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Don't Listen To Us with Mandy Patinkin and Kathryn Grody

Don’t Listen to Us is an advice show for advice-skeptics and wisdom-lovers, hosted by Mandy Patinkin, Kathryn Grody, and their son Gideon. Legendary actor Mandy (The Princess Bride, Homeland, Criminal Minds) is the consummate entertainer who shoots from the hip, stage actress Kathryn is the thoughtful connector who sees all the nuance, and Gideon is the brave soul keeping them on track (or at least trying). Together, Mandy and Kathryn have 40+ years of marriage, 140+ years of life experience, and a series of viral social media posts where Gideon interviews them and watches both chaos and wisdom ensue. They don’t always agree on what advice to give—in fact, they rarely do. But they draw from their highs and lows as artists, parents, lovers, and humans, to give their unique take on real dilemmas submitted by you -- the listeners. Hang out with this family and you’ll walk away with insights you didn’t expect, stories you’ll want to repeat, and comfort knowing that you’re not alone in figuring out how to survive this fakakta world.

  1. Do Your Friends Have to Share Your Values?

    Jul 1

    Do Your Friends Have to Share Your Values?

    Should you tell a friend you think their job is unethical? Mandy and Kathryn disagree. A listener asks about using AI as a creative. Mandy and Kathryn play the role of their lives - AI bots. Find out what prompts they used. Oh, and Gene Kelly’s wife calls to chat about the famous dancer and actor’s final years and his advice to Mandy. This episode originally aired on 11/19/2025. Have a question, story, weird thought to share with Mandy and Kathryn? Drop us a voice memo here: https://www.speakpipe.com/AskMandyandKathryn or send an email to askmandyandkathryn@gmail.com. 👉 Subscribe so you don’t miss a new episode every week! 🎧 Listen to the podcast on all platforms: https://lemonada.lnk.to/DontListenToUsYT  📱Follow us: @mandypatinkin @lemonadamedia  #MandyPatinkin #KathrynGrody #Podcast #DontListenToUs Head over to Booking.com and start your listing today. Chapters: 00:00 - How we’re feeling today.  01:02 - Mandy's favourite vs Gideon’s favourite joke. 03:09 - Would you tell a friend to quit a job you think is unethical? Mandy and Kathryn disagree. 15:01 - What are the boundaries of using AI in the creative space?  18:40 - Becky gets up! Did you see her?  19:09 - Kathryn’s fear of AI and how Mandy uses it in his concerts.   23:45 - Mandy and Kathryn try their hand at playing an AI bot. Find out what prompts they gave.  25:46 - Iconic dancer Gene Kelly’s widow - Patricia Kelly - asks a question!    27:23 - Gene Kelly’s advice to a young Mandy.  32:27 - How Gene Kelly and Patricia met and other memories.  38:21 - Gene Kelly’s later years and lessons in aging. 45:02 - Singing in the Rain is public domain…so the family sings! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    52 min
  2. Does Wisdom Come With Age? Starting Over After a Move

    Jun 24

    Does Wisdom Come With Age? Starting Over After a Move

    A surprise Off-Off-Broadway debut. The most unforgettable compliment Kathryn Grody and Mandy Patinkin have ever received. One of them left us speechless. Does wisdom always come with age? Or, is that just something older people tell us? And, a question many listeners can relate to: how do you rebuild your life after a major move and start over in a new place? Plus, Kathryn tries her hand at K-Pop - generational culture divides be damned.  Have a question, story, weird thought to share with Mandy and Kathryn? Drop us a voice memo here: https://www.speakpipe.com/AskMandyandKathryn or send an email to askmandyandkathryn@gmail.com. 👉 Subscribe so you don’t miss a new episode every week! 🎧 Listen to the podcast on all platforms: https://lemonada.lnk.to/DontListenToUsYT  📱Follow us: @mandypatinkin @lemonadamedia  #MandyPatinkin #KathrynGrody #Podcast #DontListenToUs Chapters: 00:00 Becky’s musical debut. In case you missed it!  01:50 Welcome to Don’t Listen to Us! We’re all about the compliments.  02:00 The best compliment Kathryn Grody has ever received.  02:45 A generational culture feud. Gena Rowlands, anyone? John Cassavetes? Joe and Gail Papp? Slam Dance Butterfingers? ;)  04:55 Mandy Patinkin’s most memorable “compliment.” Gideon’s response? “Wow.” 07:44 The best compliment Mandy Patinkin and Kathryn Grody ever gave each other. 08:19 Does wisdom always come with age? And, when have you felt the wisest?  09:50 Mandy Patinkin “thinks too much.”  11:04 Kathryn Grody’s thoughts on what keeps you wise.  11:55 Kathryn Grody’s impression of K-Pop.  13:27 The one tip that will help you become wise.  14:10 Dog treat taste test… Again?  14:25 Family’s old dog, Nondo, and the disputed energy bar story.  16:03 A family friend joins us. He shares his story of fleeing Afghanistan and what it was like to start from scratch and settle in America. 20:18 Community, social life and neighbourly connections. What our family friend misses most about Afghanistan.   21:55 Listener question: How do you adjust to a new life and start over?  27:05 How do you remember who you are when everything and everyone around you is new? 31:00 Goodbyes. Send us your questions. Credits. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    37 min
  3. Have You Ever Encountered a Ghost?

