The Church Revitalization Podcast

The Malphurs Group
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Each week, The Malphurs Group team tackles important, actionable topics to help your church succeed in revitalization and leadership. We want to equip your church break through barriers and maximize your impact.

  1. 2D AGO

    Three Ways Being "Nice" is Killing Your Church Revitalization

    Being nice sounds like a virtue, but in church revitalization it can quietly work against you. In this episode, Scott and A.J. walk through three specific ways that avoiding hard conversations and tolerating the wrong things in the name of kindness can stall or even sabotage your church's mission. The goal is not to be harsh, but to lead with the kind of courageous clarity that actually serves your congregation well. Scott Ball and A.J. Mathieu are ministry strategists and consultants with the Malphurs Group, a firm dedicated to helping churches develop healthy, mission-driven cultures. Each week they bring practical leadership insight to pastors and church leaders navigating the challenges of revitalization. Whether you are a longtime listener or joining for the first time, you will find their conversations grounded, direct, and built for real-world ministry. [4:44] Way 1: Tolerating the Wrong People in the Wrong Roles [10:12] Way 2: How Being Nice Can Derail Your Planning [15:53] Softening Fear to Maintain Comfort Only Makes Leading Harder Later [16:00] Way 3: Letting Culture Drift [21:39] The Closing Challenge: Be Strong, Be Kind, and Actually Lead Free 7-Day Trial of the Healthy Churches Toolkit: https://healthychurchestoolkit.com Episode Article: https://malphursgroup.com/341 Facebook: https://facebook.com/malphursgroup Instagram: https://instagram.com/malphursgroup YouTube: https://youtube.com/themalphursgroup X: https://x.com/malphursgroup

    23 min

  2. MAY 13

    How to Know if Your Church Has Expired Vision

    Is your church's vision still guiding decisions and inspiring people, or has it quietly expired without anyone noticing? In this episode of the Church Revitalization Podcast, Scott Ball and A.J. Mathieu walk through three clear signs that a church's vision has gone stale, and they offer practical next steps for auditing and renewing it before it does more damage. Scott Ball and A.J. Mathieu are the co-hosts of the Church Revitalization Podcast and consultants with the Malphurs Group, a ministry dedicated to helping churches develop healthy, strategic frameworks for growth and renewal. Each week they bring practical, field-tested insight to pastors and church leaders who are serious about moving their congregations forward. [4:03] Why overly broad vision statements are a warning sign right from the start [7:48] Sign 1: Nobody in your church can actually explain the vision [9:57] Sign 2: The vision is no longer driving real ministry decisions [14:46] Sign 3: The vision has already been fully accomplished or fully abandoned [17:22] Practical next steps: How to audit and renew your church's vision this week Free 7-Day Trial of the Healthy Churches Toolkit: https://healthychurchestoolkit.com Episode Article: https://malphursgroup.com/340 Follow the Malphurs Group: https://facebook.com/malphursgroup https://instagram.com/malphursgroup https://youtube.com/themalphursgroup https://x.com/malphursgroup

    25 min

  3. MAY 6

    Why Churches Stop Growing at Predictable Barriers

    Every growing church eventually hits a wall, and in this episode, Scott and A.J. walk through three predictable barriers that slow or stall church growth. These are not problems that cause growth to begin in the first place, but rather real, pragmatic obstacles that show up when a healthy church is already moving in the right direction and needs to clear the path ahead. Scott Ball and A.J. Mathieu are lead consultants at the Malphurs Group, a church consulting organization focused on helping churches become healthier and more effective in their mission. Each week on the Church Revitalization Podcast, they bring practical insight drawn from years of working directly with pastors and church leaders across the country. Their approach is grounded, honest, and always pointed toward real-world application. [5:59] Barrier 1: The Pastor as the Bottleneck -- when the pastor's capacity for personal relationships limits how far the church can grow [11:17] Barrier 2: The Family Church Identity Problem -- when a close-knit congregation unintentionally becomes unwelcoming to newcomers [15:52] The Cost of an Insular Culture -- how new people quietly leave when they cannot break into existing relational circles [17:17] Barrier 3: The Pastor's Self-Perception -- when a pastor's internal identity keeps him from leading the church to its next level [22:10] The Value of Outside Help -- why bringing in an outside perspective can help pastors and churches see and break through these barriers Free 7-Day Trial: https://healthychurchestoolkit.com Episode Article: https://malphursgroup.com/339 Facebook: https://facebook.com/malphursgroup Instagram: https://instagram.com/malphursgroup YouTube: https://youtube.com/themalphursgroup X: https://x.com/malphursgroup

