Not Saving It For Later - Guiding Women Through Divorce & Beyond

Hannah Hembree Bell

Hosted by Hannah Hembree Bell — Texas divorce lawyer, mom, and woman who’s been through it — Not Saving It For Later is the podcast that finally says out loud what everyone else is whispering about divorce, co-parenting, money, dating, and identity. This isn’t polite small talk about “new beginnings.” It’s real conversation about what it takes to tear down a life that no longer fits and build one that finally does.

  1. FEB 3

    Love After Divorce: Blending Families, Choosing Again, and Not Saving Life for Later (Featuring Drew Bell)

    Ep. 12 Love After Divorce: Blending Families, Choosing Again, and Not Saving Life for Later (Featuring Drew Bell) In this deeply personal episode, Hannah Hembree Bell sits down with her husband, Drew Bell, for an honest conversation about love after divorce, building a relationship inside a ready-made family, and what it really means to choose each other—again and again—after everything has fallen apart once. This isn’t a fairy-tale “second marriage” story. It’s a real one. Hannah and Drew talk candidly about meeting shortly after Hannah’s divorce, navigating the realities of dating as a mom, stepping into a family that already exists, and the quiet decisions that make a relationship steady instead of dramatic. If you’ve ever wondered: Is it too soon to love again? Can a relationship be calm and still be real? What does it look like when someone chooses your whole life—not just you? This episode is for you. Together, Hannah and Drew unpack what it takes to build something grounded after chaos—and why waiting to live, love, or feel joy “later” is a cost most women don’t realize they’re paying. Episode Timeline 00:00 – Welcome to Not Saving It for Later 01:00 – Introducing Drew & why this conversation matters 04:00 – Meeting shortly after divorce: timing, fear, and honesty 08:30 – Dating as a mom & stepping into an existing family system 13:00 – What blending families actually requires (and what it doesn’t) 18:00 – Calm vs. chaos: redefining what “chemistry” means 22:30 – Choosing steadiness over emotional whiplash 27:00 – Respect, patience, and learning your role inside a family 32:00 – What Drew learned about partnership, parenting, and support 38:00 – Love without urgency, pressure, or performance 44:00 – “Not saving joy, peace, or life for later” About Drew Bell Drew Bell is a trial attorney who spends his professional life handling high-stakes litigation—and his personal life building a steady, intentional partnership and family with Hannah. Mentioned in This Episode The Circle — Weekly live coaching + My Confident Divorce course → myconfidentdivorce.com/circle Hembree Bell Law Firm (Texas) → hembreebell.com Follow Hannah on Instagram & TikTok → @hannahhembreebell Not Saving It for Later is the podcast for women navigating divorce and life beyond it—where we stop whispering about what’s hard and start talking about what’s real. This show is for education and inspiration only — not legal or mental health advice.If you are in danger, contact local emergency services or the National Domestic Violence Hotline at 800-799-SAFE (7233).

    1h 28m
  2. JAN 27

    What No One Tells You Before Filing For Divorce (featuring Christopher Anderson)

