The Mind Bod Adventure Pod

Jeff Warren & Tasha Schumann
The Mind Bod Adventure Pod

Join hosts Jeff & Tasha as they explore the world of practice, one adventurous guide at a time. www.mindbodpod.com

  1. Beyond “Normal”: Neurodiversity-Affirming Therapy with Joel Schwartz

    APR 8

    Beyond “Normal”: Neurodiversity-Affirming Therapy with Joel Schwartz

    This week on the Mind Bod Adventure Pod, we sit down with Dr. Joel Schwartz, a psychologist and one of the early architects of the Neurodiversity-Affirming Therapy movement. Joel is known for speaking truth to systems that pathologize difference — and for offering a way of working with our minds that’s healing, joyful, and radically humane. In this episode, we explore: * Why the “pathology model” of ADHD and autism misses the point * The emotional toll of masking and code-switching to survive * What actually helps when someone is overstimulated (spoiler: not deep breathing) * Reclaiming movement, joy, and the right to stim without shame * An unexpected practice that ends in synchronized swaying and yodel-singing! Joel brings brilliance, humor, and zero tolerance for the rigid norms that ask neurodivergent folks to contort themselves into “acceptable” versions of humanity. Along the way, Tasha reflects on late-diagnosed spectrum-y traits, Jeff gets real about rejection sensitivity, and we all momentarily dissolve into giggles about somatic intelligence and… mosh pits. ✨This episode is both a call to arms and a warm hug — a guide to seeing difference not as deficit, but as creative, embodied, meaningful expression. We make this show with love, laughter, and absolutely no corporate overlords. If it lights you up, help us keep it going with a paid subscription! ❤️ Connect with Joel’s Practice: Total Spectrum Counseling Now it’s your turn! Let us know what this episode and practice shook loose for you: That’s all for this week. Thanks for tuning in. Love always, 🧘🏽‍♀️ Tasha & Jeff 🧘🏼‍♂️ Get full access to The Mind Bod Adventure Pod at www.mindbodpod.com/subscribe

    54 min
  2. Learning to Relate with James-Olivia Chu Hillman

    MAR 25

    Learning to Relate with James-Olivia Chu Hillman

    This week, we sit down with relational facilitator James-Olivia Chu Hillman, whose teachings on radical responsibility, integrity, and unconditional positive regard are already shifting how Jeff shows up in relationship… and how Tasha tries not to ghost people who annoy her. 😅 Together, we explore: * The four core skills of relating well * why being “right” isn’t the same as being relational * Why saying “I agree” can be the most disorienting move in a conversation * What it really means to take responsibility—without shame, and without blame -------- The Mind Bod Adventure Pod is a community-supported project. If you like these adventures, consider helping us keep the lights on with a paid subscription! ❤️ -------- And we wrestle with the tension between compassion and boundaries, support and self-abandonment, and the paradox of allowing versus control in both meditation and relationships. ✨ “Integrity has a cost,” James-Olivia reminds us. “But so does losing it.” Whether you’re conflict-avoidant, righteousness-prone, or deeply tired of your own relational fuckery—this episode offers a compassionate (and funny) mirror. -------- The Afterparty (watch at www.mindbodpod.com) Jeff breaks and Tasha explores why setting boundaries and advocating for oneself can be both challenging and powerful. Let us know in the comments what this episode shook loose for you. K, That’s all for this week. Thanks for tuning in! Love always, 🧘🏽‍♀️ Tasha & Jeff 🧘🏼‍♂️ Get full access to The Mind Bod Adventure Pod at www.mindbodpod.com/subscribe

