PassivePockets: The Passive Real Estate Investing Show

Welcome to PassivePockets: The Passive Real Estate Investing Show presented by Equity Trust– your go-to podcast for building and protecting wealth through smart, passive real estate investments. Hosted by Jim Pfeifer, this podcast is designed for investors who want to grow without the grind. Each episode features expert interviews with seasoned LPs (Limited Partners) and GPs (General Partners) who share their insights, experiences, and practical advice.

  1. The “Market Metronome” for Deal Stress Tests | Christine Kwasney

    9H AGO

    The “Market Metronome” for Deal Stress Tests | Christine Kwasney

    Today’s show is part of our Community Spotlight Series, where we feature PassivePockets members who share hard-won lessons to help other LPs invest smarter. Christine Kwasny joins Chris Lopez to walk through a detailed retrospective on her syndication portfolio, what she thought she was buying, what actually happened, and what she’ll do differently going forward. Christine started investing actively in 2008, building a Portland-area rental portfolio (single-family renovations that eventually grew into fourplexes). After moving abroad in 2013, she shifted into syndications in 2019–2020 but like many investors, she later found that several 2021–2022 vintage deals didn’t play out the way pro formas suggested, which triggered a deep review of her entire process. In this conversation, Christine breaks down the biggest errors she sees investors make (including “set it and forget it”), how distributions can mask problems, how LPs can quietly fall down the capital stack, and how she used AI to analyze years of offering materials and quarterly reports across 30+ investments. She also shares her “Market Metronome” framework, a simple way to sanity-check underwriting assumptions against real historical ranges and market cycles. Key Takeaways “Passive is a tax and legal term, not a verb”: why syndications often require more scrutiny than owning your own rentals How distributions and quarterly reports can create false confidence—and what to look for in the core updates Capital stack drift: how mezz/preferred equity can change your risk even without a capital call Using AI to accelerate due diligence: summarizing OMs, tracking quarter-by-quarter changes, and stress-testing assumptions The “Market Metronome”: a practical way to pressure-test pro formas against historic highs/lows and cycle reality Disclaimer The content of this podcast is for informational purposes only. All host and participant opinions are their own. Investment in any asset, real estate included, involves risk. Nothing here is investment, tax, legal, or financial advice; consult qualified professionals. Past performance is not indicative of future results. This podcast may include paid advertisements or promotional materials for sponsors, funds, or offerings and should not be interpreted as a recommendation or endorsement by PassivePockets, LLC or affiliates. Conduct your own due diligence and consider your financial situation before engaging with any advertised products or services. PassivePockets, LLC disclaims all liability for any actions taken based on the information presented.

    38 min
  2. Mastering Capital Protection and Cash Flow in a Volatile Macro Environment through Real Estate Private Lending

    FEB 10

    Mastering Capital Protection and Cash Flow in a Volatile Macro Environment through Real Estate Private Lending

