The Rock Bottom Podcast

Patrick Sullivan Jr. & Ashley Leroux

Welcome to The Rock Bottom Podcast presented by Jigsaw Health—where we share health horror stories that inspire.Each episode, we explore raw, unfiltered journeys of survival—experiences that will inspire, educate, and remind you that no matter how low you feel, there’s always a way up

  1. Invisible Illness & “Normal” Labs: Monica Hershaft | Ep16

    2D AGO

    Invisible Illness & “Normal” Labs: Monica Hershaft | Ep16

    Monica Hershaft is a functional health practitioner specializing in mystery illness, chronic symptoms, and conditions that don’t show up on standard lab tests. She works with people who have been told their symptoms are “normal,” unexplained, or all in their head. Before entering the health space, Monica was an actor, dancer, and lifelong athlete living in Los Angeles — until a popular, professionally supervised detox triggered a severe health collapse that left her unable to function. In this episode of The Rock Bottom Podcast, Monica shares her decade-long journey through chronic illness, normal bloodwork, and repeated medical dismissal. She opens up about living with invisible illness, the emotional impact of medical gaslighting, and how losing trust in your own body can be as damaging as the physical symptoms themselves. This conversation explores why so many people fall through the cracks of the healthcare system — and why healing often begins when someone finally listens and treats the source. Disclaimer: This podcast is for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for medical advice. Always consult a qualified health professional before making changes to your health routine. FEATURED GUEST Monica Hershaft Functional health practitioner specializing in mystery illness & complex chronic symptoms Founder of Treat the Source https://www.treatthesource.com   Instagram: @treatthesource CHAPTERS & TIMESTAMPS 00:45 – The trendy detox that started everything 01:54 – Early symptoms: fatigue, insomnia, palpitations, brain fog 03:17 – “All my labs were normal” 04:31 – Ignoring intuition vs trusting medical authority 09:27 – Timeline check: Thanksgiving 2000 to Valentine’s Day 2001 10:39 – Being told it’s anxiety or depression 18:49 – Growing up in animal-rights activism & food identity 24:08 – Losing friends when illness is invisible 29:51 – Detox overload, gallbladder dysfunction & auto-intoxication 40:14 – When treatment made things worse 42:30 – “I can’t help you if you’re vegan” (the turning point) 01:11:37 – Rock bottom: zero → feeling better than ever Do you have a health horror story that inspires? Apply to be a guest on the podcast: https://forms.gle/aqwJVZXAFFjnyTyS8 Presented by Jigsaw Health Because It's Fun to Feel Good

    1h 17m
  2. From Frozen Shoulder to Cu-riousity: Morley Robbins | EP15

    JAN 21

    From Frozen Shoulder to Cu-riousity: Morley Robbins | EP15

    When former hospital executive Morley Robbins developed a frozen shoulder in his early 50s, the pain brought every part of his life to a halt. What followed—divorce, career loss, and reinvention—became the beginning of a completely new path. In this episode, Morley shares his journey from debilitating pain to discovering a new purpose. He discusses: The emotional storm leading up to his rock-bottom momentThe unexpected chiropractic session that changed everythingHow stress may influence minerals and energyWhy curiosity and resilience shaped the rest of his careerThe origins of the Root Cause Protocol and his lifelong research practiceFEATURED GUEST Morley Robbins (sometimes called “Magnesium Man”) is the creator and founder of The Root Cause Protocol (RCP) and the Magnesium Advocacy Group.  He holds a BA in Biology (from Denison University) and an MBA in healthcare administration (from George Washington University).  After decades working as a hospital executive and consultant, Robbins underwent a dramatic personal health crisis — a frozen shoulder so severe it disrupted his life. That experience prompted him to deep-dive into mineral metabolism (magnesium, copper, iron) and ultimately build the RCP as a mineral-based framework for restoring energy, balance, and long-term health.  Morley’s book, “Cure Your Fatigue” now available wherever books are sold: https://cureyourfatiguebook.com  The Root Cause Protocol: https://therootcauseprotocol.com This book presents the RCP in full: how mineral imbalance (especially copper, magnesium, and iron) can underlie fatigue and chronic disease, and offers practical, research-based guidance to restore balance. Disclaimer: This podcast is for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for medical advice. Always consult a qualified health professional before making changes to your health routine. TIMESTAMPS & CHAPTERS 00:00 — Morley’s frozen shoulder brings his life to a standstill 01:12 — Welcome to The Rock Bottom Podcast 02:12 — Reconnecting after 15 years and the origins of RCP 04:29 — Morley’s early years as a hospital executive 06:29 — Consulting, mentors, and high-pressure environments 08:31 — The body breaks down after years on the road 09:41 — What frozen shoulder feels like and failed early solutions 11:13 — A pivotal visit to an apothecary leads to chiropractic care 12:26 — The adjustment that instantly lifted his arm 13:35 — “The innate healer” and Morley’s shift in understanding 15:10 — Stress, divorce, and the emotional collapse behind the scenes 18:00 — Skydiving to clear the cobwebs and start over 19:22 — Discovering magnesium and early mineral research 27:18 — What stress may do to minerals and energy production 34:41 — Copper, food, and how nutrition has changed 51:52 — Morley’s rock-bottom score and where he is today Do you have a health horror story that inspires? Apply to be a guest on the podcast: https://forms.gle/aqwJVZXAFFjnyTyS8 Presented by Jigsaw Health Because It's Fun to Feel Good