    26 min

  4. APR 29

    Three Signs of Low Emotional Intelligence in Pastors

    In this episode of the Church Revitalization Podcast, Scott and A.J. walk through three practical signs that a leader may be operating with low emotional intelligence. From confusing anger with authority to struggling to read a room to reacting instead of responding, the conversation is honest, self-aware, and grounded in real pastoral experience. The goal is not to point fingers at others but to help leaders identify areas where they can grow. Scott Ball and A.J. Mathieu are church consultants with the Malphurs Group, a ministry dedicated to helping churches thrive through practical leadership and strategic revitalization. Each week they bring that same hands-on, field-tested perspective to the Church Revitalization Podcast, making complex leadership topics accessible and actionable for pastors and church leaders at every stage. [4:45] Sign 1: You Confuse Anger With Authority [10:50] Sign 2: You Struggle to Read the Room [14:33] Sign 3: You React Instead of Respond [19:08] How Leaders Can Actually Improve Their EQ [21:07] Closing Encouragement: You Can Grow in This Free 7-Day Trial of the Healthy Churches Toolkit: https://healthychurchestoolkit.com Episode Article: https://malphursgroup.com/338 Facebook: https://facebook.com/malphursgroup Instagram: https://instagram.com/malphursgroup YouTube: https://youtube.com/themalphursgroup X: https://x.com/malphursgroup

    22 min

  5. APR 22

    Three Things Growing Churches Do With Their Facilities That Declining Churches Don't

    Growing churches and declining churches handle their facilities very differently — and it often has nothing to do with budget or building size. In this episode, Scott and A.J. break down three practical philosophies that healthy, growing churches apply to their physical spaces that plateaued or declining churches tend to overlook. Scott Ball and A.J. Mathieu are the co-hosts of the Church Revitalization Podcast, produced by the Malphurs Group, a church consulting organization dedicated to helping churches grow healthy and reach their communities. Each week, Scott and A.J. bring practical, actionable insights for pastors and church leaders navigating the challenges of revitalization and growth. [3:06] Point 1: Treating Your Facility as a First Impression Tool, Not Just a Container for Sunday Services [7:43] Point 2: How Growing Churches Maximize Their Space Beyond Sunday Morning [12:54] Point 3: Letting Your Space Reflect Your Priorities, Not Your History [17:10] Practical Example: Auditing Outdated Spaces and What They Communicate to New Guests [19:31] How to Conduct a Facility Audit and Take Action on What You Find Free 7-Day Trial of the Healthy Churches Toolkit: https://healthychurchestoolkit.com Episode Article: https://malphursgroup.com/337 Facebook: https://facebook.com/malphursgroup Instagram: https://instagram.com/malphursgroup YouTube: https://youtube.com/themalphursgroup X: https://x.com/malphursgroup

    24 min

  6. APR 15

    Healthy Churches Have Healthy Pastors

    Pastor failures -- moral, emotional, and relational -- are rarely just personal crises. Too often, the church itself has inadvertently created the conditions for them: isolated leaders, missing accountability, and no margin for rest. In this episode, Scott and A.J. make the case that keeping a pastor healthy is a team responsibility, and walk through three practical systems any church can put in place before a problem develops. Scott Ball and A.J. Mathieu are the hosts of the Church Revitalization Podcast, produced by The Malphurs Group -- a church health and strategic planning consultancy. Scott and A.J. work with churches across the country to help leaders build healthy structures, cultures, and teams that can sustain long-term growth and ministry impact. In this episode: [00:00] Why pastor health is everybody's responsibility -- and the danger of only thinking about it reactively [04:46] The isolation problem: why the pastoral role structurally separates leaders from genuine community, and what healthy churches do about it [17:03] Accountability that protects, not just prosecutes: proactive structures including technology monitoring, honest check-ins, and mutual accountability among elders [28:17] Rest as a leadership strategy: why mandatory, guilt-free rest is essential for long-term pastoral health -- and how boards can protect it [39:18] Resources for building a healthier board culture at your church Start your free 7-day trial of the Healthy Churches Toolkit: https://healthychurchestoolkit.com Show notes and resources for this episode: https://malphursgroup.com/336 Connect with The Malphurs Group on social media: https://facebook.com/malphursgroup https://instagram.com/malphursgroup https://youtube.com/themalphursgroup https://x.com/malphursgroup

