Been There Got Out Podcast

Chris & Lisa
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Chris and Lisa of BeenThereGotOut.com both survived toxic marriages with narcissistic partners and the legal and co-parenting nightmares that go hand-in-hand with all of that.If you are struggling in a high-conflict relationship, divorce, custody battle, or co-parenting hell which requires PERSONALIZED attention, let us HOLD YOUR HAND along the way, while providing EXPERT, STRATEGIC guidance based on one's years of success (representing myself in court!), coupled with the other's High Conflict Divorce Coach certification.Our podcast features interviews with lawyers, therapists, co-parenting coordinators, guardians ad litem, and other subject matter experts, as well as other content, all with one goal in mind: Let us teach you how to HELP YOURSELF!

  1. 5d ago

    The Science of Self-Medication: Trauma, PTSD & Substance Use After Abuse

    If you've been living in a high-conflict divorce or custody battle, you probably know that feeling all too well — the exhaustion that never quite leaves, the hypervigilance, the sense that your nervous system has forgotten how to relax. And for many people in these situations, a glass of wine at the end of the day has quietly become two, or three, or something stronger. Not because of weakness. Because of science. In this episode, Lisa sits down with Dr. Christal Badour, a licensed clinical psychologist and professor at the University of Kentucky, where she runs a research lab focused on trauma recovery and the intersection of PTSD and substance use disorders. Dr. Badour's work is dedicated to understanding why trauma and substance use co-occur so frequently — and more importantly, how to help people break that cycle. What you'll learn in this conversation will likely change the way you see yourself. 📌 WHAT WE COVER IN THIS EPISODE Dr. Badour opens by challenging one of the most persistent misconceptions in our space — the idea that trauma means a single catastrophic event. For people experiencing legal abuse, coercive control, and ongoing post-separation conflict, the damage often looks different: a chronic, lower-level activation of the stress response that erodes you over time. It's not a capital-T Trauma, but it creates many of the same consequences. From there, Lisa and Dr. Badour explore the self-medication hypothesis — the well-researched mechanism by which people dealing with painful experiences reach for substances to quiet their nervous systems. If you've ever needed something to take the edge off just to get through the day, this conversation is for you. Dr. Badour explains this not as a character flaw, but as a neurological response to overwhelming stress. The conversation takes a hopeful turn when Dr. Badour explains that you don't have to wait until the legal process is over to begin healing. Emerging research — much of it developed in military settings — shows that trauma treatment can actually begin even while the threat is still present. This is enormously important for BTGO listeners who are still in the middle of custody battles, still receiving hostile texts, still dreading the next court date. You'll also hear a moving story about one of Dr. Badour's clients — a woman who hadn't worn shorts in years because of the shame she carried from a sexual assault. The moment she walked into a therapy session in shorts? A powerful reminder of what real recovery looks like. 🕐 TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Introduction — The Connection Between Trauma and Substance Use 01:45 Meet Dr. Christal Badour — Psychologist, Researcher, University of Kentucky 03:20 What Mental Health Professionals Mean by "Trauma" vs. What We Mean Everyday 06:10 Chronic Stress vs. Single-Incident Trauma — Why Ongoing Abuse Creates the Same Damage 09:30 Legal Abuse and the Nervous System — When the Threat Never Ends 12:00 Can You Start Healing Before You're Safe? What the Research Now Shows 15:40 The Self-Medication Hypothesis — Why Substances "Work" in the Short Term 20:15 Why Avoidance Feels Like Relief but Blocks Long-Term Recovery 23:30 How Substance Use Interferes With the Brain's Natural Processing of Trauma 27:00 Evidence-Based Treatment Approaches: Skills-Based vs. Trauma-Focused Therapy 31:50 EMDR, Written Exposure, and Approaches That Don't Require Talking About It 35:20 Animal-Assisted Therapy, Equine Therapy, and Complementary Approaches 38:40 Why Joy and Connection Are Also Part of Healing (Not Just Symptom Reduction) 41:10 AA, NA, Harm Reduction, and Choosing the Right Door for Where You Are 44:30 How to Support a Loved One Who Is Struggling 48:00 Success Stories — When the Shame Finally Lifts 51:00 Where to Find Dr. Badour | scienceforsurvivors.com

