Dual Source Discourse

Dr. Elouise Epstein + Sarah Scudder
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Procurement doesn’t have to be boring! Join hosts Dr. Elouise Epstein and Sarah Scudder on Dual Source Discourse, the podcast where they unpack the complexities of supply chain and procurement with a twist of humor and intellect. In each episode, Sarah brings a burning topic to the table, armed with opinions and insights, while Dr. Elouise plays devil's advocate, challenging assumptions and shedding light on alternative perspectives. From the boardroom to the warehouse floor, Dual Source Discourse dives into the big-picture issues shaping the world of supply chain management and procurement. Whether it's discussing the impacts of global trade policies, dissecting the latest technology trends, or exploring strategies for sustainable sourcing, they're here to break it down and make it accessible and entertaining. So, grab your headphones and join them as they navigate the wacky world of supply chain.

  1. 4d ago

    Bubble, Buffet, and Blast Offs: The Real Cost of AI | Dual Source Discourse #94

    DATA CENTERS, AI COSTS, AND THE NEXT INFRASTRUCTURE RECKONING Recorded live at a KonnectHouse procurement event in San Francisco, Sarah Scudder and Dr. Elouise Epstein dig into the growing economic reckoning behind AI. They explore the shift from subsidized AI subscriptions toward token- and usage-based pricing, the challenge of forecasting unpredictable AI costs, and the growing role of energy and power availability in data center economics. The conversation also examines the financial risks behind massive AI infrastructure investments, community resistance to new data centers, and unconventional alternatives such as orbital data centers and distributed computing through homes and garages. The hosts then take a contrarian look at the future of AI infrastructure and ask whether the answer to rising data center demand may actually be less centralized computing. Dr. Elouise explores the potential for AI models to move onto enterprise infrastructure, personal devices, and wearables, while Sarah and Dr. Elouise discuss edge AI, data sovereignty, open-source models, workforce adoption, outcome-based pricing, and the changing economics of enterprise technology. The episode ultimately asks a bigger question: as AI becomes more embedded in how we work and live, will the future be defined by bigger data centers—or by AI becoming smaller, more distributed, and increasingly local? Key Points: • AI pricing is entering a reckoning: Sarah and Dr. Elouise discuss how subsidized AI subscription models may not be sustainable as companies move toward token-based billing and procurement teams struggle to forecast usage-based costs. • Data center economics are being driven by power: The hosts emphasize that energy availability, grid constraints, infrastructure costs, and community pushback are now major factors shaping where and how data centers get built. • Alternative data center models are emerging: The episode explores unusual but increasingly discussed ideas, including orbital data centers from Cowboy Space and distributed data-center capacity through homes and garages via SPAN. • Edge AI could reshape the infrastructure debate: Dr. Elouise argues that many AI models may move out of centralized data centers and onto enterprise infrastructure, personal devices, and wearables, changing how businesses and consumers use AI. ✨Highlights✨ 00:00 Introduction to the live episode from KonnectHouse in San Francisco 02:03 The AI economics reckoning: subsidized pricing and token-based billing 08:38 AI token costs, energy consumption, and the economics of data centers 13:39 Cowboy Space and the idea of putting data centers in orbit 17:08 SPAN and the concept of distributed data centers in homes and garages 20:32 Dr. Elouise’s contrarian view: AI moves from data centers to edge devices 24:00 Data sovereignty, open-source AI, and the global AI race 28:00 Can edge AI and cloud AI coexist? 31:03 Why power is becoming the number-one factor in data center decisions 33:40 AI adoption and the emerging divide in the workforce 37:36 Outcome-based pricing, AI agents, and the future of support desk models 38:27 Final takeaway: procurement’s approach to negotiating IT is fundamentally changing Stay Connected! Please subscribe so you don’t miss an episode! And, as always, submit your questions and topic suggestions for future podcasts https://shorturl.at/PbNi6 Follow us on YouTube for episode video recordings. : https://rb.gy/t5hbw8 Hosts: Sarah Scudder and Dr. Elouise Epstein Producer: Sabrina Mougin

