Healers Get Vulnerable

Annie Schuessler

Healers are often drawn to this work because of their own histories and emotional pain. the only way to thrive and avoid burnout while we help others heal is to do our own healing. On this podcast, Annie Schuessler-Zam talks to all kinds of healers as they share vulnerable stories about pain, healing and growth.

  1. 1d ago

    Bigger Healing Was Possible After Her Parents Died With Sarah Buino

    If you're a therapist or a healer, is it OK to talk about going into residential treatment yourself? Is it OK to need help? My guest today says hell yes it's OK. She's not just a therapist. She's a leader in the therapist community. After she spoke out about going into residential treatment in 2020, many therapists told her they finally sought the help they needed too. In today's conversation she goes deep about her own healing. Sarah Buino is known for integrating personal healing, therapist leadership development, and systems-level thinking. Her work helps therapists and group practice leaders understand how trauma, power, culture, and business structures interact and how to grow the relational and psychological capacity needed to lead ethically in a rapidly changing mental health landscape. She's also the host of the podcast Conversations With A Wounded Healer. Here's some of what we talked about: Losing both of her parents in the same year after not having a good relationship with either Working with mediums and evolving her relationships with them after their deaths Healing from childhood sexual abuse Finding NARM The NeuroAffective Relational Model Experiencing suicidal ideation and getting into residential treatment How her marriage has supported her over the last 19 years and navigating challenges together Engaging in ongoing healing work and fighting the stigma of healers doing their own healing Show notes at https://anniezam.com/podcast/264

    Bigger Healing Was Possible After Her Parents Died With Sarah Buino
  2. Jun 29

    Getting Sober Around Money With Cody Cook-Parrott

    When Cody Cook-Parrott showed up for this conversation, I assumed they were about to talk about leaving social media. I had just finished their book The Practice Of Attention, Cultivating Presence In A Distracted World. I had been through my own leaving social media journey, and found their voice around this supportive and affirming. But I'm always open to what area of healing my guest is wanting to talk about, and Cody showed up ready to talk vulnerably about what is up for them right now: money. You're going to hear a lot of wisdom around money healing, because Cody's been working in depth around money for a long time, and you're also going to hear their vulnerability and struggle, because as of the recording, according to their own definitions, they were 2 days solvent after financial relapse. Cody Cook-Parrott is a writer, artist, and movement practitioner who builds simple structures that help artists make work. Their focus is attention, creative ecosystems, and research—so your practice becomes a scaffolding to grow steadily—online and off. Shout out to my good friend Podge Thomas (https://www.podgethomas.com/) for introducing me to Cody's work. Here's some of what we talked about: After being in and out of financial solvency, Cody is 2 days solvent today as of the recording Engaging in a 12-steps program around finances The difference between solvency and being debt free Finding their "enough number" Guardrails and money healing Spiritual solutions to money Show notes at https://anniezam.com/podcast/260

    Getting Sober Around Money With Cody Cook-Parrott
  3. May 1

    The Power Of Brainspotting With Dr. Mercedes Samudio

    Every time I've talked to Mercedes Samudio, something has happened to my nervous system that was just total trust. I feel her integrity and vulnerability and I walk away feeling inspired. After this particular interview, I felt like everyone I know should hire her and get trauma healing from her. I also feel grateful for this interview because I am a Brainspotting practitioner and I believe so deeply in the power of Brainspotting. Mercedes explains it in a way that will help you really get why it is so effective. And she talks about how receiving Brainspotting changed her healing trajectory. Dr. Mercedes Samudio (she/her), DSW, LCSW, AfroNerd, author, and mental health advocate, empowers Black families through trauma-informed care, pop culture scholarship, and innovative healing frameworks. Founder of Shame Proof Parenting®, she integrates geek culture and social justice into culturally responsive practices, mentorship, and clinician supervision, championing mental wellness, resilience, and representation. Here's some of what we talked about: Her wakeup around her own unhealed trauma in 2020 Using EMDR and also identifying its limits Why the process of Brainspotting can hold marginalized identities and bodies particularly well (in the hands of the right practitioner) Discovering Brainspotting and then diving all the way in How Brainspotting works Convincing her therapist to learn Brainspotting Recovering young parts of herself in her trauma healing journey Integrating new boundaries into her work to prevent burnout Show notes at https://anniezam.com/podcast/258

    The Power Of Brainspotting With Dr. Mercedes Samudio
  4. Apr 1

    Poetry As Healing And NEVER Getting Off The Growth Train With Emily G Barrett

    New Workshop! Feel More Regulated In Your Relationship For folks who sometimes feel crazy or dysregulated in our relationships. April 17th, 2026 —> Get on the waitlist.  Emily got into therapy at age 27 when everything on the outside was looking good, but she was feeling miserable. Her therapist welcomed her big emotions and tears, and a new path opened up. She realized that she wanted to be a therapist herself. She also wrote her first poem, and tapped into a way of healing that she still engages in decades later. In our conversation today, you'll hear about how she used poetry and other things to heal depression, misery and other constraints. Emily G Barrett is a queer radical mystic poet and psychologist tossing seeds in the Long Dark*. She is in love with grief, healing and embodiment and wants to live in the culture created through them. For maintenance, her life requires deep crying and dancing at least every few days, often at the same time. I know her as an Internal Family Systems therapist colleague. I love the way she thinks and expresses herself, so wasn't surprised to find out she's a poet. We first met when we were both in The Free Joy Experience hosted by Thea Monyee and Ebony Janice Moore. *thank you, Francis Weller for this language Here's some of what we talked about: Getting into therapy at age 27 and a whole new path opening up (including a career as a therapist!) Working through a crisis of her sister's and the line between codependency and loving support Writing that first poem that described depression "some days are like ice" and bringing it to therapy Writing a manifesto / poem for living her life Starting SSRIs and experiencing profound difference in the way she feels about time Engaging in Authentic Movement How her poems describe and deepen her dreams Show notes at https://anniezam.com/podcast/257

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Healers are often drawn to this work because of their own histories and emotional pain. the only way to thrive and avoid burnout while we help others heal is to do our own healing. On this podcast, Annie Schuessler-Zam talks to all kinds of healers as they share vulnerable stories about pain, healing and growth.

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