    36 min

  2. Jun 22

    How to Stop Your Brain from Panicking at Every Text from Your Toxic Ex

    You know that feeling. Your phone buzzes. You see their name. And before you can even read the message, your heart is racing, your chest tightens, and you can barely think straight. You're not overreacting. You're not weak. Your brain has been literally wired by trauma to respond to that notification as if your life is in danger — because for a long time, it was. In this episode, Lisa sits down with Max Weigand, a positive psychologist from Germany and the creator of Psychosomatic Intelligence — a method that brings together the science of the mind, subconscious beliefs, and nervous system mastery to help people who are stuck in chronic fight-or-flight finally break free. If you're navigating high-conflict divorce, shared custody with a narcissistic ex, or family court proceedings, what Max shares in this conversation isn't just inspiring — it's immediately practical. Because the same nervous system that's been hijacked by years of abuse is the one you're being asked to perform with in court, in mediation, and in every co-parenting communication you send. Here's what makes this conversation so powerful for where you are right now: ✅ Why negative emotions literally shut down your prefrontal cortex — the part of your brain responsible for logic, reasoning, and staying calm on the witness stand ✅ The reason your brain can't tell the difference between a real threat and a text message from your ex — and why that's not a flaw, it's a survival feature you can learn to override ✅ What Max calls your 'emotional home' — the default emotional state you keep returning to — and how to identify whether yours is working for you or against you ✅ The 'reality filter' concept and why people stuck in victimhood aren't being dramatic — their brains are literally filtering out evidence of anything good ✅ Simple, free morning practices (journaling, gratitude, visualization, mindful tea) that Max says can rewire the brain's neural pathways — especially if used during the critical theta window right after waking ✅ The famous 'golden crocodile' demonstration that shows, in real-time, why trying NOT to think about something backfires every time — and what to do instead ✅ Max's take on forgiveness — not as something you do for your ex, but as the practice of learning to stop swallowing the poison Lisa makes a point in this conversation that will resonate with so many of you: the moment you hear a ding from your phone that might be a message from your abusive ex is the perfect example of the brain treating an imagined threat as a physical danger. Years after separation, the neurology of abuse is still running in the background. Max explains not just why that happens, but what to actually do about it. This is one of those conversations that feels equally useful whether you're deep in the legal battle right now or years out and still feeling the weight of it. The tools work at any stage — and they work faster if you're starting from a harder place. ⏱ TIMESTAMPS 00:00 — Introduction: Max's core philosophy — the further down you are, the more potential you have 02:09 — Why mastering the nervous system matters more than just changing your mindset 04:41 — Max introduces himself and Psychosomatic Intelligence 05:43 — How emotional dysregulation destroys decision-making — the prefrontal cortex goes offline 09:33 — Why your brain can't tell the difference between a real threat and a vivid memory or imagination 10:33 — The 'notification ding' effect: your body's panic response to a text from your ex 12:00 — Neural pathways: why the fear response gets stronger every time you repeat the pattern 12:27 — What is Psychosomatic Intelligence? The three-system alignment model 13:58 — Step 1: Awareness — identifying your 'emotional home' 16:33 — The mind-body feedback loop: how physical tension amplifies emotional states 17:01 — Projecting your body state onto other people — why a bad night's sleep creates conflict 17:25 — 'Living in victimhood': how the brain's reality filter traps you in suffering 19:14 — The reticular activating system: your brain's filter and how to reset it 20:33 — Practical tool: the 'what's going right' morning question 21:10 — Lisa's recommendation: 10 minutes of fun every day to balance stress hormones 21:20 — Abraham Lincoln and the sharp axe: why you can't afford NOT to pause 23:05 — Lisa shares her morning journaling practice and how it changed her days 24:00 — The theta window: why morning and evening are the most powerful times to rewire your brain 25:33 — The neuroplasticity moment: why it doesn't matter if you journal, visualize, or just drink tea 26:40 — The 'golden crocodile' live demonstration: why 'don't think about it' never works 27:38 — The pink fluffy unicorn: replace, don't resist — the neuroscience of positive focus 29:01 — Forgiveness: not about the other person — about choosing not to swallow the poison 29:25 — Lisa on 'apathy as freedom' and the goal of emotional peace 29:44 — Nikos Kazantzakis quote: 'I want nothing. I fear nothing. I am free.' 30:13 — Wrap-up and how to find Max