    Ep 11. What No One Tells You Before Filing For Divorce (featuring Christopher Anderson) In this grounded conversation, Hannah sits down with one of her closest advisors and longtime family law attorney, Christopher Anderson, a man who has spent decades inside the systems most people only encounter on the worst days of their lives. Christopher has prosecuted domestic violence and sex crimes in the Bronx, represented families in high-conflict divorce, built and run law firms across the country, and lived the long-term consequences of a “bad split” as a child of divorce himself. He’s seen what actually protects children, and what quietly destroys them. Together, Hannah and Christopher talk about why divorce doesn’t have to be chaos, why the system so often rewards conflict, and why leadership — in families, firms, and life — requires more honesty, restraint, and intention than most people are willing to practice. If you’re in the middle of divorce…If you’re exhausted by the process…If you feel like you’re carrying the emotional and strategic weight for everyone else… This episode will help you slow down, zoom out, and remember that clarity is kindness. This is not about winning.It’s about building something that lasts. 00:00 – Not Saving It for Later: Why We’re Done Waiting02:30 – Who Christopher Anderson Really Is05:00 – From the Bronx DA’s Office to Family Law08:30 – Prosecuting Domestic Violence & Crimes Against Children12:00 – Why Family Law Became Personal15:30 – Being a Child of Divorce: When “Getting Out” Costs Everything19:00 – Walking Away From Money to Protect Kids23:00 – “There Has to Be a Better Way”27:00 – Why Divorce Turns Chaotic So Fast31:00 – The Hidden Cost of Conflict on Children35:00 – Leadership, Power & Responsibility39:00 – What the Legal System Can’t Fix43:00 – Why Chaos — Not Divorce — Harms Kids47:00 – Testing Everything on Yourself51:00 – Building Firms (and Families) With Intention55:00 – What Actually Protects People Long-Term58:00 – Final Truth: Slow Is Strong Connect With Christopher Anderson LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lawfirmbusiness/ Christopher Anderson — Family Law Attorney & AdvisorBased in Coloradohttps://www.newleaf.family/ Mentioned In This Episode The Circle — Weekly live coaching + My Confident Divorce→ https://myconfidentdivorce.com/circle OurFamilyWizard — Court-trusted co-parenting communication→ https://ourfamilywizard.com/HHB Hembree Bell Law Firm (Texas)→ https://hembreebell.com Follow Hannah on Instagram & TikTok→ @hannahhembreebell This podcast is for education and inspiration only — not legal, medical, or mental health advice.If you’re in Texas and need legal guidance, consult a licensed attorney.If you are in danger, call 911 or the National Domestic Violence Hotline: 800-799-SAFE (7233).

    1h 18m
  3. JAN 20

    When It’s Not Abuse… But It’s Still Not Right (Featuring Kole Whitty)

    Ep.10 When It’s Not Abuse… But It’s Still Not Right (Featuring Kole Whitty) What if the most dangerous place to stay is the one that looks “fine”? In this episode of Not Saving It for Later, Hannah sits down with Kole Whitty for a conversation about divorce, identity, desire, and the moment a woman realizes she can’t keep betraying herself to keep the peace. This episode is for the woman who isn’t in crisis — but isn’t free either. 00:00 – Welcome to Not Saving It for Later03:10 – When Nothing Is Technically Wrong… But Everything Feels Off 07:45 – The Pressure to Just Be Grateful 12:30 – Staying Loyal to a Life That’s Shrinking You 17:20 – When Your Body Starts Keeping the Score 22:40 – The Fear of Wanting More 28:05 – Leaving Without a Villain 33:50 – The Myth of “Blowing Up Your Life” 39:15 – Doing the Work Instead of Jumping to the Next Thing 45:10 – Money, Revenge, and the Cost of Being Right 50:30 – Desire vs. Deserve 55:40 – If You’re Standing at the Edge Right Now 59:00 – Final Reflections: Choosing Yourself Gently The Circle — Weekly live coaching + The My Confident Divorce course👉 https://myconfidentdivorce.com/circle OurFamilyWizard — The co-parenting communication tool Hannah personally uses and recommends👉 https://www.ourfamilywizard.com/HHB Follow Hannah on Instagram & TikTok👉 @hannahhembreebell Texas family law support - 👉 https://hembreebell.com Not Saving It for Later is the podcast for women navigating divorce and beyond — where we stop whispering about what’s hard and start talking about what’s real. This podcast is for education and inspiration only — not legal, medical, or mental health advice.If you are in danger, contact local emergency services or the National Domestic Violence Hotline at 800-799-SAFE (7233).