    Bubble, Buffet, and Blast Offs: The Real Cost of AI | Dual Source Discourse #94

  2. Sep 9

    AI Roundup | Dual Source Discourse #93

    AI, ProcureTech Consolidation, Data Centers & the Future of Storytelling The two procurement nerds are back! Sarah Scudder and Dr. Elouise Epstein reconnect to catch up on major developments across procurement, ProcureTech, artificial intelligence, and go-to-market strategy. They discuss Supplier.io’s acquisition of Tealbook and SpendHQ’s acquisition of SLIGO, exploring what these moves signal about the growing importance of data quality, AI readiness, and platform consolidation. They also dive into the growing impact of data centers on procurement teams, including the challenges around energy, water, infrastructure, and AI-driven demand. From there, the conversation expands into AI regulation, data privacy, data poisoning, AI-generated content, and the future of software and SaaS. Sarah and Dr. Elouise explore why storytelling and authenticity may become even more important as AI makes it easier to build, design, code, and create. They wrap up with a look at wearable AI, including Meta Ray-Ban glasses and Apple’s rumored AI glasses, and the potential, and privacy concerns, of moving AI beyond our phones and into our everyday lives. Key Points: • ProcureTech consolidation is accelerating. Supplier.io’s acquisition of Tealbook and SpendHQ’s acquisition of SLIGO are examples of a broader shift toward platform consolidation, stronger data capabilities, and AI-enabled procurement technology. • Data quality is becoming an AI prerequisite. Organizations can’t expect successful AI implementations if their underlying data is inaccurate, incomplete, fragmented, or untrusted. Data quality is increasingly moving from a technical concern to an executive-level business issue. • Data centers are becoming a procurement and policy issue. As AI drives massive demand for computing infrastructure, communities are grappling with questions around energy consumption, water usage, infrastructure, privacy, and the local impact of data center development. • AI is lowering the barrier to creation. Coding, design, video production, and content creation are becoming accessible to people who previously needed specialized technical skills. As the ability to build becomes easier, differentiation may increasingly come from strategy, creativity, storytelling, and distribution. • Authentic storytelling will become more valuable. When everyone can generate content, simply producing more content isn't necessarily a competitive advantage. Clear communication, memorable stories, and an authentic human voice can become increasingly important ways to stand out. ✨Highlights✨ 00:00 Sarah and Dr. Elouise return after a hiatus and preview an AI-heavy episode covering procurement, data centers, and major industry developments. 05:15 Supplier.io’s acquisition of Tealbook and what it signals about the growing importance of data quality and AI readiness. 07:51 SpendHQ’s acquisition of SLIGO and what the deal could mean for the future of AI-enabled ProcureTech. 11:50 ProcureTech mergers, private equity activity, and the surprisingly effective marketing power of SpendHQ’s mascot, Spendy. 15:23 The AI news roundup begins, covering data center moratoriums, AI security concerns, data poisoning, and the fragility of public AI models. 16:56 AI, regulation, and politics—and how data centers, energy consumption, privacy, and AI safety could become increasingly important policy issues. 23:39 A Seth Godin quote about marketing and storytelling sparks a conversation about differentiation in an AI-enabled world. 34:13 Wearable AI, including Meta Ray-Ban glasses, Apple’s rumored AI glasses, real-time translation, and the privacy challenges of always-on devices. Continue the Conversation! Have a question or topic you'd like Sarah and Dr. Elouise to discuss on a future episode? Submit your questions and topic suggestions here: https://shorturl.at/PbNi6 Watch episode video recordings on YouTube: https://rb.gy/t5hbw8 Hosts: Sarah Scudder and Dr. Elouise Epstein Producer: Sabrina Mougi

