Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl

Thomas Huebl

Point of Relation podcast illuminates the path to collective healing at the intersection of science and mysticism. Host Thomas Huebl welcomes visionaries, innovators, artists, and healers for deep conversations about how we can activate our shared intelligence to meet the most pressing challenges of our time.

  1. Becoming Mature Global Citizens with Matthew Green

    4D AGO

    Becoming Mature Global Citizens with Matthew Green

    This week, Thomas is joined once again by journalist and co-host of the “What is Collective Healing?” podcast, Matthew Green, for a conversation exploring the idea of “global acupuncture.” So what is global acupuncture? It’s an approach to collective global healing that leverages our power as connected, social beings to skillfully address the roots of collective trauma at the most critical pressure points in our cultures and societies. Thomas and Matthew discuss how humanity can transition from "adolescence" into mature citizenship by taking ownership of our shared history and integrating the "frozen" past stored within our collective nervous system. They share their hopes that, using these tools, we can turn a world of crisis into a place of global flourishing. ✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube: 👉 https://youtu.be/_Dq3sMVNPk4 Video episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET ✨ Order Thomas and Dr. Richard Schwartz's co-authored book, Releasing Our Burdens, here: 👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.com ✨ Matthew Green is a journalist and co-host of the “What Is Collective Healing?” podcast. He worked as a correspondent for the Financial Times and Reuters, and is the author of Aftershock, a book documenting the trauma healing journeys of British veterans. He serves as global investigations editor at DeSmog and is a graduate of Thomas Hubl’s Timeless Wisdom Training. He’s the creator of the Resonant World newsletter and the co-founder of the Resonant Man initiative. Connect with Matthew here: 👉 https://matthewgreenglobal.substack.com Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future: 👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9

    1 hr
  2. The Art of Transparent Communication [From the Archive]

    JAN 6

    The Art of Transparent Communication [From the Archive]

    This week, we revisit an early episode where Thomas explores the concept of Transparent Communication, a practice that creates an open and grounded relational space where constructive and creative communication can occur. He explains that this form of communication combines the interconnected data streams of cognitive, emotional, and physical information that are always present in any conversation. When we become attuned to these transmissions from others' nervous systems, and are consciously creating coherent transmissions from our own, we can establish a deep connection that's rich in intimacy and free from reactivity. ✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube: 👉 https://youtu.be/HojYkPpwBkk Video episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET If you enjoy this episode and want to dive deeper into this topic... ✨ On January 31, join Thomas’ authorized instructors Eva Giedt and Rae Riedel for a special 2-day online workshop on Transparent Communication. You’ll learn practices to support fresh, emergent conversations where new ways of being together and perception arise, and guidance on how to apply these principles in your everyday life. Whether you’re new to Thomas’ work or are undergoing advanced studies with him, we hope you’ll join us. Learn more and join the workshop here: 👉 https://www.transparent-communication.com/workshop ✨ Order Thomas and Internal Family Systems founder Dr. Schwartz's new co-authored book, Releasing Our Burdens, here: 👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.com ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future: 👉 a href="https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9" rel="noopener noreferrer"...

    34 min
  3. Accessing Deeper States of Meditation with Susanne Ahlendorf & Martin Bruders

    12/30/2025

    Accessing Deeper States of Meditation with Susanne Ahlendorf & Martin Bruders

    This week, Thomas is joined once again by his dear friends, longtime students, and meditation instructors Susanne Ahlendorf and Martin Bruders, for a conversation that unpacks both elemental and complex elements of the practice of meditation. They break down the most essential spiritual components of meditation and how we can apply them to our own practice, at any experience level. Thomas shares insight on how to cultivate the “beginner’s mind” and harness our attention by releasing unhelpful expectations of what a “good” practice should be. They also discuss the crucial role of the body in meditation, and how we can learn to embrace life’s deepest and most difficult questions as our path to revelation. ✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube: 👉 https://youtu.be/qNKx_V-IhfE Video episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET ✨ Order Thomas and Internal Family Systems founder Dr. Schwartz's new co-authored book, Releasing Our Burdens, here: 👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.com ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com ✨ Susanne Ahlendorf is a non-medical practitioner for psychotherapy, a group leader for meditation and Inner Science practice, who accompanies people on their personal and spiritual development path. For her, meditation is a way of unfolding love in life. Connect with Susanne here: https://www.susanneahlendorf.de ✨ Martin Bruders is a qualified social worker, mediator, and coach. He worked for over 28 years as a comedian and presenter at over 2000 corporate events in Germany, Austria, and Switzerland. His inner exploration journey is as much about his meditation practice as it is about his daily life. He loves to permeate life deeper and deeper, always in search of intimacy with the divine; sometimes succeeding, sometimes failing. Connect with Martin here: 👉 https://www.martinbruders.de Explore more teachings and meditations from Martin and Susanne via their co-founded organization, Make Space for Grace, here: https://www.makespaceforgrace.de And subscribe to their YouTube channel here: https://www.youtube.com/@makespaceforgrace-de Sign up for the free monthly Living Meditation Stream with Martin and Susanne, an online opportunity to learn meditation skills and connect with our community: https://thomashuebl.com/meditation Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and

