Early Miles with Steve Gonser

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Early Miles with Steve Gonser is about how people are built, not just how they perform. Hosted by physical therapist and RunSmart founder Steve Gonser, the show features real conversations about discipline, health, and the early miles that shape who we become. No hype. No shortcuts. Just stories, science, and perspective for anyone trying to stay in it for the long run.

Episodes

  1. 5D AGO

    #11 NeverSecond with Bill Armstrong

    Bill Armstrong, co-founder of Neversecond, joins the show to break down one of the biggest shifts happening in endurance sports today… fueling. For years, endurance athletes were told to take in minimal carbohydrates during training and racing. That approach shaped how runners fueled for decades. But as the sport has evolved, so has the understanding of how much fueling actually impacts performance. In this episode, Steve Gonser sits down with Bill to unpack the full story behind Neversecond and the evolution of modern fueling strategies. From early misconceptions around carbohydrate intake to the breakthrough of multiple transportable carbohydrates, Bill explains how the science has progressed and why athletes are now fueling at levels once thought impossible. The conversation goes beyond theory and into application. They discuss what happens physiologically when you underfuel, how fueling impacts performance late in races, and why consistency and precision matter more than most runners realize. Bill also shares the origin of Neversecond, the gap he saw between research and real-world products, and how the company set out to build a system that athletes could trust and execute on race day. If you’ve ever hit the wall, struggled to maintain pace late in a run, or felt unsure about how to fuel… this episode will give you a clearer framework to work from. Connect with NEVERSECOND: https://instagram.com/never.second/ https://never2.com/ Connect with RunSmart: https://instagram.com/runsmartofficial https://runsmartonline.com

    1h 23m

  2. APR 14

    #10 Pushing the Limit with Ethan Shuley

    We recorded this episode at 5 a.m. to catch Ethan Shuley while he’s in Japan living and training. Before running 2:07 and landing one of the top 10 fastest U.S. marathon times, Ethan’s start in the sport wasn’t what you’d expect. He talks through the early days of struggling to keep up, skipping races, and not enjoying running… and the moments that shifted his mindset. In this conversation, we get into: His early experience with running and what almost pushed him away from the sportThe turning point that changed how he approached trainingWhat his current setup looks like training in JapanHow his perspective on effort, consistency, and competition evolvedThis is a look at what actually shaped one of the fastest marathoners in the U.S. right now. Connect with our founder & host: ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/stevegonserdpt/⁠ ⁠Connect with our guest: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/ethanshuley/ If you’d like to learn more about runsmart. Personalized running, strength, and recovery plans designed by Physical Therapists. Check us out at: ⁠⁠https://runsmartonline.com/⁠⁠ ⁠https://www.facebook.com/runsmartofficial⁠⁠ ⁠https://www.instagram.com/runsmartofficial⁠⁠ ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@runsmartofficial

    1h 35m

  3. APR 12

    #9 11 Second Miss with Elle Orie

    Running a 2:30 marathon while attending medical school is a rare balancing act. In this episode, Steve Gonser sits down with Elle Orie to explore the path from multi-sport athlete in Orchard Park, New York, to Cornell distance runner, Colorado steeplechaser, and emerging elite marathoner. Gabrielle reflects on her late start in competitive running, her development through collegiate track and cross country, and how a strong aerobic base from swimming shaped her endurance progression. The conversation also dives into the realities of pursuing elite-level performance while managing the demands of medical training. Elle discusses waking up at 3 a.m. for runs during clinical rotations, building toward 100-mile weeks, and the emotional swing of missing the Olympic Trials standard by just 11 seconds before breaking through with a 2:30 marathon at the Chevron Houston Marathon. Along the way, she shares lessons on fueling, recovery pacing, staying healthy, and keeping the sport fun even while chasing world-class goals. Connect with our founder & host: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/stevegonserdpt/ ⁠Connect with our guest: https://www.instagram.com/gabrielleorie/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/elle-orie-5444841a9/ If you’d like to learn more about runsmart. Personalized running, strength, and recovery plans designed by Physical Therapists. Check us out at: ⁠https://runsmartonline.com/⁠ https://www.facebook.com/runsmartofficial⁠ https://www.instagram.com/runsmartofficial⁠ https://www.tiktok.com/@runsmartofficial

