64 episodes

Welcome to the No Way Out podcast where we examine the variety of domains and disciplines behind John R. Boyd’s OODA sketch and why, today, more than ever, it is an imperative to understand Boyd’s axiomatic sketch of how organisms, individuals, teams, corporations, and governments comprehend, shape, and adapt in our VUCA world.

No Way Out Mark McGrath and Brian "Ponch" Rivera

    • Business
    • 4.8 • 28 Ratings

Welcome to the No Way Out podcast where we examine the variety of domains and disciplines behind John R. Boyd’s OODA sketch and why, today, more than ever, it is an imperative to understand Boyd’s axiomatic sketch of how organisms, individuals, teams, corporations, and governments comprehend, shape, and adapt in our VUCA world.

    Command and Control Systems with S. Anders Christensson

    Command and Control Systems with S. Anders Christensson

    This conversation explores the concepts and principles of command and control, building upon the work of John Boyd. The guest,  S Anders Christensson, discusses the dynamic OODA loop and the design hierarchy in command and control systems. He emphasizes the human-centered nature of command and control, highlighting the importance of understanding the purpose, design criteria, and functions of the system. The conversation also explores the challenges of modeling and simulating complex systems, the role of artificial intelligence in command and control, and the need for agility and continuous learning in adapting to changing environments. 

    Overall, the conversation emphasizes the value of Boyd's work as a foundation for further development and improvement in command and control practices. The conversation explores the concept of the possibility space and the role of affordances in shaping human behavior. The guest, S. Anders Christensson, recommends reading Gibson to gain a deeper understanding of the psychology behind the possibility space. Ponch and Mark expresses enthusiasm for the concept of affordances and its application in mind, time, and space mapping. The conversation concludes with gratitude and an invitation for the guest to return in the future.



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    Recent podcasts where you’ll also find Mark and Ponch:
    Eddy Network Podcast Ep 56 – with Ed Brenegar
    The School of War Ep 84 – with Aaron MacLean
    Spatial Web AI Podcast – with Denise Holt
    OODAcast Ep 113 – with Bob Gourley
    No Fallen Heroes – with Whiz Buckley
    Salience – with Ian Snape, PhD
    Connecting the Dots – with Skip Steward
    The F-14 Tomcast – with Crunch and Bio
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    • 51 min
    Reorient Your Planning Process with Annette Nolan and Johan Ivari

    Reorient Your Planning Process with Annette Nolan and Johan Ivari

    Defy the conventional wisdom that the best-laid business plans emerge from the highest towers of consultancy firms.

    Join us in this episode of the No Way Out Podcast as military strategists Johan Avari and Annette Nolan challenge conventional business planning methodologies. Guided by teachings from John Boyd's influential OODA loop, they present an adaptive approach that emphasizes process over product and underlines the values of empathy and humility in strategic decision-making. Explore with us the indispensable role of a generative culture in creating sustaining, flexible strategies that go beyond rigid plans. This episode also delves into the intricate connection between language and organizational culture, along with the management of emerging properties. This is a compelling discussion that offers a new lens through which to view planning in today's disruptive times.

    Annette Nolan on LinkedIn
    Johnan Ivari on LinkedIn
    Team up for Success
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    https://flowguides.org/
    https://www.getflowtrained.com/

    Recent podcasts where you’ll also find Mark and Ponch:
    Eddy Network Podcast Ep 56 – with Ed Brenegar
    The School of War Ep 84 – with Aaron MacLean
    Spatial Web AI Podcast – with Denise Holt
    OODAcast Ep 113 – with Bob Gourley
    No Fallen Heroes – with Whiz Buckley
    Salience – with Ian Snape, PhD
    Connecting the Dots – with Skip Steward
    The F-14 Tomcast – with Crunch and Bio
    Economic...

    • 1 hr 28 min
    Liminality, Innovation and Conflict with David Kilcullen, PhD

    Liminality, Innovation and Conflict with David Kilcullen, PhD

    Dr. David Kilcullen, a mastermind in the spheres of strategy and counterinsurgency, joins us to dissect the evolution of global military tactics. His expertise, drawn from his book "Dragons and Snakes: How the Rest Learned to Fight the West," provides us with a rare glimpse into the ingenious ways adversaries have risen to contest Western military hegemony. This episode promises to peel back the layers of military leadership, bureaucracy, and the urgent necessity for adaptability, offering strategic insights that transcend the battlefield and permeate the realms of business and innovation.

