The Awareness to Action Enneagram Podcast

Mario Sikora, Maria Jose Munita and Seth Creekmore exploring the Enneagram through the Awareness to Action model. Giving you simple, precise and effective tools to use in your own becoming

  1. 3d ago

    Review Overview: Enneagram Subtypes Four, Five, & Six

    This is a re-release compilation of three earlier Awareness to Action episodes (43, 49, and 50, first released in June and August 2023), edited into one listen that covers all three subtypes of Type Four, Type Five, and Type Six. Mario Sikora, María José Munita, and Seth “Creek” Creekmore work from one framework throughout: the instinctual bias is what a person is after, and the strategy is how they go about getting it. For the Fours, Mario frames each subtype as an art. The preserving Four makes an art of the nest, building understated elegance into clothes, cars, and homes (a client’s deep purple Porsche, Don Riso’s training center). The navigating Four makes an art of finding its place in the group, fitting in while standing out, and is often mistyped as a Seven or a Nine. The transmitting Four needs to bring something into the world that reflects them, and the hosts use Steve Jobs as their case study in vision, refinement, and a blind spot for office politics. For the Fives, the preserving Five builds buffers (automated bills, fixed routines, the same outfit every day, or just as often a hoard) and has the flattest affect of the three. The navigating Five shows the sharpest pull between instinctual bias and strategy, engaging with the group and then withdrawing, and avoids conflict for a different reason than a Nine does. The transmitting Five delivers an “information blizzard” without always reading the room, which the hosts illustrate with Sheldon Cooper, Sherlock Holmes, and Dr. Gregory House. For the Sixes, the preserving Six gets a double dose of security focus and watches for what could go wrong rather than what is wrong, which is how the hosts separate it from a One. The navigating Six is the loyal tribe member who is always monitoring the group, and it helps when asked rather than proactively, which sets it apart from a Two. The transmitting Six, often called counterphobic, needs to stand out while staying on alert, and at its best becomes the protective head of the family. Throughout, the hosts return to one caution: a behavior is not a subtype, because the same need can be met in opposite ways. Because the audio is cut from the original series, the conversation joins each type already in progress; Introduction to Subtypes (episode 39) covers the definitions, and episode 163 covers Types One, Two, and Three. Chapters0:00:00 Preserving Four: The Art of the Nest 0:11:20 Preserving Four: Pattern of Expression and Work 0:20:58 Navigating Four: Fitting In While Standing Out 0:38:38 Transmitting Four: Bringing a Vision Into the World 0:46:43 Preserving Five: Detached Preserving 0:53:46 Preserving Five: The Flattest Affect 0:59:48 Navigating Five: Engage, Then Withdraw 1:04:35 Navigating Five vs. Type Nine 1:07:27 Transmitting Five: The Information Blizzard 1:15:03 Preserving Six: Securing the Nest 1:22:58 Preserving Six vs. Type Two and Type One 1:24:33 Navigating Six: Loyal to the Tribe 1:33:38 Transmitting Six: Standing Out While on Alert 1:38:52 Transmitting Six and Leadership Resources mentioned in this episodeInstinctual Leadership — Mario Sikora (book) — Mario points listeners to its descriptions of all the subtypes.Steve Jobs — Walter Isaacson (book) — Mario calls the biography a case study in the transmitting Four.Silver Linings Playbook (film) — Robert De Niro’s over-the-top Eagles fan as an example of a navigating Six.The Big Bang Theory (TV series) — Sheldon Cooper as an extreme example of a transmitting Five.Sherlock (TV series) — Benedict Cumberbatch’s Holmes as a transmitting Five.House (TV series) — Dr. Gregory House, also a transmitting Five, who reads people well only when he decides to.Braveheart (film) — Mario’s example of a healthy, heroic transmitting Six. Related resourcesIntroduction to Subtypes (episode 39) — how the hosts define subtypes, and how the Awareness to Action approach differs from the common view.Review Overview: Enneagram Subtypes One, Two, & Three (episode 163) — the first compilation in this series.Subtypes of Enneagram Type Four (episode 43) — the original conversation behind the first part of this compilation.Subtypes of Enneagram Type 5 (episode 49) — the original conversation behind the second part.Subtypes of Enneagram Type Six (episode 50) — the original conversation behind the third part.Awareness to Action Website — the hub for the podcast network, certification program, and core framework resources. Connect with us: Awareness to Action ATA on Demand IG: @ataenneagrampod YouTube: ATA Podcast Network Email: info@awarenesstoaction.com Send a voice message: speakpipe.com/AwarenesstoAction Mario Sikora: IG: @mariosikora TikTok: @mariosikora Web: mariosikora.com Pod: Enneagram in a Movie Pod: Thinking Well & Why Substack: mariosikora.substack.com Book: How to Think Well, and Why: The Awareness to Action Guide to Clear Thinking María José Munita: IG: @mjmunita Web: mjmunita.com Seth "Creek" Creekmore: IG: @_creekmore Pod: Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast Pod: Delusional Optimism Pod: International Enneagram Association Podcast Pod: Thinking Well & Why