    AI Roundup | Dual Source Discourse #93

  3. Sep 2

    Consulting Careers in an AI Era | Dual Source Discourse #92

    Artificial intelligence is reshaping the consulting industry—and procurement and supply chain consulting are no exception. In this episode, Sarah Scudder and Dr. Elouise Epstein explore how AI is changing the traditional consulting model, from the shrinking bottom of the consulting pyramid to the skills consultants need to stay relevant. They discuss how AI is increasingly taking on the analysis, research, and other foundational work traditionally performed by junior consultants, raising important questions about how the next generation of consultants will learn and develop. Key Points: • The Shrinking Consulting Pyramid: How AI is changing the traditional apprenticeship model by taking on much of the analysis, research, and foundational work traditionally performed by junior consultants. • The Skills Consultants Need Now: Why prompt engineering, AI tool proficiency, interpretation and decision-making, storytelling, relationship-building, and other soft skills are becoming increasingly important. • The Rise of New Consulting Roles: Exploring roles such as model auditors and strategy translators that can bridge the gap between AI, technical teams, and business strategy. • AI + Deep Expertise: Why combining deep subject-matter expertise with AI fluency may be one of the strongest paths forward for consultants. • Rethinking Traditional Consulting: How AI could challenge consulting models built around labor arbitrage, knowledge arbitrage, outsourcing, and large teams of junior consultants. • How to Evaluate AI-Fluent Consultants: What organizations should look for, and what questions they can ask, to distinguish genuine AI proficiency from AI buzzwords. • The Future of Consulting Careers: Advice for early- and mid-career consultants navigating an industry that is changing rapidly. ✨Highlights✨ 00:00 How AI is changing the consulting landscape 05:50 “AI isn’t taking your job. It’s taking away the parts of your job that you used to learn on.” 09:35 Four must-have skills for modern consultants 10:52 Why interpretation and decision-making still require human judgment 14:26 Emerging roles and career models in consulting 19:20 Why human perspective, interpretation, and judgment still matter 21:34 Why consultants should lean into AI now 26:44 What organizations should look for when hiring AI-fluent consultants 32:46 The AI tools making the biggest impact on consulting work 37:25 Why deep subject-matter expertise + AI proficiency could be the winning combination 41:36 What the future could hold for legacy consulting firms Please subscribe so you don’t miss an episode and, as always, submit questions and topic suggestions for future podcasts ⁠⁠here: https://shorturl.at/PbNi6 Follow us on YouTube for episode video recordings: https://rb.gy/t5hbw8 Apple Podcasts: https://rb.gy/c8nknq Spotify: https://rb.gy/w01h4t Hosts: Sarah Scudder and Dr. Elouise Epstein Producer: Sabrina Mougin

    Consulting Careers in an AI Era | Dual Source Discourse #92

  4. Aug 26

    Where’s My Fire Truck? America's Hottest Shortage Explained | Dual Source Discourse #91

    What happens when the suppliers responsible for critical public infrastructure become increasingly concentrated? In this episode of Dual Source Discourse, Sarah Scudder and Dr. Elouise Epstein take a deep dive into the U.S. fire truck shortage and the procurement and supply chain dynamics behind it. They explore how private equity consolidation, reduced supplier competition, long lead times, proprietary components, and rising costs are creating challenges for municipalities that depend on these vehicles to keep communities safe. The conversation goes beyond the fire truck itself to examine the broader implications for public-sector procurement, supply chain resilience, asset management, maintenance, forecasting, and critical infrastructure. Among the questions they explore: What happens when a municipality has to wait years for a new fire truck? What happens when a truck is available but can't be repaired because replacement parts are difficult to source? And how should procurement and supply chain leaders prepare when critical suppliers are acquired or consolidated? The episode also examines the trade-offs between custom-built and standardized fire trucks, the financial pressure rising equipment costs place on cities, and why understanding the ownership and concentration of your supplier market may be just as important as monitoring traditional supplier risk. Referenced Videos & Resources: 1st Video: The Shocking Reason for the US Fire Truck Shortage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvW-RtTRm8w Key Issues Highlighted: 1. Artificial Supply Shortages: Private equity firms acquired multiple fire truck manufacturers, creating monopolistic control, reducing competition, and leading to artificial bottlenecks in supply. 2. Price Inflation: Fire truck prices tripled within a decade, driven by private equity strategies aimed at maximizing investor returns by consolidating manufacturers, eliminating competition, and raising prices. 3. Delayed Deliveries & Repairs: Delivery times for new fire trucks increased dramatically, from a few months to up to four years, leaving communities dangerously underequipped. Parts and maintenance have also become challenging due to proprietary parts controlled by monopolistic suppliers. 4. Public Safety Risks: The shortage and delays have tangible consequences—many fire trucks are out of service, compromising public safety and forcing fire departments to use outdated or inappropriate vehicles in emergencies. 5. REV Group’s Market Control: A single conglomerate, REV Group, has effectively monopolized the market, controlling approximately 30% directly but influencing much more of the market indirectly, particularly through exclusive control over components. 6. Impact on Rural and Urban Communities: Both large cities and rural towns face severe procurement difficulties, creating an interconnected crisis affecting emergency response nationwide. Root Causes: ● Private Equity Roll-ups: American Industrial Partners executed a market "roll-up," acquiring and consolidating independent fire truck manufacturers, significantly reducing competition and increasing market power. ● COVID as an Excuse: Although supply chain disruptions during COVID-19 were initially blamed, shortages and price hikes intensified post-pandemic, suggesting deliberate manipulation. Suggested Solutions: ● Enforcement of Antitrust Laws: Using existing state and federal antitrust legislation to break up monopolistic practices and restore competitive market conditions in procurement processes. ● Legal Action by Authorities: Emphasis on local and state authorities proactively using antitrust laws to challenge monopolies, promoting competitive practices and fair pricing in critical public sectors. 2nd Video: Additional Resource https://youtu.be/ohQNPKkWlGI https://youtu.be/ohQNPKkWlGI ✨Highlights✨ 00:00 Introduction and why firefighters are especially important to the hosts 03:36 The More Perfect Union investigation into the U.S. fir

