal, broken trust, and what it takes to live with integrity? You get a conversation that's honest, provocative, and deeply human.  In this episode, Dr. Debi Silber is joined by Guy Kawasaki—bestselling author, legendary tech evangelist, and host of the Remarkable People podcast—to explore the life lessons behind his books Everybody Has Something to Hide and Think Remarkable. From why every person needs to think about digital privacy to how billionaires lost their way, this conversation covers it all.  What you'll hear in this episode:  Why "I have nothing to hide" is the wrong test for digital privacy — and what the billboard test reveals about your real exposure  The erosion of institutional trust and why even Apple isn't above scrutiny when fiduciary pressure meets user privacy  Guy's three-part framework for a life well lived: learn, earn, return — and why so many billionaires are stuck in "burn"  The growth mindset, Carol Dweck, and why remarkable people never stop learning (including a story about a 78-year-old PhD student)  Planting seeds: the acorn experiment that became a masterclass in perseverance and probability  Trusting the dots — how Guy went from counting diamonds at a jewelry manufacturer to becoming Chief Evangelist of one of the world's fastest-growing tech companies, without a plan  The valuable + unique matrix: the one framework that explains why the iPod succeeded and why most people stay invisible  What Guy would say to a tech billionaire he ran into at a coffee shop today  Navigating hearing loss as a podcast host — and what it taught him about perseverance  How to make your decision right, not just make the right decision  Books mentioned:  Everybody Has Something to Hide by Guy Kawasaki (available free — see below)  Think Remarkable by Guy Kawasaki  Mindset by Carol Dweck  Grit by Angela Duckworth  Guy's free book offer: Email english@guykawasaki.com for the English Kindle edition, or spanish@guykawasaki.com for the Spanish edition (U.S. only). Outside the U.S.? Download both versions free at guykawasaki.com.  Connect with Guy Kawasaki:  Website: guykawasaki.com  Podcast: Remarkable People (available wherever you listen)  Connect with Dr. Debi Silber and The PBT Institute:  Find your resources at thePBTinstitute.com

    50 min
  2. Jun 22 ·  Video

    479: What 73,500 People Revealed About Betrayal, Recovery, and Why Most Approaches Don't Work

    Today is the day. The State of Betrayal Report — the most comprehensive research publication on betrayal recovery ever produced — is live. And I wanted the people who have been on this journey with me to hear about it here first, not through a social post or an email.  In this solo episode, Dr. Debi Silber walks you through everything the research found: the behavioral impact data, the physical and cognitive symptom findings, the emotional burden numbers, and the one finding that stopped her more than any other. She also shares the three research discoveries that changed how we understand betrayal — and what they mean for anyone who has been through it, anyone who works with people healing from it, and any organization dealing with the cost of broken trust.  If you've been trying to heal and still feel stuck — this episode is for you.  Key Stats from This Episode:  94.7% of respondents are still being triggered by their betrayal  93.6% want to move forward but don't know how  91.67% are hesitant to trust again  96.9% experience at least one physical symptom since their betrayal  82% feel overwhelmed as a consistent baseline state  73% cannot focus · 68% cannot concentrate  99.43% experience at least one emotional symptom  The median commitment to healing among 73,500+ respondents is 10 out of 10  The Three Research Discoveries:  Betrayal is a different type of trauma — and requires a different path to heal  Post Betrayal Syndrome® (PBS®) — a consistent, measurable cluster of symptoms that appears across cultures and betrayal types  The Five Stages of Betrayal Recovery™ — a universal, data-driven pathway from betrayal to transformation  Links Mentioned:  📄 The State of Betrayal Report (free) → thepbtinstitute.com/state-of-betrayal-report  📝 Free PBS® Assessment → thepbtinstitute.com  🎯 Betrayal to Breakthrough: Live → thepbtinstitute.com/live  🎓 PBT® Certification Program → thepbtinstitute.com/get-certified

