Grow Your Law Firm

Ken Hardison

The Grow Your Law Firm podcast deploys the most innovative legal marketing and management tactics available to get more cases and more free time for yourself. Our law firm growth podcast can help scale your firm by 250% growth with less stress and more free time in the week by exploring the hottest topics and trends in legal marketing and management. This law firm podcast will teach you what the Law Schools don't. Start your law firm growth NOW.

  1. 19h ago

    How to Use Lead Generation Without Wasting Money With Anthony Bux

    Welcome to episode 348 of Grow Your Law Firm, hosted by Ken Hardison. In this episode, Ken sits down with Anthony Bux, VP, Legal Solutions at Sanguine Strategic Advisors. Anthony explains how Sanguine helps personal injury law firms evaluate lead generation vendors, avoid costly marketing mistakes, and make smarter decisions about client acquisition. The conversation focuses on when lead generation makes sense, what law firms need to have in place before buying leads, and why internal intake infrastructure is often the difference between wasted spend and profitable case acquisition. Anthony shares how Sanguine vets providers, monitors quality, helps firms understand cost per case, and protects lawyers from vendors that may create performance, compliance, or ethics risks. Ken and Anthony also discuss market saturation, rising acquisition costs, legal advertising rules, and why firms need to keep their pipelines full while continuing to build their own brands.   What you'll learn in this episode: 1. When Lead Generation Makes Sense - Why lead generation helps firms fill the gap while longer-term marketing strategies develop - How firms can use outside lead sources without abandoning brand-building efforts 2. Why Intake Infrastructure Comes First - Why buying leads does not work if your firm cannot respond quickly and consistently - How dedicated intake, fast follow-up, and lead nurturing affect conversion rates 3. How to Evaluate Lead Quality - Why the cheapest case is not always the best case - How firms should think about cost per acquisition, case quality, and average fee value 4. Why Vendor Vetting Matters - How Sanguine tests and monitors lead providers before recommending them to law firms - Why having an advisor can give firms more leverage when vendor performance changes 5. How Ethics and Compliance Affect Lead Buying - Why firms need to understand how lead providers generate and advertise cases - How changes in legal advertising rules, including California's SB 37, may affect lead generation strategies         Resources:  Website: sanguinesa.com LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/anthonybux Facebook: facebook.com/sanguinetoday Instagram: instagram.com/sanguinetoday         Additional Resources:  https://www.pilmma.org/the-mastermind-effect https://www.pilmma.org/resources https://www.pilmma.org/mastermind

  2. Sep 4

    How Better Medical Data Helps Firms Validate Cases Faster With James Bateman

    Welcome to episode 347 of Grow Your Law Firm, hosted by Ken Hardison. In this episode, Ken sits down with James Bateman, Founder and CEO of SettLiT. James explains how SettLiT helps law firms access digital health data so they can evaluate cases earlier, reduce blind spots, and make better decisions throughout the life of a file. The conversation focuses on the shift from document-based medical record retrieval to structured digital health data. James explains how law firms can use digital health data at intake, before depositions, and during record retrieval to identify prior providers, prior injuries, gaps in care, comorbidities, pharmacy history, lab history, and other important case signals. Ken and James also discuss compliance, AI adoption, early case validation, and why better data can help firms avoid bad cases, strengthen good cases, and prepare more effectively for settlement or litigation.   What you'll learn in this episode: 1. Why Medical Data Is the Foundation of Case Strategy - Why personal injury firms often make early case decisions with incomplete information - How digital health data can surface prior providers, injuries, and gaps in care 2. How Digital Health Data Changes Intake - Why firms can use database searches to validate cases earlier in the process - How provider lists and health data can help firms ask better questions during intake 3. How Better Data Helps Firms Avoid Surprises - Why plaintiff firms can get blindsided when defense finds records they missed - How digital data can help firms prepare for depositions and uncover information earlier 4. Why Compliance Matters With Health Data - Why firms need identity verification, client authorization, and secure vendor processes - How vendor diligence and compliance standards can help protect client information 5. Why Law Firms Need to Move From Documents to Data - Why AI is only as useful as the information it receives - How structured health data can support better AI tools, faster case validation, and more informed settlement decisions         Resources:  Website: www.settlit.com LinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/settlit Facebook: facebook.com/settlit.legal         Additional Resources:  https://www.pilmma.org/the-mastermind-effect https://www.pilmma.org/resources https://www.pilmma.org/mastermind

