Go First With Jaime Taets

Jaime Taets, Owner, President & Founder

Hosted by CEO, leadership expert, keynote speaker and author Jaime Taets, Go First explores what happens when successful people stop waiting for certainty and start moving before they feel ready. Through honest conversations with CEOs, founders, entrepreneurs, athletes and high-performing leaders — along with Jaime's solo insights — the show goes behind the highlight reel to explore the decisions, fears, failures and transformations that shape successful people. Episodes explore leadership development, personal growth, resilience, burnout, decision-making, vulnerability, organizational change, energy, purpose and what it takes to create meaningful change in your work and life. Because clarity doesn't always come before action. Sometimes you have to Go First. If you're navigating a career transition, leading through change, questioning what success means now, facing a difficult decision or simply know there's another version of yourself waiting on the other side of action, this podcast is for you. Go First with Jaime Taets gives leaders practical insights, honest stories and the courage to take the next meaningful step. Why leaders keep hitting play:1. It names the fear you're not supposed to admit. Waiting to feel ready is often just waiting. If you're a leader stuck at the edge of a decision, hoping for more certainty before you move, this show gives you permission and a push to go first anyway. 2. It's tactical, not just inspirational. Every episode delivers frameworks you can use immediately - how to separate the fear you should listen to from the fear that's just noise, how to make a decision without full information, how to build the kind of energy management that makes moving first sustainable instead of reckless. 3. The guests have actually gone first. This isn't theory from consultants who've never made the call under pressure. Listeners have heard from a crisis-communications founder who rebuilt her career and her family through her son's cancer diagnosis, a Super Bowl champion who had to find purpose beyond the game that defined him, and CEOs who scaled companies while unlearning the need to have all the answers before they acted. 4. It reframes hesitation as a leadership signal, not a character flaw. Instead of glorifying certainty, Go First treats the instinct to wait as data, a signal about what you're actually afraid of losing, and what needs to change so you can move anyway. 5. It's built for the leader standing at the edge of their next decision. Whetheryou're weighing a career pivot, a business bet, a hard conversation, or a change you already know you need to make, this show offers a way to move, not just a reason to keep thinking about it. Who should listen to Go First: Executives, founders, entrepreneurs, coaches, and high-performing professionals who know what they should do next but are stuck waiting to feel ready. If you Google "how to make decisions without all the information," "overcoming fear of failure as a leader," "how to take action despite uncertainty," or "podcast for leaders who feel stuck," this is the show built for exactly that search.What you'll actually learn: How to make high-stakes decisions before you have full information. How to tell the difference between the fear that protects you and the fear that stalls you. Practical energy management for leaders operating without a guarantee. Why the leaders who move first aren't fearless, they've just built a different relationship with fear. How clarity is a result of action, not a precondition for it.www.jaimetaets.com

  1. 1d ago

    If You're Still Alive, You Have Everything You Need: Andy Nelson on Courage, Gratitude & Going First Through Hard Things