    56 min
  4. JAN 13

    Do You Want Justice… or Do You Want Peace? (Featuring Sam Colletti)

    Ep. 9 Do You Want Justice… or Do You Want Peace? (Featuring Sam Colletti) Hannah sits down with Austin family law attorney and mediator Sam Colletti, a trusted colleague and longtime friend, for a ground-level conversation about what mediation actually is, what it isn’t, and why so many people misunderstand their options during divorce. This episode pulls back the curtain on the divorce process — especially the emotional traps that keep people stuck chasing “justice,” burning money, and handing control of their future to a system that was never designed to heal them. If you’ve ever said “I don’t want to go to court — I just want mediation,” this conversation is for you. Hannah and Sam break down: why mediation is not the opposite of court (it’s a waypoint), how chasing retribution often costs more than it gives, where real control actually lives in divorce, and how staying curious instead of judgmental can change the outcome of your case — and your life after it. This is a practical, honest, and human episode about ending a marriage well, protecting your future self, and choosing peace without pretending the pain doesn’t exist. 00:00 – Welcome to Not Saving It for Later 01:00 – Hannah and Sam’s real-life friendship & why this conversation matters 04:30 – What mediation actually is (and why “mediation vs. court” is the wrong question) 08:00 – Why mediation is a waypoint — not a magic alternative 11:45 – The risks of going to court: bells you can’t un-ring 14:00 – Why attorney choice shapes your entire divorce experience 17:00 – The myth of justice in divorce (and what people are really chasing) 21:00 – “Do you want to be right, or do you want to be happy?” 24:00 – Control: where you have it in mediation — and where you lose it in court 28:00 – Why high-conflict cases feel existential (and why that matters) 32:00 – Curiosity vs. judgment: the question that changes mediation outcomes 36:00 – Why compromise isn’t weakness — it’s strategy 39:00 – When trial is the right answer (and when it isn’t) 44:00 – Pre-lawsuit mediation & Sam’s “Mediation for Empowered Uncoupling” model 50:00 – Letting go of revenge without abandoning your needs 54:00 – “Peace is an inside job” — what Hannah learned the hard way 57:00 – Not saving joy, healing, or life for later Mediation is not “avoiding court” — it’s a strategic step within the legal process Court offers catharsis, not control — and rarely delivers the justice people expect Most people aren’t fighting for money; they’re fighting for recognition and fairness You cannot outsource peace to a judge, mediator, or legal system Staying curious instead of judgmental keeps you aligned with your long-term future The goal isn’t to win divorce — it’s to end it without burning your next chapter Sam Colletti is a Texas family law attorney and mediator focused on helping families resolve divorce with clarity, dignity, and intention. Connect With Sam Here: https://nmsb-law.com/ Sam's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sam_d_colletti/?__d=1 Mentioned In This EpisodeThe Circle — Weekly live coaching + The My Confident Divorce course→ myconfidentdivorce.com/circleHembree Bell Law Firm (Texas)→ hembreebell.comFollow Hannah on Instagram & TikTok → @hannahhembreebell Not Saving It for Later is the podcast for women navigating divorce and beyond — where we stop whispering about what’s hard and start talking about what’s real. This show is for education and inspiration only — not legal or mental health advice. If you are in danger, contact local emergency services or the National Domestic Violence Hotline at 800-799-SAFE (7233).

    1h 31m
  5. JAN 6

    The Spy in Your Pocket: What Your Ex Already Knows (featuring Steven Bradley)

