How Not To Suck At Divorce

Morgan Stogsdill and Andrea Rappaport

Get divorce advice that most attorneys aren't giving. We break down unpopular divorce opinions and practical divorce tips that can save you thousands of dollars in legal fees, reduce stress, and help you avoid costly mistakes. How Not to Suck at Divorce is the divorce podcast for people who want clarity, strategy, and support. Hosted by powerhouse family law attorney Morgan Stogsdill, head of family law at the largest firm in the country, and comedian-turned-marketing-guru Andrea Rappaport, this show helps you avoid the most common (and costly) divorce mistakes while protecting your kids, your finances, and your sanity. Each episode breaks down what actually matters during divorce—custody, co-parenting, negotiations, communication, and decision-making—using real-world examples, practical tools, and a refreshingly honest approach. You’ll learn what to tell your lawyer (and what to tell your friends), how to manage emotions without letting them derail your case, and how to move forward even when the process isn’t over. Whether you’re thinking about divorce, in the middle of it, or trying to rebuild your life after, How Not to Suck at Divorce gives you the information you need, the validation you deserve, and the confidence to make better decisions—one step at a time. Morgan Stogsdill has seen every curveball, knows the difference between drama and strategy, and helps clients avoid costly mistakes. Andrea Rappaport has made the exact painful mistakes we beg you not to repeat. What We Cover Should I stay or should I go? Decision-making frameworks, acronyms, and step-by-step exercises for clarity. Co-parenting and high-conflict personalities. We unpack narcissist dynamics, manipulation tactics, and non-reactive communication. (We even created a framework called “WTF” to help you remember it when your brain is on fire.) The BIFF method and conflict de-escalation. With Bill Eddy of the High Conflict Institute, we translate his tools into real-world texts and emails you can send without blowing up your case. Tech safety and AI mistakes. Steven Bradley, former FBI agent and digital safety expert Prenups, financial transparency, and power dynamics. Guests like Katie Post share what to include, what to avoid, and how to start the conversation before things go off the rails. That’s our recipe: expert interviews + practical tools + humor that keeps you breathing. Episodes are short enough for a dog walk but deep enough to change your next decision. Who You’ll Hear Bill Eddy (High Conflict Institute): BIFF and EAR techniques, parallel parenting, and communication guardrails. Steven Bradley (former FBI “Tech Cowboy”): Digital breadcrumbs, evidence handling, and how AI can backfire in divorce. Dr. Nadine Macaluso (therapist, trauma specialist): Love-bombing, trauma bonds, and healing after divorce. Joanna Strober (Midi Health): Resilience, perimenopause, career pivots, and financial autonomy. Core Topics Divorce Strategy & Family Law: prenups, mediation vs. litigation, custody agreements, relocation, settlement strategy. High-Conflict & Safety: coercive control, gaslighting, BIFF, protective orders, tech hygiene. Co-Parenting & Parallel Parenting: calendars, school/holiday schedules, and communication protocols. Money & Power: financial disclosure, tracing assets, budgeting, and managing fees.Mindset & Mental Health: compartmentalizing, trigger management, boundary scripts, and choosing the right therapist or coach. Our show is both resourceful and entertaining. You’ll laugh, take notes, and walk away feeling less alone. How Not to Suck at Divorce has become a trusted resource worldwide. Whether you’re in the middle of a divorce, just considering it, or rebuilding afterward, this podcast helps you breathe easier, protect your sanity, and avoid the mistakes that cost people the most. You’ll get through this. We promise. You’ve got this… and we’ve got you.