    26 min
  3. Jun 15 ·  Video

    478: Feeling Better About Feeling Bad: A Philosopher's Case for Dark Moods

    Guest: Mariana Alessandri, PhD — existentialist philosopher, author, and self-described "defender of dark moods"  If you've ever been told to "choose happy," "stay positive," or "look on the bright side" while your world was falling apart — this episode is for you.  Dr. Debi Silber sits down with philosopher Mariana Alessandri to explore why our society's obsession with toxic positivity is actually hurting the people who are suffering most. Mariana, author of a groundbreaking book on dark emotions (covering anger, sadness, grief, depression, and anxiety), brings a refreshing and deeply compassionate philosophical lens to the emotions we're taught to hide, suppress, or apologize for.  In this episode you'll discover:  Why the pressure to "be positive" has an insidious underbelly — and how it turns us against ourselves  The difference between saying "I'm broken" and "I'm in deep pain" — and why it matters  How souls connect more deeply in suffering than in joy (and the philosophy behind it)  The two wolves parable — and why starving the dark wolf may be keeping you stuck  Why anger deserves a hearing, not a judgment — and how it can be a form of self-care  The concept of "sympathetic resonance" and what heartstrings have to do with empathy  Why sharing your pain is a gift — not a burden — and how to find the people you can trust with it  How to talk about your pre-betrayal self with dignity, not shame  Mariana's two takeaways for everyone: It's not your job to cheer people up — and sharing pain is a gift, not a burden.  Connect with Mariana Alessandri:  Website: marianalessandri.com  Instagram: @mariana.alessandri  Resources mentioned:  Night Side of Nature (Mariana's book — chapters on anger, sadness, grief, depression, and anxiety)  Philosophers referenced: Miguel de Unamuno, Audre Lorde, Maria Lugones, Aristotle, the Stoics, Epicureans  The two wolves parable  Susan Caine's concept of "bittersweet"

    45 min
  4. Jun 8 ·  Video

    477: Betrayal, Karma & the 5D Shift: How to Stop Repeating Painful Patterns and Finally Heal

    Guest: Liane Marie Lambert — intuitive guide, energy alchemist, and transformation coach helping people move from karmic cycles into conscious, high-vibration living.  What if everything you've been through wasn't happening to you — but for you? In this episode, Dr. Debi sits down with Liane Marie Lambert to explore some of the most profound (and often misunderstood) truths about betrayal, karma, and human evolution. If you've ever wondered why you keep recreating the same painful experiences, or what it actually means to raise your vibration, this conversation is going to stop you in your tracks.  Liane brings a perspective that's as grounding as it is expansive — weaving together the science of energy, the law of karmic entanglement, and the very real possibility that we are all, right now, in the middle of the greatest evolution humanity has ever witnessed.  In this episode, you'll discover:  What karma actually is — and why the "tit for tat" version you learned is keeping you stuck  The karmic loophole: how you can energetically attract what you don't consciously agree to  Why your body always knows the truth — even when your words don't  How to tell the difference between your ego and your Higher Self  The 3D to 5D shift: what it is, what it feels like, and how to step into it  Why you are already a manifester — just possibly from a low vibration  How to become an alchemist of your own energy and experience  The one thing that will accelerate your evolution faster than anything else  Liane's final message: Trust your intuition. That's where the magic is.  Connect with Liane Marie Lambert: Website & coaching: https://www.lianemarielambert.com/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lianemarielambert_official  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@lianemarielambert  Connect with Dr. Debi  The PBT Institute: https://thepbtinstitute.com