    (featuring Steven Bradley, “The Tech Cowboy”) Hannah sits down with former FBI investigator and certified “Tech Cowboy” Steven Bradley — a digital safety expert who has seen every trick, trap, and tech-enabled manipulation used in divorces and abusive relationships. If you’re anywhere near divorce — contemplating it, in the thick of separation, or rebuilding after — this episode is a wake-up call you cannot skip. Steven exposes the invisible ways technology gets weaponized:tracking, cloning phones, spying through Alexa, manipulating text messages, hijacking your Wi-Fi, pulling your location from your AirPods, and even rewriting the narrative inside co-parenting communication. If you’ve ever had the gut feeling he knows too much… or things just feel off… you’re not crazy. And you’re not helpless. This episode teaches you the digital safety steps every woman should take — with or without conflict — so you can reclaim your privacy, your safety, and your peace. 00:00 – Why Technology Is the New Battlefield in Divorce 02:00 – Steven’s Background in FBI Cyber & Domestic Crimes 03:00 – How Your Passwords, Security Questions & Shared Accounts Put You at Risk 05:40 – What’s at Stake If You Ignore Digital Safety 08:50 – Lock It Down: The First Safety Steps Every Woman Should Take 12:10 – The One Thing Almost Everyone Forgets to Change 14:35 – How to Time Your Security Changes Without Starting a War 17:52 – When You’re in a High-Conflict Situation: Advanced Protection 20:25 – Spyware, Stalkerware & Phone Cloning 23:00 – The First 3–4 Months After Separation: The Most Dangerous Window 29:19 – Car Trackers, AirPods, and “Find My” Manipulation 31:59 – Validation: You’re Not Crazy 34:37 – What Lawyers Don’t Understand (Yet) About Tech Abuse 38:09 – Preventative Tech Boundaries for Healthy Marriages & New Starts 42:54 – The Co-Parenting Tool That Changes Everything: OurFamilyWizard 49:48 – Real Talk: You Don’t Have to Be Techy to Stay Safe 54:32 – Not Saving It for Later: What Steven Learned the Hard Way 56:00 – The Thought That’s Been Circling Steven’s Mind 57:02 – What’s Shaking Him Lately 58:07 – His One Message for Women in Divorceland Connect With Steven: LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/steven-bradley-10136022/ OurFamilyWizard → ourfamilywizard.com/HHB(The co-parenting tool used by courts nationwide — and the one Hannah personally swears by.) Mentioned In This Episode The Circle — Weekly live coaching + The My Confident Divorce course→ myconfidentdivorce.com/circle Hembree Bell Law Firm (Texas)→ hembreebell.com Follow Hannah on Instagram & TikTok → @hannahhembreebell This podcast is for education and inspiration only — not legal, medical, or mental health advice.If you’re in Texas and need legal support, consult a licensed attorney.If you’re in danger, call 911 or the National Domestic Violence Hotline: 800-799-SAFE (7233).

    1h 3m
  6. 12/30/2025

    Dishonesty Is Killing You: How to Stop Abandoning Yourself (featuring Tah Whitty)

    Episode 7. Dishonesty Is Killing You: How to Stop Abandoning Yourself(featuring Tah Whitty) In this raw conversation, Hannah sits down with one of the most singular humans she’s ever met: Tah Whitty — former trauma nurse, impossibility alchemist, and the man people go to when they’re finally done lying to themselves. Tah has worked in emergency rooms, with elite performers, with couples on the brink, and with people who have spent their entire lives shrinking, masking, and contorting themselves into someone more “acceptable.” His work sits at the intersection of biology, honesty, safety, nervous system truth, and what it actually takes to become a fully expressed human. If you’ve felt stuck in your marriage… stuck in your patterns… stuck in the “pick me” persona you built to survive… or stuck between the 2 a.m. version of you and the polished daytime one — this episode will feel like relief and reckoning at the same time. Warning: You will not leave this episode the same. And that’s the point. TIMESTAMPS 00:00 – The End of “Later” 02:00 – Who Tah Whitty Really Is 03:30 – Nursing, Trauma & the Body 04:40 – The Most Transformative Thing Tah Taught Hannah: Radical Honesty 07:40 – What Dishonesty Really Is 10:00 – How We Train Ourselves Out of Truth 13:00 – The Vault: How the Body Stores Unspoken Truth 17:00 – Feeling Stuck in a Marriage 18:00 – Anger: The Messenger You’ve Been Taught to Ignore 21:00 – Dishonesty as a Protective Mechanism 25:00 – Men with Tempers: Why It Feels So Scary 27:30 – Boundaries, Self-Worth & The Woman Who Can’t Say “Enough” 31:00 – Why You Need People Outside the Marriage 33:00 – Tyrants, Control & Losing Your Power 36:00 – Society Was Built for Men — And Women Pay the Price 38:00 – Why Women Get Manipulated During Divorce 40:00 – Stop Asking “Why” — Start Asking “What” 43:00 – Are You Really Safe? What Safety Actually Means 45:00 – Why Telling the Truth Will Cost You 48:00 – Dishonesty Will Cost You More 49:30 – The Internet Has Higher Truth Standards Than Marriage 52:00 – Compassion Through Honesty 54:00 – The Two Versions of Hannah 57:00 – The Vault Cracks Open 59:00 – Baby-Step Honesty: How Hannah Rebuilt Herself 01:01:00 – The Miracle of Being Fully Seen🔥 Connect with Tah Whitty: Tah Whitty — Impossibility Alchemist & Coach Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tahfree/?hl=en Work With Tah: https://calltah.com/?utm_source=ig&utm_medium=social&utm_content=link_in_bio&fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQMMjU2MjgxMDQwNTU4AAGnzwypce7KJjeZyaFoY1452zsaii2KYGH4AbInWDdXssC6EMhfRsBKwTUVJNI_aem_gQffKSdqvcH1WEmAeICzuQ Mentioned In This Episode: The Circle — Weekly live coaching + My Confident Divorce → myconfidentdivorce.com/circle OurFamilyWizard — Court-trusted co-parenting communication → ourfamilywizard.com/HHB Hembree Bell Law Firm (Texas) → hembreebell.com Follow Hannah on Instagram & TikTok → @hannahhembreebell This podcast is for education and inspiration only, not legal, medical, or mental health advice. If you’re in Texas and need legal help, consult a licensed attorney. If you’re in danger, call 911 or the National Domestic Violence Hotline: 800-799-SAFE (7233).

