Behind The Wall

Daniel Wall

Behind The Wall is more than a podcast - it’s a front-row seat to the untold stories behind iconic moments in music, film, and entertainment. Each episode pulls back the curtain on how the world’s biggest songs and scenes come to life, from raw demos to breakthrough ideas and the relentless work behind them. Hosted by Daniel Wall, it’s an honest, in-depth series with the artists, producers, and creatives who shape culture, inspiring the next generation to create and reminding us that the stories that change our lives always start Behind The Wall.

  1. 1d ago

    The Original Demos Behind BTS & KPop Demon Hunters

    In this special bonus episode of Behind The Wall, Jenna and Stephen take us inside the original demos behind songs for BTS and K-Pop Demon Hunters, breaking down how these records evolved from rough ideas into songs heard by millions around the world.Want to release your own music? I’ve used DistroKid for over 6 years to get my songs on Spotify, Apple Music, and everywhere else. Use my link to get 7% off your membership ➼ ⁠https://distrokid.com/vip/seven/1296306⁠For the first time, you'll hear early versions, alternate ideas, and the creative decisions that shaped songs like "Butter," "Permission To Dance," "Free," and "What It Sounds Like."But what makes this episode so fascinating isn't just hearing the demos. It's getting a rare look into the creative process itself. How do songwriters know when an idea is special? What changes between a demo and the final version? And what does it actually take to create music that connects with people around the world?💡 This episode is for YOU if:🔥 You're an artist, songwriter, or producer trying to improve your craft🔥 You've ever wondered how hit songs sound before they're finished🔥 You love BTS, K-Pop Demon Hunters, and the stories behind the music🔥 You're fascinated by the songwriting and production processWhat hit me most while filming this wasn't how different some of the demos were. It was realizing that every song starts somewhere. Before the charts, before the streams, before millions of people hear it, every song begins as a simple idea.Jenna and Stephen, thank you for sharing these demos, your stories, and your creative process with all of us. And thank you to everyone who continues to support Behind The Wall and make conversations like this possible.I truly believe this episode will inspire the next generation of songwriters, producers, and creatives.Watch Part 1 Here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYqwu_ShLZ0📘 FREE PDF: 15 Lessons from The Greatest Minds in Music Download now → https://nas.com/behindthewall/products/dxue⬇️ More of Jenna & Stphen📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thejennaandrews/?hl=enhttps://www.instagram.com/iamstephenkirk/?hl=en📱 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thejennaandrews https://www.tiktok.com/@iamstephenkirkSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/2EvaSHAnL1eSsYDMleYlO5?si=RtReMzZZRQuioU0c6oocVw https://open.spotify.com/playlist/37i9dQZF1EFDDnh7fKJYOZ?si=76c8a6f3607d419d⬇️ More of Daniel📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danielwall📱 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@danielswall📺 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DanielsWall

    51 min
  2. 2d ago

    How They Wrote BTS' Biggest Songs... Then K-Pop Demon Hunters Happened

    This is one of those interviews that perfectly captures why Behind The Wall exists.When most people hear a song like "Butter" by BTS, they hear the finished record. What they don't see are the years of work, sacrifice, setbacks, and persistence that made that moment possible.Jenna Andrews and Stephen Kirk are two of the creative minds behind some of the biggest songs in K-pop, including BTS's global smash hit "Butter." More recently, they helped bring the music of K-Pop Demon Hunters to life, contributing to one of the biggest entertainment stories of the year.But this episode isn't really about the songs. It's about the journey.It's about almost giving up. It's about betting on yourself when nobody else sees the vision. It's about spending years developing your craft before the opportunities finally arrive.In this conversation, Jenna and Stephen share the stories behind their careers, the lessons they've learned working with some of the biggest artists in the world, what BTS was really like to work with, and how K-Pop Demon Hunters came together behind the scenes.💡 This conversation is for YOU if:🔥 You're an artist, songwriter, producer, or creative trying to make it🔥 You've ever questioned whether you're on the right path🔥 You love BTS, K-pop, or K-Pop Demon Hunters🔥 You want to learn what success actually looks like behind the scenesI've always believed the most valuable lessons come from hearing successful people talk honestly about the struggles, setbacks, failures, and experiences that shaped them long before the world knew their names.Jenna and Stephen, thank you both for your openness, generosity, and willingness to share your story. I know this conversation is going to inspire a lot of people, especially the next generation of songwriters, producers, and creatives who are still trying to find their place in the world. I hope you enjoy this one as much as I did. Welcome Behind The Wall.⬇️ More of Jenna & Stphen📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thejennaandrews/?hl=enhttps://www.instagram.com/iamstephenkirk/?hl=en📱 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thejennaandrews https://www.tiktok.com/@iamstephenkirkSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/2EvaSHAnL1eSsYDMleYlO5?si=RtReMzZZRQuioU0c6oocVw https://open.spotify.com/playlist/37i9dQZF1EFDDnh7fKJYOZ?si=76c8a6f3607d419d⬇️ More of Daniel📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danielwall📱 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@danielswall📺 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DanielsWall