    What happens when life delivers an unplanned unfolding you never saw coming? Andy Nelson was diagnosed with stage IV cancer ten years ago. The five-year survival rate for his type of cancer was six percent. He is still here. And he says the experience gave him clarity he could not have found any other way. Andy Nelson is a dad, a husband, a leadership coach, and a stage IV cancer survivor. He joins Jaime Taets for a conversation about what it actually takes to keep moving when you do not know what tomorrow holds. They talk about the moment he heard the diagnosis, how he and his wife decided to dance with cancer instead of fighting it, and why acknowledging the hard stuff is the first step toward finding any gift in it. This conversation is about courage, fear, and the choice to go first even when you are scared. Andy shares why courage means having an open heart and shaking knees, how to turn worry into concern so you can actually do something about it, and why sitting in the suck with someone is sometimes the most powerful thing you can do. He also opens up about the difference between resume virtues and eulogy virtues, and how that reframe changed the way he defines success. If you have ever felt stuck, scared, or unsure of what comes next, this episode is for you. Andy's wisdom will remind you that if you are still alive, you have everything you need. Timestamped Chapters 0:00 Introduction to Andy Nelson 2:11 The seeds planted long before cancer 4:08 When stage IV cancer becomes an unplanned unfolding 6:54 Dancing with cancer instead of fighting it 9:33 If you're still alive, you have everything you need 12:24 Turning worry into concern 15:07 Sitting in the suck with someone you love 18:02 Where courage comes from 23:22 Resume virtues vs. eulogy virtues 27:06 Anchoring in body, heart, and mind 30:09 The power of getting your thoughts in writing 33:21 Survivor's Gratitude and the gifts of cancer Guest Bio Andy Nelson is a leadership coach, executive coach, and stage IV cancer survivor. He is the author of Survivor's Gratitude: The Gifts of Cancer, Clarity, and Connection, releasing in October 2026. Andy spent years as a Fortune 5 leader before launching Nelson Executive Coaching, where he works with executives and teams to develop leaders and inspire growth. He is also a keynote speaker and musician. Andy lives in the Greater Minneapolis-St. Paul area with his wife Michael and their three daughters. Quotes from the Episode "If you're still alive, you have everything you need." "Courage is core coronary. Open heart, shaking knees." "There are resume virtues and there are eulogy virtues." Leadership Insights Q: How can leaders build courage to keep moving through uncertainty? A: Courage is not the absence of fear. It is the willingness to act even when you are scared. Andy Nelson describes courage as having an open heart and shaking knees. It comes from acknowledging that you are sitting in the suck and choosing to do the hard thing anyway. For leaders facing uncertainty, courage starts with checking in with yourself, naming what you are afraid of, and then asking what one thing you can do today to move forward. Q: What is the difference between resume virtues and eulogy virtues in leadership? A: Resume virtues are the achievements, awards, and outcomes you collect over your career. Eulogy virtues are the qualities people will remember you for when you are gone, like kindness, integrity, and the impact you had on others. Andy Nelson learned this distinction during a silent retreat and it reshaped how he defines success. Leaders who focus only on resume virtues risk missing the deeper legacy they could leave through how they show up for people every day. Resources Connect with Andy Nelson on LinkedInLearn more about Nelson Executive CoachingSubscribe to Andy Nelson on YouTubeLearn more about Andy's book, Survivor's GratitudeLearn more about Jaime Taets and Keystone Group InternationalExplore Jaime's Women's Executive Retreats.Explore Keystone Group International and its leadership, culture, and organizational growth work.Follow Jaime on Instagram, LinkedIn, and FacebookIf this conversation gave you a new perspective on courage, gratitude, or what it means to keep going when life gets hard, share it with someone who needs to hear it. Subscribe to Go First with Jaime Taets for more conversations about leadership, growth, and taking that next step forward. Go First is the show where we talk about what it takes to move forward: first, fast, and with purpose. Everything you want is on the other side of the next unknown step. Let's Go First together. Jaime Taets

    If You're Still Alive, You Have Everything You Need: Andy Nelson on Courage, Gratitude & Going First Through Hard Things
  2. Oct 13

    The World Needs Your Wisdom: Jaime Taets on Turning Experience Into Impact & Going First