  1. 4D AGO

    194. Divorce After an Affair: How to Protect Your Divorce Strategy When Betrayal Wrecks Your Brain

    An affair can destroy your marriage — but it does not have to destroy your divorce strategy. In this episode of How Not to Suck at Divorce, family law attorney Morgan Stogsdill and comedian Andrea Rappaport tackle one of the most emotionally explosive divorce triggers: infidelity. Joined by therapist and Now What? podcast host Amy Neufeld, we break down what betrayal does to your nervous system, why your brain goes into survival mode, and how that can lead to expensive, irreversible divorce mistakes. If you’re going through divorce after an affair, this conversation will help you understand what’s happening in your body and mind — and give you practical action steps so you can make smarter decisions around custody, finances, and communication. In this episode, we cover:Why an affair can’t destroy your divorce strategy unless you let emotions run the caseThe “Chad and Brenda” story: how revenge spending and legal warfare can implode the marital estateWhy infidelity is often attachment trauma (and why it feels like physical pain)What betrayal does to your brain: hypervigilance, panic, shutdown, and intrusive imagesThe 3 common responses to betrayal: attack, despair, or detachmentWhy anger can feel productive — but still cloud judgment during divorce negotiationsThe unpopular truth: divorce lawyers can fire clients, especially when trauma turns into sabotageHow to stop using the legal system for emotional relief (and why courts can’t “make it right”)Amy’s practical “Now What?” tools to stabilize after betrayal:Routine to rebuild predictabilityContain the pain so it doesn’t take over your entire daySeparate facts from your story to calm your nervous system and make clearer decisionsWhy “the story” can create collateral damage (friends, family, custody dynamics)Co-parenting boundaries: why tools like OurFamilyWizard can help reduce conflict and document patternsThe mic-drop takeaway: An affair is an event. The story you build around it can shape the next decade of your life. If you’re in the middle of divorce after cheating…This episode is for you if you’re: Struggling to eat, sleep, or think straightFeeling consumed by intrusive thoughts or mental imagesTorn between revenge and “doing the right thing”Afraid you’ll make a decision you’ll regret financially or with custodyTrying to co-parent while you’re still emotionally flooded Action Steps from this episodeBuild one predictable routine you can repeat dailyCreate a daily window to contain the pain (even 5 minutes counts)Write down what’s fact vs story so your brain stops spiralingAvoid processing betrayal in court — process it with a qualified trauma-trained therapistUse structured communication to protect yourself during co-parenting Guest: Amy Neufeld — Therapist, Founder of Intentional Action Therapy, Host of Now What? Website: amyneufeldtherapy.com Podcast: Now What? https://pod.link/1881151960 Our Family Wizard is another fantasitc resource for those who need help navigating the "fun" world of coparenting. Head to this landing page to see how we work closely with them to support our listeners! http://www.ourfamilywizard.com/notsuck Friends, slide into our dms, we love love love hearing from you. We are always here to listen and help in any way we can. You've got this and we've got you. Instagram: @hownotosuckatdivorce Follow Andrea: @theandrearappaport Follow Morgan: @divorceattorneychicago

    47 min
  2. 6D AGO

    193. When I Knew It Was Time to Leave My Marriage: Personal Divorce Story- Mini Episode

    How do you know when it’s truly time to leave your marriage? In this mini episode of How Not to Suck at Divorce, Andrea Rappaport shares the deeply personal story of how she knew her marriage was over — and the warning signs she ignored long before she finally said the words, “I want a divorce.” Andrea talks openly about the quiet red flags that started as whispers, the gut feelings she tried to ignore, and the emotional toll of staying in a relationship that wasn’t healthy or sustainable. If you’re questioning your marriage, feeling lonely in your relationship, or wondering if divorce might be the right next step, this episode offers an honest and compassionate perspective. Sometimes the hardest part of divorce isn’t the legal process — it’s acknowledging what your heart has already been trying to tell you. This episode is about learning to listen to those whispers before they become screams. In This EpisodeAndrea shares: The early red flags she ignored while datingWhy unhealthy relationships can feel familiar and “normal”The emotional experience of living in a marriage that doesn’t feel rightWhat it feels like to avoid going home because the relationship feels so lonelyWhy many people stay in marriages long after they know something is wrongThe moment Andrea finally said “I want a divorce”Why gathering information about divorce can help you feel more empoweredThe importance of having a safe place to talk about what you're going through If You’re Wondering Whether It’s Time to Leave Your MarriageIf you're asking yourself questions like: Is my marriage over?Why do I feel so lonely in my relationship?How do I know when it's time to get divorced?What does it feel like when a marriage isn't working anymore? You are not alone. Many people experience the same doubts, fears, and emotional confusion before deciding to leave a marriage. This episode offers a reminder that listening to your instincts and seeking support can help you navigate one of the hardest decisions of your life. Resources MentionedIf you're thinking about divorce, these steps can help you start gathering information and support: Speak with a therapist or trusted professionalTalk to a divorce attorney to understand your optionsConnect with a supportive community of people going through similar experiencesContinue learning about the divorce process so you can make informed decisions About the PodcastHow Not to Suck at Divorce is hosted by Morgan Stogsdill, head of family law at one of the largest family law firms in the country, and comedian Andrea Rappaport. Each episode helps people navigate divorce with expert guidance, honest conversations, and practical advice so you can avoid the biggest divorce mistakes. Divorce may be overwhelming, but you don’t have to go through it alone. Final ReminderDivorce is a marathon, not a sprint. Some days you need information. Other days you just need to feel seen and heard. And if you're listening to this episode and questioning your marriage, know this: You deserve happiness. And remember: You've got this… and we've got you. Our Divorce Crash Course was designed to hold your hand through the process and help you avoid major and expensive mistakes. Learn more here: https://www.hownottosuckatdivorce.com/divorce-crash-course Our Family Wizard is another fantasitc resource for those who need help navigating the "fun" world of coparenting. Head to this landing page to see how we work closely with them to support our listeners! http://www.ourfamilywizard.com/notsuck Friends, slide into our dms, we love love love hearing from you. We are always here to listen and help in any way we can. You've got this and we've got you. Instagram: @hownotosuckatdivorce Follow Andrea: @theandrearappaport Follow Morgan: @divorceattorneychicago Mentioned in this episode: Natural Cycles This episode of How Not to Suck at Divorce is sponsored by Natural Cycles. Wondering if it’s perimenopause or just stress? Take control. Visit NaturalCycles.app/divorce to explore a science-backed way to understand your body’s changes & save on a subscription and wearable. When your body feels unpredictable, your decisions shouldn’t have to be. Get insight and clarity with NC° Perimenopause. Visit Naturalcycles.app/divorce to learn more and save on a subscription and wearable. You’re not alone in this transition. There are tools to help you make sense of what your body is doing. Visit naturalcycles.app/divorce to learn more and save on a subscription