    36 min
  5. Jun 1 ·  Video

    476: From the Olympic Track to Betrayal Recovery

    What do the Olympic Games and betrayal recovery have in common? More than you'd think. In this powerful episode, Dr. Debi sits down with former Olympian and transformational speaker Cherita O'Dell — who represented Barbados in the long jump at the 1996 Atlanta Centennial Games — for a conversation that is equal parts raw, inspiring, and deeply practical.  Cherita's Olympic story isn't the one you'd expect. She qualified with a national record jump made in anger after a frustrating moment with her coach. Then, days before her event, she tore her hamstring in three places on a rain-soaked runway — and watched her own event from the Olympic dorm on TV. It was, as she describes it, "the highest and lowest point of my life at the exact same time."  But what followed — the bounce back, the resilience, the refusal to stay crumpled in the sand — is exactly what makes Cherita's message so timely for anyone healing from betrayal.  In this episode, you'll discover:  The mindset of an elite Olympic athlete and what it teaches us about healing from betrayal  How visualization before action rewires the body's response (and why it works the same way in recovery)  What "Stop asking God to bless your plans — make decisions God can bless" really means, and how to apply it  The danger of letting the "love bug" override your discernment — and what to do instead  Why "You complete me" is the most dangerous thing you can say in a relationship  What true wholeness looks like before entering a relationship  How to use betrayal as a pivot point into your best self  Cherita's framework for post-betrayal growth — mourn it, enhance yourself, stay optimistic, and build filters for future discernment — maps beautifully onto The Five Stages of Betrayal Recovery™. This is one you won't want to miss.  Connect with Cherita O'Dell:  Website: https://cheritaodellspeaks.com/   Book: Good God, Help Me Out — goodgodhelpmeout.com  Connect with Dr. Debi  The PBT Institute: https://thepbtinstitute.com  Watch the episode on Dr. Debi's YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@DebiSilber

    31 min
  6. May 25 ·  Video

    475: Why You're Not Falling Behind — The Truth About Betrayal Recovery

    If you've been feeling like you're losing hope, hitting setbacks, or struggling to set boundaries — this episode is for you. Dr. Debi Silber is pulling straight from her recent coaching sessions to shine a spotlight on three of the most common themes she's seeing right now. And here's the thing: none of them mean you're failing. In fact, they're all part of the healing process.  In this episode, Dr. Debi breaks down:  1. Losing Hope It's one of the most common experiences after betrayal — and one of the most dangerous if left unchecked. Dr. Debi explains why losing hope happens (especially when you're doing the work and your partner isn't), why "what you feed grows," and how her personal "transformation tunnel" technique can help you find evidence of forward movement, even when you can't feel it yet.  2. Setbacks Setbacks aren't signs that you're going backward. Like muscle fibers that must tear to rebuild stronger, the forward-and-back nature of The Five Stages of Betrayal Recovery™ is by design. Dr. Debi unpacks why triggers losing their charge, waves of unexpected grief, and difficult days are actually signs of growth — and how to acknowledge and celebrate them as such.  3. Boundaries Creating a new version of yourself after betrayal requires new boundaries — and new boundaries are never comfortable. Dr. Debi shares why boundaries are non-negotiable as you move toward Stage 4 and Stage 5, how to introduce them in both big and small ways, and why her favorite mantra — hard now, easy later — applies here more than anywhere.  Whether you're rebuilding with someone, healing on your own, or somewhere in between, this episode will help you see your experience with fresh eyes and give yourself the credit you deserve.  Resources Mentioned:  Learn about The Five Stages of Betrayal Recovery™: https://thepbtinstitute.com   Work with Dr. Debi (Private Sessions): https://thepbtinstitute.com/one-session-with-dr-debi/   PBT Certification for Coaches & Practitioners: https://thepbtinstitute.com/get-certified/   Speaking Inquiries: https://thepbtinstitute.com/speaking/   Connect with Dr. Debi Silber:   🌐 Website: https://thepbtinstitute.com  📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/debisilber/   💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/debisilber/   ▶️ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DebiSilber