    Jun 17

    Have You Ever Encountered a Ghost?

    A listener asks Mandy and Kathryn whether they've ever encountered a ghost. Stories about the paranormal, being present at a birth and a death, and the surprise career turning points that shape a life.  Also, a conversation about how theater should be more welcoming to audiences with diverse needs, and the raucous return of the Dating Game. Do Mandy Patinkin and Kathryn Grody know each other’s favorite movie? Have a question, story, weird thought to share with Mandy and Kathryn? Drop us a voice memo here: https://www.speakpipe.com/AskMandyandKathryn or send an email to askmandyandkathryn@gmail.com. Check out Touretteshero.com! Their mission is to create an inclusive and socially just world for disabled and non-disabled people through cultural practice. Watch on Spotify. Spotify Premium users get no commercial breaks on our show. 👉 Subscribe so you don’t miss a new episode every week! 🎧 Listen to the podcast on all platforms: https://lemonada.lnk.to/DontListenToUsYT  📱Follow us: @mandypatinkin @lemonadamedia  #MandyPatinkin #KathrynGrody #Podcast #DontListenToUs Chapters: 00:00 Tech Troubles and Home on the Range 00:25 Morning Check-In With Mandy Patinkin and Kathryn Grody 01:33 Breathing Exercise for Stress Relief 02:19 Collagen Coffee and Wellness Trends 03:22 Listener Question: Do You Believe in Ghosts? 03:47 Ghost Stories and Theater Hauntings 06:45 Mandy's Paranormal Experience of Death 09:16 How Small Moments Shape Our Lives 09:53 The Paper Bag Memory That Changed Everything 12:18 Rewriting Your Life Story 13:15 Kathryn's Unexpected Broadway Break 14:12 Auditions, Connection, and Being Seen 14:59 The Power of Giving Birth 16:18 Listener Question from a Neurodivergent Theater Lover 18:33 Making Theater Welcoming for Everyone 19:04 Relaxed Performances and Autism-Friendly Theater 23:45 Accessibility, Inclusion, and Advocacy in the Arts 27:18 Tourette Syndrome at the Edinburgh Fringe 31:58 Dating Game! 33:46 Do Mandy and Kathryn Know Each Other’s Favorite Movie? 36:29 Credits, Subscribe, and Listener Questions Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    41 min
  4. The Dating App Episode (Plus a Rare Sondheim Story)

    Jun 10

    The Dating App Episode (Plus a Rare Sondheim Story)

    What would happen if Mandy Patinkin and Kathryn Grody joined a dating app? In this episode, they imagine their dating profiles, invent wildly different dating apps of their own, and reveal what they're really looking for in human connection. Plus, a listener question about navigating a younger, condescending boss at work. And Mandy tells the unforgettable story of the first time Stephen Sondheim played him "Finishing the Hat" during rehearsal for Sunday in the Park with George—and why, decades later, he still rarely sings the song outside the show. Have a question, story, weird thought to share with Mandy and Kathryn? Drop us a voice memo here: https://www.speakpipe.com/AskMandyandKathryn or send an email to askmandyandkathryn@gmail.com. 👉 Subscribe so you don’t miss a new episode every week! 🎧 Listen to the podcast on all platforms: https://lemonada.lnk.to/DontListenToUsYT  📱Follow us: @mandypatinkin @lemonadamedia  #MandyPatinkin #KathrynGrody #Podcast #DontListenToUs Head over to Booking.com and start your listing today. Chapters: 00:00 Home on the Range! 01:30 Mandy and Kathryn Catch Up 02:58 What If Mandy and Kathryn Joined Dating Apps? 04:04 Dating Apps Explained (and Misunderstood) 05:26 The Weirdest Niche Dating Apps 06:50 Dating App Dealbreakers 07:46 The Hugging App: Would It Work? 11:09 Building Mandy and Kathryn's Dating Profiles 14:59 Inventing Our Own Dating Apps 15:59 What is a Cultural Touchstone That Changed You? 17:17 Empathy Across Generations 18:22 Learning Empathy and Perspective 20:25 Why Kathryn Changed Her Mind About Musicals 21:21 Mandy Patinkin on the Origins of "Finishing the Hat" 23:19 The First Time Stephen Sondheim Shared "Finishing the Hat" 26:42 How Mandy Felt When He First Sang “Finishing the Hat”  29:13 Workplace Advice: Dealing With a Younger Boss 35:38 Giving Creative Notes Across Generations 37:52 Final Thoughts and Credits Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    42 min
  5. Why We’re All Addicted to Our Phones