    1h 24m
  3. Jun 7

    GaryVee: Why Most Creators Will Never Make It (Ep. 44)

    GaryVee has spent the last two decades building businesses, predicting trends, and helping millions of people navigate the internet. But this conversation wasn't really about entrepreneurship. It was about insecurity.In this episode of Behind The Wall, Gary Vaynerchuk opens up about why he believes the internet and social media have fundamentally changed the way we see ourselves, why so many people struggle with comparison, and what it actually takes to build confidence in a world where everyone is constantly being judged.We talk about self-worth, validation, failure, happiness, relationships, creativity, and the hidden cost of living your life through other people's opinions. Gary shares lessons from his own journey, what he's learned from watching millions of people online, and why he believes most people are dramatically underestimating themselves.🎵 Want to release your own music? I’ve used DistroKid for over 6 years to get my songs on Spotify, Apple Music, and everywhere else. Use my link to get 7% off your membership ➼ ⁠https://distrokid.com/vip/seven/1296306⁠💡 This conversation is for YOU if:🔥 You constantly compare yourself to other people online🔥 You're struggling with confidence, self-doubt, or feeling behind in life🔥 You want to build something meaningful but feel afraid of failing🔥 You're trying to figure out what actually matters and how to be happierWhat hit me most wasn't Gary's business advice. It was how much of success comes down to mindset. This conversation challenged the way I think about ambition, comparison, and the pressure we put on ourselves every day.Whether you're an entrepreneur, artist, creator, student, or simply someone trying to find your place in the world, I genuinely believe there's something in this conversation that can help you.Gary, thank you for your honesty, your energy, and for taking the time to share your perspective. And thank you to everyone who continues to support Behind The Wall and helps make conversations like this possible. I hope this episode helps someone who needs to hear it.📘 FREE PDF: 15 Lessons from The Greatest Minds in Music Download now → https://nas.com/behindthewall/products/dxue🧢 Behind The Wall Merch → [LINK]⬇️ More of GaryVee📺 YouTube: @GaryVee📸 Instagram: @garyvee📱 TikTok: @garyvee⬇️ More of Daniel📺 YouTube: @DanielsWall📸 Instagram: @danielwall📱 TikTok: @danielswall

    1h 23m
  4. The Woman Behind Avril Lavigne's Biggest Hits - Lauren Christy (Ep. 43)

    May 29

    The Woman Behind Avril Lavigne's Biggest Hits - Lauren Christy (Ep. 43)

    Lauren Christy helped create the soundtrack of an entire generation. Before she was writing songs like "Complicated," "Sk8er Boi," "I'm With You," and countless other hits, she was a songwriter trying to find her place in an industry that didn't always know what to do with her. In this episode of Behind The Wall, Lauren takes us through her incredible journey from aspiring artist to one of the most influential songwriters and producers of the last two decades. We talk about forming The Matrix, discovering Avril Lavigne, creating the songs that helped define the 2000s, and the reality of what happens after your life changes overnight. But this conversation isn't just about hit songs. It's about betting on yourself when nobody else sees the vision. It's about surviving the uncertainty that comes before success. And it's about what it really feels like when the thing you've spent your entire life chasing finally happens. This conversation is for YOU if: 🔥 You're a songwriter, artist, producer, or creative chasing a dream 🔥 You grew up on the music of the 2000s and want to hear the stories behind it 🔥 You've ever wondered how songs like "Complicated," "Sk8er Boi," and "I'm With You" were actually made 🔥 You've ever felt like success was taking longer than it should What hit me most wasn't just hearing the stories behind these records. It was hearing Lauren talk about the years before anyone knew her name, the setbacks, the sacrifices, and the moments where everything could have gone differently. So many people know these songs. Very few know the story of the woman who helped create them. Lauren, thank you for your honesty, your generosity, and for helping shape the music that so many of us grew up with. It was an honor to finally go Behind The Wall with you. And thank you to everyone who continues to support this show and help bring these conversations to life. I truly believe this episode will inspire the next generation of creatives. 📘 FREE PDF: 15 Lessons from The Greatest Minds in Music Download now → https://nas.io/behindthewall/products...🎵 Want to release your own music? I’ve used DistroKid for over 6 years to get my songs on Spotify, Apple Music, and everywhere else. Use my link to get 7% off your membership ➼ ⁠https://distrokid.com/vip/seven/1296306⁠

