The Church Revitalization Podcast

The Malphurs Group

Each week, The Malphurs Group team tackles important, actionable topics to help your church succeed in revitalization and leadership. We want to equip your church break through barriers and maximize your impact.

  1. 4D AGO

    Building a Church That Outlasts Your Leadership

    What can medieval cathedral builders teach us about church leadership? Notre Dame took over 200 years to build — surviving wars, plagues, and leadership transitions — yet many modern churches can't survive a single pastoral transition. In this episode, Scott and A.J. explore why so many churches collapse when a long-tenured pastor leaves, and what you can do to build something that lasts far beyond your tenure. Scott Ball and A.J. Mathieu are church consultants and the hosts of the Church Revitalization Podcast, brought to you by the Malphurs Group. Each week they tackle practical, actionable topics to help church leaders and their churches thrive. In this episode: [00:00] The Notre Dame inspiration: what 200-year building projects teach us about church leadership [06:31] The problem: why your church won't survive your pastorate [07:47] Lesson 1: Mission over personality — making your church's identity transferable [10:10] Lesson 2: Distribute the knowledge — eliminating leadership bottlenecks [19:19] Lesson 3: Think generationally — laying foundations for the future [23:05] Action steps: audit bottlenecks, document everything, and test your systems 🔗 Links & Resources: Read the article: malphursgroup.com/328 Free 7-day trial of the Healthy Churches Toolkit: healthychurchestoolkit.com Support our global ministry: malphursgroup.com/donate Check out TapConnect: tapconnect.church (use code TMG10 for 10% off) Connect with us: Facebook: facebook.com/malphursgroup Instagram: instagram.com/malphursgroup YouTube: youtube.com/themalphursgroup X: x.com/malphursgroup

    29 min
  2. FEB 11

    The Hidden Cost of 'Just One More Ministry'

    div]:bg-bg-000/50 [&_pre>div]:border-0.5 [&_pre>div]:border-border-400 [&_.ignore-pre-bg>div]:bg-transparent [&_.standard-markdown_:is(p,blockquote,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6)]:pl-2 [&_.standard-markdown_:is(p,blockquote,ul,ol,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6)]:pr-8 [&_.progressive-markdown_:is(p,blockquote,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6)]:pl-2 [&_.progressive-markdown_:is(p,blockquote,ul,ol,h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6)]:pr-8"> _*]:min-w-0 gap-3 standard-markdown"> Every church leader faces the dilemma: someone brings you an exciting new ministry idea, and it's easier to say yes than to disappoint them. But continuously adding programs creates calendar clutter, burns out volunteers, drains resources, and confuses your congregation about what actually matters. In this episode, we equip you with a practical three-question framework to discern when to say yes to new ministry ideas—and how to gracefully say no when needed. Scott Ball and A.J. Mathieu are church consultants with The Malphurs Group, where they help churches navigate decline, leadership challenges, and organizational health. Through their podcast and consulting work, they challenge conventional church leadership thinking while providing immediately implementable strategies that prioritize kingdom work over member comfort. In This Episode: [00:00] The hidden cost of saying yes to every ministry idea and why calendar clutter is killing your church [08:18] Three filtering questions to evaluate new ministry proposals: mission alignment, existing ministry overlap, and resource optimization [15:07] Walking through real examples: when to say yes, when to replace, and when to pilot-test new ideas [18:41] How to say no gracefully: affirm the heart, redirect the passion, and offer a future path [23:04] Why saying no to good things protects your ability to say yes to the best things Links & Resources: Read the full article: malphursgroup.com/327 Try the Healthy Churches Toolkit free for 7 days: healthychurchestoolkit.com Learn more about TapConnect Use Code TMG10 to save 10%: tapconnect.church Connect with us on Facebook: facebook.com/malphursgroup Follow us on Instagram: instagram.com/malphursgroup Subscribe on YouTube: youtube.com/themalphursgroup Follow us on X: x.com/malphursgroup