    53 min
  4. Ross Gay | The Poetry of Joy and Connection

    12/23/2025

    Ross Gay | The Poetry of Joy and Connection

    This week, Thomas sits down with acclaimed poet and author Ross Gay for a conversation on the intrinsic link between joy and sorrow, and the importance of finding delight in a world where doing so feels increasingly difficult. Ross’ work is focused on finding joy through human connection, from kinship and ancestry to the profound and powerful connection we feel when we help each other carry our sorrows. In this way, sorrow serves as an unexpected source of delight, a fundamental element of life that illuminates the precarity of joy, and thus its potency. Ross was also kind enough to share readings of some of his delightful poetry. ✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube: 👉 https://youtu.be/qI0gXJRzqw8 Video episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET ✨ Order Thomas and Internal Family Systems founder Dr. Schwartz's new co-authored book, Releasing Our Burdens, here: 👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.com ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com ✨ Ross Gay is the author of four books of poetry: Against Which; Bringing the Shovel Down; Be Holding, winner of the PEN American Literary Jean Stein Award; and Catalog of Unabashed Gratitude, winner of the 2015 National Book Critics Circle Award and the 2016 Kingsley Tufts Poetry Award. He has released three collections of essays—The Book of Delights was released in 2019 and was a New York Times bestseller; Inciting Joy was released in 2022, and his newest collection, The Book of (More) Delights was released in September of 2023. Connect with Ross here: 👉 https://www.rossgay.net Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future: 👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9

    48 min
  5. Kyle Dietrich | The Sacredness of Service

    12/16/2025

    Kyle Dietrich | The Sacredness of Service

    This week, Thomas sits down with Kyle Dietrich, a trauma-informed leadership coach and the founder of Grounded Idealist, for a hopeful conversation about how personal and global crises can spark radical transformation, and how we can build a supportive healing architecture for service workers, healers, parents, and anyone committed to bettering our world. They explore the crucial link between inner work and social change, the need for trauma-informed support for people who’ve dedicated their lives to helping others, and what resources are essential for all of us to achieve conscious relational systems and sustainable healing. ✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube: 👉 https://youtu.be/LMw7Iw8lTRQ Video episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET ✨ Order Thomas and Internal Family Systems founder Dr. Schwartz's new co-authored book, Releasing Our Burdens, here: 👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.com ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com  ✨ Kyle Dietrich is a social entrepreneur, international development leader, and trauma-informed leadership coach with 25+ years implementing peacebuilding, humanitarian assistance, and learning & development programs. He recently led a team in USAID's Bureau for Humanitarian Assistance and has worked with the Peace Corps, Equal Access, Mercy Corps, and UN Peacekeeping. He’s the founder and executive director of Grounded Idealist, a grassroots organization on a mission to catalyze the future of service and social change work. Connect with Kyle here: 👉 https://www.groundedidealist.co Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.  In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future: 👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9

    54 min
  6. Dr. Richard Schwartz | Expanding the Map of Healing

    12/09/2025

    Dr. Richard Schwartz | Expanding the Map of Healing

    This week, Thomas is joined once again by the founder of Internal Family Systems, Dr. Richard Schwartz, for a deep exploration of how we can integrate collective trauma work into our daily lives, relationships, and communities. Combining wisdom from psychology and spiritual traditions, they discuss fresh insights on creating a holistic healing framework for modern times that expands our traditional understanding of therapy and healing by addressing deeply ingrained ancestral and collective wounds. They also explore the power of accessing the core Self to help us release individual and inherited burdens, and how this process of unburdening can accelerate our collective evolution and influence the greater health of humanity. ✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube: 👉 https://youtu.be/HmbGYKL_w9w Video episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET ✨ Order Thomas and Dr. Schwartz's co-authored book, Releasing Our Burdens, here: 👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.com ✨ Sign up for updates by visiting our website: 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com  ✨ Richard C. Schwartz, PhD, is the creator of Internal Family Systems, a highly effective, evidence-based therapeutic model that de-pathologizes the multipart personality. He is the founder of the IFS Institute and is on the faculty of Harvard Medical School. He is the author of several books, including No Bad Parts and You Are the One You’ve Been Waiting For. Connect with Dr. Schwartz here: 👉 https://ifs-institute.com Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.  In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future: 👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9