    1h 44m
  5. How Hit-Boy Made The Biggest Rap Songs of Our Time (Ep. 39)

    Apr 19

    How Hit-Boy Made The Biggest Rap Songs of Our Time (Ep. 39)

    In this episode of Behind The Wall, Hit-Boy opens up about the journey behind one of the most respected careers in modern music, from producing some of the biggest songs of the last decade to navigating pressure, family, reinvention, legacy, and what it truly takes to stay relevant over time.🎵 Want to release your own music? I’ve used DistroKid for over 6 years to get my songs on Spotify, Apple Music, and everywhere else. Use my link to get 7% off your membership ➼ https://distrokid.com/vip/seven/1296306Then, sitting in the studio, Hit-Boy takes us inside the making of major records, how beats really start, how songs evolve, how to know when something is special, and what separates a good idea from something timeless. From rough ideas to finished songs, we get a rare look into the mind of someone who helped shape an era.But this episode is not just about music. It’s about believing in yourself before the world catches on. It’s about staying hungry after success. It’s about family, growth, resilience, and carrying your last name with pride. It’s about proving that longevity matters more than moments.This conversation is for YOU if:• You’re a producer, songwriter, or artist trying to level up your craft• You want to understand how hit songs are actually made• You’ve ever felt overlooked and needed motivation to keep going• You care about growth, discipline, and long-term success• You love music and want to hear the mindset behind greatnessWhat stood out to me most wasn’t just the stories behind the songs.It was Hit-Boy’s mindset. The discipline. The humility. The way he talks about growth, consistency, family, and never letting success make you comfortable.Hit-Boy, thank you for your openness, your wisdom, and for trusting me with this conversation. I’m grateful we got to go Behind The Wall with you.And thank you to everyone who continues to support this show and help bring these stories to life. This is why Behind The Wall exists, to give you a real look at the people and process behind greatness, and to inspire the next generation of creatives. 📘 FREE PDF: 15 Lessons from The Greatest Minds in Music Download now → https://nas.io/behindthewall/products...⬇️ More of Hit-BoySpotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/6q3p11nP1p80Ey6LrOOSed?si=fpp2AKFMTr2fBBFJhBCs9AInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/hitboy/?hl=en YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@hit-boy ⬇️ More of DanielYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DanielsWall Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danielwall/?hl=en TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@danielswall

    49 min
  6. Why Charlie Puth Is Different From Every Artist (Ep. 38)

    Mar 29

    Why Charlie Puth Is Different From Every Artist (Ep. 38)

    This is hands down one of the most honest conversations we’ve ever had. In this episode of Behind The Wall, Charlie Puth opens up about the reality behind his success, from chasing things he thought would make him happy to realizing they didn’t, to learning what actually matters. 🎵 Want to release your own music? I’ve used DistroKid for over 6 years to get my songs on Spotify, Apple Music, and everywhere else. Use my link to get 7% off your membership ➼ ⁠https://distrokid.com/vip/seven/1296306⁠ Then, sitting at the piano, Charlie takes us inside his biggest songs, breaking down how they really started, how they evolved, and how he actually turns ideas into hit records. From early melodies to finished songs, we get a rare look into how his mind works and why he hears music the way he does.
But this episode isn’t just about the music. It’s about feeling misunderstood, hiding parts of yourself, and trying to figure out what it means to truly be seen and understood, not just by the world, but by yourself. This conversation is for YOU if: * You’re an artist, songwriter, or producer trying to find your sound * You want to understand how hit songs are actually made * You’ve ever felt misunderstood or like people don’t fully see you * You love music and want to experience it on a deeper level What hit me most wasn’t just hearing how these songs were made, it was Charlie’s honesty. The way he talks about music, success, identity, and the pressure to be understood is something I think a lot of people will connect with. Charlie, thank you for your openness, your honesty, and for trusting me with this conversation. I truly believe this is one of the most real and meaningful interviews you’ve ever done. And thank you to everyone who continues to support Behind The Wall and help bring these stories to life. This is why the show exists, to give you a real look at the people and process behind the music, and to inspire the next generation of creatives.

