Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl

Thomas Huebl
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Point of Relation podcast illuminates the path to collective healing at the intersection of science and mysticism. Host Thomas Huebl welcomes visionaries, innovators, artists, and healers for deep conversations about how we can activate our shared intelligence to meet the most pressing challenges of our time.

  1. 1d ago

    Dr. Britt Wray | Transformational Resilience in the Climate Crisis

    This week, Thomas sits down with award-winning researcher, author, and science communicator Britt Wray to discuss the need for collective care, systemic action, and spiritual introspection in addressing the climate crisis and its psychological effects. Britt offers an approach to climate anxiety, called “Transformational Resilience,” that focuses on channeling emotional distress into meaningful action and care, rather than resorting to denial or returning to an unhelpful baseline. She and Thomas also explore how climate action is like a relay race, where action is sustained over time by passing the baton, and how acting in alignment with environmental values reduces cognitive dissonance and fosters emotional well-being. ✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube: 👉 https://youtu.be/qP5Iq4gBcPE Video episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET For more episodes of the Point of Relation podcast, visit: https://pointofrelationpodcast.com/ Join Thomas and leading psychologists, clinical practitioners, artists, teachers, and cultural leaders for ✨ Healers on Healing ✨, a free online event from September 17-19. Dr. Sharon Salzberg, Michael Meade, Dr. Mariel Buqué, and more will engage in ten in-depth conversations exploring how healing happens, what we experience, and how it shapes the future. Learn more and sign up for free here 👉 https://conversationsonhealing.com ✨ Dr. Britt Wray is an award-winning researcher, author, and science communicator focused on the mental health impacts of climate change. She directs CIRCLE at Stanford Psychiatry and also founded Unthinkable, a nonprofit addressing the climate-mental health crisis. Britt is the author of Generation Dread, a bestselling book on climate anxiety, and a leading voice in the emerging field of climate psychology. She’s received multiple honors, including the 2025 American Climate Leadership Award (Runner-Up) and the 2023 Canadian Eco-Hero Award. As a TED and World Economic Forum speaker, Britt brings global attention to the emotional toll of the ecological crisis. Connect with Britt here 👉 https://www.brittwray.com Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Point of Relation Podcast: https://pointofrelationpodcast.com Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl ✨ Order Thomas and Internal Family Systems founder Dr. Richard Schwartz's co-authored book, Releasing Our Burdens, here: 👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.com

    Dr. Britt Wray | Transformational Resilience in the Climate Crisis

  2. Aug 18

    Harnessing Your Energetic Potential

    This week, Thomas shares a teaching on what fuels your life energy and how this connects to your spiritual health and sense of purpose. Thomas focuses in on the idea of interdependence, or interconnectedness, and how your vitality is dependent on relational dynamics, co-regulation, and collective wellness. He explores healing modalities and spiritual practices that can recharge your energetic battery, with wisdom on how to shift from repetitive, stagnant patterns to emergent, authentic movements. ✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube: 👉 https://youtu.be/GruhKm9RwGU Video episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET For more episodes of the Point of Relation podcast, visit: https://pointofrelationpodcast.com/ Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Point of Relation Podcast: https://pointofrelationpodcast.com Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl ✨ Order Thomas and Internal Family Systems founder Dr. Richard Schwartz's co-authored book, Releasing Our Burdens, here: 👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.com Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future: 👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9

    Harnessing Your Energetic Potential

  3. Aug 11

    Initiation, Awakening, and Transcendence

    This week, Thomas shares a teaching on becoming grounded to integrate ancestral wisdom and initiate yourself into the digital age in a spiritually centered and holistic way. He explores the perspective shifts that occur in both healing and spiritual awakening, and how we can harness this transformative power to heal collectively and evolve technologically without abandoning spiritual connection. Thomas also discusses the importance of embracing uncertainty to expand your consciousness, what it means to truly process the past, and how to open yourself to your unique, higher calling. ✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube: 👉 https://youtu.be/3s4ULNqNfzs Video episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET For more episodes of the Point of Relation podcast, visit: https://pointofrelationpodcast.com/ Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Point of Relation Podcast: https://pointofrelationpodcast.com Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl ✨ Order Thomas and Internal Family Systems founder Dr. Richard Schwartz's co-authored book, Releasing Our Burdens, here: 👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.com Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future: 👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9