    Jun 3

    Why We’re All Addicted to Our Phones

    A teen asks the question we’re all struggling with: how do you protect your mental health when your phone, social media, and the news cycle never stop? We talk doomscrolling, screen time and the pressure to always be “plugged in.” And, what’s the best excuse to get out of a social obligation? We debate the most believable exits to cancel plans and the guilt of saying no. Plus, can Kathryn survive a pop culture quiz? Does she know who Taylor Swift is dating?  Have a question, story, weird thought to share with Mandy and Kathryn? Drop us a voice memo here: https://www.speakpipe.com/AskMandyandKathryn or send an email to askmandyandkathryn@gmail.com. 👉 Subscribe so you don’t miss a new episode every week! 🎧 Listen to the podcast on all platforms: https://lemonada.lnk.to/DontListenToUsYT  📱Follow us: @mandypatinkin @lemonadamedia  #MandyPatinkin #KathrynGrody #Podcast #DontListenToUs #PhoneAddiction #Doomscrolling #DigitalDetox #ScreenTime #GenZ #GenZCulture #InternetCulture #MentalHealth Head over to Booking.com and start your listing today. Chapters: 00:00 - Gideon Grody-Patinkin finally comes out from behind the camera!  00:28 - Kathryn Grody takes a pop culture quiz. Who’s Taylor Swift dating? What’s main character syndrome? And what are girl dinners?  03:51 - A teen listener asks about phone addiction and how to maintain your mental health.  05:15 - How to combat doomscrolling with joy and hope. 11:57 - Family guest Ivan Cash suggests phone boundaries that can help with phone addiction.  12:54 - Nightly doomscrolling before bed. Are alarm clocks the solution? 16:39 - A phone meditation you can do too. 22:50 - How do you work with family without ruining the relationship? Gideon asks for a friend.  25:30 - What’s the best excuse to get out of a social obligation?  26:47 - We debate the best and most believable injuries to cancel plans.  33:21 - Can we be honest about not wanting to go? The guilt of saying no to social obligations. 34:00 - Goodbyes. Credits. Thank yous! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    39 min
  6. May 27

    TOMS Founder Blake Mycoskie Tells Michael Pollan How Success Broke Him

    New series sneak peek! No Magic Pill is hosted by TOMS Shoes founder Blake Mycoskie, who fell apart after building and selling one of the most recognized brands on the planet. After a years-long journey through every therapy and treatment imaginable, Blake is finally talking honestly about the dark side of success and the reality of mental health. In No Magic Pill, Blake travels the country to sit down with survivors, experts, and cultural icons who have looked into the darkness and found a way out. These aren’t stories of quick fixes; they are honest conversations about the daily choices, big and small, that create a path forward. When Blake was at the lowest point in his life, a small dose of a psychoactive cacti called San Pedro showed him the truth underneath everything. He recorded the session and in this episode he shares certain moments with journalist Michael Pollan (author of How to Change Your Mind) to break down what happened. They discuss the power of pairing psychedelics with meditation, the breakthroughs that can come with ego disillusion, and the misguided assumption that’s driving the belief that AI can become conscious. Plus, how Michael’s experiencing gardening while on mushrooms inspired the opening chapter of his new book, A World Appears. In this conversation you’ll learn: Why psychedelics are unlike any other drug The importance of set and setting when taking plant medicine  Why light doses are often more effective than heavier doses How to break the pattern of ruminating thoughts The critical period after a psychedelic experience The opportunities and dangers of AI therapy Enough Foundation's mission is to spread reminders in every form — bracelets, messages, actions, community — until feeling ENOUGH becomes the cultural default. To learn more, visit weareenough.co. Stay up to date with Lemonada on X, Facebook, and Instagram. For a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this and every other Lemonada show, go to lemonadamedia.com/sponsors. Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at lemonadapremium.com. Disclaimer: This episode is for informational and entertainment purposes only and is not intended as medical advice. Always consult a qualified healthcare professional regarding any medical questions or concerns you may have Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    1h 4m

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Don’t Listen to Us is an advice show for advice-skeptics and wisdom-lovers, hosted by Mandy Patinkin, Kathryn Grody, and their son Gideon. Legendary actor Mandy (The Princess Bride, Homeland, Criminal Minds) is the consummate entertainer who shoots from the hip, stage actress Kathryn is the thoughtful connector who sees all the nuance, and Gideon is the brave soul keeping them on track (or at least trying). Together, Mandy and Kathryn have 40+ years of marriage, 140+ years of life experience, and a series of viral social media posts where Gideon interviews them and watches both chaos and wisdom ensue. They don’t always agree on what advice to give—in fact, they rarely do. But they draw from their highs and lows as artists, parents, lovers, and humans, to give their unique take on real dilemmas submitted by you -- the listeners. Hang out with this family and you’ll walk away with insights you didn’t expect, stories you’ll want to repeat, and comfort knowing that you’re not alone in figuring out how to survive this fakakta world.

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