    25 min
  3. FEB 4

    Why Churches Struggle to Keep Young Adults (And How to Fix It)

    Churches across America are losing 60-80% of young adults between ages 18-29, and most leaders are trying all the wrong fixes. It's not about being cooler, having better coffee, or upgrading your lights. In this episode, we break down the two real reasons young adults leave your church and give you three actionable fixes you can implement this month to turn things around. In This Episode: [02:00] Why "being cooler" won't solve your young adult problem [04:43] Reason #1: You're not giving them real responsibility or leadership opportunities [09:00] Reason #2: You're not providing authentic community—just programs [15:00] How to build natural connection points instead of more structured groups [21:08] The three questions to ask young adults in your church this week Resources & Links: 📖 Read the full article: malphursgroup.com/326 🛠️ Try the Healthy Churches Toolkit FREE for 7 days: healthychurchestoolkit.com 🌐 Connect with The Malphurs Group: malphursgroup.com Follow us on social media: Facebook: facebook.com/malphursgroup Instagram: instagram.com/malphursgroup YouTube: youtube.com/themalphursgroup X/Twitter: x.com/malphursgroup -- Scott Ball and A.J. Mathieu are church consultants with The Malphurs Group, helping church leaders navigate revitalization, strategic planning, and building healthy ministry systems. Together, they deliver practical, no-nonsense advice to help your church thrive.

    27 min
  4. JAN 28

    Three Signs Your Discipleship Pathway Has Become a Maze

    Your church has groups, classes, Bible studies, and a beautiful buffet of programs—but your people aren't growing spiritually. You're seeing staff burnout, volunteer shortages, and 40% of your congregation still can't quote the Great Commission. The problem isn't lack of activity; it's that you've created a maze of programs instead of a clear discipleship pathway. Scott Ball and A.J. Mathieu are your hosts for The Church Revitalization Podcast, a weekly show from The Malphurs Group dedicated to helping church leaders develop practical strategies for church health and growth. Together they bring decades of consulting experience working with churches across the country to implement effective discipleship systems. In this episode, Scott and A.J. diagnose three critical signs your church has a maze instead of a map. [2:13] Sign #1: Menu vs. Map  [6:28] Sign #2: Members Can't Name Their Next Step  [13:08] Sign #3: Measuring Programs, Not Progress  The episode concludes with practical steps to shift from program-oriented thinking to process-oriented discipleship. Ready to simplify and strengthen your church's discipleship pathway? Get a 7-day free trial of the Healthy Churches Toolkit at healthychurchestoolkit.com, where you'll find Strategic Envisioning training and tools to help you build a clear discipleship process. Connect with a certified Malphurs Group guide at malphursgroup.com to partner with your church in making disciples who make disciples. Follow us on social media: Facebook: facebook.com/malphursgroup Instagram: instagram.com/malphursgroup YouTube: youtube.com/themalphursgroup X: x.com/malphursgroup Read the full show notes at malphursgroup.com/325

    18 min
  5. JAN 14

    Four Communication Breakdowns That Kill Church Momentum

    Clear communication is essential for everything from teaching God's word to casting vision, yet many churches struggle with four common breakdowns that create confusion and stall momentum. In this episode, Scott and A.J. walk through the most frequent communication mistakes churches make—from drowning their congregation in noise to contradicting messages from leadership—and provide practical strategies to communicate more effectively. Scott Ball and A.J. Mathieu are church consultants with The Malphurs Group, helping churches navigate revitalization, strategic planning, and leadership development. With decades of combined experience working with churches across the country, they bring practical, actionable insights to help church leaders build healthier, more effective ministries. In This Episode: [2:06] Over Communicating Everything [6:15] Under Communicating the Important Stuff  [11:30] Leadership Contradicting One Another [19:41] Wrong Medium for the Message  Resources & Links: Read the full article at https://malphursgroup.com/323 Try the Healthy Churches Toolkit free for 7 days: https://healthychurchestoolkit.com Contact The Malphurs Group: leadership@malphursgroup.com Visit our website: malphursgroup.com Follow us on social media: Facebook: https://facebook.com/malphursgroup Instagram: https://instagram.com/malphursgroup YouTube: https://youtube.com/themalphursgroup X (Twitter): https://x.com/malphursgroup