    FOR MORE - Debt Fund Due Diligence Hub: www.passivepockets.com/debtdd Next Steps Join the discussion + access links/resources: www.passivepockets.com/debtdd Attend the community Zooms (or watch recordings later) Dates mentioned in the episode: Feb 18, Feb 25, Mar 3 (check the member dashboard for times/updates) Attend the 2026 Summit Conference: https://get.biggerpockets.com/passivepocketssummit2026/ This Episode We’re officially kicking off PassivePockets’ new Debt Fund Due Diligence Series built around what members told us they want most: capital protection and steady cash flow in an uncertain macro environment. Chris Lopez breaks down what real estate private lending actually is (fix-and-flip, bridge, and ground-up construction), why senior debt sits in the “first paid / last to lose” position on the capital stack, and how lending can reduce downside volatility compared to equity-heavy strategies. From there, Chris gets tactical on how to evaluate debt funds like a pro, starting with the single most important document: the loan tape. You’ll learn what a loan tape is, what to look for (LTV/LTC/LTARV, borrower quality, defaults/delinquencies, interest reserves, extensions, leverage, fees, and more), and how real-time portfolio data can change the way you assess track record versus longer-cycle equity deals. Chris also shares a field-tested framework for deeper due diligence, including the on-site audit process: reviewing SOPs, pulling and verifying loan files, confirming recorded deeds of trust, and “follow the money” bank reconciliation to reduce lending and fraud risk. Finally, Chris outlines what’s next for the series community Zooms, expert panels, sponsor spotlights, and ultimately a community-built Debt Fund DD checklist that lives in the membership area as a continuously updated resource. Key Takeaways Why we’re starting with debt: members’ #1 fear is losing principal and #1 motivation is steady cash flow Private lending basics: fix-and-flip, bridge, and ground-up construction loan types—and typical timelines Real estate credit is massive: a multi-trillion-dollar market many retail investors still have little exposure to Capital stack 101: why senior debt is “first paid / last to lose,” and how it can reduce return variance Portfolio strategy: debt often functions like the “bond sleeve” of a real estate portfolio as you rebalance risk Two approaches: direct lending (control + concentration) vs debt funds (diversification + passivity) The loan tape: what it is, why it matters, and which columns/metrics actually tell you if risk is controlled The two risks Chris focuses on: lending risk (staying inside the credit box) and fraud risk (borrower + fund level) What “real due diligence” can look like: on-site audits, file pulls, deed-of-trust confirmation, and bank reconciliation Series roadmap: kickoff → community Zooms → panels/fund spotlights → group DD → living DD checklist Disclaimer The content of this podcast is for informational purposes only. All host and participant opinions are their own. Investment in any asset, real estate included, involves risk. Nothing here is investment, tax, legal, or financial advice; consult qualified professionals. Past performance is not indicative of future results. This podcast may include paid advertisements or promotional materials for sponsors, funds, or offerings and should not be interpreted as a recommendation or endorsement by PassivePockets, LLC or affiliates. Conduct your own due diligence and consider your financial situation before engaging with any advertised products or services. PassivePockets, LLC disclaims all liability for any actions taken based on the information presented.

    46 min
  3. Hotels for LPs: Cash Flow & Playbook feat. Jai Desai & Suraj Reddy

    FEB 3

    Hotels for LPs: Cash Flow & Playbook feat. Jai Desai & Suraj Reddy

    Attend the 2026 Summit Conference: https://get.biggerpockets.com/passivepocketssummit2026/ This Episode Hotels for passive investors: what actually matters and how it’s different from multifamily. Chris Lopez digs in with Jay Desai and Suraj Reddy on the underwriting stack (ADR, occupancy, RevPAR and RevPAR penetration), why brand fit and comp sets (STAR reports) drive the thesis, and how operations (daily pricing, sales/RFPs, third-party management aligned on expenses) move the needle. They walk through break-even occupancy math (often far lower than MF), margins, bonus depreciation via FF&E/capex, fixed-rate/community-bank capital stacks, and their “no capital calls” policy. Includes a Columbus case study and the macro outlook across business/leisure/extended-stay demand—and what Airbnbs really compete for. Key Takeaways Hotels 101: ADR × occupancy = RevPAR; low RevPAR penetration in a strong comp set = value-add target Break-even is different: hotels can pencil at ~35–60% occupancy vs. ~70–75% in multifamily Operations > brand alone: daily revenue management, sales/RFPs, and expense discipline drive NOI STAR reports: how pros build comp sets and gauge RevPAR share before/after capex Depreciation edge: large year-one bonus depreciation from FF&E and renovations (consult your CPA) Disclaimer The content of this podcast is for informational purposes only. All host and participant opinions are their own. Investment in any asset, real estate included, involves risk. Nothing here is investment, tax, legal, or financial advice; consult qualified professionals. Past performance is not indicative of future results. This podcast may include paid advertisements or promotional materials for sponsors, funds, or offerings and should not be interpreted as a recommendation or endorsement by PassivePockets, LLC or affiliates. Conduct your own due diligence and consider your financial situation before engaging with any advertised products or services. PassivePockets, LLC disclaims all liability for any actions taken based on the information presented.