    1h 35m
  7. 12/23/2025

    The Truth About Men, Money & Moving On (featuring Holly J. Moore)

    Episode 6. The Truth About Men, Money & Moving On (featuring Holly J. Moore) In this honest, no-fluff conversation, Hannah sits down with powerhouse California divorce attorney Holly J. Moore — the woman who has seen everything from celebrity splits to the emotional landmines women walk into without even knowing it. Holly represents high-net-worth clients, professional athletes, and a whole lot of men — giving her a front-row seat to the differences in how men and women prepare for divorce, survive divorce, and rebuild after divorce. If you’ve ever wondered: Why do men seem to move on faster? Why do women struggle with identity so much more? Why does support feel like both a lifeline and a trap? How do I keep my emotions from blowing up my case? — this episode is a masterclass. Holly and Hannah unpack money wounds, identity collapse, purpose, the danger of revenge energy, the truth about celebrity divorces, and what women must know if they want to stop surviving and start becoming. 00:00 – Why We’re Done Waiting 02:00 – Representing High-Net-Worth Clients & Men 06:00 – How Men and Women Divorce Differently 09:00 – What Support Really Looks Like (California vs. Texas) 12:30 – The Identity Collapse After Divorce 16:00 – What Happens When the Wife Card Gets Pulled 20:00 – Fear, Money & the Truth Women Don’t Want to Admit 23:00 – “It’s Never Too Late to Start Over” 25:00 – The Best & Worst News: Your Life Is On You 27:40 – Who Actually Prepares Better: Men or Women? 29:00 – The One Question Every Woman Needs During Divorce 32:00 – The #1 Mistake Women Make: Using Kids as Pawns 37:00 – The Golden Rule: Never Act While Activated 42:00 – How Men Move On Faster (and Why Women Don’t) 47:00 – The Power of Leaving the Stuff Behind 52:00 – What Celebrity Divorce Really Looks Like 56:00 – Reputation, Leverage & Press Exposure 58:30 – When Emotion Destroys Your Own Case 01:01:30 – The Danger of Being a Divorce Lawyer Connect With Holly: Holly J. Moore – Divorce & Family Lawyer (California) Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hollyjmoore/?hl=en Website: https://www.moorefamilylawgroup.com/careers-2-4/holly-j-moore/ Podcast: Made for More → https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/made-for-moore-with-holly-j-moore/id1730797527 Mentioned In This Episode: The Circle — Weekly live coaching + My Confident Divorce → myconfidentdivorce.com/circle OurFamilyWizard — Court-trusted co-parenting communication → ourfamilywizard.com/HHB Hembree Bell Law Firm (Texas) → hembreebell.com Follow Hannah on Instagram & TikTok → @hannahhembreebell This podcast is for education and inspiration only, not legal, medical, or mental health advice. If you’re in Texas and need legal help, consult a licensed attorney. If you’re in danger, call 911 or the National Domestic Violence Hotline: 800-799-SAFE (7233).