    Initiation, Awakening, and Transcendence

  4. Aug 4

    Ashanti Kunene | Spiritually Embodied Leadership

    This week, Thomas sits down with Ashanti Kunene, an activist, slam poet, writer, and the founder of Learning 2 Unlearn, for a conversation about spiritual alignment and integrity in leadership and the connection between individual healing and systems change. In a time when we’re all faced with the repercussions of intergenerational trauma, oppressive systems, and unethical leadership, those of us who feel called to facilitate change must first confront our personal narratives, ethics, and shadow-self so that our actions align with our inner spiritual and moral compass. Ashanti and Thomas explore what that really looks like, what people in positions of power are truly responsible and accountable for, and what we can learn from the good AND the bad deeds of those who came before us. ✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube: 👉 https://youtu.be/vGKfLeyFKis Video episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET For more episodes of the Point of Relation podcast, visit: https://pointofrelationpodcast.com/ ✨ Ashanti Kunene is an art activist, slam poet, published writer, two-time TEDx speaker, and the founder of Learning 2 Unlearn – a decolonial strategic narratives consultancy cultivating leadership coherence in the context of the polycrisis. She also serves as the Co-Lead of the Transforming Wealth Lab for the Joseph Rowntree Foundation. Connect with Ashanti here 👉 https://www.learning2unlearn.com Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Point of Relation Podcast: https://pointofrelationpodcast.com Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl ✨ Order Thomas and Internal Family Systems founder Dr. Richard Schwartz's co-authored book, Releasing Our Burdens, here: 👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.com Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future: 👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9

    Ashanti Kunene | Spiritually Embodied Leadership

  5. Jul 28

    Michael Meade | The Courageous Path of the Heart

    This week, Thomas sits down with mythologist Michael Meade for a conversation about initiations, awakenings, and how to access your innate gifts to be a transformative force in a world in crisis. Michael shares about his formative experience as a conscientious objector during the Vietnam War, and how the confinement, isolation, and trauma that he endured informed his spiritual development and life philosophy. He and Thomas look at the current uncertain state of the world where old structures are collapsing as a liminal space where the new world has not yet been born. Michael argues that healing and evolving into a better world requires us to be present with conflict, sustain soulful connections, maintain creative and contemplative practices, and find the courage from our heart to lean into our authentic, imperfect selves. ✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube: 👉 https://youtu.be/WxJM-YICdkQ Video episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET For more episodes of the Point of Relation podcast, visit: https://pointofrelationpodcast.com/ ✨ Michael Meade, D.H.L., is a renowned storyteller, author, and scholar of mythology, anthropology, and psychology. He combines hypnotic storytelling, street-savvy perceptiveness, and spellbinding interpretations of ancient myths with a deep knowledge of cross-cultural rituals. He is the creator of the Living Myth Podcast, and the founder of Mosaic Multicultural Foundation, a nonprofit that encourages greater understanding between diverse peoples. Connect with Michael here 👉 https://www.mosaicvoices.org Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Point of Relation Podcast: https://pointofrelationpodcast.com Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl ✨ Order Thomas and Internal Family Systems founder Dr. Richard Schwartz's co-authored book, Releasing Our Burdens, here: 👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.com Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future: 👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9