    45 min
  4. State of PassivePockets 2026: Survey & Initiatives

    JAN 27

    State of PassivePockets 2026: Survey & Initiatives

    Attend the 2026 Summit Conference: https://get.biggerpockets.com/passivepocketssummit2026/ It’s our “2026 State of PassivePockets.” Chris Lopez (now lead host, alongside co-hosts Jim Pfeifer and Paul Shannon) shares highlights from the 2025 member survey (96% accredited; 91% already LPs), explains why our Net Promoter Score jumped from -4 (2024) to 44 (2025), and unveils three big initiatives for 2026: (1) community-driven resources that go deep on due diligence—starting with debt funds; (2) using the community’s pooled volume to negotiate better investor terms; and (3) doubling down on what’s working—Sponsor Ratings & Reviews, LP Deal Reviews, the podcast, and a more active private forum. You’ll also hear what members fear most (losing capital), what they want most (steady cash flow), and which asset classes they’re targeting (multifamily and debt tied for #1). Key Takeaways Who we are: 96% accredited; 91% already in syndications/funds NPS turnaround: from -4 (’24) ➜ 44 (’25); top positives—education, trust, community Biggest pain points: pricing clarity, forum engagement, and site navigation- on our roadmap What members fear most: capital loss (72%); what they want most: steady cash flow (~30%) 2026 focus #1: Debt investing: series of pods, forums, expert panels, and a living DD checklist 2026 focus #2: Better terms: leverage pooled community capital for lower mins / improved share classes 2026 focus #3: Do more of what works: more Sponsor Ratings & Reviews + LP Deal Reviews + member spotlights Asset allocation pulse: multifamily & debt tied for top interest; industrial, MHP, self-storage next Host update: Chris Lopez assumes lead-host role; Jim passes the torch and remains co-host with Paul Get involved: post sponsor reviews, join the forum threads, and help shape the checklists we’ll all use Disclaimer The content of this podcast is for informational purposes only. All host and participant opinions are their own. Investment in any asset, real estate included, involves risk, so use your best judgment and consult qualified advisors before investing. You should only risk capital you can afford to lose. Past performance is not indicative of future results. This podcast may contain paid advertisements or other promotional materials for real estate investment advisers, investment funds, and investment opportunities, which should not be interpreted as a recommendation, endorsement, or testimonial by PassivePockets, LLC or any of its affiliates. Viewers must conduct their own due diligence and consider their own financial situations before engaging with any advertised offerings, products, or services. PassivePockets, LLC disclaims all liability for direct, indirect, consequential, or other damages arising out of reliance on information and advertisements presented in this podcast.

    27 min
  5. Pulse Check 2025: Multifamily, Debt Funds & Liquidity

    JAN 20

    Pulse Check 2025: Multifamily, Debt Funds & Liquidity

    Chris Lopez, Jim Pfeifer, and Paul Shannon run a year-end Pulse Check on what worked in 2025, what did not, and where they are deploying capital in 2026. The hosts compare notes on gold and silver, why hard assets helped, and why many expected more multifamily distress than actually appeared. They dig into operator risk, liquidity as an edge, and the niches they like now, from B-class value add with day one cash flow to flex industrial and neighborhood retail. They also cover contrarian views on office and coastal markets, the interest rate outlook and fixed versus floating debt, non-performing loan plays in multifamily, and fresh survey data on where passive LPs plan to invest this year. Key Takeaways 2025 recap: hard assets helped. Gold and silver hedged uncertainty while real estate rewarded disciplined underwriting Fewer fire sales than expected: multifamily distress was patchy and operator specific rather than a broad wave Liquidity matters: dry powder, lines of credit, and redeemable debt funds enable fast moves on real opportunities 2026 opportunities: multifamily with positive leverage, flex industrial for small business users, and durable neighborhood retail tenants Class focus: lean toward higher quality assets and cleaner capex profiles when the price is right Debt positioning: many LPs favor income and down-stack protection; consider fixed rate for sleep-at-night, float selectively if thesis supports it NPL angle: buying notes on discounted basis can create multiple paths to value if you underwrite conservatively Market views: watch select coastal recoveries and Midwest affordability tailwinds; expect fewer easy wins and more operator-driven value Community pulse: survey shows strong 2026 appetite for multifamily and debt, with investors sizing checks meaningfully higher than last year Disclaimer The content of this podcast is for informational purposes only. All host and participant opinions are their own. Investment in any asset, real estate included, involves risk, so use your best judgment and consult with qualified advisors before investing. You should only risk capital you can afford to lose. Past performance is not indicative of future results. This podcast may contain paid advertisements or other promotional materials for real estate investment advisers, investment funds, and investment opportunities, which should not be interpreted as a recommendation, endorsement, or testimonial by PassivePockets, LLC or any of its affiliates. Viewers must conduct their own due diligence and consider their own financial situations before engaging with any advertised offerings, products, or services. PassivePockets, LLC disclaims all liability for direct, indirect, consequential, or other damages arising out of reliance on information and advertisements presented in this podcast.