  2. Oct 15

    Review Overview: Enneagram Subtypes One, Two, & Three

    This is a re-release compilation of three earlier Awareness to Action episodes (40, 41, and 42, first released in June 2023), edited into one listen that covers all three subtypes of Type One, Type Two, and Type Three. Mario Sikora, María José Munita, and Seth “Creek” Creekmore work from one framework throughout: the instinctual bias is what a person is after, and the strategy is how they go about getting it. For the Ones, Mario offers a shorthand: the preserving One is thinking “it should” be a certain way, the navigating One “I should,” and the transmitting One “you should.” For the Twos, the hosts push back on dismissing “giving to get” as a flaw, then separate the preserving Two (selective, and the most contradictory of the three), the navigating Two (a connector, often more comfortable as the kingmaker than the king), and the transmitting Two (who narrowcasts connection and can be mistaken for a Four). For the Threes, they argue that the preserving Three is hugely driven rather than unambitious, that the navigating Three reads the group and adapts to it, and that the transmitting Three wants others to be as outstanding as they are trying to be. Throughout, the hosts return to one caution: behaviors are data points, not the whole story, and the “counter type” idea is too simplistic next to the interplay of instinctual bias and strategy. Because the audio is cut from the original series, occasional references to “last time” point back to the earlier subtype episodes; Introduction to Subtypes (episode 39) covers the definitions. Chapters0:00:00 Criteria First: Instinctual Bias and Strategy 0:01:15 Preserving One: Getting the Preserving Domain Right 0:04:06 Data Points, Not the Whole Story 0:07:36 “It Should,” “I Should,” “You Should”: The Three Ones 0:10:50 Navigating One: Perfect Navigation 0:21:57 Transmitting One: Perfecting the World 0:25:34 Common Mistypes of Type One 0:31:27 Preserving Two: Connecting to Meet Preserving Needs 0:45:19 Navigating Two: The Connector 0:53:27 Transmitting Two: Narrowcasting Connection 0:58:59 Transmitting Two vs. Type Four 1:02:04 Preserving Three: Driven and Understated 1:18:40 Navigating Three: The Marketing Mentality 1:30:44 Transmitting Three: Be Like Me Resources mentioned in this episodeSocial Chemistry — Marissa King (book) — Mario mentions this Yale professor’s work on networking styles, which he reads as mapping onto preservers, navigators, and transmitters.Charlie Wilson’s War (film) — Mario’s example of a navigating Two: the Julia Roberts character works behind the scenes, connecting people to advance her agenda.The Odd Couple (play, film, and TV series) — Mario’s example of a One as neat freak: in the TV series the Felix character is a One paired with a Seven; in the film, the pair is a Two and an Eight.Documentary on Mitt Romney after the 2012 election — a host’s example of a preserving Three who needs to be doing something. The host is unsure of the platform, so the title is [needs confirming].Character and Neurosis — Claudio Naranjo — Mario cites Naranjo’s point that the Three’s pattern is normalized in U.S. culture, so no corresponding dysfunction appears in the DSM.Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast — Type Three episode with Drew Moser — Creek’s co-host, recommended as a clearer look at a preserving Three. [needs confirming: episode title and link] Related resourcesIntroduction to Subtypes (episode 39) — how the hosts define subtypes, and how the Awareness to Action approach differs from the common view.Subtypes of Enneagram Type One (episode 40) — the original conversation behind the first part of this compilation.Subtypes of Enneagram Type Two (episode 41) — the original conversation behind the second part.Subtypes of Enneagram Type Three (episode 42) — the original conversation behind the third part.Awareness to Action Website — the hub for the podcast network, certification program, and core framework resources. Connect with us: Awareness to Action ATA on Demand IG: @ataenneagrampod YouTube: ATA Podcast Network Email: info@awarenesstoaction.com Send a voice message: speakpipe.com/AwarenesstoAction Mario Sikora: IG: @mariosikora TikTok: @mariosikora Web: mariosikora.com Pod: Enneagram in a Movie Pod: Thinking Well & Why Substack: mariosikora.substack.com Book: How to Think Well, and Why: The Awareness to Action Guide to Clear Thinking María José Munita: IG: @mjmunita Web: mjmunita.com Seth "Creek" Creekmore: IG: @_creekmore Pod: Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast Pod: Delusional Optimism Pod: International Enneagram Association Podcast Pod: Thinking Well & Why Mentioned in this episode: Awareness to Action Podcast Network