  3. Aug 28

    How Real Delegation Helps Law Firms Scale With Matt Dubin

    Welcome to episode 346 of Grow Your Law Firm, hosted by Ken Hardison. In this episode, Ken sits down with Matthew Dubin, Founder and CEO of Dubin Law Group. Matthew shares how he grew his Seattle-based personal injury firm from a solo practice into a 90-person operation with a fully developed leadership structure. The conversation focuses on the mindset, systems, delegation, marketing, and operational discipline required to scale a law firm beyond the founder. Matthew explains why early growth requires hustle, referrals, community visibility, and a clear firm identity, while later-stage growth requires documented systems, real executive authority, financial discipline, and the ability to step out of the operator role. Ken and Matthew also discuss AI adoption, leadership structure, and why law firm owners must learn to trust the people and systems they build.   What you'll learn in this episode: 1. Why Early Growth Requires Hustle - How networking and community involvement can help firms generate cases without a major ad budget - Why small firms need to use the founder's time and relationships as their greatest early resource 2. How Identity Shapes Growth - Why law firm owners need to understand their values, message, and client experience - How gratitude, empathy, and compassion became central to their culture and brand 3. Why Systems Beat Heroics - Why growth cannot depend on the founder personally solving every problem - How documented processes and clear ownership help a firm scale more consistently 4. How to Delegate Real Authority - Why titles alone do not create a true leadership team - How Matthew built a C-suite structure with clear ownership, escalation rules, and accountability 5. Why AI and Operations Matter for the Next Stage - How AI can improve efficiency across marketing, intake, case management, and client communication - Why firms need guidelines, secure tools, and a proactive strategy so they are not left behind         Resources:  Website: dubinlawoffice.com LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/matthewdubin1 Facebook: facebook.com/dubinlawoffice Instagram: instagram.com/dubinlaw         Additional Resources:  https://www.pilmma.org/the-mastermind-effect https://www.pilmma.org/resources https://www.pilmma.org/mastermind

  4. Aug 21

    How People-First Leadership Drives Firm Growth With Bert Parnall

    Welcome to episode 345 of Grow Your Law Firm, hosted by Ken Hardison. In this episode, Ken sits down with Bert Parnall, Founder of Parnall Law. Bert shares how he helped grow Parnall Law from a small personal injury practice into a firm with 19 attorneys and more than 110 team members. The conversation focuses on the practices behind sustained growth, including building a strong culture, hiring selectively, developing leaders, strengthening intake, and creating disciplined planning rhythms. Bert also explains why a client-first mission, clear core values, and a commitment to team development have helped the firm generate more referrals and scale without losing focus on the people it serves.   What you'll learn in this episode: 1. How Culture Supports Law Firm Growth - Why core values should shape how team members communicate and serve clients - How a strong culture can improve retention, collaboration, and long-term performance 2. How to Hire and Develop Better Leaders - Why selective hiring is more important than simply filling open roles quickly - How owners can grow by empowering leaders instead of staying involved in every decision 3. Why Intake Is a Core Growth Engine - Why marketing dollars are wasted when a firm is not equipped to convert incoming leads - How a stronger intake team helps firms capture more of the opportunities their marketing creates 4. How Planning Creates Accountability - Why annual planning and quarterly reviews help firms stay focused on their priorities - How disciplined business rhythms keep leaders working on the firm, not only in it 5. How a Client-First Mission Drives Referrals - Why excellent client service can become one of the strongest sources of repeat business - How putting the client's needs first can guide decisions, even in difficult cases         Resources:  Website: hurtcallbert.com LinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/parnall-law Facebook: facebook.com/ParnallLawFirm Instagram: instagram.com/parnalllawfirmllc YouTube: youtube.com/@parnalllawfirm         Additional Resources:  https://www.pilmma.org/the-mastermind-effect https://www.pilmma.org/resources https://www.pilmma.org/mastermind