    31 min
  7. May 18 ·  Video

    474: It's Never Too Late to Reinvent Yourself

    Guest: Dr. Sandra Scheinbaum, Founder & CEO of the Functional Medicine Coaching Academy (FMCA)  From Betrayal to Breakthrough with Dr. Debi Silber  Episode Overview  What does it take to reinvent yourself — not once, but multiple times? In this warm and inspiring conversation, Dr. Debi Silber welcomes her dear friend Dr. Sandra Scheinbaum, a clinical psychologist, functional medicine expert, and founder of the Functional Medicine Coaching Academy (FMCA). Sandy launched FMCA at 65 and is now thriving in her late 70s — lifting weights, dancing ballet and tap, and training other health coaches to change lives. This episode is a masterclass in courage, identity, self-efficacy, and what becomes possible when you stop letting age (or other people's opinions) define you.  Meet Dr. Sandra Scheinbaum  Dr. Sandy Scheinbaum has worn many professional hats across five decades:  Elementary education teacher — pivoted after struggling with classroom management  Learning disabilities specialist — thrived in one-on-one settings  Independent floor trader at the Chicago Mercantile Exchange — a short-lived but clarifying experiment  Clinical and health psychologist — a long, fulfilling career specializing in chronic illness, biofeedback, and mind-body medicine  Functional medicine practitioner — added certification to deepen her clinical work  Founder & CEO of FMCA — launched at 65 to train health coaches in functional medicine and positive psychology principles    What You'll Hear in This Episode  Why failure and "career dead ends" are often the best redirects  How Sandy tuned out the naysayers — including her own husband — and launched FMCA anyway  The role courage, creativity, and community play in reinvention at any age  Why identity is not fixed — and how midlife is a profound opportunity for identity development  Sandy's daily movement routine: strength training, ballet, tap dance, yoga, and "exercise snacks"  How self-efficacy — the belief that your actions matter — is the foundation of health transformation  What happens to self-efficacy after betrayal, and how the right support can restore it  How health coaches trained in positive psychology help clients reconnect with their strengths, purpose, and possibility  The importance of The Five Stages of Betrayal Recovery™ in moving from stuck to transformed    Key Takeaways  Reinvention isn't a detour — it's the path.  Every career "failure" in Sandy's life led her somewhere better. What looked like a dead end was actually a redirection toward greater meaning and purpose.  Your identity is not fixed.  Just as adolescence is a critical period for identity formation, so is midlife. You can try on new identities — athlete, entrepreneur, artist — at any stage of life.  Movement is non-negotiable — but it's personal.  Sandy didn't become athletic until her 70s. She now has more muscle than she did in her 40s. The key isn't a one-size-fits-all plan — it's finding what you enjoy and making it a habit.  Self-efficacy is everything.  The belief that your choices matter — in your health, your career, your healing — is the foundation of transformation. Betrayal often shatters that belief. A skilled coach helps rebuild it.  You can't imagine where you'll end up — and that's okay.  Just as no one could have imagined cell phones or AI, you cannot predict the fullness of what's ahead. The invitation is to start anyway.  The "okay" is the most dangerous place.  When things are fine but not fulfilling, many people stay stuck. The "okay" is what keeps people from reaching for more.  Quotable Moments  "Change is possible. You're never too old. It's never too late. And reinventing yourself is good." — Dr. Sandra Scheinbaum  "When you are changing, you are mobilizing those underutilized parts of you that are tied into having greater meaning and purpose." — Dr. Sandra Scheinbaum  "I train for my future self — so I can lift groceries, put things on the shelf, get down on the floor and get back up again." — Dr. Sandra Scheinbaum  "Nothing good comes from embarrassment or shame." — Dr. Albert Ellis (cited by Dr. Scheinbaum)  "The okay is the most soul-sucking thing." — Dr. Debi Silber    About Dr. Sandra Scheinbaum  Dr. Sandra Scheinbaum is a clinical psychologist, functional medicine practitioner, and the founder and CEO of the Functional Medicine Coaching Academy (FMCA). She launched FMCA at age 65 to train health coaches in the principles of functional medicine and positive psychology. FMCA is now a nationally recognized program receiving top accolades and attracting talented practitioners from around the world. Sandy is also a dancer, weightlifter, yogi, and living proof that reinvention has no expiration date.  Connect with Dr. Scheinbaum  Website: functionalmedicinecoaching.org  Instagram: @DrSandi    Connect with Dr. Debi Silber & The PBT Institute  Website: thepbtinstitute.com  Podcast: From Betrayal to Breakthrough  Book: UNSTUCK: The Practitioner's Guide to Moving Betrayal Clients from Survival to Transformation  Learn about Post Betrayal Syndrome® and The Five Stages of Betrayal Recovery™ at thepbtinstitute.com    If this episode resonated with you, please subscribe, leave a review, and share it with someone who needs a reminder that it's never too late to become who they're meant to be.