    25 min
  6. JAN 7

    Why Your Church's Values Don't Match Your Budget (And What to Do About It)

    Your budget is the most honest document in your church. While mission statements and value declarations tell you what you aspire to be, your budget reveals what you actually prioritize and fund. In this episode, Scott and A.J. help church leaders audit their budgets to identify misalignment between stated values and actual spending, then provide a practical framework for making strategic shifts over time without creating financial chaos. Scott Ball and A.J. Mathieu co-host the Church Revitalization Podcast, helping evangelical church leaders navigate the practical challenges of ministry. Both serve as consultants with the Malphurs Group, working with churches across the country on strategic planning, leadership development, and organizational health. Their conversational approach combines real-world consulting experience with actionable frameworks that church leaders can implement immediately. IN THIS EPISODE: [00:02:51] Budget Reveals the Truth [00:11:37] Conducting a Values-Based Budget Audit - [00:24:14] The Four Budget Buckets Framework [00:32:56] The Missions vs. Ministry Balance [00:37:39] Taking the Long View on Change  RESOURCES & LINKS: Free 7-Day Trial of the Healthy Churches Toolkit (with new strategic planning & leadership pipeline features): healthychurchestoolkit.com Full Episode Article: malphursgroup.com/322 Connect with The Malphurs Group: Website: malphursgroup.com Facebook: facebook.com/malphursgroup Instagram: instagram.com/malphursgroup YouTube: youtube.com/themalphursgroup X (Twitter): x.com/malphursgroup Let the Malphurs Group help your church with budget alignment, strategic planning, and maximizing your ministry effectiveness. Visit malphursgroup.com to learn more about our consulting services and resources.

    42 min
  7. 12/17/2025

    Church Consultants React to Social Media Christmas Clips

    In this special Christmas episode of the Church Revitalization Podcast, Scott Ball and A.J. Mathieu react in real time to a series of viral Christmas-themed church and Christian videos circulating online. From funny and lighthearted moments to intense theological takes and over-the-top productions, this episode explores how Christians communicate faith during the Christmas season—and how those messages are received by both believers and the watching world.  Scott Ball is joined by co-host and fellow church consultant A.J. Mathieu as they offer candid, unscripted reactions rooted in decades of ministry experience. Together, they discuss pastoral wisdom, cultural engagement, outreach effectiveness, and where well-intended Christmas expressions may help—or hurt—the church's witness.  Chapters [00:00] Introduction [02:15] Pastors, humor, and calling out fruitcake from the pulpit [04:41] "God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen" and why punctuation matters in theology [07:45] Is Christmas pagan? Responding to extreme anti-Christmas arguments [12:44] Cross-shaped Christmas trees and symbolic overcorrections [18:08] "Christmas at the Movies" sermon series—helpful or overdone? [24:20] Mega-church Christmas productions, ticket prices, and public perception [34:12] A deeper look at A Christmas Carol and the dangers of moral rigidity Links & Resources Healthy Churches Toolkit - https://healthychurchestoolkit.com The Malphurs Group - https://malphursgroup.com Facebook - https://facebook.com/malphursgroup Instagram - https://instagram.com/malphursgroup YouTube - https://youtube.com/themalphursgroup X (Twitter) - https://x.com/malphursgroup

    41 min
5
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41 Ratings

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Each week, The Malphurs Group team tackles important, actionable topics to help your church succeed in revitalization and leadership. We want to equip your church break through barriers and maximize your impact.

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