    What do you do with everything you have lived through? The wins. The failures. The years that knocked you sideways. Most of us file it away and treat it like it is private. But what if the thing you learned the hard way is exactly what someone else needs to hear? In this solo episode, Jaime Taets explores the difference between knowledge and wisdom. She shares why life experience alone does not create wisdom and why so many high achievers are sitting on wisdom they have never actually used. Knowledge is what you know. Wisdom is what you know that is usable by someone else. And the gap between the two is where most of us live. Jaime opens up about a recent retreat where she felt like an imposter in a room full of people she assumed were wiser than her. What she realized is that wisdom does not have an age. You do not have to be a certain age to become wise. You just have to have lived through some life experience and done the inner work to understand how it changed you and how you can distill it for others. This conversation is a challenge to stop collecting experience and start sharing it. Jaime talks about the statistic that when an experienced employee leaves a role, 42 percent of the skills and experience required to do that job well were in their head and never written down. Fortune 500 companies lose about 31 billion dollars a year because of this critical knowledge that never gets shared. But this is not just about business. It is a metaphor for your own life. You are walking around every single day with most of what you have learned locked inside of you, never transferred to someone else. If you have ever felt like you have more to give but you are not sure how to share it, this episode is for you. The next level is not about more climbing. It is about learning to distill your experience for others. The world needs more of us to share our wisdom. Timestamped Chapters 0:00 Welcome to this solo episode on wisdom 1:30 Why most of us are living out of order 2:13 The difference between knowledge and wisdom 4:04 What psychologists say about wisdom 5:21 The cost of unshared knowledge in companies 7:36 Wisdom does not have an age 9:47 What you carry back down the mountain 10:28 What have you lived through that you have not metabolized? 11:32 Go have the conversation Quotes from the Episode "Knowledge is what you know. Wisdom is what you know that is usable by someone else." "Most of us are way more generous with our opinions than we are with our wisdom." "Wisdom doesn't have an age. You just have to have lived through some life experience and done the inner work to distill it for others." Leadership Insights Q: What is the difference between knowledge and wisdom? A: Knowledge is what you know and what you have learned. Wisdom is what you know that is usable by someone else. Knowledge does not become wisdom until you do the inner work to learn from it and put it into a form that someone else can learn from. Life experience alone does not create wisdom. What predicts wisdom is what you do with the experience after you have it. Whether you reflect on it, sit with it long enough to understand what it taught you, and then share it in a way that helps someone else. Q: Why is it important for leaders to share their wisdom? A: When leaders keep their knowledge and experience to themselves, it dies with them. Researchers estimate that when an experienced employee leaves a role, 42 percent of the skills and experience required to do that job well were in their head and never written down. Fortune 500 companies lose about 31 billion dollars a year because of this critical knowledge that never gets shared. But beyond the business case, sharing your wisdom is how you create impact and leave a legacy. The world needs more people to share what they have learned the hard way. Resources Learn more about Jaime Taets and her leadership work.Explore Jaime's Women's Executive Retreats.Explore Keystone Group International and its leadership, culture, and organizational growth work.Follow Jaime on Instagram, LinkedIn, and FacebookIf this episode moved something in you, share it with someone who needs permission to share their own wisdom. Subscribe to Go First with Jaime Taets for more conversations about leadership, growth, and taking that next step forward. Go First is the show where we talk about what it takes to move forward: first, fast, and with purpose. Everything you want is on the other side of the next unknown step. Let's Go First together. Jaime Taets

  3. Oct 6

    The Currency of Kindness: Kim Snow on Leading Franklin Center, Neurodiversity & the Courage to Go First