    1h 53m
  7. How Diplo Became BTS & BLACKPINK's Music Producer (Ep. 37)

    Mar 22

    How Diplo Became BTS & BLACKPINK's Music Producer (Ep. 37)

    Diplo didn’t follow a traditional path into music. From studying film and discovering global sounds, to building Major Lazer and collaborating across genres with artists like BTS and BLACKPINK, his career has been defined by one thing: doing what others weren’t willing to try.In this episode, Diplo breaks down how some of the world’s biggest songs started as ideas that didn’t make sense at first, and why that’s often exactly where the best music comes from.But this conversation goes way beyond the songs. It’s about how he built his career by following curiosity instead of trends, learning from different cultures and sounds, taking risks before there was any guarantee they would work, and staying adaptable as the industry continues to evolve💡 This conversation is for YOU if:- You’re an artist, songwriter, or producer trying to find your voice- You’re tired of feeling like you have to follow a formula- You want to understand how to stand out in a crowded space- You’re looking for a new way to think about creativity and growthWhat stood out most to me was his perspective on creativity, the idea that there isn’t one path, one genre, or one formula that leads to success. It’s about being willing to experiment, to stay open, and to keep moving even when the direction isn’t fully clear yet.Diplo shares lessons from years of building across different sounds, cultures, and moments in music, and how those experiences shaped the way he approaches creating today.Diplo, thank you for sharing your journey and your perspective. And to everyone watching, I hope this conversation gives you the confidence to trust your ideas and create something that feels true to you.⬇️ More of Diplo 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/diplo/?hl=en / jonasbrothers📱 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@diplo📺 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@UCKp7UVaoVuiW1qtyPLPVFMQ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/5fMUXHkw8R8eOP2RNVYEZX?si=cH8dlqA2Smu1GId0JXqqQQ⬇️ More of Daniel📺 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DanielsWall 📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danielwall/?hl=en 📱 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@danielswall?lang=en 🎵 Want to release your own music? I’ve used DistroKid for over 6 years to get my songs on Spotify, Apple Music, and everywhere else. Use my link to get 7% off your membership ➼ ⁠https://distrokid.com/vip/seven/1296306⁠

    1h 36m
  8. Jan 31

    Meet The Real Singer of The Greatest Showman (Loren Allred Interview - EP. 36)

    This might be the first time Loren Allred has ever shared her full story from beginning to now.Most people know Loren as the voice behind “Never Enough” from The Greatest Showman, one of the most powerful vocal performances in modern film. But very few people know the years that led up to that moment or the long road she took before the world ever heard her name.Loren grew up in a musical family, trained as a singer, and at one point had a developmental deal with Ne-Yo and Island Def Jam. It was her big break, the moment everything seemed to be happening at once. And then almost overnight, it all disappeared. The deal fell apart, the momentum vanished, and she found herself back at zero, unsure of how to move forward.Instead of quitting, Loren went into the shadows of the industry, recording demos and session vocals for other artists with no guarantee any of it would lead to a career. Those years of anonymity eventually led to The Voice, where she spent a full year preparing for the show, only to watch most of her journey turn into a montage that almost no one saw.And then something unexpected happened. She was asked to demo a song for a film musical that no one had heard of yet. That song became “Never Enough.” When the film came out, millions of people around the world fell in love with her voice without knowing who it belonged to. It was one of the strangest kinds of breakthroughs: the world heard her, but they didn’t see her. And even then, it took more time before Loren stepped out from behind the character and became an artist in her own right.What moved me in this conversation was not just the music. It was Loren’s resilience. Her belief in her craft. The years spent unseen. The almost-breaks that fell apart. And the patience it took to wait for her moment without knowing if it would ever arrive.This interview is for you if:• you are a singer, songwriter, or performer trying to find your way• you have ever been close to success and watched it slip away• you have worked for years without recognition• you believe in late bloomers and second (or third) acts• you love hearing how creative careers actually unfoldTo me, Loren’s story is a reminder that the industry rarely rewards people instantly. Sometimes it takes years. Sometimes it takes heartbreak. Sometimes it takes a role where the world hears you before they know your name. But if you stay in it long enough, your moment finds you.Loren, thank you for trusting us with your story and for letting people see the journey behind the voice that so many already love.📘 FREE PDF: 15 Lessons from The Greatest Minds in Music → https://nas.io/behindthewall/products/dxue🧢 Behind The Wall Merch Drop👕 Be one of the first 150 people and get 20% off with code: WALL20 → https://behindthewall.tv/collections/all⬇️ More of LorenSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/0LyOADBjj28cbvJWTXUEGA?si=J-dC2-DOSy-_pGcmDgbHyw Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lorenallred/?hl=enSpotify: https://www.tiktok.com/@lorenallredofficial YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@lorenallred ⬇️ More of Daniel Wall📺 YouTube: / @danielswall📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/danielwall/📱 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@danielswall

    1h 36m
4.9
out of 5
50 Ratings

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Behind The Wall is more than a podcast - it’s a front-row seat to the untold stories behind iconic moments in music, film, and entertainment. Each episode pulls back the curtain on how the world’s biggest songs and scenes come to life, from raw demos to breakthrough ideas and the relentless work behind them. Hosted by Daniel Wall, it’s an honest, in-depth series with the artists, producers, and creatives who shape culture, inspiring the next generation to create and reminding us that the stories that change our lives always start Behind The Wall.

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