    33 min

  3. Jun 18

    Mediation With a Narcissist: What Actually Works

    If you’ve been told that mediation is impossible when you’re dealing with a high-conflict ex—or that it’s never safe when there’s been domestic violence—this conversation with New York family law attorney Ian Steinberg is going to challenge that assumption. Ian is a matrimonial attorney with Burkman Botker Newman & Shane, a 25-attorney firm based in Manhattan with offices in Westchester and Long Island. He joins Lisa Johnson of Been There Got Out for his second appearance on the show, and this time the focus is entirely on mediation—what it is, what it isn’t, and how to navigate it when your ex has a history of coercive control, manipulation, or abuse. The family court system is broken. Ian doesn’t sugarcoat that. The system wasn’t designed to handle what targeted parents deal with every day, and being forced into litigation often just gives an abusive ex another arena to exert power. That’s why understanding your alternatives—including the different forms of mediation—matters so much.In this episode, Ian breaks down a distinction that most people don’t know exists: Capital M Mediation versus lowercase m mediation. Capital M is the classic format—just you, your ex, and a neutral third party working toward agreement. Lowercase m covers a broader range of attorney-assisted, structured alternatives that can be more appropriate when power imbalances are a serious concern.He also introduces something Lisa and Chris have seen work with their own clients: the use of retired family court judges as mediators. These aren’t people with formal mediation authority—but they bring decades of experience sitting on the bench, and sometimes that gravitas is exactly what it takes to get a controlling ex to actually listen and move.If you are a domestic violence survivor wondering whether mediation is even an option for you, Ian’s answer is: sometimes yes, if the right guardrails are in place. He’s clear about when it shouldn’t happen—when the power dynamic is so extreme that you simply can’t withstand it, or when the conflict is too fresh to be productive. But he also explains the tools that can make it safer, including virtual Zoom-based shuttle negotiation, where the parties never have to share a screen or a room. Before you walk into any mediation session, Ian says three things matter most: talk to your attorney beforehand, work with your coach to manage your emotions and know your triggers, and make a clear list of your asks. And remember—nothing is final until you put pen to paper. You are allowed to say, “This sounds interesting. Let me think about it and speak to my attorney.” That is not weakness. That is informed consent. The cost savings of resolving even some issues through mediation can be staggering. Every issue you settle is one that doesn’t have to be litigated. Going from ten contested issues to two is real progress—and it also signals to the court that you’ve made a genuine effort to cooperate, which matters. Whether mediation is right for you depends on your specific situation. That’s why working with coaches who understand high-conflict dynamics—and who can help you prepare strategically—is so valuable. Lisa and Chris offer a free 30-minute discovery call where they can help you assess your situation and figure out the right next steps. ➡️ Book your free call: https://beentheregotout.com/ ➡️ Follow us on Instagram: @been_there_got_out Connect with Ian Steinberg: https://www.berkbot.com/attorneys/ian-steinberg/