  3. Oct 1 ·  Video

    Type Without Behavior: How to Identify Yours and Why It Matters

    What actually defines your Enneagram type if it's not your behavior? Creek, Mario, and María José explain why type is rooted in a strategy—striving toward a particular feeling—not in stereotypical actions. They show why an Eight can feel insecure, a Three can be lazy, and why that matters. Creek, Mario, and María José tackle a core problem with Enneagram literature: it leans on stereotypes and surface behaviors, but that doesn't work in practice. Type isn't what you do—it's the strategy you use most often. Specifically, you're striving to feel a particular way (powerful, perfect, unique, peaceful, etc.) more than you use the other eight strategies. Everything else varies: behaviors, thoughts, emotional patterns shift based on your circumstances and instinctual bias. The team walks through common misconceptions—Can an Eight feel insecure? Can a Three be lazy? Can a One be messy? Yes to all—and shows how to read past surface behavior to the underlying strategy. They also make a crucial distinction: striving toward a desired feeling state versus running from fear or wounding. That difference changes how type works in coaching, parenting, and your own growth. Chapters00:00 Welcome and Listener Questions 02:36 What Defines a Type Beyond Behavior 07:26 Strategy Includes Thinking and Action Patterns 18:06 How to Identify Your Own Type 28:09 Insecurity, Self-Esteem, and Type Confusion 42:22 Striving Toward vs. Running From: The Core Distinction Resources mentioned in this episodeAwareness to Action — Mario Sikora and Bob Tallon — The foundational text that introduced the 'striving to feel' framework as an alternative to vice-based type definitions.Character Neurosis — Claudio Naranjo — The source of the 'adaptive strategies' concept that inspired the Awareness to Action framework for understanding type.Enneagram in a Movie — Awareness to Action Podcast Network — Sister podcast in the ATA network, recommended by the hosts for ongoing Enneagram learning.Thinking Well and Why — Awareness to Action Podcast Network — Another podcast in the Awareness to Action network exploring critical thinking and the Enneagram.ATA on Demand Certification Program — The Awareness to Action certification program, with new cohorts launching throughout the year. Related resourcesAwareness to Action Website — The official hub for all ATA materials, including the podcast network, certification program, and core framework resources. Mentioned in this episode: Awareness to Action Podcast Network

  4. Sep 17 ·  Video

    Parenting Part Two: Your Instinctual Bias vs. Your Kids' Choices

    In this episode of the Awareness to Action Enneagram podcast, Mario Skora, María José Munita and Seth “Creek” Creekmore talk about real parenting conflicts — tattoos, curfews, meals — and how their instinctual biases shape the fight. They also examine co-parenting across subtypes. These aren't type conflicts. They're instinctual biases colliding. Their kids see them clearly. Mario's principle is that kids have the right to make their own choices once they're legally responsible, while MJ describes her shift from wanting a perfect household to prioritizing trust. Both sets report surprising independence, but the real work comes from consistency, honesty about your own type and adjusting boundaries as kids develop. TIMESTAMPS [00:01] Intro [02:29] Disagreements with parenting decisions [08:29] Ruptures and repairs across the subtypes [14:56] Mario the spy? [18:04] Co-parenting with a different subtype [23:13] Navigating to who their children are [26:20] Wanting to feel like a perfect mother [29:53] Raised by wolves [35:39] How their kids see their parenting style [42:01] What it means to protect Connect with us: Awareness to Action ATA on Demand IG: @ataenneagrampod YouTube: ATA Podcast Network Email: info@awarenesstoaction.com Send a voice message: speakpipe.com/AwarenesstoAction Mario Sikora: IG: @mariosikora TikTok: @mariosikora Web: mariosikora.com Pod: Enneagram in a Movie Pod: Thinking Well & Why Substack: mariosikora.substack.com Book: How to Think Well, and Why: The Awareness to Action Guide to Clear Thinking María José Munita: IG: @mjmunita Web: mjmunita.com Seth "Creek" Creekmore: IG: @_creekmore Pod: Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast Pod: Delusional Optimism Pod: International Enneagram Association Podcast Pod: Thinking Well & Why Mentioned in this episode: Awareness to Action Podcast Network

  5. Sep 3 ·  Video

    Parenting With Enneagram Awareness: Why Labels Limit and Understanding Opens Doors

    In this episode of the Awareness to Action Enneagram podcast, Mario Skora and María José Munita share with Seth “Creek” Creekmore why they deliberately avoid typing their children and how they use it silently to parent better. While they worry it limits them, they instead use the Enneagram framework to spot instinctual biases and behavioral patterns. They talk about concrete parenting tools, such as manners, honesty, unconditional love, and knowing what you can and cannot control, in addition to discussing the pitfalls of typing your own kids that include confirmation bias. This episode serves as a reminder to use the Enneagram to understand, not to lecture or correct. Connect with us: Awareness to Action ATA on Demand IG: @ataenneagrampod YouTube: ATA Podcast Network Email: info@awarenesstoaction.com Send a voice message: speakpipe.com/AwarenesstoAction Mario Sikora: IG: @mariosikora TikTok: @mariosikora Web: mariosikora.com Pod: Enneagram in a Movie Pod: Thinking Well & Why Substack: mariosikora.substack.com Book: How to Think Well, and Why: The Awareness to Action Guide to Clear Thinking María José Munita: IG: @mjmunita Web: mjmunita.com Seth "Creek" Creekmore: IG: @_creekmore Pod: Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast Pod: Delusional Optimism Pod: International Enneagram Association Podcast Pod: Thinking Well & Why Mentioned in this episode: Awareness to Action Podcast Network

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