  5. Aug 14

    How to Stop Losing Cases in Intake With Julien Emery

    Welcome to episode 344 of Grow Your Law Firm, hosted by Ken Hardison. In this episode, Ken sits down with Julien Emery, Co-Founder & CEO of Superpanel. Julien explains how Superpanel uses AI to help plaintiff law firms improve intake, follow up with leads, and move prospective clients from first contact through signed retainers and initial evidence collection. The conversation focuses on the hidden leakage many firms have in their intake process, including missed calls, unanswered form submissions, inconsistent follow-up, and leads that never make it into the "wanted" category. Julien shares why firms need to measure total lead conversion, not just conversion from qualified leads, and how AI systems can help firms respond faster, create more consistent customer journeys, and allow team members to focus on the highest-value cases.   What you'll learn in this episode: 1. Why Intake Leakage Costs Firms Cases - Why many firms lose leads before those leads are ever classified as wanted cases - How missed calls, unanswered forms, and inconsistent follow-up reduce total conversion 2. What an AI Intake Teammate Can Handle - How AI can respond to inbound calls, web forms, texts, and emails - How automated workflows can move qualified prospects through retainers and initial evidence collection 3. Why Top-Line Conversion Matters More Than Wanted Conversion - Why a high conversion rate from wanted cases does not show the full intake picture - How firms can identify leads that are slipping through the cracks before qualification 4. How to Add AI Without Losing the Human Touch - Why firms should provide a clear option for clients who want to speak with a person - How automation can allow human intake teams to spend more time closing valuable cases 5. What to Evaluate Before Implementing AI Intake - Why firms need configurable workflows, data security, and human handoff options - How small-scale testing can help firms compare AI performance with current intake results         Resources:  Website: superpanel.io LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/emeryjulien         Additional Resources:  https://www.pilmma.org/the-mastermind-effect https://www.pilmma.org/resources https://www.pilmma.org/mastermind

  6. Aug 7

    From Basement Startup to Firm Growth With April Collins

    Welcome to episode 343 of Grow Your Law Firm, hosted by Ken Hardison. In this episode, Ken sits down with April Collins, founding attorney of Collins Law. April shares how she grew her personal injury practice from a basement-based operation into a 15-person firm with a permanent office space. The conversation focuses on the mindset, hiring decisions, systems, marketing strategy, and client service that supported that growth. April explains why law firm owners need to make calculated investments in their teams and operations, lean into what makes them different, and adopt new tools like AI to build a more competitive and sustainable business. What you'll learn in this episode: 1. Why Growth Starts with Mindset - How a willingness to take calculated risks can help a firm move beyond survival mode - Why investing back into the firm creates more opportunity than simply holding onto cash 2. How to Hire for Growth - Why fear and trust concerns can hold owners back from making important hires - How to put people in roles that match their strengths 3. Why Systems Make Growth Possible - How standard operating procedures, training materials, and policies create consistency - Why clear benchmarks and monthly scorekeeping help employees understand what success looks like 4. How to Market Around What Makes You Different - Why smaller firms should not try to copy the biggest competitors in their market - How authenticity and a defined target audience can make marketing more effective 5. Why Client Service and AI Both Matter - How strong client service can lead to repeat clients, referrals, and better reviews - Why firms should use AI to increase capacity and stay competitive         Resources:    Website: acollinslaw.com LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/april-h-collins-collinslaw Facebook: facebook.com/CollinsLawLLC Instagram: instagram.com/acollinslaw         Additional Resources:    https://www.pilmma.org/the-mastermind-effect https://www.pilmma.org/resources https://www.pilmma.org/mastermind