    29 min

  4. Jun 15

    "Am I Going to Lose My Child to Alienation?" A Psychologist Answers

    If you've ever found yourself paralyzed by the fear that your ex is slowly turning your children against you and there's nothing you can do about it, this conversation is for you. In this episode of Been There Got Out, Lisa Johnson sits down with Dr. Alicia del Prado, a licensed counseling psychologist based in the San Francisco Bay Area, to talk about one of the most painful experiences a parent can go through: parental alienation. But rather than focusing only on what's happening, Dr. del Prado brings her clinical expertise to what you can actually do — specific, grounded strategies to prevent alienation from taking hold, minimize its impact when it has already started, and stay psychologically intact through all of it. One of the most important things she says: fear is a filter. When we're operating from that deep, primal terror of losing our kids, we make decisions that can actually make things worse — not because we're bad parents, but because our nervous system is in survival mode. Understanding that is the first step toward changing it. WHAT YOU'LL LEARN IN THIS EPISODE: ✅ What parental alienation actually is — and why it affects an estimated 22 million divorced and separated parents in the US and Canada alone ✅ Why feeling hopeless about parental alienation is understandable — and what to focus on instead ✅ How fear acts as a "filter" that distorts your decisions and what to do about it without suppressing your emotions ✅ The most common misconceptions people have about alienation — both from inside the situation and from the outside ✅ How to support a friend or family member going through parental alienation without saying the wrong thing ✅ How to use your child's love language to stay connected even when they're pushing you away ✅ What to do when your child screams at you, ignores you, or says they hate you ✅ The micro goals framework: how to keep showing up consistently even when you see no results ✅ Why children in these situations usually do come back — and what gives them the courage to TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 — Introduction: Why we're revisiting this conversation (audio issues from previous recording) 01:10 — What parental alienation actually is: a definition from a clinical psychologist 02:30 — The 22 million statistic: how widespread parental alienation really is 03:15 — Dr. del Prado's personal background and why this topic is close to her heart 04:30 — "I feel like it's destined" — addressing the hopelessness alienated parents feel 06:00 — Fear is a filter: how trauma responses hijack parenting decisions in high-conflict situations 08:15 — Misconceptions about parental alienation from the inside: why catastrophizing makes it worse 10:00 — Misconceptions from the outside: what friends and family get wrong and how to ask for support 12:30 — The Constructive Conversations model (with Dr. Anastasia Kim) for difficult dialogue 14:15 — Using love languages with alienated children: quality time, words of affirmation, gift giving, touch 17:00 — When your child doesn't respond to your love language efforts: the power of repetition 18:30 — Reliability and consistency: why attachment is built over time, not in a single reunion 20:00 — When children are openly hostile: what to do in the moment when your child screams at you 22:45 — Self-regulation tools for targeted parents (including Marsha Linehan's distress tolerance skills) 24:30 — Setting limits with your child during a hostile encounter without escalating 26:00 — Micro goals: why big reunion fantasies set you up to fail — and what works instead 28:30 — Making micro goals about your behavior, not your child's response 30:15 — Do alienated children come back? What the statistics actually show 31:30 — How to find Dr. del Prado and her practice ABOUT DR. ALICIA DEL PRADO: Dr. Alicia del Prado is a licensed counseling psychologist and the founder of a group practice in the San Francisco Bay Area. Her clinical work spans children, adults, families, and couples navigating relationship challenges, depression, anxiety, and trauma. Dr. del Prado brings both professional expertise and personal perspective to the topic of parental alienation — as a child of divorced parents herself, she understands both the systemic challenges families face and the emotional complexity children carry through these transitions. She is co-developer (with Dr. Anastasia Kim) of the Constructive Conversations model, a step-by-step approach to having difficult but necessary dialogues with people we care about. CONNECT WITH DR. DEL PRADO on Instagram: @DoctorDelPrado & @DelPradoCounseling