    15 min
  3. FEB 27

    192. 5 People Who Suck at Divorce More Than You- Mini Episode

    If you think you’re messing up your divorce… relax. In this mini episode of How Not to Suck at Divorce, Morgan Stogsdill and Andrea Rappaport bring you a much-needed mental break with five outrageous, real-life divorce stories that prove one thing: No matter how chaotic your situation feels… someone is doing it worse. From a $15,000 bedazzled Buddha that cost double to fight over in court, to a couple who spent $100,000 litigating an ashtray (yes, really), to a husband who tried to avoid divorce by claiming he was technically a zombie — this episode highlights the wildest ways people derail their own divorce cases. Because here’s the truth: divorce is emotional, but court is not. And when pettiness, revenge, or ego drive decisions, the only real winner is the attorney bill. In This Episode, We Cover:Why fighting over sentimental items can cost more than they’re worthThe $100,000 ashtray case (and why judges lose patience)The legal consequences of “in-game crime” during divorceThe Beyoncé “To the Left” security system revenge momentThe infamous “zombie defense” divorce caseWhy judges see more chaos than you realizeHow not to let ego drive your legal strategy While this mini episode brings humor, the underlying message is serious: ✔️ Petty fights cost real money ✔️ Emotional reactions extend litigation ✔️ Judges have seen everything — including wackadoo defenses ✔️ Revenge may feel good, but it rarely plays well in court ✔️ Strategy > spectacle Divorce can feel overwhelming, nauseating, and heavy. Sometimes you need a break — and sometimes you need perspective. If you’re doggy-paddling through your divorce, consider this your reminder: You are not alone. You are not the most chaotic case in the courthouse. And you can absolutely get through this. Resources MentionedJoin our free, confidential divorce communityCheck out the updated Divorce Crash CourseExplore our downloadable divorce guidebooks Our Divorce Crash Course was designed to hold your hand through the process and help you avoid major and expensive mistakes. Learn more here: https://www.hownottosuckatdivorce.com/divorce-crash-course Our Family Wizard is another fantasitc resource for those who need help navigating the "fun" world of coparenting. Head to this landing page to see how we work closely with them to support our listeners! http://www.ourfamilywizard.com/notsuck Friends, slide into our dms, we love love love hearing from you. We are always here to listen and help in any way we can. You've got this and we've got you. Instagram: @hownotosuckatdivorce Follow Andrea: @theandrearappaport Follow Morgan: @divorceattorneychicago Mentioned in this episode: Natural Cyles When your body feels unpredictable, your decisions shouldn’t have to be. Get insight and clarity with NC° Perimenopause. Visit Naturalcycles.app/divorce to learn more and save on a subscription Natural Cycles