    50 min
  6. Leka Devatha’s Playbook: Creative Exits, ADUs & Value-Add Deals

    JAN 13

    Leka Devatha’s Playbook: Creative Exits, ADUs & Value-Add Deals

    Chris Lopez welcomes Seattle-based investor/author Leka Devatha to unpack how she built from flips to a diversified active/passive portfolio—plus what’s actually working in a high-cost, tenant-friendly market. Leka breaks down her first LP deal (why operator selection and interest-rate caps mattered), a 12-unit Seattle value-add that tripled gross rents, and the creative lending + multi-exit playbook behind her new book, Return on Real Estate. She shares a tactical framework for sourcing, underwriting, and operating in micro-markets—and how middle-housing zoning (ADUs, townhomes, duplexes) is shaping her 2026 pipeline. Key Takeaways Operator first: In 2021–22 vintage deals, disciplined sponsors with interest-rate caps, tight PM, and no fee-grab mentality have fared best. Value-add or bust (in HCOL markets): Buy below market due to deferred maintenance; renovate only what’s required to hit rent and NOI targets. Operations edge: Strict tenant standards, vigilant expense control, and local PM who understands tenant-friendly statutes are non-negotiable. Creative capital stack: Build a lender bench (conventional, DSCR, hard money) and use tools like short-term cash-out refis with no prepay to bridge seasonality. Micro-market focus: Know the streets, views, and comps; Seattle’s middle-housing rules unlock ADUs/townhomes/duplexes on former SF lots. Stack exits: Example—flip the front house, build/condo-map a DADU, keep as a long-term rental, refi to pull cash while holding quality dirt. Active → Passive: If you’re newer, learn by placing small LP checks with proven, local operators before scaling your own projects. Next 12–24 months: Fewer “easy” wins, but more mispriced opportunities for operators who can create value and manage tightly. Disclaimer The content of this podcast is for informational purposes only. All host and participant opinions are their own. Investment in any asset, real estate included, involves risk, so use your best judgment and consult with qualified advisors before investing. You should only risk capital you can afford to lose. Past performance is not indicative of future results. This podcast may contain paid advertisements or other promotional materials for real estate investment advisers, investment funds, and investment opportunities, which should not be interpreted as a recommendation, endorsement, or testimonial by PassivePockets, LLC or any of its affiliates. Viewers must conduct their own due diligence and consider their own financial situations before engaging with any advertised offerings, products, or services. PassivePockets, LLC disclaims all liability for direct, indirect, consequential, or other damages arising out of reliance on information and advertisements presented in this podcast.

