The Real Jason Duncan Podcast

The Real Jason Duncan
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The Real Jason Duncan Podcast is a conversation about what's actually real. Every guest gets the same question at the center of the episode: what did you use to believe that turned out to be completely wrong? The people in the chair have earned a point of view. Entrepreneurs, athletes, artists, pastors, investors, builders of things that worked and things that didn't. They talk about the lies they were told by family, culture, or their own industry, the years they spent believing them, and what finally changed their mind. Host Jason Duncan is an entrepreneur, author of Exit Without Exiting, and founder of The Exiter Club™. He asks direct questions and doesn't let easy answers slide. Every episode ends the same way: what do you know now that you wish the world knew? New episodes every week.

  1. 13h ago

    393.The One Sin the Church Won't Forgive

    In the church, there's one sin everybody calls forgivable and then treats like it isn't. Divorce. Jim Lange believed that for years, built his life around it, and then ended up on the other side of the line he'd spent his whole life telling himself never to cross. Jim Lange is a coach, a speaker, and the number one bestselling author of The Happy Wife Happy Life Deception. He leads Kingdom Factor roundtables for more than 70 Christian business and ministry leaders, and he works privately with men whose marriages are destroying them. He was on this show at episode 377 exposing the happy wife, happy life lie. He came back for the one sitting underneath it. Jim became a follower of Jesus in 1999, roughly fifteen years into a marriage that started deteriorating right after. His men's group told him to love her more. His pastors told him the same. Nobody ever said out loud that divorce was unforgivable, and he believed it anyway. He stayed almost 31 years. He went through more than a dozen years of counseling with four different counselors. And the whole time he carried a specific picture in his head of the judgment waiting for him if he ever went through with it. The belief broke on his screened-in porch. He was studying scripture for business content about how to fire someone the way God would want it done, and he hit Titus 3:10 – "Warn a divisive person once, warn them twice, then have nothing to do with them. Then the question landed on him. " What if the divisive person is your spouse? Three hours of study turned into months. He walks Jason through what he found, including Proverbs 6 and the list of things God hates, the difference between a conditional and an unconditional covenant, the certificate of divorce God issued to Israel, and Ezra 9 and 10, where God commanded priests to divorce. His conclusion: if God commanded it, and God cannot sin, then divorce cannot be inherently sinful. Then they get into what it costs. The permanent spiritual asterisk. The seven years Jim went without a single invitation to speak at a church. The judgment he discovered he had been carrying toward divorced people right up until he became one. The eleven-person life team, three of them pastors, who told him he could not be obedient to God and stay. And the line he gives coaching clients still deciding: you are going to have pain either way, so choose which kind. Neither man is arguing for divorce, and both say so directly. They are arguing against the life sentence handed to people who have already been through it. Jim also made a special offer for listeners of this show. Get The Happy Wife Happy Life Deception for a penny plus shipping at jimlangebook.com Connect with Jim: Website: https://jimlange.netBook for a penny: https://jimlangebook.comLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimlangeX: https://x.com/jimlangecoachEmail: jim@jimlange.net Subscribe to What's Real?: https://therealjasonduncan.com/articlesBook Jason to speak: https://therealjasonduncan.com/speakingGet the book: https://therealjasonduncan.com/bookThe podcast: https://therealjasonduncanpodcast.com This episode is sponsored by Bank On Yourself. Book a free consultation with Mark Willis at https://therealjasonduncan.com/bankonyourself. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