    58 min
  3. Fighting Black Mold: Marina Ortega | EP14

    JAN 7

    Fighting Black Mold: Marina Ortega | EP14

    Marina Ortega is the founder of Scottsdale Hydrotherapy, Arizona’s leading colon hydrotherapy and wellness center, and the co-creator of Trust Your Gut, a national wellness brand offering USDA Organic, gut-focused detox products, protocols, and education. A former college professor, master gardener, and semiprofessionally trained chef, Marina blends science, nature, and nutrition into a holistic approach to healing that’s both practical and transformative. Her personal journey from struggling with chronic mold exposure, dental trauma, and parasitic infections ignited her passion to help others heal from the inside out. Over nearly three decades and more than 30,000 colon hydrotherapy sessions, Marina has become recognized as a true pioneer in the field of gut health and natural detoxification. Her Scottsdale-based center offers a spa-like environment that merges education with experience helping thousands of clients restore balance through colon hydrotherapy, HOCATT ozone sauna, lymphatic drainage, and herbal detox support. Together with her partner and husband, Steve, Marina launched Trust Your Gut to make these same healing tools accessible at home offering  USDA organic castor oil, wraps, USDA teas, enema kits, and drainage protocols that support foundational wellness. The brand’s mission is simple: to help people take control of their health naturally, affordably, and confidently. Known affectionately as the “Poop Fairy,” Marina is redefining how people think and talk about gut health replacing shame with empowerment and science with soul. Through her education, humor, and transparency, she reminds audiences that true healing begins with awareness, self-responsibility, and a willingness to listen to your gut — literally and figuratively. Disclaimer: This podcast is for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for medical advice. Always consult a qualified health professional before making changes to your health routine. FEATURED GUEST Marina Ortega The OG poop fairy 💩🧚 Owner/Founder of @scottsdalehydrotherapy & @trustyourgutshop✨ Colonics, Enemas, Detox, & All Things GUT HEALTH Website: https://scottsdalehydrotherapy.com Instagram: @marinathepoopfairy CHAPTERS & TIMESTAMPS 00:00 – “I’m having trouble breathing…” 00:26 – Welcome to the show & Marina’s introduction 00:45 – Important medical disclaimer 01:20 – Marina’s rock bottom begins in Flagstaff 03:09 – “Worst labs in 25 years”: black mold, fungi, mycoplasma 05:10 – Detox quotes from $30k up to $90k 08:17 – Parasites on top of mold exposure 10:03 – Liver enzymes elevated & using coffee enemas 13:14 – Mold testing confusion and fear 15:04 – Air tests, mold dog, and ruling out the home 16:50 – Likely exposure source: a gym steam room 19:09 – Clean air and water upgrades 24:04 – If you just found out you have mold: where to begin 25:00 – Castor oil packs and how she uses them 27:02 – Coffee enema basics and safety 31:04 – Constipation as a silent epidemic 33:21 – Parasite tea, binders, and gut scrubbers 34:55 – Don’t cleanse if you’re constipated 38:58 – Laxatives, long-term use, and stuck cycles 43:54 – From rock bottom 0 to feeling like an 8 45:49 – Free tools: sun, movement, sweating 46:47 – Where to find Marina & her business 50:03 – TikTok cleanses and sequencing Presented by Jigsaw Health Because It's Fun to Feel Good