    1h 3m
  3. The Science of Happiness with Axel Bouchon

    MAR 11

    The Science of Happiness with Axel Bouchon

    What if happiness wasn’t just a feeling but something you could train and reinforce? This week on MindBod AdventurePod, we sit down with Dr. Axel Bouchon, a neuroscientist and biotech entrepreneur who spent 20 years searching for a cure for depression—only to realize he’d been asking the wrong question. Instead of curing sadness, he discovered the source code for happiness—a set of six neurotransmitters that shape our emotional landscape. In this episode, Axel takes us on a guided tour of our own brains, revealing: * Why depression can’t be erased—but happiness can be cultivated * The six neurotransmitters behind different flavors of happiness (it’s not just dopamine!) * How to “train” yourself for more joy, resilience, and long-term well-being * Why laughter, nature, music, and even bass drops all play a role in happiness * How our best memories act as anchors—and why taking photos might actually make us happier ------------------------------------ The Mind Bod Adventure Pod is a community-supported project. If you like these adventures, consider helping us keep the lights on with a paid subscription! ❤️ ------------------------------------ We also dive into Matter, Axel’s innovative app that helps reinforce positive neural pathways by engaging with your own peak memories—those moments that spark deep joy, connection, and meaning. It’s a fascinating look at how we can actively shape our emotional landscape for greater balance and well-being. This episode is part neuroscience, part meditation, and part mind-expanding happiness experiment—so get ready to light up your brain in real time. ------------------------------------ LINKS * Learn more at: Matter.xyz * Download the Matter app: matter.xyz/app What’s your most happiness-inducing memory? Let us know in the comments! ------------------------------------ The Afterparty The Pod is about to get way weirder… we’re turning these Afterparty sessions into full bi-weekly episodes! We’ll talk, unpack, guide short practices, sing, dance—who knows what else—all in the spirit of bringing you deeper into our weird worlds as practitioners, teachers, and friends. Coming in APRIL! 🎉 ------------------------------------ K, That’s all for this week. Thanks for tuning in! Love always, 🧘🏽‍♀️ Tasha & Jeff 🧘🏼‍♂️ Get full access to The Mind Bod Adventure Pod at www.mindbodpod.com/subscribe

    44 min
  4. The Heart of Patience & Courage with Oren Jay Sofer

    FEB 25

    The Heart of Patience & Courage with Oren Jay Sofer

    What if the secret sauce to navigating the world isn’t hustling harder, fixing yourself, or achieving inner peace like it’s an item on your to-do list—but something way simpler and right under your nose? This week on the Mind Bod Pod, we sit down with Oren Jay Sofer, a meditation teacher, communication wizard, and all-around wise human, to talk about his book, Your Heart Was Made for This. We dig into the deep but wildly practical ways we can meet life’s chaos with more presence—and fewer panic spirals: * Why patience and courage might actually be magic powers * The giant, thorny question—should we even have kids?? (Yup, we go there) * Why the “I don’t have time for practice” excuse is a lie (and what to do instead) * How self-care, spirituality, and social action are actually the same weird beast --------The Mind Bod Adventure Pod is a community-supported project. If you like these adventures, consider helping us keep the lights on with a paid subscription! ❤️-------- This episode isn’t about adding more stuff to do—it’s about seeing that your life, exactly as it is, is already the practice. Oren has a way of making wisdom feel like a quiet ‘of course!” you forgot you knew—the kind that lands gently, like a deep breath or a long walk in the park. Let us know in the comments what thoughts, feels & practice revelations wiggled loose for you during this episode! -------- The Afterparty PS… Big Afterparty Upgrade Incoming! 🚀 The Pod is about to get way weirder… Instead of just lil Afterparty snippets tacked onto episodes, we’re turning these sessions into full bi-weekly episodes. That means just the two of us, showing up candidly—diving into the questions, quandaries, and delightful existential messes arising in our own lives. We’ll talk, unpack, guide short practices, sing, dance—who knows what else—all in the spirit of bringing you deeper into our weird worlds as practitioners, teachers, and friends. Coming very soon - Stay tuned! 🎉 K, That’s all for this week. Thanks for tuning in! Love always, 🧘🏽‍♀️ Tasha & Jeff 🧘🏼‍♂️ Get full access to The Mind Bod Adventure Pod at www.mindbodpod.com/subscribe

    51 min
  5. Ayahuasca & Spiritual Care with Celina De Leon

    JAN 21

    Ayahuasca & Spiritual Care with Celina De Leon

    This week, we go deep into the spiritual heart of psychedelics with Celina de Leon, founder of the Circle of Sacred Nature Church, and adjunct faculty at the Graduate Theological Union. Celina has spent 20 years working with ayahuasca – or yagé, as it’s known in the Kamentsa indigenous community of Colombia, her root lineage. We talk about the contemplative practice of yagé, its unique characteristics, and how it opens us up to benefits beyond individual mental health. So much goodness! The main thing is we go into ceremony – we experience how the deliberateness and care of ceremony takes us into the sacred present. In Celina’s guided practice, we feel into the mystery of this and try to articulate the remembering that happens… although, of course, no words can ever be adequate. So friends, come experience it with us :) The Afterparty (watch at mindbodpod.com) Tasha and Jeff get personal about some of the benefits of exploring psychedelics over the long-term, but also some of the ways they can be destabilizing. No one needs to do psychedelics, but if you do, be responsible: Find an experienced community that understands how to hold a safe container, and …. pace yourself! We also get into a great discussion about how to think about teachers and communities of practice at a time when there are not enough deeply experienced teachers to go around. Let us know in the comments how this practice was for you! K, That’s all for this week. Thanks for tuning in! Love always, 🧘🏽‍♀️ Tasha & Jeff 🧘🏼‍♂️ Get full access to The Mind Bod Adventure Pod at www.mindbodpod.com/subscribe