    Where’s My Fire Truck? America's Hottest Shortage Explained | Dual Source Discourse #91

  5. Aug 19

    The Impact of AI on the Procurement Consulting Industry | Dual Source Discourse #90

    Artificial intelligence is changing how procurement teams work, and procurement consulting is no exception. In this episode of Dual Source Discourse, Sarah Scudder and Dr. Elouise Epstein explore the impact of AI on the procurement consulting industry, from AI-powered data cleansing and spend analysis to sourcing, consulting project timelines, pricing models, and the skills consultants will need to remain valuable. The conversation examines both the opportunities and challenges AI creates for procurement consultants. AI can dramatically reduce the time consultants spend on manual work such as data organization, research, and spend classification, allowing them to focus more heavily on strategic thinking and specialized expertise. But increased efficiency also raises fundamental questions about the traditional consulting business model, and whether clients will continue paying for long, labor-intensive engagements when AI can compress months of work into weeks or even days. Key Points: • AI could fundamentally change the economics of procurement consulting: When AI can handle large portions of research, data preparation, classification, and analysis, consultants can spend more time on strategic work and specialized expertise. • Procurement data quality becomes even more important: AI is only as useful as the data it works with. Organizations need clean, structured, reliable procurement data to successfully leverage AI for spend analysis and decision-making. • Consulting projects could become dramatically shorter: Work that historically required months of data preparation, sourcing, analysis, and execution could increasingly be completed in weeks as AI automates more of the process. • Traditional consulting pricing models may need to evolve: If AI allows consultants to deliver the same outcomes with significantly fewer hours, firms may need to rethink models based on labor arbitrage, headcount, and time-based billing. • AI fluency will become a core consulting skill: Consultants will need to understand how to work effectively with AI, including how to structure prompts, evaluate outputs, provide context, and iterate toward better results. ✨Highlights✨ 0:00 AI's impact on procurement and consulting 0:45 The opportunities and challenges AI creates for consulting 1:54 AI efficiency versus unique client value 4:10 Could AI disrupt traditional consulting firms? 6:15 The problem with low-quality AI-generated deliverables 7:40 The emerging need for AI consulting and AI specialists 15:30 Using AI to organize and cleanse procurement data 20:05 Why clean procurement data is essential for AI success 31:00 Why prompting is becoming a critical skill for consultants 35:40 How AI could compress six-month consulting projects into weeks Please make sure to subscribe so you don’t miss an episode and, as always, submit questions and topics suggestions for future podcasts ⁠⁠here: https://shorturl.at/PbNi6 Follow us on YouTube for episode video recordings: https://rb.gy/t5hbw8 Hosts: Sarah Scudder and Dr. Elouise Epstein Producer: Sabrina Mougin

    The Impact of AI on the Procurement Consulting Industry | Dual Source Discourse #90