    21 min

  5. Jun 11

    How to Survive a Parenting Coordinator When Your Ex Won't Cooperate

    If you've been ordered into parenting coordination, or you're wondering whether a parenting coordinator could help your high-conflict custody case, this conversation is for you. Lisa sits down with Nicole Sodoma, a family law attorney with 26 years of experience, founding partner of Sodoma Law (seven locations across the Carolinas), and a practicing parenting coordinator since 2005. What makes Nicole's perspective uniquely powerful is that she's not just an expert — she's a targeted parent who has personally worked with three different parenting coordinators since her own separation in 2019. She knows this process from every angle. Together, they break down what a parenting coordinator actually does, who gets one (and why), what the most common and costly mistakes parents make are, and the practical communication and documentation strategies that can help you stop making them — starting today. Whether your parenting coordinator seems to be favoring your ex, you're confused about what decisions they can and can't make, or you're just trying to understand how to use this process strategically, Nicole gives you a clear, honest roadmap. 🕐 TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Introduction — Who is Nicole Sodoma? 01:20 What is a parenting coordinator, and how does it connect to reducing conflict outside of court? 03:45 What qualifies as a "high conflict case" — the legal definition from North Carolina statute 06:10 Can a parenting coordinator tell right away who is high conflict? 08:30 Lawyer PC vs. mental health professional PC — which one should you choose? 11:00 Do parenting coordinators ever talk to your kids or observe exchanges? 13:20 Parenting coordinator vs. guardian ad litem vs. custody evaluator — what's the difference? 16:00 Nicole's personal story: three parenting coordinators after her 2019 separation 21:15 What happens when one party just won't cooperate with the PC process 24:30 Guardrails and impasse clauses — why your parenting plan needs them even without a PC 28:00 Legal decision-making areas: education, medical, extracurricular, religion — and now technology 31:00 Mistakes parents make — the full laundry list from Nicole 31:30 Mistake #1: Over-communicating with your toxic ex (and how to stop) 34:00 Bill Eddy's BIFF method and understanding high-conflict personalities 36:15 BTGO's Strategic Communication course — why communication is everything 38:00 Mistake #2: Reacting emotionally instead of strategically — the "knee jerk response" 40:30 Mistake #3: Choosing to win over choosing resolution 43:00 Mistake #4: Failing to recognize the real impact on your children 46:00 The 7-38-55 rule: why what you say matters less than how you say it 49:15 Mistake #5: Social media — why that post never feels as good as you think it will 52:30 Mistake #6: Not documenting patterns (and how to do it right) 55:45 BTGO's approach to targeted documentation — the "Super Bowl commercial" concept 58:00 Recording exchanges — when it helps and when it can backfire 01:01:00 Nicole's top 3 practical tips: shared children's email, school communication, blended family planning 01:06:00 Technology in parenting plans — social media rules, Apple accounts, and age parameters 01:09:00 How to find Nicole Sodoma + her book "Please Don't Say You're Sorry" 01:11:00 Closing thoughts and takeaways If this conversation helped you, please subscribe, leave a review, and share it with someone who needs it. You are not alone in this. #ParentingCoordinator #HighConflictDivorce #CustodyBattle #CoParenting #FamilyLaw #NicoleSodoma #ParentingPlan #StrategicCommunication #ParentalAlienation #BeenThereGotOut