    Within the corridors of power and on the front lines, leaders grapple with the complexities of modern warfare, where technological prowess often spells the difference between victory and defeat. Our exchange with Dr. Kilcullen takes a hard look at the multifaceted role of the Department of Defense and the economic undercurrents of defense spending. We'll investigate how the resilience of parasitic markets and the agility of innovation can provide a blueprint for not only military success but also corporate triumph, setting the stage for a discussion that merges the art of war with the science of business strategy.

    Venture into the shadows with us as we uncover the covert operations that define the modern era of conflict, where countries like Russia and China manipulate the threshold of war and commerce. Dr. Kilcullen will guide us through liminal warfare and the stretching of traditional battlefields into commercial territory, revealing a world where the lines between corporate competition and strategic dominance are increasingly blurred. Through this lens, we'll understand the imperative of reimagining business models, product placement, and the unyielding pursuit of innovation, drawing from military strategic frameworks that prove just as effective in the boardroom as they do on the war-front.
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    The Dragons and Snakes: How the Rest Learned to Fight the West
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    https://www.linkedin.com/in/markjmcgrath1
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevemccrone
    https://flowguides.org/
    https://www.getflowtrained.com/

    Recent podcasts where you’ll also find Mark and Ponch:
    Eddy Network Podcast Ep 56 – with Ed Brenegar
    The School of War Ep 84 – with Aaron MacLean
    Spatial Web AI Podcast – with Denise Holt
    OODAcast Ep 113 – with Bob Gourley
    No Fallen Heroes – with Whiz Buckley
    Salience – with Ian Snape, PhD
    Connecting the Dots – with Skip Steward
    The F-14 Tomcast – with Crunch and Bio
    Economic...

    • 59 min
    Liberating Structures for Safety, Innovation, and Resilience with Keith McCandless

    Liberating Structures for Safety, Innovation, and Resilience with Keith McCandless

    Unlock safety, innovation, and resilience in your organization with Liberating Structures!
    How does cognitive diversity drive success?
    Have you experimented with Think-Write-Share?
    Discover the secrets of Red Teaming with Keith McCandless in this insightful podcast episode. Foster collaboration, break down hierarchies, and boost performance with Liberating Structures. Don't miss out on this opportunity to revolutionize your organization's approach to problem-solving and decision-making!

    Dive into the depths of complexity science with us, where Keith's expertise guides us through the 'One, Two, Four, All' structure—a technique that magnifies individual thoughts and subsequently molds them into actionable collective insights. As the digital world incessantly demands our attention, we explore indispensable techniques that help maintain deep focus and diminish cognitive drain, acknowledging the unique ways in which introverts and extroverts contribute to the collective intelligence. Hear the poignant story of Seattle’s grief walking—a testament to the healing power of psychological safety and shared experiences.

    Liberating Structures
    Keith McCandless on LinkedIn
    The Surprising Power of Liberating Structures: Simple Rules to Unleash A Culture of Innovation
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    https://www.linkedin.com/in/markjmcgrath1
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevemccrone
    https://flowguides.org/
    https://www.getflowtrained.com/

    Recent podcasts where you’ll also find Mark and Ponch:
    Eddy Network Podcast Ep 56 – with Ed Brenegar
    The School of War Ep 84 – with Aaron MacLean
    Spatial Web AI Podcast – with Denise Holt
    OODAcast Ep 113 – with Bob Gourley
    No Fallen Heroes – with Whiz Buckley
    Salience – with Ian Snape, PhD
    Connecting the Dots – with Skip Steward
    The F-14 Tomcast – with Crunch and Bio
    Economic...

    • 1 hr 11 min
    Peak Performance with Jeff Sutherland, PhD

    Peak Performance with Jeff Sutherland, PhD

    Jeff Sutherland, PhD,  co-creator of Scrum and former RF-4C fighter pilot, discusses the state of the Agile community and the challenges faced in Agile transformations. He explores the connection between John Boyd's Energy-0Maneuverability Theory and Agile, as well as the application of neuroscience principles to Agile practices.

     Dr. Sutherland emphasizes the importance of individual and team performance in achieving peak performance. He also highlights the need for leadership and change in organizations to embrace Agile. Finally, he addresses the urgency of Agile in today's rapidly evolving world and the potential for Agile to drive significant improvements in productivity and competitiveness. The conversation explores various themes related to Agile, Scrum, and the intersection of technology and human performance. It delves into the importance of going back to first principles, the lessons learned from the military, the concept of human-machine teaming, the collaboration between Scrum and AI, the significance of Scrum in planning and execution, the focus on reducing energy and improving performance, the connection between Buddhism and optimization, and the expression of gratitude and acknowledgment. Overall, the conversation highlights the pivotal time in history and the responsibility of the Agile community to shape the positive impact of technology.