    Michael Meade | The Courageous Path of the Heart

  6. Jul 21

    Kaira Jewel Lingo | Reconnecting to Nature, Spirit, and Presence

    This week, Thomas sits down with Dharma teacher and author Kaira Jewel Lingo to explore how we can heal our deeply fractured relationship with the Earth and break out of the modern digital trance. Kaira shares her unique experience of transitioning out of monastic life as a nun and back into a fast-paced digital world. This experience gave her a unique perspective on how technology consumes our attention, and what’s needed to reconnect to our relationships, ourselves, our spirituality, and the earth. She and Thomas discuss how face-to-face connection can help us reclaim our presence, why our global crises stem from our disconnection with nature, and what’s needed for a collective re-awakening into an interconnected and embodied life that’s defined by care and curiosity instead of an isolated existence fueled by exploitation and inattention. ✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube: 👉 https://youtu.be/xFKHhTFCAv8 Video episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET For more episodes of the Point of Relation podcast, visit: https://pointofrelationpodcast.com/ ✨ Kaira Jewel Lingo is a senior dharma teacher in the Zen lineage and also a Vipassana teacher. She is a member of the Plum Village North American Dharma Teachers Council of Elders. Based in New York, she is the author of We Were Made for These Times, co-author of Healing Our Way Home, and provides spiritual mentoring, focusing on racial and earth justice and engaged spirituality. Connect with Kaira here 👉 https://www.kairajewel.com If you'd like to learn more about the Strother School of Radical Attention that Kaira references in the episode, visit their website: https://www.schoolofattention.org Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Point of Relation Podcast: https://pointofrelationpodcast.com Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl ✨ Order Thomas and Internal Family Systems founder Dr. Richard Schwartz's co-authored book, Releasing Our Burdens, here: 👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.com Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future: 👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9

    Kaira Jewel Lingo | Reconnecting to Nature, Spirit, and Presence

  7. Jul 14

    Creating Inner Space for Change

    This week, Thomas shares a teaching on creating conscious inner spaciousness to process life’s challenges and use them as engines for personal and spiritual growth. By opening up space for a larger “cup” to hold our wounds and traumas, we can address and understand them without being defined by them. Having this space also allows us to shift from a state of habitual, past-focused attention to one of conscious presence. Thomas shares how integrating the past in this way brings in new light and new possibilities, enables us to mature and grow (both personally and collectively), and disrupts patterns of intergenerational trauma. ✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube: 👉 https://youtu.be/LKR21mZDF9c Video episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET For more episodes of the Point of Relation podcast, visit: https://pointofrelationpodcast.com/ Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Point of Relation Podcast: https://pointofrelationpodcast.com Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl ✨ Order Thomas and Internal Family Systems founder Dr. Richard Schwartz's co-authored book, Releasing Our Burdens, here: 👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.com Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future: 👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9

    Creating Inner Space for Change

  8. Jul 7

    Zubaida Bai | Engineering an End to Poverty and Patriarchy

    This week, Thomas sits down with the CEO of the Grameen Foundation, Zubaida Bai, for an inspiring conversation about amplifying oppressed voices, economically empowering women, and creating cultural and systemic changes to end poverty. Zubaida has spent decades working within impoverished communities across the globe to create adaptive, localized strategies to change outdated attitudes, make childbirth safer, and get women much-needed access to capital to ensure their long-term financial viability. Her holistic approach to poverty alleviation combines empathetic, culturally sensitive relationship building with a deep understanding of climate change, technology, and financial access. She and Thomas discuss how to create sustainable interventions and innovations for those in impoverished areas, and why it’s so important to uplift the voices and struggles of women and mothers in the fight against poverty. ✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube: 👉 https://youtu.be/uw6DMjk5dHk Video episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET For more episodes of the Point of Relation podcast, visit: https://pointofrelationpodcast.com/ ✨Zubaida Bai is President and CEO of Grameen Foundation, with over 20 years in the social impact sector. A social entrepreneur and advocate for women’s health and financial well-being, she founded ayzh, a social enterprise providing essential healthcare products for women and girls. She previously led social ventures at CARE International and now focuses on advancing financial health globally. Bai has been recognized as a World Economic Forum Young Global Leader, Ashoka Maternal Health Champion, TED Fellow, and United Nations SDG 3 Pioneer. She holds a master’s in Mechanical Engineering, an MBA from Colorado State University, and an honorary doctorate from Claremont Graduate University. Connect with Zubaida and the Grameen Foundation here 👉 https://Grameenfoundation.org Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Point of Relation Podcast: https://pointofrelationpodcast.com Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl ✨ Order Thomas and Internal Family Systems founder Dr. Richard Schwartz's co-authored book, Releasing Our Burdens, here: 👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.com Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future: 👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9

    Zubaida Bai | Engineering an End to Poverty and Patriarchy
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Point of Relation podcast illuminates the path to collective healing at the intersection of science and mysticism. Host Thomas Huebl welcomes visionaries, innovators, artists, and healers for deep conversations about how we can activate our shared intelligence to meet the most pressing challenges of our time.

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