    29 min
  7. Scott Trench’s 2026 Playbook: Rates, Rents, and the Office Bet

    JAN 6

    Scott Trench’s 2026 Playbook: Rates, Rents, and the Office Bet

    This Episode Chris Lopez and Jim Pfeifer sit down with Scott Trench for a frank 2025 recap and a practical 2026 game plan. Scott reviews what he got right (rates staying sticky, supply-driven rent trends) and where the surprises showed up (gold strength, stock market resilience), then opens his playbook: selling a chunk of stocks, buying paid-off 2–4 unit Denver rentals, and allocating a small slice of retirement capital to private credit via a solo 401(k). Looking ahead, Scott focuses on multifamily supply tapering, demand uncertainty, and the 10-year vs. Fed funds dynamic. He also lays out a contrarian Class A office thesis (all equity, patient lease-up, operator quality over leverage) and shares how LPs might think about accessing similar opportunities. Key Takeaways Interest rates: policy cuts may not translate to lower mortgages if the 10-year stays elevated Supply and rents: 2026 likely absorbs the 2024–2025 wave, with rent strength returning market by market Portfolio moves: swapped high-multiple equities for paid-off small multifamily; reserved retirement dollars for simple-yield private credit Risk posture: early-career aggression → mid-career capital protection; leverage optionality comes later Office angle: best-in-market, newer assets with patient, all-equity business plans may offer asymmetric upside LP lens: prioritize operator track records in one geography, modest leverage, and realistic lease-up/tenant improvement budgets Disclaimer The content of this podcast is for informational purposes only. All host and participant opinions are their own. Investment in any asset, real estate included, involves risk, so use your best judgment and consult with qualified advisors before investing. You should only risk capital you can afford to lose. Past performance is not indicative of future results. This podcast may contain paid advertisements or other promotional materials for real estate investment advisers, investment funds, and investment opportunities, which should not be interpreted as a recommendation, endorsement, or testimonial by PassivePockets, LLC or any of its affiliates. Viewers must conduct their own due diligence and consider their own financial situations before engaging with any advertised offerings, products, or services. PassivePockets, LLC disclaims all liability for direct, indirect, consequential, or other damages arising out of reliance on information and advertisements presented in this podcast.

    40 min
  8. Maximize 2025, Plan 2026: John Bowens on Solo 401k Deadlines and Roth Conversions

    12/30/2025

    Maximize 2025, Plan 2026: John Bowens on Solo 401k Deadlines and Roth Conversions

    Chris Lopez is joined by Equity Trust’s John Bowens to close out 2025 and prep smart moves for 2026 using self-directed retirement accounts. John walks through contribution and conversion timelines for IRAs, Roth IRAs, HSAs, and Solo 401(k)s, explains the seven-day payroll rule for S- and C-corps, and shares practical strategies like spousal IRAs, backdoor Roths, staged Roth conversions over two tax years, and maximizing early-year compounding. The conversation also covers 2026 limit increases, Solo 401(k) employer vs employee buckets, and the Secure Act 2.0 tax credit for new plans. Key Takeaways Roth conversions must post by Dec 31 for the current tax year Previous-year IRA and HSA contributions allowed until Apr 15 if not on extension Solo 401(k) employee deferrals for S- and C-corps must be deposited within seven days of payroll Sole proprietors can set up and fund a Solo 401(k) for the prior year by Apr 15 Use spousal IRAs and backdoor Roths to maximize annual limits Stage conversions across two years to manage tax brackets while starting compounding sooner Disclaimer The content of this podcast is for informational purposes only. All host and participant opinions are their own. Investment in any asset, real estate included, involves risk, so use your best judgment and consult with qualified advisors before investing. You should only risk capital you can afford to lose. Past performance is not indicative of future results. This podcast may contain paid advertisements or other promotional materials for real estate investment advisers, investment funds, and investment opportunities, which should not be interpreted as a recommendation, endorsement, or testimonial by PassivePockets, LLC or any of its affiliates. Viewers must conduct their own due diligence and consider their own financial situations before engaging with any advertised offerings, products, or services. PassivePockets, LLC disclaims all liability for direct, indirect, consequential, or other damages arising out of reliance on information and advertisements presented in this podcast.

    38 min

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Welcome to PassivePockets: The Passive Real Estate Investing Show presented by Equity Trust– your go-to podcast for building and protecting wealth through smart, passive real estate investments. Hosted by Jim Pfeifer, this podcast is designed for investors who want to grow without the grind. Each episode features expert interviews with seasoned LPs (Limited Partners) and GPs (General Partners) who share their insights, experiences, and practical advice.

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