    15 min
  4. FEB 20

    191. Divorcing an Alcoholic: Trauma Bonds, Fear, and Self-Preservation

    Living with alcoholism can make you question everything—your judgment, your boundaries, even your reality. If you’re thinking about divorcing an alcoholic (or you’re not ready to leave yet, but you know something has to change), this episode is for you. Morgan Stogsdill and Andrea Rappaport sit down with Jeff Wright, an insurance brokerage founder and mentor who has helped countless people navigate toxic, alcohol-fueled relationships—shaped by his own childhood experience with an abusive alcoholic parent. Together, they unpack why leaving an alcoholic spouse can feel impossible (even when the situation is clearly unsafe), how trauma bonds keep people stuck, and what “self-preservation” really looks like when you’re trying to protect your children and your sanity. You’ll also learn the practical steps to take before you file: who to talk to (and who not to), how to make a plan quietly, how to build confidence when you feel shattered, and what legal tools can help keep kids safe—including monitoring options like Soberlink, testing, and supervised parenting time. If you’ve been surviving in chaos, consider this your permission slip to stop normalizing it—and start building a path out. What You’ll Learn in This EpisodeWhy living with an alcoholic partner can distort your reality and decision-makingThe real reasons people stay (hint: it’s often not money)What a trauma bond is and why “they hurt you, then hug you” feels like loveHow alcoholism impacts the drinker’s brain—and why denial can be extremeHow to assess your home environment: stress signals, kids’ behavior, and “waiting for them to come home” tensionWhat self-preservation actually means: privacy, planning, and choosing the right supportWhy your divorce attorney is not your therapist—and why you need bothConcrete action steps: quiet planning, go-bag/documents, separate accounts, and rebuilding confidenceLegal tools that can support safety for kids (monitoring/testing options and structured parenting arrangements) Episode Highlights / Timestamps00:00 The reality: alcoholism can make you question your judgment and reality00:57 Sponsor: OurFamilyWizard + discount code02:11 Who this episode is for (especially if you haven’t left yet)03:07 Meet Jeff Wright and why this is his mission06:07 Jeff’s childhood with an abusive alcoholic father (and lasting impact)08:17 Morgan explains why this becomes “normal” when you’re living it10:29 Why people don’t leave: kids, fear, finances, and responsibility12:25 The real trap: limiting beliefs and fear of what others think13:33 Trauma bonds explained in plain language15:33 Proving alcohol abuse legally + testing options18:04 Emotional detachment vs. physical leaving (why it’s the mind that keeps you stuck)20:15 A powerful self-check: what happens when the drinker isn’t home?22:07 Self-preservation #1: don’t tell the wrong people (privacy matters)26:03 Legal tools for safety: Soberlink, testing, supervision29:38 Unpopular truth: your attorney is not your therapist33:34 Jeff’s 3 action steps: plan quietly, keep promises to yourself, build confidence39:55 “Your gut has never lied to you.”41:10 Changing your role in the story—and protecting what your kids learn as “normal” Action Steps (Quick Takeaways)Make a plan quietly. Brick by brick—documents, accounts, go-bag, and a safe place to land.Talk to the right people only. Professionals bound by confidentiality (attorney/therapist), not the rumor mill.Build confidence with tiny wins. Keep promises to yourself—your nervous system needs proof you can trust you.Get the right team. Divorce strategy = attorney. Emotional survival = therapist.Pay attention to the whisper. The red flags don’t get quieter—they escalate. Get Jeff's ebook here: https://flinchnomore.com/ Our Divorce Crash Course was designed to hold your hand through the process and help you avoid major and expensive mistakes. Learn more here: https://www.hownottosuckatdivorce.com/divorce-crash-course Our Family Wizard is another fantasitc resource for those who need help navigating the "fun" world of coparenting. Head to this landing page to see how we work closely with them to support our listeners! http://www.ourfamilywizard.com/notsuck20 Friends, slide into our dms, we love love love hearing from you. We are always here to listen and help in any way we can. You've got this and we've got you. Instagram: @hownotosuckatdivorce Follow Andrea: @theandrearappaport Follow Morgan: @divorceattorneychicago Mentioned in this episode: Natural Cyles When your body feels unpredictable, your decisions shouldn’t have to be. Get insight and clarity with NC° Perimenopause. Visit Naturalcycles.app/divorce to learn more and save on a subscription Natural Cycles

    45 min
  5. FEB 13

    190. The 8 Best-Kept Secrets to Avoid Expensive Divorce Mistakes

    Think emailing your divorce lawyer is the “cheapest” way to communicate? Think again. In this episode of How Not to Suck at Divorce, Morgan (yes, Morgan is solo because Andrea has the flu 😷) breaks down one of the most expensive mistakes people make during divorce: sending emotional, scattered emails instead of getting real strategy. We’re talking about when to email, when to call, when a face-to-face meeting is worth every penny, and how to show up prepared so you’re not paying for chaos. Plus: switching attorneys (when it’s time and when it’s not), pre-divorce “move smarter” tips, how to protect evidence, what to know about non-marital assets, beneficiary red flags, and why tax implications can become negotiation leverage. Bottom line: you need a plan—and you don’t get one by spiraling in your inbox. What You’ll Learn in This EpisodeWhy a phone call or face-to-face attorney meeting can be more cost-effective than emailsHow to stop reacting to your ex’s “urgent” messages and start operating with divorce strategyThe best way to prep for billable time: bullet points, goals, and an objectiveWhen it makes sense to consult another attorney (without immediately switching)What “collect evidence” actually means—and where to store it safelyWhy you should document what you entered the marriage with (non-marital assets)The red flag nobody thinks about: beneficiary changes during divorceHow divorce-related tax implications can become powerful negotiation points Episode Highlights (Key Moments)00:00 Why face-to-face meetings can be more valuable (and cost-effective) than email01:15 Sponsor: OurFamilyWizard (co-parenting app / discount code)01:45 Morgan explains why Andrea is out + why this episode is a must-listen rerun03:48 The “nine emotional emails” problem—and what to do instead06:47 Secret #1: You don’t have to respond to everything on your ex’s timeline08:38 How to call your attorney with bullet points (and an objective)09:37 When a phone call isn’t enough and you need face-to-face strategy12:34 Secret #2: Move your body before you make decisions15:02 Secret #3: You can switch attorneys (but don’t do it while activated)20:38 Secret #4: Large purchases pre-filing (why timing matters)22:21 Secret #5: Collect evidence BEFORE it disappears25:44 Secret #6: Know what you came into the marriage with27:15 Secret #7: Watch for beneficiary changes28:35 Secret #8: Tax implications can be negotiation leverage40:09 Final takeaway: Divorce is a marathon—action steps matter The 8 Best-Kept Secrets (Recap)You don’t have to respond immediately just because your ex demands it.Take a walk / move your body before making decisions.Phone calls or face-to-face meetings beat emotional emails (and can cost less).Consider timing for major purchases if divorce is imminent.Collect and store evidence safely (new email, new cloud, non-shared accounts).Document what you entered the marriage with (non-marital assets).Watch for beneficiary changes on insurance/retirement accounts.Understand tax implications—they can become negotiation points. Call to ActionNeed more support? Join our free community, grab our guides, and get the tools you need to make better decisions during divorce. And remember: You’ve got this… and we’ve got you. Our Divorce Crash Course was designed to hold your hand through the process and help you avoid major and expensive mistakes. Learn more here: https://www.hownottosuckatdivorce.com/divorce-crash-course Our Family Wizard is another fantasitc resource for those who need help navigating the "fun" world of coparenting. Head to this landing page to see how we work closely with them to support our listeners! http://www.ourfamilywizard.com/notsuck20 Friends, slide into our dms, we love love love hearing from you. We are always here to listen and help in any way we can. You've got this and we've got you. Instagram: @hownotosuckatdivorce Follow Andrea: @theandrearappaport Follow Morgan: @divorceattorneychicago Mentioned in this episode: Natural Cyles When your body feels unpredictable, your decisions shouldn’t have to be. Get insight and clarity with NC° Perimenopause. Visit Naturalcycles.app/divorce to learn more and save on a subscription Natural Cycles