    54 min
  4. Finding Your Model of Health: Chemaine Linnie | EP13

    12/17/2025

    Finding Your Model of Health: Chemaine Linnie | EP13

    At just 18 years old, Chemaine Linnie hit rock bottom—280 pounds, a single mom, and told her life was over. But instead of giving up, she turned her pain into purpose. With faith, family, and determination, Chemaine lost 150 pounds and rebuilt her health from the inside out. In this inspiring episode of The Rock Bottom Podcast, Chemaine shares how she transformed her body and mindset after hitting rock bottom, the daily habits that helped her lose 150 pounds naturally, and why true healing starts with mindset, movement, and faith. She also offers practical tips for better sleep, nutrition, and hormone balance. Chemaine’s journey is a reminder that real transformation takes time, courage, and self-belief—and that it’s never too late to start your own health journey. Disclaimer: This podcast is for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for medical advice. Always consult a qualified health professional before making changes to your health routine. Chapter Timestamps:  00:00 — Welcome to The Rock Bottom Podcast  00:33 — Introducing Chemaine Linnie and her story  03:44 — Growing up in Dublin and early struggles  04:12 — The moment she hit rock bottom  05:04 — The dress incident that changed everything  06:09 — Joining Weight Watchers and finding faith  10:12 — Losing 150 pounds and discovering purpose  12:38 — The power of slow, steady progress  14:00 — The role of encouragement and community  15:25 — What her diet looked like then vs. now  18:06 — Food as comfort and early trauma  20:12 — Reflecting on processed food culture  22:05 — Learning what “healthy” really means  25:11 — Mindset, movement, and self-belief  28:56 — Why calories and movement still matter  29:23 — Building mental resilience through discipline  31:45 — Why keeping weight off is so hard  33:44 — Lessons from “The Biggest Loser”  35:05 — Real vs. unrealistic expectations  36:15 — Healing skin and body after massive weight loss  38:19 — Loose skin, body image, and self-acceptance  41:10 — Staying healthy after transformation  43:15 — Travel routines and daily discipline  45:00 — Redefining joy beyond food  47:25 — The role of laughter, family, and gratitude  50:49 — Competing less, living more  52:09 — From -10 to +12: how she measures happiness now  54:08 — “Finding Your Model of Health” — her book title and mission  55:38 — The power of trust between coach and client  56:44 — Sleep, hormones, and healing from within  57:07 — Why blue light before bed can sabotage rest  58:38 — Magnesium, collagen, and nighttime recovery  01:00:02 — Where to find Chemaine online  01:00:43 — Final thoughts: Doing your best every day Featured Guest: Chemaine Linnie Certified Nutrition & Hormone Practitioner Host of Find Your Model Health Podcast YouTube: Chemaine’s Model Health – https://youtube.com Website: https://chemainesmodelhealth.com Instagram: @chemainesmodelhealth – https://instagram.com/chemainesmodelhealth Presented by Jigsaw Health Because It's Fun to Feel Good

    1h 1m
  5. "Three Days to Live": Joey Raats | EP12

    12/03/2025

    "Three Days to Live": Joey Raats | EP12

    Former pro hockey player Joey Raats was told he had just three days to live after a diagnosis of metastatic testicular cancer. In this powerful conversation, he shares how faith, intuition, and sheer determination helped him fight back — from the ice rink to the ICU and beyond. Joey reflects on his hockey beginnings, the shock of a terminal prognosis, the toll of chemotherapy, his turn toward holistic healing, and the spiritual awakening that reshaped his life. Disclaimer: This episode shares one person’s experience. It is not medical advice. Always consult a qualified health professional for guidance on medical care. Follow Joey Raats Instagram: @raatsy44 Twitter/X: @VegasRat Website: bio3ozone.com Rock Bottom Podcast is sponsored by:  Jigsaw Health Follow on TikTok Follow on Instagram Chapters 00:00 – Intro 00:09 – Hockey career and early pain signs 00:10:01 – The first tumor discovery 00:13:09 – The terminal diagnosis 00:14:01 – Choosing chemo and the fear of treatment 00:18:10 – Life inside the Mayo Clinic 00:21:03 – Losing himself completely 00:26:17 – Deciding to stop chemo 00:30:51 – Nutrition, fasting, and faith 00:32:08 – Ozone and vitamin C therapy 00:34:11 – Launching Bio3 Ozone with his wife 00:35:23 – Leaving Mayo Clinic for good 00:37:43 – Finding balance between medicine and faith 00:41:03 – “What Diagnosis?” — his wife’s idea and spiritual growth 00:43:57 – Breathwork and rebuilding his body 00:46:40 – The moment of surrender 00:54:33 – “Every cell chose to survive” 00:56:04 – Recovery through walking and discipline 00:57:37 – What caused his cancer? 00:59:02 – Closing reflections and gratitude Presented by Jigsaw Health Because It's Fun to Feel Good