    What happens when you leave a successful corporate career to lead a nonprofit you know as a parent, but not as a leader? Kim Snow knows this journey intimately. She spent years at Cargill leading strategy, marketing, and client services. Then she stepped into the role of Executive Director at Franklin Center, a school and adult program for individuals with neurodiversity. She was not an educator. She did not have a background in behavioral health. But she had curiosity, business experience, and a deep passion for the mission. Kim joins Jaime Taets for a conversation about what it really takes to go first into something new and uncertain. She shares how she learned to be vulnerable about what she did not know, why industries are learnable but leadership is about people, and how raising a son with neurodiversity changed the way she sees the world. She also talks about the difference between being a peer leader and being the person who makes the final call, and why that shift required her to trust herself in a completely new way. This conversation is about courage, kindness, and the power of curiosity. Kim opens up about the loneliness that comes with top leadership and why finding the right rooms and the right people is essential. She shares the advice she would give anyone feeling called to do something different, and why being brave enough to listen to that inner voice is the first step. If you have ever felt called to do something new but worried you are not qualified, this episode is for you. Kim's story will remind you that the path is not linear, the work is hard, and the reward is worth it. Timestamped Chapters 0:00 Introduction to Kim Snow 1:11 The windy road to Franklin Center 4:12 Leaving corporate for nonprofit leadership 6:16 Industries are learnable, people are not 8:40 The parent experience in the room 11:37 Vulnerability and admitting what you do not know 14:53 When leadership became real 17:52 The higher you climb, the cloudier it gets 19:46 The loneliness of top leadership 21:38 Changing the rooms you are in 23:15 Redefining success: from contribution to coaching 25:52 To be vulnerable is not a weakness 29:25 Be brave enough to listen to the voice 33:11 Finding levity in the heavy 36:40 Bonus round: songs, books, and billboards Guest Bio Kim Snow is the Executive Director of Franklin Center, a nonprofit organization providing education and adult programs for individuals with neurodiversity. She spent the bulk of her career at Cargill, leading strategy and marketing across multiple businesses and later leading a data analytics team serving food companies nationwide. Kim holds an MBA from the Carlson School of Management at the University of Minnesota. She is a passionate advocate for inclusion, kindness, and creating opportunities for individuals with neurodiversity to thrive. Kim lives on a farm with her family. Quotes from the Episode "Industries are learnable. People are not." "To be vulnerable is not a weakness." "Be brave enough to listen to the voice in your head. Trust it, believe in yourself, and then take a step." Leadership Insights Q: What is the difference between peer leadership and top leadership? A: Peer leadership means you are part of a team making decisions together. Top leadership means the final decision rests on your shoulders. Kim Snow experienced this shift when she moved from a corporate role where she contributed to decisions to becoming Executive Director, where she is the decision. This requires a different level of trust in yourself, the willingness to admit when you are wrong, and the courage to move forward even when the path is unclear. Q: Why is vulnerability important for leaders? A: Vulnerability is not a weakness. It is a strength that builds trust and connection. When leaders admit what they do not know, it gives others permission to do the same. Kim Snow learned this when she stepped into a role where she had no expertise in education or behavioral health. By being honest about her gaps, she created a culture where her team felt safe to share their knowledge, try new things, and learn from mistakes without fear. Resources Connect with Kim Snow on LinkedInLearn more about Franklin CenterFollow Franklin Center on LinkedInExplore Jaime's Women's Executive RetreatsExplore Keystone Group International and its leadership, culture, and organizational growth workFollow Jaime on Instagram, LinkedIn, and FacebookIf this conversation gave you a new perspective on leadership, vulnerability, or what it means to go first into something new, share it with someone who needs to hear it. Subscribe to Go First with Jaime Taets for more conversations about leadership, growth, and taking that next step forward. Go First is the show where we talk about what it takes to move forward: first, fast, and with purpose. Everything you want is on the other side of the next unknown step. Let's Go First together. Jaime Taets

    The Currency of Kindness: Kim Snow on Leading Franklin Center, Neurodiversity & the Courage to Go First
  4. Sep 29

    Your Body Knows Before Your Brain Does: Jaime Taets on The Fizzies, Intuition & Following What Feels Alive