    44 min
  6. FEB 6

    189. When Your Divorcing Spouse Is Still Trying to Control You ( It’s Hurting Your Case)

    If your ex is still controlling you and you keep reacting, explaining, or trying to keep the peace… you might be actively hurting your legal case without even realizing it. Because here’s the thing: divorce doesn’t cure controlling behavior—it often exposes it. And control doesn’t always look loud. Sometimes it looks “polite.” Sometimes it looks like silence. Sometimes it looks like a thousand tiny moments that make your stomach drop. In this episode of How Not to Suck at Divorce, attorney Morgan Stogsdill and comedian Andrea Rappaport break down what control looks like after separation, why it escalates, and the legal + emotional action steps to shut it down. And yes—there’s also a story involving a tambourine, a fire-lit “happiness class,” and a man casually threatening everyone with a tombstone. (Welcome to the show.) What You’ll Learn in This Episode✅ How control shows up during divorce (even when it’s not obvious)Morgan explains that control can look like: Financial control: “I’ll pay when I feel like it,” monitoring spending, moving goalpostsMicromanaging parenting and second-guessing everything you doWeaponized silence / delayed responses to make you spiralMaking you feel like you need permission for decisions you don’t need permission for“Polite” manipulation disguised as “concern for the kids” Why control often escalates after separationAndrea explains the psychology: when someone loses access and power, they often pull harder—because control is how they regulate their discomfort. The dangerous legal issue most people miss: “splitting”Morgan explains how controlling behavior can drive a wedge between you and your attorney—making you doubt your lawyer, hold back details, or get pulled into the ex’s narrative. That’s not just stressful. It can derail your strategy and cost you serious money. The communication trap that keeps you stuckIf your nervous system is hijacked every time they text you, you’ll default to the old pattern: ReactingOver-explainingTrying to smooth things overTrying to get them to “understand” Which gives them exactly what they want: access. The Tools That Help You Stop the Control1) Tighten the structure (legally + logistically)Morgan explains why vague agreements don’t work with controlling people. Example of vague: “reasonable communication.” Problem: “reasonable” becomes a playground for manipulation. 2) Reduce accessBecause (say it with us): control fades when access fades. That may mean: limiting communicationusing a parenting appnot responding to baitpushing communication through proper channels 3) Stop JADE-ingAndrea shares the acronym JADE: JustifyingArguingDefendingExplaining More words = more oxygen = more control. 4) Use BIF responsesMorgan shares BIF (from Bill Eddy): BriefInformativeFirmFriendly The goal is to respond in a way that doesn’t invite more conflict—and doesn’t make you look unhinged if things end up in court. 5) Use OurFamilyWizard (especially for parenting conflict)Morgan explains why a co-parenting app helps: reduces accesscreates recordsprevents chaosprovides structure and timelines Episode Takeaways (Your “Do This Now” List)If your stomach drops when they text you, do this: Tell your attorney what’s happening (don’t be embarrassed—this is common)Ask your lawyer how to tighten the structure with clearer court ordersReduce access and stop responding to baitUse JADE + BIF for cleaner communicationIf parenting is involved, get on OurFamilyWizard and stop trying to “co-parent” when you need to parallel parent Resources MentionedOurFamilyWizard (court-respected co-parenting communication app)BIF communication method by Bill EddyOur $20 communication guide (how to respond without feeding the chaos)Our free private community for support + questions About the PodcastHow Not to Suck at Divorce is hosted by Morgan Stogsdill, head of family law at the largest family law firm in the country, and comedian/marketing expert Andrea Rappaport. We help you avoid major divorce mistakes with expert guidance—plus the humor and levity you need to survive it. On your worst days, you’ve got this… and we’ve got you. Our Divorce Crash Course was designed to hold your hand through the process and help you avoid major and expensive mistakes. Learn more here: https://www.hownottosuckatdivorce.com/divorce-crash-course Our Family Wizard is another fantasitc resource for those who need help navigating the "fun" world of coparenting. Head to this landing page to see how we work closely with them to support our listeners! http://www.ourfamilywizard.com/notsuck Friends, slide into our dms, we love love love hearing from you. We are always here to listen and help in any way we can. You've got this and we've got you. Instagram: @hownotosuckatdivorce Follow Andrea: @theandrearappaport Follow Morgan: @divorceattorneychicago Mentioned in this episode: Natural Cyles When your body feels unpredictable, your decisions shouldn’t have to be. Get insight and clarity with NC° Perimenopause. Visit Naturalcycles.app/divorce to learn more and save on a subscription Natural Cycles