    52 min
  6. No Enemies with Cara Lai

    JAN 7

    No Enemies with Cara Lai

    Cara Lai is awesome. That’s the first thing to say. She is humble and real and willing to explore a heated topic without having any easy prepared answers. Backtrack! Cara is a dharma teacher, artist, Mom and former therapist. These days she mostly teaches meditation retreats and a fun online drop-in class called “Meditate Your Face Off!” (Jeff: Be still my heart.) Our subject is the shitstorm happening on planet earth – in the Middle East, the Ukraine, the US, and other hot spots – and whether everyone should be speaking out. We recorded the episode back in May 2024; things are no less urgent today, seven months later. People have very strong opinions on these issues, and very strong opinions both about what should be said, and who should be saying it. We talk about things like: * How we can approach polarizing conversations * What role anger and shame play in how we relate to each other * How mindfulness and compassion might move us in a different direction Cara’s guided mindfulness practice comes late in the episode, at 34 minutes. It’s a compassionate inquiry into what’s happening for us – in this moment – that we feel we can’t bear. “It’s hard to have a heart,” she says. In learning to stay present with our own experience, we also learn to stay present with others, even those we disagree with. The episode ends with a conversation about belonging, trust, and sharing our unique gifts with the world. Thank you Cara! LINKS * Cara’s website: caralai.org * Cara’s Podcast: adventuresinmeditating.com The Afterparty Where Tasha and Jeff chat about global culture, neurodiversity, and the privilege of living in this time. What new creative responses to the world’s challenges are waiting to emerge? That, friends, is the true promise, which Jeff immediately degrades in the final two minutes, when he curses and asks for money and then gargle-chokes on some grapefruit LaCroix bubbly water. The whole denouement is exceedingly stupid and immature and should have been cut – but! –well, it made Tasha laugh very hard. And that’s what matters. AND NOW: SOME EXCITING NEWS! We’re stoked to announce our first Mind Bod Adventure Squad Retreat. It’s an opportunity to get wild and embodied and very present with us. It’s going down at the Omega Institute, June 8-13, 2025. We love our community and want to practice with you IN PERSON. Come explore! REGISTER HERE K, That’s all for this week. Thanks for tuning in! Love always, 🧘🏽‍♀️ Tasha & Jeff 🧘🏼‍♂️ Get full access to The Mind Bod Adventure Pod at www.mindbodpod.com/subscribe

    57 min
  7. Realizing Freedom Together with Caverly Morgan

    12/17/2024

    Realizing Freedom Together with Caverly Morgan

    In this episode we welcome Caverly Morgan, former Zen monk and author of The Heart of Who We Are. Caverly is also the founder of Peace in Schools, a teen-centered mindfulness curriculum for teens. We jump right into it with a discussion of how teens very naturally want to challenge many of the culture’s bogus assumptions – in her words, teens “are on fire with wanting to dismantle what’s not real.” We start with a beautiful breath practice that Caverly uses in high school classrooms. “Dental-mental floss”: back and forth through the center, expanding and grounding. From there, we discuss goodies like: * the primacy of subjective experience* letting go of the need to find the “right way”* shifting towards what works for your situation and what helps you suffer less* the role of lineages and teachers* the joys of many practices … and how none of them may even be going anywhere! The Afterparty (Watch at www.mindbodbpod.com) In this week’s party time, we wax excitedly about concerns that are close to our hearts, which is to say WEIRD SPIRITUAL S**T. We discuss whether there is a universal direction in the contemplative path, one true in all cultures (if so, what might that be?). We talk about how different practices are designed to address different problems or needs, and how these change from culture to culture, person to person, and even - within each person - week to week and moment to moment! NB: there’s a lot of thumbs up emojis in this… Tasha’s macbook was going berserk and apparently fervently agreeing with everythign we said 👍🎉 Enjoy! *The Afterparty will move behind the paywall in January! For real this time! Become a paid subscriber to continue being privy to these strange discussions… Let us know in the comments how these practices landed for you! K, That’s all for now. Thanks for tuning in! Love always, 🧘🏽‍♀️ Tasha & Jeff 🧘🏼‍♂️ Get full access to The Mind Bod Adventure Pod at www.mindbodpod.com/subscribe

    52 min
    4.9
    out of 5
    214 Ratings

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