  2. 5d ago

    392.You're Not Getting More Done

    In April of 2007, Arianna Huffington collapsed in her office, hit her desk on the way down, and broke her cheekbone. Her doctors tested her for everything. The diagnosis came back as burnout. What almost nobody repeats is what she said afterward, and it wasn't about her health. She said her performance would actually have improved if she'd committed to unplugging and recovering. She isn't saying she should have built a smaller company. She's saying she'd have built the same one better. Jason walks through the case against the hours: Elon Musk telling reporters that nobody should work 120-hour weeks and then going back to it seven years later, Stanford research from World War I munitions factories showing that a 70-hour worker produces about what a 55-hour worker produces, and the largest four-day-week trial ever run, where revenue held and sick days fell by 65 percent. Then he gets to the part that matters for anyone who owns the place. If you subtract one real thing this week and the whole operation wobbles, that isn't a discipline problem. That's what a buyer sees when they look at your company. Read the full post: https://therealjasonduncan.com/articles/392 Book a call with Jason: https://therealjasonduncan.com/talk New episodes every Wednesday. Show Notes Full blog post: https://therealjasonduncan.com/articles/392 Episode page: https://therealjasonduncan.com/podcast/392 Book a call with Jason: https://therealjasonduncan.com/talk Sponsor – Dubb: https://therealjasonduncan.com/dubb Pencavel (2015), "The Productivity of Working Hours," The Economic Journal The UK Four Day Week Pilot results (Autonomy, 2023): https://autonomy.work/portfolio/uk4dwpilotresults/ Instagram: https://instagram.com/therealjasonduncan YouTube: https://youtube.com/therealjasonduncan Subscribe to What's Real? – Jason's weekly newsletter: https://therealjasonduncan.com/articles Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

  3. 6d ago

    391.Why Profit Should Come Before People

    The most repeated formula in business says you build a company in this order: people first, then product, then process, and profit comes last. Neil Amrhein hired 4,800 people living by that formula. Today he builds in the exact reverse order, and people come last. In this episode, Jason sits down with Neil Amrhein, founder of My Goat, a Nashville software company using semi-autonomous robotic mowers to disrupt commercial lawn care, and before that the founder of All About Care, a luxury home healthcare company that employed 4,800 caregivers and delivered over a million hours of care across two states. Neil was one of the very first guests in this show's history, all the way back at episode 4, and he came back to defend a build order that sounds cold the first time you hear it. Jason makes him own it one P at a time. Profit first, because if you can't monetize your idea, it's a hobby. Process second, because you either build the systems or you become the system. Product third, because the market defines what you sell -- Neil's white-glove care service had to change when he learned families just wanted their loved ones content. And people last, which Neil argues is actually the safest place for them: a profitable business with real systems is the one place a new hire can't sink. Along the way: the 11-step hiring process that took 90 hours of care per caregiver just to break even, how My Goat became 75 percent headless with humans training their own AI agent twins, the fifth P Neil is now testing, and his closing charge for everyone listening. Protect your attention. Clear thinking beats hard work. Connect with Neil: Website: mygoat.co LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/neil-amrhein-9398969 Email: neil@mygoat.co Subscribe to What's Real?: https://therealjasonduncan.com/articles Book Jason to speak: https://therealjasonduncan.com/speaking Get the book: https://therealjasonduncan.com/book Podcast: https://therealjasonduncanpodcast.com This episode is sponsored by Dubb, the video sales platform Jason has used nearly every day since 2018. Get started at therealjasonduncan.com/dubb Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

  4. Sep 2

    390. When Did Money Last Change Your Life?

    Most people can name the last time more money genuinely changed their life. What almost nobody can explain is why it stopped, or why they kept chasing the next number anyway. Jason opens with a scene from his last year teaching school, doing budget math at a McDonald's counter while his son hunted for the most expensive thing on the menu. Then he traces what happened after the money showed up: a thirty-eight thousand dollar teaching salary, an eighteen thousand dollar first check that he still remembers in his chest, and a six hundred eighty-six thousand dollar second check that eventually stopped feeling like anything at all. He walks through the research that finally settled the income-and-happiness argument, including why every equal gain in how your life feels now requires doubling your income rather than adding to it. Then he gets to the part that costs the most: the breathing room you're chasing can't be purchased, because the chase itself is what took it from you. Two questions, ten minutes, one piece of paper. Most people find the gap between their answers embarrassing. Read the full post: https://therealjasonduncan.com/articles/390 Book a call with Jason: https://therealjasonduncan.com/talk New episodes every Wednesday. Full blog post: https://therealjasonduncan.com/articles/390 Episode page: https://therealjasonduncan.com/podcast/390 Book a call with Jason: https://therealjasonduncan.com/talk Sponsor – Bank on Yourself: https://therealjasonduncan.com/bankonyourself Kahneman & Deaton (2010), "High income improves evaluation of life but not emotional well-being," PNAS Killingsworth (2021), "Experienced well-being rises with income, even above $75,000 per year," PNAS Killingsworth, Kahneman & Mellers (2023), "Income and emotional well-being: A conflict resolved," PNAS: https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2208661120 Instagram: https://instagram.com/therealjasonduncan YouTube: https://youtube.com/therealjasonduncan Subscribe to What's Real? – Jason's weekly newsletter: https://therealjasonduncan.com/articles Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