    35 min
  8. May 11

    473: 3 Things Betrayal Destroys That Show Up Everywhere

    After recovering from pneumonia, Dr. Debi returned to her microphone with a packed day — five podcast interviews across five completely different audiences. What she discovered was striking: no matter the industry, background, or life stage, three core wounds from betrayal kept surfacing in every single conversation.  In this episode, Dr. Debi covers:  Why she did five back-to-back podcast interviews in one day — and what the experience revealed  The five audiences she spoke with: survivors of narcissistic relationships, women entrepreneurs, health coaches, sales teams, and leaders  The three things betrayal shatters that quietly derail health, business, relationships, and performance — no matter how long ago the betrayal happened  The Three Common Threads:  1. Trust Trust breaks differently depending on the arena — but it always breaks. Dr. Debi explores how shattered trust shows up in future romantic relationships after narcissistic betrayal, in the inability to form collaborative business partnerships, in clients who can't commit to a health plan, in salespeople who can't close, and in leaders who micromanage instead of delegate. And beneath all of it: the moment you stop trusting the person you trusted most, you stop trusting yourself — and your internal compass for discerning trustworthiness feels broken.  2. Confidence A shattered sense of confidence quietly sabotages everything. It keeps narcissistic abuse survivors from attracting healthy relationships. It stops women entrepreneurs from speaking boldly about their businesses. It shows up in health clients through emotional eating, exhaustion, and accelerated aging. It tanks sales numbers. And it undermines leaders who need their teams to feel steadiness and certainty — even in uncertainty. Dr. Debi notes that 47% of everyone who has been betrayed experiences weight changes, often rooted in this same confidence wound.  3. Beliefs Beliefs are the deepest layer — and the most overlooked. Dr. Debi shares her definition: a belief is the repetition of an idea from someone you trust. It doesn't have to be true to become yours. After betrayal — especially narcissistic betrayal with gaslighting — people absorb deeply disempowering beliefs: I'm not enough. I can't. I'll never. These beliefs drive every action, every result, and every ceiling. She walks through how limiting beliefs silently cap the success of entrepreneurs, block clients from following through on health plans, sink sales performance, and create a "stuckness" in leaders who can't break through to the next level.  Key Insight: Rebuilding your life after betrayal is possible — and many people do it. But rebuilding your self — your trust, your confidence, your beliefs — is what moves you from Stage 3 to Stage 5 of The Five Stages of Betrayal Recovery™. That's the difference between functioning and truly transforming.  Dr. Debi Invites You To Reflect:  Where is a lack of trust showing up in your relationships, your work, or your health?  Where has shattered confidence gone unaddressed — and how is it limiting you today?  What "I can't" or "I'll never" beliefs are quietly driving your decisions?  Resources Mentioned:  UNSTUCK: The Practitioner's Guide to Moving Betrayal Clients from Survival to Transformation — Dr. Debi's latest book, with guidance on identifying betrayal clients and the language that actually reachesthem  The Post Betrayal Syndrome® Assessment — taken by over 100,000 people in 50+ countries; 84% of those betrayed report an inability to trust  The Five Stages of Betrayal Recovery™  The PBT Institute.com: https://thepbtinstitute.com     Enjoyed this episode? Share it with someone who needs to hear it. And reach out to Dr. Debi — she'd love to know what resonated with you.

    36 min
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The betrayal of a family member, partner, friend, etc. can create physical, mental and emotional challenges. If left unhealed, it impacts us personally and professionally. The From Betrayal to Breakthrough podcast shares insights from the best therapists, coaches, healers, thought leaders and everyday people, combined with the findings of a recent Ph.D. study on betrayal to help you move forward and heal...once and for all.

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