    1h 5m
  6. Paralysis to Purpose: Razi Berry | EP11

    11/19/2025

    Paralysis to Purpose: Razi Berry | EP11

    Razi Berry, founder of Naturopathic Doctor News and Review and host of Love is Medicine, shares—for the first time—her personal story of losing nearly everything to a mysterious illness that left her bedridden and partially paralyzed for 5 years. Razi opens up about the terror of losing her independence, the painful medical uncertainty, and the long, layered road to recovery. Through vulnerability and humor, she reveals how the experience reshaped her understanding of the mind-body connection—and why true healing often begins with compassion for yourself and others. A story of resilience, faith, and rediscovering joy through unimaginable darkness. Listen for heartfelt insights on the difference between mindset and biology, the complexity of chronic illness, and how love—expressed in action, not slogans—can be medicine. --- Rock Bottom Podcast is sponsored by: Jigsaw Health Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@therockbottom.podcast Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rockbottom.podcast --- Timestamps 00:00:00 – Welcome Razi Berry Introducing Razi and her decades-long leadership in naturopathic medicine. 00:02:19 – The First Signs of Trouble Early neurological symptoms and the search for answers. 00:05:01 – Life Collapsing Inward Paralysis, isolation, and the loss of independence during years of illness. 00:08:15 – Searching for a Cause Testing for mold, infections, toxins, and the desperate hunt for clarity. 00:13:09 – A Frightening Diagnosis The discovery of a neurological protein linked to degenerative diseases. 00:20:15 – Between Science and Spirit Navigating differing medical opinions, self-doubt, and fear. 00:25:16 – The Turning Point: Stem Cell Therapy A controversial but pivotal decision that sparked her gradual recovery. 00:33:47 – Healing in Layers Regaining strength, rediscovering hope, and learning from the body’s wisdom. 00:34:15 – Mind, Body, and Beyond Why mindset alone can’t heal everything—and what true love as medicine means. 00:48:58 – A New Chapter Reconnecting with her daughters, relaunching her work, and finding joy again. 01:03:09 – Closing Reflections Razi on empathy, mortality, and redefining what it means to heal. Presented by Jigsaw Health Because It's Fun to Feel Good

    1h 6m
  7. "Invisible" but Real Illness: Liz Rozet | EP10

    11/05/2025

    "Invisible" but Real Illness: Liz Rozet | EP10

    At 29, Liz Rozet hit a terrifying rock bottom — daily migraines, nerve pain, and complete exhaustion. What she thought were “just headaches” turned out to be a complex network of chronic conditions, including POTS (Postural Orthostatic Tachycardia Syndrome), Type 1 Chiari malformation, hEDS (Hyper-mobile Ehlers-Danlos syndrome), CCI (Cranial Cervical Instability), and MCAS (mast cell activation syndrome). In this episode, Liz shares her journey through years of misdiagnoses, endless doctor visits, and the emotional weight of living with these “invisible illnesses” that are becoming more and more common. Her courage and persistence remind us that healing isn’t always linear — sometimes, it’s about learning to trust your own body again. Follow Liz on Instagram --- Presented by Jigsaw Health   Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@therockbottom.podcast Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rockbottom.podcast --- Chapters:  00:00 – Intro: Welcome to the Rock Bottom Podcast   00:24 – Meet Liz Roset: Misdiagnosed Migraines and Pain   01:14 – Rock Bottom: Daily Pain and Fear to Breathe   03:36 – Early Symptoms in College and Constant Fatigue   05:04 – Searching for Answers: “Heal Your Headache” Diet   07:19 – Realization: It’s More Than Just Migraines   10:00 – MRI Results: Discovering Chiari Malformation   19:48 – The ER, Spinal Fluid Leak Scare & Dismissive Doctors   25:33 – Discovering Dysautonomia & POTS Diagnosis   33:07 – CCI, Hypermobility & Facing Possible Spine Surgery   37:28 – Life in Tennessee, Diet Changes & Raw Milk Discovery   44:13 – MCAS Diagnosis, Food Sensitivities & Hope Restored   49:00 – Lessons in Self-Advocacy & Reclaiming Health New Episodes Every other Wednesday Presented by Jigsaw Health Because It's Fun to Feel Good

    1h 3m

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Welcome to The Rock Bottom Podcast presented by Jigsaw Health—where we share health horror stories that inspire.Each episode, we explore raw, unfiltered journeys of survival—experiences that will inspire, educate, and remind you that no matter how low you feel, there’s always a way up

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