    1h 21m

  4. MAR 23

    #8 Underfueling with Shannon Wilson MS RDN CDN CDCES CSSD

    In this episode, we sit down with registered sports dietitian Shannon Wilson to break down the most common fueling mistakes runners make—starting with chronic underfueling. Together, they outline practical ways runners can match intake to training load, recognize red flags of low energy availability, and shift away from weight-loss goals during a marathon build to reduce injury risk and protect performance. The conversation also covers simple, repeatable strategies for long-run prep, carb loading, and during-run fueling—plus how to trial gels, candy, and drink mixes to find what works. We close with recovery basics, including post-run timing, sleep-supportive nutrition habits, and a realistic approach to supplements and caffeine for runners who want better consistency without overcomplicating the process. Connect with our founder & host: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/stevegonserdpt/ ⁠ Connect with our guest: https://www.shannonwilsonrd.com/ https://www.instagram.com/sportsdietitianshannon/ If you’d like to learn more about runsmart. Personalized running, strength, and recovery plans designed by Physical Therapists. Check us out at: ⁠https://runsmartonline.com/⁠ ⁠https://www.facebook.com/runsmartofficial⁠ ⁠https://www.instagram.com/runsmartofficial⁠ ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@runsmartofficial

    1h 6m

  5. MAR 10

    #7 Going All In: Joe Whelan

    Joe Whelan’s path to 2:09 was not linear. From breaking his kneecap in college to battling recurring stress fractures, he spent years navigating setbacks, under-recovery, and training imbalances. After stepping away from the sport and later returning through self-coached marathon builds, Whelan steadily rebuilt his engine—learning how fueling, sleep, controlled volume progression, and smarter intensity distribution separated 2:15 fitness from 2:09 performance.In this episode, he breaks down the mindset shift that fueled his breakthrough, the decision to leave full-time work to prioritize recovery, and the tactical execution behind his course-record win at the Austin Marathon. Whelan also reflects on Olympic Trials preparation, pacing discipline, race-day strategy, and his goal of climbing into the top 15 all-time U.S. marathon performances as he builds toward 2028.Connect with our founder & host: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/stevegonserdpt/ ⁠ Connect with our guest: https://www.instagram.com/jpwhelan23/If you’d like to learn more about personalized running, strength, and recovery plans designed by Physical Therapists, check us out at: ⁠https://runsmartonline.com/ https://www.facebook.com/runsmartofficial⁠ https://www.instagram.com/runsmartofficial⁠ https://www.tiktok.com/@runsmartofficial

    1h 8m

  6. FEB 25

    #6 Sleep (And) Traning with Dr. Jeff Durmer MD PhD

    In this conversation, Jeffrey Durmer discusses his journey from athlete to sleep expert, explores the evolution of sleep medicine, the impact of consumer technology on sleep tracking, and the significance of heart rate variability (HRV). He emphasizes the effects of sleep deprivation, cultural attitudes towards sleep, and strategies for optimizing sleep for athletic performance, including the importance of circadian rhythms and food timing. In this conversation, Dr. Jeffrey Durmer discusses the significance of chronotypes in determining sleep patterns, the importance of recovery sleep for athletes, and the impact of mood on sleep quality. He emphasizes the benefits of light therapy for enhancing mood and performance, and outlines best practices for creating a sleep-friendly environment. The discussion also covers the effects of alcohol and diet on sleep and concludes with insights into the future of sleep monitoring and the integration of AI to personalize sleep health. Connect with our founder & host: ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/stevegonserdpt/⁠ ⁠ Connect with our guest: Website: ⁠https://www.happysleep.com/ Instagram: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffreydurmer/ If you’d like to learn more about runsmart. Personalized running, strength, and recovery plans designed by Physical Therapists. Check us out at: ⁠⁠https://runsmartonline.com/⁠⁠ ⁠ ⁠https://www.facebook.com/runsmartofficial⁠⁠ ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/runsmartofficial⁠ https://www.tiktok.com/@runsmartofficial⁠

    1h 34m

  7. FEB 13

    #5 Don't Call It a Comeback: Keira D'Amato

    Keira D'Amato joins Early Miles to unpack one of the most unconventional journeys in American distance running. From five-time Virginia state champion to collegiate All-American at American University, her early trajectory pointed toward elite competition—until injuries, burnout, and an insurance-denied surgery led her to step away from the sport entirely. Nearly a decade later, after marriage, motherhood, and a full professional career, she returned to running with a 90-second effort that would ultimately evolve into an American record in the marathon. In this conversation, she details the mindset shift that fueled her second chapter: embracing failure, prioritizing long-term consistency, rebuilding strength after injury, and redefining success beyond results. She discusses Olympic Trials disappointment, racing strategy, aging as an elite athlete, training adaptations in her 40s, and the value of structured development over chasing quick gains. For runners at any level, this episode reinforces a core principle—progress is built through patience, resilience, and the courage to start again. Don’t Call It a Comeback by Keira D'Amato Official Purchase Link: https://static.macmillan.com/static/smp/dont-call-it-9781250344946 Connect with our founder & host: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/stevegonserdpt/ ⁠ Connect with our guest: Website: https://keiradamato.com/hello/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/keiradamato/ If you’d like to learn more about runsmart. Personalized running, strength, and recovery plans designed by Physical Therapists. Check us out at: ⁠https://runsmartonline.com/⁠ ⁠ https://www.facebook.com/runsmartofficial⁠ ⁠https://www.instagram.com/runsmartofficial ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@runsmartofficial