    45 min

  6. Jun 8

    What a Guardian Ad Litem Actually Cares About

    What does a Guardian Ad Litem really think when a 10-year-old says they want 50/50 custody? Crystal Wright has heard it hundreds of times — and she can tell instantly when a child has been coached. As a family law attorney AND a working GAL in Atlanta, Georgia, Crystal is one of the rare practitioners who has seen the custody system from every angle: as the attorney fighting for clients, as the neutral investigator protecting children, and as the professional who has had exactly one parent incarcerated for defying her court orders. In this conversation, Crystal joins Lisa Johnson to unpack one of the most contentious questions in family law: when should a child's voice be allowed to decide their custody arrangement — and when should it be completely disregarded? The answer, Crystal says, has nothing to do with how articulate or advanced your child is. It has everything to do with whether the language they're using sounds like an actual child — or like someone's lawyer. What You'll Learn in This Episode: ✅ How GALs instantly detect when a child has been coached — and what specific language is a dead giveaway ✅ Why "I want 50/50 custody" coming from a 10-year-old should raise immediate red flags ✅ What the 'borrowed scenarios' phenomenon looks like in a real investigation ✅ How Crystal visits kids at their schools — without telling the parents — and why she always gets new information ✅ The real impact on children when they're put in the middle: clinical depression, self-harm, 17-year-olds calling their GAL crying at 10pm ✅ At what ages (11 and 14 in Georgia) a child's preference becomes legally relevant — and why that still doesn't mean they get to choose ✅ The non-negotiable case for reunification therapy — and what Crystal does to parents who try to block it ✅ How to find a qualified GAL and what to look for in a mental health expert for an older, refusing child ✅ What to do when your child won't see you: Crystal's direct advice to rejected parents ⏱️ Timestamps: 00:00 — Introduction: How Lisa and Crystal met at the Bridging the Gap conference in London 01:45 — How a GAL tells the difference: coached child vs. genuine preference 04:30 — Crystal's background: family law attorney, boutique firm in Atlanta, and why she loves GAL work 06:00 — Advanced children vs. coached children: why intelligence isn't the issue 08:15 — "I want 50/50" — why that phrase signals coaching immediately 10:00 — Age and preference in Georgia: the affidavit of election at 11, determinative weight at 14 13:30 — Why Crystal stopped having children sign affidavits of election 15:45 — The 17-year-old: even at near-adulthood, best interest analysis still controls 18:00 — Reaction to New Jersey's ruling: what does it mean for children's long-term wellbeing? 21:00 — Why Crystal visits children at their schools — without telling parents — and what she learns 23:30 — Children and truth-telling: parroting, fawning, and protecting a parent 26:00 — Loyalty conflicts: the real emotional impact on children stuck in the middle 29:00 — Clinical depression, self-harm, and older kids calling Crystal crying at 10pm 32:00 — Older children refusing contact: how to make the case for intervention to the court 35:00 — Reunification therapy: Crystal has never been denied an order for it — and here's why 38:30 — What happens to parents who block reunification therapy: contempt motions and incarceration 41:00 — What kind of expert witness to bring in for an older refusing child 43:30 — False allegations and fake documents: how they're handled in investigation 46:00 — How to find a good GAL and what qualifications actually matter 48:30 — How to prepare your child for a GAL interview (and what NOT to say) 51:00 — Advice for rejected parents: don't give up, keep reaching out, send birthday gifts 54:00 — Memory, photographs, and why fighting for a child who doesn't want you right now still matters 56:30 — How to find Crystal Wright and closing remarks 💬 Connect with Crystal Wright: Instagram: @crystalwrightlawga Website: https://crystalwrightlaw.com/

    40 min

  7. Jun 4

    He Was Alienated From All 4 Kids... Then His Daughter Made This Call

    He hadn't heard from one of his four daughters in four years. Then she reached out. And the first thing she said changed everything. Jon McKenzie, founder of @malevictimsoffemalenarcissists (IG) and a returning BTGO guest, joins Lisa to share something that happened just two weeks before this recording: his adult daughter reached out after four years of complete silence, asked to rebuild their relationship, and opened with the words every alienated parent needs to hear: "I'm very sorry for the words I said. My words were very hurtful and disrespectful." If you've been told to "just wait," or you're wondering whether your adult children will ever come back, this conversation is the living proof that they can. And it gives you a philosophy and a framework for surviving the wait. IN THIS CONVERSATION: The two types of parental alienation — legally imposed separation vs. the quiet, psychological erosion that's often more devastating Why Jon chose not to divorce until his kids were out of high school — and whether, looking back, that was the right call The prodigal son framework: how Jon made peace with not chasing his children — and what 'waiting with open arms' actually costs a parent emotionally What his daughter said the moment she reached out — and why Jon didn't pull his punches in their first conversation How reconciliation with one adult child is opening a possible door with a second — while a third may be permanently enmeshed with their mother Why Jon refused to badmouth his ex to his children — even after years of alienation — and why he believes that was the single most important thing he did What he says to the client who says: 'If one more person tells me the kids will just figure it out, I'm going to lose my mind' GUEST INFO: Jon McKenzie Male Victims of Female Narcissists https://malevictimsoffemalenarcissists.com Jon's Instagram: @malevictimsoffemalenarcissists