  7. Jul 31

    How AI Helps Law Firms Handle More Cases With Timothy Hiller

    Welcome to episode 342 of Grow Your Law Firm, hosted by Ken Hardison. In this episode, Ken sits down with Timothy Hiller, Partner at Hiller Comerford Injury & Disability Law. Tim shares how his firm is using AI to support a high-volume Social Security disability and VA practice while continuing to grow its personal injury department. The conversation explores how AI can help law firms build custom tools, streamline document-heavy work, improve financial forecasting, and reduce repetitive operational tasks. Tim also explains why firms need clear policies around data privacy and attorney review, how to communicate AI adoption to employees, and why he sees AI as a way to increase capacity and compete, not as a reason to reduce staff.   What you'll learn in this episode: 1. How to Start Using AI in Your Firm - Why law firm owners should experiment with AI tools before deciding to implement them - How everyday use helps leaders understand what AI can and cannot do 2. Building Custom AI Tools Without a Large Development Team - How Claude Code can help firms create custom lead-generation tools, calculators, and dashboards - Why firms can use AI to build solutions that better fit their specific practice areas 3. Using AI for High-Volume, Document-Heavy Cases - How AI can help summarize and organize large medical and administrative records - Why attorney review remains essential before submitting AI-assisted work to a court 4. Protecting Client Data and Managing Risk - Why firms should understand enterprise agreements and data privacy before using AI with client information - How internal AI policies can help prevent inaccurate filings and avoidable mistakes 5. Helping Employees Adopt AI - Why firms should present AI as a capacity-building tool rather than a replacement for staff - How leadership communication, employee ambassadors, and one-on-one conversations can reduce resistance         Resources:    Website: hillercomerford.com LinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/hiller-comerford-injury-disability-law Facebook: facebook.com/hillercomerford Instagram: instagram.com/hillercomerford         Additional Resources:    https://www.pilmma.org/the-mastermind-effect https://www.pilmma.org/resources https://www.pilmma.org/mastermind

  8. Jul 24

    How to Win More Cases in the Age of AI Search With Kristi Hagen

    Welcome to episode 341 of Grow Your Law Firm, hosted by Ken Hardison. In this episode, Ken welcomes back Kristi Hagen, Founder & CEO of Kristi Jane LLC. Kristi helps personal injury firms use search, content, conversion optimization, and analytics to generate qualified cases and measure the results of their digital marketing. The conversation focuses on how AI is changing search and what law firms should prioritize as rankings become more volatile. Kristi explains why firms should focus less on individual rankings and more on signed cases, local visibility, authority, reviews, and diversified marketing. She also discusses directory advertising, brand protection, podcast appearances, social media, paid search, and how traffic camera footage from RoadProof can support case evaluation and litigation. What you'll learn in this episode: 1. Why Signed Cases Matter More Than Rankings - Why search rankings can fluctuate without reducing case volume - How firms can evaluate marketing based on qualified leads and signed cases 2. How to Build Authority for AI-Driven Search - Why firms need content, videos, podcasts, and case results around target practice areas - How ChatGPT and other AI platforms can reveal what a firm is known for online 3. Why Local Search Still Drives Personal Injury Cases - How Maps, LSAs, paid search, and organic visibility work together - Why local authority remains essential as AI changes broader informational search 4. How to Protect Your Brand and Marketing Budget - Why firms should monitor directories and competitors bidding on their names - How tracking data determines whether directory and paid search spending produces cases 5. How Traffic Camera Footage Can Support Cases - How RoadProof helps firms search for video evidence near an accident - Why footage can assist with liability decisions, negotiation, and case evaluation       Resources:    Website: kristijane.com Website: roadproof.com LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kristihagen         Additional Resources:    https://www.pilmma.org/the-mastermind-effect https://www.pilmma.org/resources https://www.pilmma.org/mastermind

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The Grow Your Law Firm podcast deploys the most innovative legal marketing and management tactics available to get more cases and more free time for yourself. Our law firm growth podcast can help scale your firm by 250% growth with less stress and more free time in the week by exploring the hottest topics and trends in legal marketing and management. This law firm podcast will teach you what the Law Schools don't. Start your law firm growth NOW.

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