  5. Aug 31

    389.School Never Taught You How to Learn

    Somewhere around age twelve, you were told that school would teach you how to learn. It didn't. Sabrina Sussman has two degrees and runs a $3.1 billion program, and she says the skill her whole career runs on is one no classroom ever taught her. Recorded live at the Standard Club in front of the Leadership Society, this episode starts with the lie and lands in the middle of everything happening in Nashville right now. Sabrina is the city's first Chief Program Officer for Choose How You Move, the largest capital program in Nashville's history, and she explains why the question she asks in every job interview is "how do you learn?" She tells the story of the Excel spreadsheet assignment three weeks into her first federal job that turned out to be the invite list for a cabinet secretary's national tour. She explains why Nashville's traffic signals haven't been touched in 60 years, and why a police officer standing at a corner pressing a button called "the pickle" is how downtown traffic gets managed on event nights. She breaks down what your half cent actually buys: 86 miles of sidewalks, nearly 600 smart intersections, safer streets, and more bus service, plus the signal upgrade that lets fire trucks turn lights green before they arrive. She also tells the story she carries into every day of this work: getting hit by a car on a morning run in 2014, half a block from her front door, and the two and a half years of physical therapy where she relearned how to walk, how to run, and how to feel safe on a street. And she describes the three little girls who chalked a hopscotch game onto a sidewalk that didn't exist four weeks earlier, ending with "good job, you're finished." If you're a business owner thinking about your own exit, register for Jason's free live training at whattofixbeforeyouexit.com, or book a call at therealjasonduncan.com/talk. New guest episodes every Monday. SHOW NOTES: Learn more about Choose How You Move: nashville.gov/transit Connect with Sabrina Sussman on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/sabrina-sussman Free live training, What to Fix Before You Exit: whattofixbeforeyouexit.com Book a call with Jason: therealjasonduncan.com/talk Instagram: instagram.com/therealjasonduncan YouTube: youtube.com/therealjasonduncan Subscribe to What's Real?, Jason's weekly newsletter: therealjasonduncan.com/articles Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

  6. Aug 26

    388. The Old Dog Can Learn. He's Just Too Loaded Down to Try

    "I'm too set in my ways." You've said it. I've said it. And it sounds like a man who finally knows himself. It's a lie, and your own brain proves it. In this Wednesday Special Edition, I take apart one of the most comfortable excuses people give for why they've stopped growing: you can't teach an old dog new tricks. I start with the settled brain science. Neuroplasticity proves your capacity to learn and change doesn't shut off at thirty, or fifty, or seventy. Your brain rewires itself in response to demand for your entire life. So if the capacity is there, and it is, then the question was never whether you can learn. The question is why you don't. That's where a professor named Howard McClusky comes in. Decades before anyone had proven neuroplasticity was real, he figured out the actual reason adults stop learning, and he called it the Theory of Margin. Every one of us carries a Load and holds a certain amount of Power, and margin is what's left over. When your Load swallows your Power, you don't learn anything new. Not because you can't, but because there's no room left in the container. I walk through why "that's just how I am" is a golden cage that protects the load you built yourself, and I give you a practical fix to start clearing space: an open cycles inventory you can do this week with a legal pad. If you've been telling yourself you're too old to change, this one's for you. Grab the free 10-Block Weekly Method template: https://therealjasonduncan.com/10block Read the full article: https://therealjasonduncan.com/articles/old-dog-new-tricks-lie Ready for a bigger conversation about the load that traces back to a business that can't run without you? Book a call with me directly: https://therealjasonduncan.com/talk Subscribe to What's Real?, my weekly newsletter: https://therealjasonduncan.com/articles New episodes every Wednesday. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