    38 min
  7. JAN 30

    188. Top Divorce Regrets (and What to Do Instead)

    Rushing a divorce can cost you money, leverage, and peace—especially if you’re dating, listening to family “advice,” or skipping the right experts. In this episode, Morgan Stogsdill and Andrea Rappaport break down the most common divorce regrets and the smart, strategic moves to avoid them. In this episode of How Not to Suck at Divorce, Morgan and Andrea unpack the most common divorce regrets they see over and over again: the ones that quietly cost you money, complicate custody, drag out the process, and make you look back thinking… why did I do that? Get real divorce advice your lawyer may be too polite to share. We break down unpopular divorce opinions and practical divorce tips that can save you thousands of dollars in legal fees, reduce stress, and help you avoid costly mistakes. How Not to Suck at Divorce is the divorce podcast for people who want clarity, strategy, and support From rushing because you’ve moved on romantically, to letting your dad become your “legal strategist,” to skipping experts like OurFamilyWizard because you’re trying to save money—this is your highlight reel of what not to do (and what to do instead). And yes… Billy Bob Thornton and Angelina Jolie make an appearance. Because apparently six marriages is one way to earn a PhD in divorce. In this episode, we cover:The #1 regret: rushing your divorce and leaving money on the tableWhy “I want to be divorced by March” can backfire fastHow outdated financials and an old balance sheet can cost you thousandsWhy your new partner should not be part of the divorce “mischigas”The danger of letting family and friends influence legal decisionsHow well-meaning parents can accidentally run up your legal billWhen outside experts (forensic accountants, co-parenting tools, therapists) actually save you moneyWhy trying to “cheap out” can lead to a future court nightmareThe difference between fighting for what matters vs. fighting over balsamic vinegarHow to decide what’s worth it (and what’s just ego, fear, or control) Key Takeaways (Quick & Skimmable)1) Don’t rush the process and leave money on the tableWhen you’re desperate to be done, you cut corners. That’s how people sign agreements with missing details, outdated account values, or unclear parenting language—then regret it later. Do this instead: Ask your attorney if your timeline is realistic, and if it is—map the steps from A to Z. 2) Don’t bring your new relationship into your divorce chaosYour new person may mean well, but they are not your lawyer—and emotionally, it can start poisoning the relationship fast. Do this instead: Process the divorce with your therapist, your support system, and your attorney—not your new partner. 3) Don’t let non-lawyers steer legal decisionsEven smart, loving parents can unintentionally derail the strategy—especially when they aren’t in the day-to-day “trenches” of your case. Do this instead: If a family member must join a call, keep it controlled: you’re present, they stay muted, and they ask questions at the end. 4) Don’t skip tools and experts just to “save money”Skipping the right expert can create a bigger bill later—especially in co-parenting disputes, business valuations, and post-decree enforcement. Do this instead: If your attorney recommends something like OurFamilyWizard or a valuation expert, ask why—and seriously consider it. 5) Don’t drag out your divorce fighting over small stuffThere’s a difference between protecting what matters and spending thousands to win a couch, condiment collection, or “principle.” Do this instead: Ask your attorney: Is this worth the cost to fight over? Action Steps (What to do today)Write down your goals: “What do I NEED vs. what do I WANT?”Ask your lawyer directly: “Am I rushing—and what could that cost me?”Update your financials before signing anything (especially account balances).Keep your support team clean: attorney + therapist + trusted friend (not your new partner).Stop paying legal fees for emotional processing—save that for therapy. Our Divorce Crash Course was designed to hold your hand through the process and help you avoid major and expensive mistakes. Learn more here: https://www.hownottosuckatdivorce.com/divorce-crash-course Our Family Wizard is another fantasitc resource for those who need help navigating the "fun" world of coparenting. Head to this landing page to see how we work closely with them to support our listeners! http://www.ourfamilywizard.com/notsuck Friends, slide into our dms, we love love love hearing from you. We are always here to listen and help in any way we can. You've got this and we've got you. Instagram: @hownotosuckatdivorce Follow Andrea: @theandrearappaport Follow Morgan: @divorceattorneychicago Mentioned in this episode: Natural Cyles When your body feels unpredictable, your decisions shouldn’t have to be. Get insight and clarity with NC° Perimenopause. Visit Naturalcycles.app/divorce to learn more and save on a subscription Natural Cycles