  6. Aug 12

    What is AI Native? | Dual Source Discourse #89

    AI-NATIVE PROCUREMENT: HOW TO EVALUATE, PRICE, AND BUY THE NEXT GENERATION OF AI In this episode, Sarah and Dr. Elouise unpack what it really means for a product to be AI-native and why the distinction matters for procurement professionals. They compare AI-enabled products with AI-native systems, explain how to spot AI-washing during supplier evaluations, and share five questions buyers should ask vendors before signing a contract. The conversation then moves into the rapidly changing economics of AI, including consumption-based, outcome-based, and hybrid pricing models, as well as the importance of spend caps, flexible seat counts, and clearly defined billable units. They also explore emerging contract considerations around data rights, exit rights, SLAs, AI accuracy, and vendor lock-in. Finally, Sarah and Dr. Elouise discuss how AI is reshaping procurement itself through intake and triage, contract review, supplier discovery, and market coverage—while emphasizing that clean data, build-versus-buy analysis, and thoughtful evaluation remain foundational to successful AI adoption. Key Points: • AI-Native vs. AI-Enabled Technology: How to distinguish products built around AI from traditional software with AI features bolted on—and why the difference affects product longevity, extensibility, pricing, and procurement decisions. • How to Evaluate AI Vendors: Five questions procurement teams should ask, including when AI entered the product, what happens if AI is disabled, whether vendors will demonstrate the product using your data, how they measure error rates, and how much of their engineering roadmap is dedicated to AI. • The Changing Economics of AI: Why traditional per-seat pricing becomes problematic when AI agents perform work previously handled by employees, and how consumption-based, outcome-based, and hybrid pricing models are emerging. • AI Procurement Requires New Contract Thinking: Data rights, exit rights, quality-based SLAs, spend caps, flexible seat counts, defined billable units, vendor lock-in, and data quality are becoming critical considerations when purchasing AI. ✨Highlights✨ 00:00 Introduction. to the concept of AI-native and explain why the term matters for procurement 02:38 The difference between AI as a bolt-on feature and AI as the foundation of a product 06:44 AI-washing and the challenge of determining whether vendors are genuinely AI-native 08:07 Five questions procurement professionals should ask AI vendors 12:29 AI error rates, hallucinations, evaluation infrastructure, customization, and governance guardrails 23:51 Consumption-based, outcome-based, and hybrid AI pricing 30:03 Data rights, model training, exit rights, and ownership of workflows and IP 33:24 Why traditional uptime SLAs may not be enough for AI 39:30 How AI is already rebuilding procurement through intake and triage Please make sure to subscribe so you don’t miss an episode and, as always, submit questions and topics suggestions for future podcasts ⁠⁠here: https://shorturl.at/PbNi6 Follow us on YouTube for episode video recordings: https://rb.gy/t5hbw8 Hosts: Sarah Scudder and Dr. Elouise Epstein Producer: Sabrina Mougin

    What is AI Native? | Dual Source Discourse #89

  7. Aug 5

    Another Cornucopia Episode | Dual Source Discourse #88

    From global procurement conferences to AI-powered software development, Sarah and Dr. Elouise explore how artificial intelligence is reshaping enterprise technology, sourcing strategies, and the future of procurement. Sarah and Dr. Elouise celebrate a new milestone today as Dr. Elouise LLC becomes the official podcast sponsor before diving into a wide-ranging discussion on AI, procurement technology, and lessons learned from recent international travels. Dr. Elouise shares insights from conferences across Ireland, Northern Ireland, Germany, and the UK, highlighting how intimate industry events create better networking opportunities and stronger customer connections. The conversation explores one of the biggest shifts happening in enterprise technology today: organizations choosing to build their own AI-powered source-to-pay platforms instead of purchasing traditional procurement software. Sarah and Dr. Elouise discuss the financial tradeoffs, security considerations, and how AI is dramatically reducing the time and cost required to develop enterprise applications. They also recap an AI Supply Chain Hackathon focused on improving food bank operations, discuss the growing maturity of enterprise AI adoption, and examine how subscription-based AI tools are quietly increasing both personal and business technology expenses. The episode concludes with a preview of next week's discussion on what it truly means to be an "AI-native" company. Key Points: • AI is accelerating custom procurement software development, making self-built source-to-pay platforms a realistic alternative to traditional enterprise suites. • Smaller industry conferences create stronger networking opportunities, deeper conversations, and more memorable customer experiences than large-scale events. • Enterprise AI adoption is rapidly maturing, with organizations moving beyond personal productivity into process transformation and platform innovation. • AI subscriptions are creating hidden technology costs, forcing both individuals and organizations to rethink budgeting and consumption-based pricing. ✨Highlights✨ 00:00 Dr. Elouise LLC becomes the podcast's official sponsor and discussion of her new AI consulting business 04:40 Travel recap across Dublin, Belfast, London, Hamburg, and Berlin, and why smaller conferences deliver greater value 09:45 Lessons from the Kilbar Conference, conference planning best practices, and memorable attendee experiences 18:40 The importance of authenticity, networking, and personal branding at industry events 24:15 Visiting Derry with Michelle Armstrong, cultural observations, and reflections inspired by Derry Girls 30:45 A major enterprise client chooses to build its own AI-powered source-to-pay platform instead of purchasing traditional procurement software 36:20 Security considerations, implementation costs, and why AI is changing the economics of enterprise software development 42:30 AI maturity is evolving as organizations move beyond individual productivity into enterprise-wide transformation 45:10 Recap of the AI Supply Chain Hackathon focused on food bank operations, volunteer management, and inventory optimization 53:15 Personal and business AI subscriptions, hidden software costs, and the rise of consumption-based pricing Please make sure to subscribe so you don’t miss an episode and, as always, submit questions and topics suggestions for future podcasts ⁠⁠here: https://shorturl.at/PbNi6 Follow us on YouTube for episode video recordings: https://rb.gy/t5hbw8 Hosts: Sarah Scudder and Dr. Elouise Epstein Producer: Sabrina Mougin