    39 min

  8. Jun 1

    How to Negotiate with a Toxic Ex When You Feel Powerless

    Facing a negotiation with your high-conflict ex can feel like showing up to a battle already defeated — especially when they have more money, more confidence, or a better attorney. But corporate negotiation expert Lynn Price says the power imbalance you're feeling may be less real than you think. What IS real is whether you make the ask. Lynn spent 25 years as in-house corporate counsel and completed over 11,000 negotiations. In this conversation with Lisa Johnson, she breaks down her Three Rs Framework — Ready, Relatable, and Reasonable — and explains exactly how to apply it when you're co-parenting with someone determined to make your life miserable. In this episode, you'll learn: - The one mindset shift that lets you make the ask even when you feel powerless - How to use the 'have to haves / helpful haves / hopeful haves' system to walk into mediation with a clear, strategic game plan - Why you must stop talking after you make a request — and how to handle the silence - The acting technique that protects your most important priorities (your ex will never see it coming) - How to build enough rapport with a difficult person to actually move the negotiation forward - A general rule from a retired army general that will keep you out of trouble in every difficult conversation - Why practicing out loud — even to your mirror or your dog — can change how you show up in mediation - How to use AI to prepare for your next difficult conversation with your co-parent Lisa and Lynn also explore the difference between negotiation and mediation, the psychology of letting the other side 'win' things that don't actually matter, and why knowing your 'walk-away' point before you sit down is one of the most powerful moves you can make. This isn't just theory — Lynn spent nearly 14 years in the construction industry, where her company had no leverage, going up against huge players and still getting what they needed. Her approach works on everyone from Fortune 500 executives to toxic co-parents. And it can work for you. If you're heading into custody mediation, a co-parenting negotiation, or just trying to get your ex to switch a weekend, this conversation will change how you approach it. About Lynn Price: Lynn Price is a negotiation speaker, trainer, and attorney. She spent over 25 years as in-house corporate counsel, completing more than 11,000 negotiations. Website: lynnpriceconsulting.com Book: 'Negotiate It!' on Amazon 📲 FOLLOW US: Instagram: @been_there_got_out #negotiationtips #highconflictdivorce #custodymediation #coparenting #toxicex #narcissistdivorce #custodybattle #divorcecoach #parentalalienation #familycourt

    38 min
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Chris and Lisa of BeenThereGotOut.com both survived toxic marriages with narcissistic partners and the legal and co-parenting nightmares that go hand-in-hand with all of that.If you are struggling in a high-conflict relationship, divorce, custody battle, or co-parenting hell which requires PERSONALIZED attention, let us HOLD YOUR HAND along the way, while providing EXPERT, STRATEGIC guidance based on one's years of success (representing myself in court!), coupled with the other's High Conflict Divorce Coach certification.Our podcast features interviews with lawyers, therapists, co-parenting coordinators, guardians ad litem, and other subject matter experts, as well as other content, all with one goal in mind: Let us teach you how to HELP YOURSELF!

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  • Creator
    Chris & Lisa
  • Years Active
    2022 - 2026
  • Episodes
    365
  • Rating
    Clean
  • Copyright
    © 2026 BTGO, LLC
  • Show Website
    Been There Got Out Podcast

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