    44 min
  8. JAN 23

    187. Divorce Help. When the Other Side Won’t Respond: Motions to Compel, Subpoenas, and Strategy

    When your divorce is dragging because the other side won’t respond, it can feel like psychological warfare—especially when kids and money are on the line. In this episode, Morgan Stogsdill and Andrea Rappaport break down what’s actually happening when a divorce case stalls, how to tell the difference between normal delays and strategic stalling, and what to do next. You’ll learn the practical legal steps attorneys use to create structure—like mediation deadlines, motions to compel, subpoenas, depositions, and discovery strategies—plus the mindset shifts that keep you from spiraling and spending thousands of dollars reacting emotionally. Bottom line: when the time is right, get aggressive—because talk is cheap. Stalling is one of the most common (and most infuriating) divorce experiences, and it happens for a few big reasons: They don’t have their shit together (missing documents, incomplete financials, no affidavit, disorganized life)They think you’ll panic and settle cheap just to end the painIt’s a power play (silence = control, especially with high-conflict people)Their attorney is overwhelmed, under-resourced, or occasionally strategic (timing money events like bonuses, etc.) The good news: stalling isn’t a dead end. It’s a problem that can be solved with structure, strategy, and sometimes court pressure. The First Question to Ask Your LawyerBefore you go scorched earth, ask this exact question: “Is this delay normal… or is this strategic stalling?” Morgan explains that a good attorney can often tell you: whether the other lawyer is just chronically slow/unorganized, orwhether the other side is intentionally dragging things out to wear you down. These two scenarios require totally different responses. What Judges Respond To: Structure + DeadlinesStalled cases usually move when there’s something real on the calendar: court datesmotion hearingstrial datesmediations with firm deadlines Morgan’s most practical advice: If nothing is moving, push for a trial date. Even if the first date doesn’t “stick,” a real end date creates pressure—and pressure creates movement. Action Steps: What You Can Do When the Other Side Won’t Respond1) Stop guessing. Get clarity.Tell your attorney you’re frustrated and ask: Is this normal?What’s the standard timeline in this jurisdiction?What steps do we take in order if they don’t comply?At what point do we file something? This helps you avoid spending money “going aggressive” too early… only for the judge to give them another two weeks anyway. 2) Use mediation for structure (when appropriate)If both parties will participate, mediation can impose deadlines and create structure outside the court’s slow pacing. But if the other side is truly non-cooperative, Morgan’s blunt truth is: “The only road it all leads to is the courthouse.” 3) File the motion when it mattersWhen someone repeatedly ignores deadlines, attorneys can file motions that force compliance (example: motion to compel for missing financials or discovery). Morgan’s mantra: “When the time is right, get aggressive. File that motion. Put your money where your mouth is—because talk is cheap.” 4) Use discovery to shake them awakeDepending on your state/country, your attorney may be able to use tools like: Subpoenas (banks, employers, third parties)Requests to admit (miss the deadline → deemed admitted in some places)Depositions (sometimes the notice alone changes behavior)Other discovery strategies tailored to what the other side is hiding/protecting Key idea: if they think non-response prevents you from finding things, they’re wrong. You have legal tools. The Mindset Shift That Saves You ThousandsAndrea nails why stalling feels so brutal: silence makes our brain fill in the worst story. But spiraling leads to: emotional प्रतिक्रtionslate-night lawyer textsexpensive back-and-forthmore stress (and less strategy) Their advice: treat it like an office problem: warnings → structure → consequencesdon’t “manage” your ex—you can’tfocus on what you control: your strategy + your next move Unpopular (but important) truth: Sometimes it’s your lawyer.Andrea and Morgan both acknowledge that sometimes the delay is happening because your attorney isn’t assertive enough. What to do: Tell your lawyer clearly what you expect and ask for a planIf it doesn’t improve, consider switching attorneys or adding support from someone else at the firm You’re allowed to advocate for yourself. Key TakeawaysFind out if the delay is normal vs. strategicStructure moves stalled cases: deadlines, hearings, trial datesAggression works only when timed correctlyDiscovery tools can force the truth out (even when they stall)Don’t let silence bait you into expensive emotional reactionsSometimes the fix is a better plan—or a stronger attorney What can I do if my spouse won’t respond in a divorce? Talk to your attorney about whether it’s normal delay or stalling. If it’s repeated, attorneys can use mediation deadlines, motions to compel, subpoenas, and setting court/trial dates to force progress. When should I file a motion in divorce? Not every delay requires court action. But repeated missed deadlines and noncompliance often require filing a motion—because court pressure creates structure. Can a divorce be delayed on purpose? Yes. Some people stall as a strategy to wear you down emotionally or financially, or to maintain control. What’s the best way to stop stalling tactics? Structure. Deadlines. And if necessary, court dates and motions. Our Divorce Crash Course was designed to hold your hand through the process and help you avoid major and expensive mistakes. Learn more here: https://www.hownottosuckatdivorce.com/divorce-crash-course Our Family Wizard is another fantasitc resource for those who need help navigating the "fun" world of coparenting. Head to this landing page to see how we work closely with them to support our listeners! http://www.ourfamilywizard.com/notsuck Friends, slide into our dms, we love love love hearing from you. We are always here to listen and help in any way we can. You've got this and we've got you. Find our playlists here: a href="https://www.hownottosuckatdivorce.com/podcast" rel="noopener noreferrer"...