    Another Cornucopia Episode | Dual Source Discourse #88

  8. Jul 29

    Private Equity in ProcureTech | Dual Source Discourse Podcast #87

    UNPACKING INVESTMENT DYNAMICS IN PROCURETECH A timely look back at one of procurement technology's biggest market shifts. As private equity continues to reshape the ProcureTech landscape and investment strategies evolve alongside AI, we're bringing back one of our most popular conversations on the forces driving the industry behind the scenes. In this episode, Sarah Scudder and Dr. Elouise Epstein break down the differences between venture capital (VC) and private equity (PE), how each investment model influences leadership, product innovation, growth strategies, and why understanding these dynamics matters for procurement professionals, technology vendors, and investors alike. From leadership turnover and market consolidation to procurement orchestration, risk technology, and the future of software platforms, this conversation provides valuable context for understanding where ProcureTech is headed. Whether you're building, buying, or selling procurement technology, this episode remains remarkably relevant. Topics Discussed: • The key differences between venture capital and private equity investment models • Why more ProcureTech companies are moving from VC funding to PE ownership • How investment strategies influence innovation, product roadmaps, and executive leadership • Market consolidation across procurement, risk management, and supply chain technology • What buyers and vendors should understand about selling into PE-backed organizations • Predictions for the future of ProcureTech investment and AI-driven transformation ✨Highlights✨ 00:05 Sarah shares lessons from Australia before diving into today's discussion on ProcureTech investments. 06:06 Venture capital vs. private equity: what they are and why the distinction matters. 12:00 Why private equity is becoming increasingly active across the ProcureTech market. 22:24 Leadership transitions, executive turnover, and strategic shifts following acquisitions. 29:30 How investment models influence innovation, product strategy, and long-term growth. 34:26 Final predictions, audience questions, and what's next for procurement technology. Please make sure to subscribe so you don’t miss an episode and, as always, submit questions and topics suggestions for future podcasts ⁠⁠here: https://shorturl.at/PbNi6 Follow us on YouTube for episode video recordings: https://rb.gy/t5hbw8 Hosts: Sarah Scudder and Dr. Elouise Epstein Producer: Sabrina Mougin

    Private Equity in ProcureTech | Dual Source Discourse Podcast #87
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Procurement doesn’t have to be boring! Join hosts Dr. Elouise Epstein and Sarah Scudder on Dual Source Discourse, the podcast where they unpack the complexities of supply chain and procurement with a twist of humor and intellect. In each episode, Sarah brings a burning topic to the table, armed with opinions and insights, while Dr. Elouise plays devil's advocate, challenging assumptions and shedding light on alternative perspectives. From the boardroom to the warehouse floor, Dual Source Discourse dives into the big-picture issues shaping the world of supply chain management and procurement. Whether it's discussing the impacts of global trade policies, dissecting the latest technology trends, or exploring strategies for sustainable sourcing, they're here to break it down and make it accessible and entertaining. So, grab your headphones and join them as they navigate the wacky world of supply chain.

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    Dr. Elouise Epstein + Sarah Scudder
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    2024 - 2026
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