    33 min
  7. Listener Q&A With Thomas & Matthew Green

    12/02/2025

    Listener Q&A With Thomas & Matthew Green

    This week, Thomas sits down with journalist and co-host of the “What is Collective Healing?” podcast, Matthew Green, for a special episode to answer questions from our community of listeners. They discuss how we can recognize when we’re carrying unresolved trauma from the past, how we can support our children’s healing while honoring ancestral trauma, and what questions we need to ask ourselves as we embark on our own healing journeys. They also explore why we should approach our trauma responses with compassion instead of judgment, how to become aware of patterns in our behavior and develop new ones, and the importance of collective healing within supportive ecosystems as we work to overcome isolation and repair our most important relationships. ✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube: 👉 https://youtu.be/KVn4fbk3qMU Video episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET ✨ Order Thomas and Dr. Richard Schwartz's co-authored book, Releasing Our Burdens, here: 👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.com ✨ Matthew Green is a journalist and co-host of the “What Is Collective Healing?” podcast. He worked as a correspondent for the Financial Times and Reuters, and is the author of Aftershock, a book documenting the trauma healing journeys of British veterans. He serves as global investigations editor at DeSmog and is a graduate of Thomas Hubl’s Timeless Wisdom Training. He’s the creator of the Resonant World newsletter and the co-founder of the Resonant Man initiative. Connect with Matthew here: 👉 https://matthewgreenglobal.substack.com Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future: 👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9

    55 min
  8. Dr. MaryCatherine McDonald | Transforming Fear Into Curiosity

    11/25/2025

    Dr. MaryCatherine McDonald | Transforming Fear Into Curiosity

    How can joy and curiosity help us navigate the most difficult times in our lives? This week, Thomas is joined once again by Dr. MaryCatherine McDonald, a trauma researcher, life coach, and author, to explore how curiosity and imagination are some of our most important and most trainable tools when we’re facing relational conflicts, traumatic experiences, grief and loss, and anxiety inducing news cycles. It might seem counterintuitive, but these resources give us much needed perspective, help us foster deeper, more genuine connections, and bring awareness to inner patterns that aren’t serving us. Thomas and Dr. McDonald also discuss the deeply relational nature of trauma, the need for collective awareness and witnessing to bring about healing, breaking cycles, and the complex nature of evil. ✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube: 👉 https://youtu.be/NmqBYSLEPVE Video episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET ✨ Join Thomas, Internal Family Systems founder Dr. Richard Schwartz, and Sounds True founder Tami Simon on December 2 for a free LIVE event to celebrate their book's publication - From Burden to Belonging: Healing Trauma Across Generations. We'll explore how we can release our burdens, become more resilient, and help create a more flourishing world. Sign up for free here: 👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.com/event It's not too late to join Thomas' fall course: ✨ The Path of the Courageous Soul ✨ It's a 5-month journey to transform trauma into wisdom, fulfill your purpose, and navigate uncertain times for personal and collective evolution. You’ll cultivate the inner resilience and clarity needed to stand steady in times of upheaval and learn practical tools to regulate your nervous system and connect to your inner sources of grace and guidance. And as a member of the Point of Relation community, you'll receive a special $200 discount when you enroll. Learn more and join the course here: 👉 https://pathofthecourageoussoul.com/podcast ✨ Pre-order Thomas and Dr. Schwartz's co-authored book, Releasing Our Burdens, here: 👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.com ✨ MaryCatherine McDonald, PhD, is a research professor and life coach who specializes in the psychology of trauma, stress, and resilience. She has been researching, lecturing, and publishing on the neuroscience, psychology, and lived experience of trauma and stress for over a decade. She is passionate about destigmatizing trauma, stress, and mental health issues and reframing our understanding of trauma. Connect with Dr. McDonald here: 👉 https://alchemycoaching.life Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma.  In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and...

    52 min
4.9
out of 5
111 Ratings

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Point of Relation podcast illuminates the path to collective healing at the intersection of science and mysticism. Host Thomas Huebl welcomes visionaries, innovators, artists, and healers for deep conversations about how we can activate our shared intelligence to meet the most pressing challenges of our time.

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