    1h 35m

  8. JAN 30

    #4 Training for Spring Races

    In this episode, we break down how to structure half or full marathon training so we can build fitness without breaking down. We use the idea of three training “levers” — duration, frequency, and effort — and explain why pulling more than one at the same time is where many runners get hurt. We talk about giving ourselves a long enough training runway, spending the first 50–70% of a plan focused on base building and conversation-pace running, and being careful not to overload our weeks with too much speed work too early. The goal isn’t to crush every workout — it’s to stay consistent, avoid injury, and arrive at race day feeling strong and confident. We also cover smart long-run progression, why big spikes in mileage raise injury risk, and how a simple two-weeks up, one-week down structure helps the body adapt. Along the way, we get into practical topics like adjusting for winter running conditions, practicing race fueling during long runs, improving recovery with carbs plus protein after workouts, and adding efficient strength training to build durability. Whether we’re training for our first marathon or our tenth, this episode is all about making training fit real life, protecting our bodies, and building a sustainable relationship with running for years to come. Connect with our founder & host: https://www.instagram.com/stevegonserdpt/ If you’d like to learn more about runsmart. Personalized running, strength, and recovery plans designed by Physical Therapists. Check us out at: https://runsmartonline.com/ https://www.facebook.com/runsmartofficial https://www.instagram.com/runsmartofficial https://www.tiktok.com/@runsmartofficial

    47 min

  9. JAN 10

    #3 ER to WR: Anne Flower

    Anne shares her journey from a childhood filled with outdoor adventures in Cincinnati to becoming a record-breaking ultramarathon runner. She discusses her experiences in various races, including the Leadville 100 and Tunnel Hill, and how her background as an ER physician influences her approach to running and training. Anne emphasizes the importance of balancing her professional life with her passion for the outdoors and running, and her commitment to fostering a love of nature in her family. With aspirations for future races and a focus on her nonprofit work, Anne's story is one of resilience, adventure, and the joy of running.

    1h 7m

  10. JAN 1

    #2 Ohio to Olympic Trials: Felicia Pasadyn

    Felicia Pasadyn is a 2:35 marathoner, former Olympic Trials swimmer, and current NYU medical student who returned to elite-level running by doing almost everything differently than the standard marathon playbook. In this conversation, Felicia talks about growing up in Brunswick, Ohio, competing at Harvard and Ohio State, and how her background in swimming shaped her approach to training, strength work, and injury management. We get into her unconventional buildup to the New York City Marathon, including managing an Achilles issue days before the race and what it was like lining up and racing in the pro field. Felicia also reflects on finishing NYC, the disbelief that followed, and the online debate around her training methods. We talk fueling, community support, balancing medical school with high-level training, her decision to pursue radiology, and how she sees AI playing a role in future patient care. A wide-ranging conversation about durability, adaptation, and building a sustainable path in both running and life.

    1h 20m
  11. #1 All About Me?

    JAN 1

    #1 All About Me?

    Steve Gonser shares his journey from a reluctant runner to a passionate marathoner, discussing his experiences, challenges, and the evolution of his training methods. He highlights the importance of context in research, the role of strength training, and his personal health discoveries. The episode sets the stage for future conversations with athletes and experts in the running community.

    54 min

  12. SEASON 1 TRAILER

    About This Podcast

    Most conversations about running focus on performance. Times. Results. The highlight reel. Early Miles is a long-form conversation podcast about how runners are shaped over time, not just how they perform on race day. Some episodes center on personal stories. Others dive deep with experts. And some are driven by questions from the running community. Hosted by physical therapist and runner Steve Gonser, the show explores the early decisions, struggles, failures, pivots, and quiet habits that compound when no one is watching. From everyday runners to coaches, clinicians, and researchers, Early Miles sits at the intersection of storytelling, real conversation, and science-backed thinking you can actually apply. If running is part of who you are, you’re in the right place.

    1 min

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Early Miles with Steve Gonser is about how people are built, not just how they perform. Hosted by physical therapist and RunSmart founder Steve Gonser, the show features real conversations about discipline, health, and the early miles that shape who we become. No hype. No shortcuts. Just stories, science, and perspective for anyone trying to stay in it for the long run.

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