    40 min

  7. APR 8

    Stop the Summer Slump Before It Starts

    Every church feels it: attendance dips, energy fades, and ministry momentum stalls somewhere between Memorial Day and Labor Day. But the summer slump isn't inevitable. It's the result of low expectations and no plan. In this episode, Scott and A.J. make the case that April is exactly the right time to get ahead of summer, and they give you three practical categories of action to help your church stay healthy and even grow through the slower months. Scott Ball and A.J. Mathieu are the hosts of the Church Revitalization Podcast, produced by The Malphurs Group, a church health and strategic planning consultancy with decades of experience helping churches of all sizes move toward health and missional effectiveness. Each week, they bring practical, actionable conversations to help church leaders lead well. In this episode: [04:00] Why the "everybody's gone" mindset is a self-fulfilling prophecy and how to break the cycle [07:00] Point 1: Reset your expectations. Summer is a less-cluttered season, not a lost one [09:44] Point 2: Make a plan now. Three categories to act on before summer arrives: outreach, discipleship, and planning [18:43] Point 3: Protect your people's momentum. Practical ways to stay connected so the fall re-launch isn't starting from zero [20:30] The simple challenge to give your small group leaders right now Resources & Links: Free 7-Day Trial of the Healthy Churches Toolkit: https://healthychurchestoolkit.com Episode article & resources: https://malphursgroup.com/335 Follow The Malphurs Group: Facebook: https://facebook.com/malphursgroup Instagram: https://instagram.com/malphursgroup YouTube: https://youtube.com/themalphursgroup X: https://x.com/malphursgroup

    23 min

  8. APR 1

    The Missing Link Between Your Sermon and Your Worship Service

    Most churches run their preaching ministry and worship ministry on parallel tracks that never really meet. The result is a Sunday service that feels more like a playlist followed by a sermon than an integrated, unified experience. In this episode, Scott and A.J. explore the practical steps any church can take — regardless of size or style — to build real collaboration between the pastor and the worship leader so that Sunday morning becomes a cohesive whole. Scott Ball and A.J. Mathieu are church health consultants with The Malphurs Group and co-hosts of the Church Revitalization Podcast. Each week they tackle practical, actionable topics to help church leaders lead thriving, healthy churches. In this episode: [00:05:45] Build a Shared Vision for Sunday — Why a preaching calendar is the foundation of worship planning, and how to give your worship leader what they need early enough to actually use it. [00:10:28] Clarify Who Owns What — How to define healthy ownership between the preaching pastor and the worship leader — and why unclear roles create unnecessary tension on Sunday morning. [00:15:02] Build in a Feedback Rhythm — Why a short debrief after (or between) services is one of the most underutilized tools in church ministry, and how to make it a regular, low-pressure habit. [00:19:08] Bonus: Stop Rehearsing Right Before Church Starts — A practical word on worship team rehearsal timing and why Sunday morning sound check is not the time to figure out if a song is ready. Resources & Links: 🛠️ Healthy Churches Toolkit — Your all-in-one leadership operating system for church health and vision. Start your free 7-day trial: healthychurchestoolkit.com 📖 Full show notes & related articles: malphursgroup.com/334 📲 Follow The Malphurs Group: Facebook: facebook.com/malphursgroup Instagram: instagram.com/malphursgroup YouTube: youtube.com/themalphursgroup X: x.com/malphursgroup

    25 min
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