    Jeff Sutherland, PhD on LinkedIn
    Jeff Sutherland, PhD on X
    Scrum: The Art of Doing Twice the Work in Half the Time
    Scrum, Inc.
    The Scrum Guide 
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    https://www.linkedin.com/in/markjmcgrath1
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevemccrone
    https://flowguides.org/
    https://www.getflowtrained.com/

    Recent podcasts where you’ll also find Mark and Ponch:
    Eddy Network Podcast Ep 56 – with Ed Brenegar
    The School of War Ep 84 – with Aaron MacLean
    Spatial Web AI Podcast – with Denise Holt
    OODAcast Ep 113 – with Bob Gourley
    No Fallen Heroes – with Whiz Buckley
    Salience – with Ian Snape, PhD
    Connecting the Dots – with Skip Steward
    The F-14 Tomcast – with Crunch and Bio
    Economic...

    • 1 hr 3 min
    Flaws and f-Laws of "TOPGUN" Thinking with Whiz, Ponch, and Gareth

    Flaws and f-Laws of "TOPGUN" Thinking with Whiz, Ponch, and Gareth

    What do Top Guns get wrong about leading in complexity.? What do they get right?
    The conversation explores some common flaws of “TOPGUN” thinking—those bounded lessons borrowed from the cockpit and applied as gospel by business leaders—and the uncomfortable truths TOPGUNs know about business, leadership, life and teamwork. 
    Three former “TOPGUNs” turned business consultants and authors challenge established practices often preached by former military consultants to include closing the execution gap, the limitations of the Swiss cheese model in complex environments, and the overuse of checklists.
    Throughout our discussion, we peel back the layers of organizational safety and psychological dynamics that govern team success. We address the often overlooked value of cognitive diversity and the role of leadership in fostering environments where honest feedback fuels progress. Discover how the principles of cockpit resource management can revolutionize the way you approach team interactions and planning processes. And prepare to be intrigued as we delve into the surprising connection between effective debriefing and the potential of psychedelics in personal growth and team building.

    Finally, we reflect on poignant lessons from corporate giants and the evolving battle between alternative healing modalities and big pharma. With an eye on the market dynamics of the future, we anticipate the significant shifts this conflict may bring. Our conversation stands as a testament to continuous growth and the relentless pursuit of organizational excellence. So buckle up and join us for a journey that promises to challenge your preconceptions and inspire innovation at every turn.

    No Fallen Heroes Foundation
    E. Matthew "Whiz" Buckley on LinkedIn
    TOPGUN Options
    Gareth Lock on LinkedIn
    Covid Crash: From Panic to Profit: How a Navy Fighter Pilot Used Combat Strategies to Beat Wall Street
    Under Pressure
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    https://www.linkedin.com/in/briandrivera
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/markjmcgrath1
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevemccrone
    https://flowguides.org/
    https://www.getflowtrained.com/

    Recent podcasts where you’ll also find Mark and Ponch:
    Eddy Network Podcast Ep 56 – with Ed Brenegar
    The School of War Ep 84 – with Aaron MacLean
    Spatial Web AI Podcast – with Denise Holt
    OODAcast Ep 113 – with Bob Gourley
    No Fallen Heroes – with Whiz Buckley
    Salience – with Ian Snape, PhD
    Connecting the Dots – with Skip Steward
    The F-14 Tomcast – with Crunch and Bio
    Economic...

    • 1 hr 16 min

Customer Reviews

4.8 out of 5
28 Ratings

28 Ratings

Brent Peterson ,

Thought provoking

Great podcast - some very thought provoking concepts and principles. Adding in to regular rotation to continue challenging my current understanding.

Do you mobi? ,

Applying knowledge of ooda loop to help your business.

In this episode of AGLX Consulting LLC's podcast, hosts Mark McGrath and Brian "Ponch" Rivera have a conversation with Hunter Hastings, an economist, entrepreneur, professional marketer, a venture capitalist, and the host of the Economics for Business podcast. They discuss Hunter's work, economics, complexity science, entrepreneurship, and their connections to the theories of John Boyd. Key takeaways include the emergence of the Lean Startup and Customer Development Model, the Rap Video "Keynes vs. Hayek," a battle of Orientations, and the concept of strategy as a "Mental Tapestry." The episode also mentions several people, ideas, and things including Hunter's website, the E4B podcast, the Adaptive Entrepreneurial Method, Wardley Mapping, and several books.

calicarriveralexsam ,

hi

love this daddy i’m so proud of u but work on ur voice it sounds wierd

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