  7. Aug 24

    387. Revenue Won't Make Your Company Sellable

    She ran the numbers on more than a hundred businesses for sale, and kept seeing the same thing: founders with growing revenue who were certain that made their companies valuable. The buyers writing the checks didn't agree. In this episode, Jason sits down with Muriel Touati, founder of Exit 3D Studio and author of The Valuation Gap: What Buyers See That Sellers Miss. Muriel spent a year on the buyer's side of the table, and she tells the story that ended it: a LinkedIn lead generation agency asking $3.7 million. Her offer was accepted. Then she opened the data room and found that the leads ran through the founder's personal LinkedIn profile, which wasn't part of the sale, and 40% of clients were gone within months. She repriced the business at roughly $650,000 and walked away anyway. Jason and Muriel break down the four structural gaps she found in deal after deal (customer concentration, founder dependency, unpredictable revenue, and weak digital assets), the bad advice from a mentor that trapped her in her own business, and the difference between the founder who gets offered 2x and the one who gets offered 7x: one is selling a business, the other is selling a job. She closes with a simple test any owner can run this month to find out which one they own. This conversation pairs with last week's episode with Mark Hartmann. Same territory, a different perspective from the buyer's side of the table. Connect with Muriel: Website: exit3dstudio.com LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/murieltouati Book: The Valuation Gap: What Buyers See That Sellers Miss, available on Amazon Free live training from Jason: "What to Fix Before You Exit." Register at whattofixbeforeyouexit.com Want to talk one-on-one about your business? Book a call at therealjasonduncan.com/talk This episode is sponsored by Bank On Yourself. Learn more at therealjasonduncan.com/bankonyourself Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

  8. Aug 19

    386. The Multitasking Lie: Why Doing More at Once Gets Less Done

    I teach focus for a living, and this week I became the exact problem I'm about to warn you about. Laptop open, three AI tools running, jumping between all of them all day, and getting less done on every single one. Multitasking feels like productivity, especially now that AI has made it easier than ever to run five things at once. But it's a lie, and in this Wednesday Special Edition I break down exactly why. I walk through the Stanford research that studied heavy multitaskers and found the opposite of what everyone expected: the people who multitask the most are actually the worst at it. Worse at filtering distractions, worse at memory, and worse at the one thing you'd assume they'd have mastered, which is switching between tasks. And the damage doesn't switch off. It follows them even when they finally sit down to focus on one thing. I get honest about how AI tools removed the last bit of friction that used to force me to concentrate, why the busy feeling is a golden cage, and the simple system I built to climb back out of it: the 10-Block Weekly Method. Five workdays, two blocks a day, ten blocks total. One rabbit at a time, inside the fence you built for it. If you read this with three other apps open on your phone, this one's for you. Grab the free 10-Block Weekly Method template: https://therealjasonduncan.com/10block Read the full article: https://therealjasonduncan.com/articles/multitasking-is-a-lie Want to talk through where your focus is leaking and what it's costing your business? Book a call with me directly: https://therealjasonduncan.com/talk Subscribe to What's Real?, my weekly newsletter: https://therealjasonduncan.com/articles New episodes every Wednesday. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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The Real Jason Duncan Podcast is a conversation about what's actually real. Every guest gets the same question at the center of the episode: what did you use to believe that turned out to be completely wrong? The people in the chair have earned a point of view. Entrepreneurs, athletes, artists, pastors, investors, builders of things that worked and things that didn't. They talk about the lies they were told by family, culture, or their own industry, the years they spent believing them, and what finally changed their mind. Host Jason Duncan is an entrepreneur, author of Exit Without Exiting, and founder of The Exiter Club™. He asks direct questions and doesn't let easy answers slide. Every episode ends the same way: what do you know now that you wish the world knew? New episodes every week.

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    The Real Jason Duncan
  • Years Active
    2021 - 2026
  • Episodes
    391
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