    1h 19m
  8. 12/16/2025

    Becoming the Woman You Were Always Afraid to Be (featuring Lily Shepard)

    Episode 5: Becoming the Woman You Were Always Afraid to Be (featuring Lily Shepard) In this powerful conversation, Hannah sits down with somatic executive coach Lily Shepard to talk about identity, the body, divorce, desire, and what it really means to become the woman you were meant to be. Lily shares her own traumatic divorce experience, how identity collapses when the “wife” role disappears, and how reconnecting to the body creates space for safety, clarity, and authentic expansion. They unpack: why most women run from something, not toward something the collapse that happens when identity is built on roles how to rediscover pieces of yourself you abandoned in marriage practical somatic tools for grounding and self-safety why joy feels terrifying the radical truth: “I want more” is a complete sentence This episode will challenge you, comfort you, and offer a roadmap for the next version of yourself. Hannah and Lily talk about how women evolve, and why identity shouldn’t be pinned down for other people’s comfort. TIMESTAMPS & KEY MOMENTS 0:00 — Living Out Loud 2:07 — Identity Isn’t Fixed 3:55 — The Identity Collapse of Divorce 5:48 — Clinging to the Old Life 7:30 — Running From vs. Running Toward 9:44 — Bitter or Better 12:38 — Identity Built on Others 14:03 — Reclaiming What You Abandoned 19:11 — What Somatic Work Really Means 21:22 — Imagining the Woman You’re Becoming 24:08 — The Body as the Way Home 27:36 — Writing a Letter to Your Body 30:29 — Desire, Shame & “The Lion Inside” 34:01 — The Sentence Divorce Forces Out of You: “I Want More.” 39:23 — Practical Tools for Feeling Safe Again 42:58 — The Hardest Part: Letting Good Things In 47:55 — Best-Case-Scenario Thinking 51:48 — Divorce as a Superpower Work with Lily: Somatic Executive Coaching for high-achieving women rebuilding identity, safety, and desire Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bodyintelligence_academy/?hl=en Website: https://www.bodyintelligenceacademy.com/ Coaching: https://www.bodyintelligenceacademy.com/1-1-coaching Mentioned In This Episode Hannah's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hannahhembreebell/ OurFamilyWizard (OFW) Court-trusted communication tool for co-parents. https://www.ourfamilywizard.com My Confident Divorce (MCD) Hannah’s community + coaching for women navigating divorce, identity, and rebuilding their lives. https://myconfidentdivorce.com Hembree Bell Law Firm (HBLF) Modern, tech-forward Texas family law representation that protects your peace, your kids, and your future. https://hembreebell.com This podcast and its show notes are for educational and informational purposes only. Nothing in this episode constitutes legal advice, mental health advice, or financial advice. Every situation is unique, and listeners should consult with a licensed professional in their state before making decisions related to divorce, parenting, finances, or mental health. If you feel unsafe at any point in your relationship, please contact a local domestic violence hotline or emergency services. Your safety matters.

    1h 19m
5
out of 5
30 Ratings

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Hosted by Hannah Hembree Bell — Texas divorce lawyer, mom, and woman who’s been through it — Not Saving It For Later is the podcast that finally says out loud what everyone else is whispering about divorce, co-parenting, money, dating, and identity. This isn’t polite small talk about “new beginnings.” It’s real conversation about what it takes to tear down a life that no longer fits and build one that finally does.

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