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Get divorce advice that most attorneys aren't giving. We break down unpopular divorce opinions and practical divorce tips that can save you thousands of dollars in legal fees, reduce stress, and help you avoid costly mistakes. How Not to Suck at Divorce is the divorce podcast for people who want clarity, strategy, and support. Hosted by powerhouse family law attorney Morgan Stogsdill, head of family law at the largest firm in the country, and comedian-turned-marketing-guru Andrea Rappaport, this show helps you avoid the most common (and costly) divorce mistakes while protecting your kids, your finances, and your sanity. Each episode breaks down what actually matters during divorce—custody, co-parenting, negotiations, communication, and decision-making—using real-world examples, practical tools, and a refreshingly honest approach. You’ll learn what to tell your lawyer (and what to tell your friends), how to manage emotions without letting them derail your case, and how to move forward even when the process isn’t over. Whether you’re thinking about divorce, in the middle of it, or trying to rebuild your life after, How Not to Suck at Divorce gives you the information you need, the validation you deserve, and the confidence to make better decisions—one step at a time. Morgan Stogsdill has seen every curveball, knows the difference between drama and strategy, and helps clients avoid costly mistakes. Andrea Rappaport has made the exact painful mistakes we beg you not to repeat. What We Cover Should I stay or should I go? Decision-making frameworks, acronyms, and step-by-step exercises for clarity. Co-parenting and high-conflict personalities. We unpack narcissist dynamics, manipulation tactics, and non-reactive communication. (We even created a framework called “WTF” to help you remember it when your brain is on fire.) The BIFF method and conflict de-escalation. With Bill Eddy of the High Conflict Institute, we translate his tools into real-world texts and emails you can send without blowing up your case. Tech safety and AI mistakes. Steven Bradley, former FBI agent and digital safety expert Prenups, financial transparency, and power dynamics. Guests like Katie Post share what to include, what to avoid, and how to start the conversation before things go off the rails. That’s our recipe: expert interviews + practical tools + humor that keeps you breathing. Episodes are short enough for a dog walk but deep enough to change your next decision. Who You’ll Hear Bill Eddy (High Conflict Institute): BIFF and EAR techniques, parallel parenting, and communication guardrails. Steven Bradley (former FBI “Tech Cowboy”): Digital breadcrumbs, evidence handling, and how AI can backfire in divorce. Dr. Nadine Macaluso (therapist, trauma specialist): Love-bombing, trauma bonds, and healing after divorce. Joanna Strober (Midi Health): Resilience, perimenopause, career pivots, and financial autonomy. Core Topics Divorce Strategy & Family Law: prenups, mediation vs. litigation, custody agreements, relocation, settlement strategy. High-Conflict & Safety: coercive control, gaslighting, BIFF, protective orders, tech hygiene. Co-Parenting & Parallel Parenting: calendars, school/holiday schedules, and communication protocols. Money & Power: financial disclosure, tracing assets, budgeting, and managing fees.Mindset & Mental Health: compartmentalizing, trigger management, boundary scripts, and choosing the right therapist or coach. Our show is both resourceful and entertaining. You’ll laugh, take notes, and walk away feeling less alone. How Not to Suck at Divorce has become a trusted resource worldwide. Whether you’re in the middle of a divorce, just considering it, or rebuilding afterward, this podcast helps you breathe easier, protect your sanity, and avoid the mistakes that cost people the most. You’ll get through this. We promise. You’ve got this… and we’ve got you.

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