    You know that feeling when something just clicks? When your body tells you yes before your brain can explain why? Jaime Taets calls it the fizzies, and she believes it is the most honest data you will ever have about whether you are on the right path. In this solo episode, Jaime explains what the fizzies are and why she started paying attention to them over a decade ago. It is that tingly sensation, the hair standing up on your arms, the moment when you feel fully alive and present. It shows up in conversations, in nature, in meditation, and in moments when you are not performing or worrying about how you look. It is your body's way of saying you need more of this. Most high achievers have trained themselves to ignore that feeling. We focus on what is hard, what is urgent, what needs fixing. We move on from good moments without noticing them. But Jaime challenges that pattern. She shares how an energy journal can help you track where your energy comes from and what it is trying to tell you. The patterns you see will be more accurate than any five-year plan you have ever written. If you have been waiting for a sign or looking for clarity, this episode is your invitation to start paying attention. The only way to go first is to first go. And sometimes going first just looks like trusting the fizzies long enough to follow them. Timestamped Chapters 0:00 Welcome to the podcast 1:30 What are the fizzies? 2:25 How Jaime started noticing this feeling 4:45 Why high achievers ignore what feels good 6:58 The fizzies as your soul's signal 8:45 Using an energy journal to track your energy 10:41 Going first by following the fizzies Quotes from the Episode "The fizzies are this feeling in my body. It tells me I'm on the right track." "Most of us get really good at ignoring that feeling. We're trained to pay attention to the opposite, to the things that are hard." "The only way you go first is to first go. Something has to change. And you have the full power of that." Leadership Insights Q: What are the fizzies and why do they matter for leaders? A: The fizzies are a physical sensation that Jaime Taets describes as a tingly feeling in the body, sometimes with hair standing up on your arms or neck. They show up when you are fully present, aligned, and doing something that resonates with who you are becoming. For leaders, the fizzies matter because they are data. They point toward what energizes you, what you should do more of, and what you should release. Ignoring them means ignoring your most honest internal guidance system. Q: How can leaders use an energy journal to make better decisions? A: An energy journal is a simple practice where you write down the moments in your day when you feel alive, energized, or fizzy. After a couple of weeks, you will start to see patterns. Those patterns reveal where your energy comes from and what drains it. This information is often more accurate than any goal or vision you have set because it comes from your body, not your brain. It can help you decide where to spend more time, where to pull back, and what changes you need to make to lead from a healthier, more aligned place. Resources Learn more about Jaime Taets and Keystone Group International: https://jaimetaets.com/ Explore Jaime's Executive Retreats: https://jaimetaets.com/executive-retreats/Follow Jaime on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jaime_taets Follow Jaime on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamietaets Follow Jaime on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jaimeladam If this episode resonated with you, share it with someone who needs permission to trust their own intuition and follow what makes them feel alive. Subscribe to Go First with Jaime Taets for more conversations about leadership, growth, and taking that next step forward. Go First is the show where we talk about what it takes to move forward: first, fast, and with purpose. Everything you want is on the other side of the next unknown step. Let's Go First together. Jaime Taets

  5. Sep 22

    Your Title Is Not Your Identity: Chris Heim on People-First Leadership, CEO Identity & Reclaiming Who You Are

    What happens when you've achieved everything you set out to accomplish, but you wake up one day and realize you've lost yourself in the process? Chris Heim, a three-time CEO and founder of Heim Leadership, joins Jaime to talk about reclaiming your identity when the title no longer defines you. Chris openly shares his journey from accidental CEO to someone who now understands that leadership isn't just about business outcomes. It's about creating an environment where motivated people can thrive. He talks about the trap of tying your identity to your role, the difference between chasing success and pursuing purpose, and the intentional work it takes to become a people-first leader. This conversation is for any leader who has ever felt like they're grinding for the wrong reasons, struggling with imposter syndrome, or wondering who they are outside of their job title. Chris offers practical wisdom on unlearning old patterns, managing your energy, and building a bridge to whatever comes next. The message is clear: you've already succeeded. Now it's time to figure out who you want to be. Timestamped Chapters  0:00 Introduction to Chris Heim 3:15 The Accidental CEO Journey 6:30 Discovering Your Leadership Identity 10:00 Imposter Syndrome as a Strength 13:45 Reclaiming Identity After the Title 17:20 Chase vs. Pursuit 21:00 Unlearning: Motivation and Rumination 25:30 Creating an Environment for People to Thrive 28:15 The Bridge to the Future 31:45 Advice for Leaders Who Feel Stuck 34:00 Smile: The Billboard Reminder Guest Bio Chris Heim is a three-time CEO and the founder of Heim Leadership, a consulting firm dedicated to helping organizations build people-first cultures and healthy, stable companies. With a career spanning technology and business, Chris has led global teams and is passionate about the intersection of leadership and human psychology. He is a student of culture and believes that figuring out the human side of business creates a distinct advantage on the business side. Chris is also an endurance athlete who applies lessons from training to his leadership philosophy. Quotes from the Episode "I associated so much of my identity with being a CEO that I kind of forgot who I was." "I have eliminated the word chase from my life and I only have pursuit." "People bring their own motivation to whatever they're doing. My job is to create an environment where motivated people can be successful." Leadership Insights Q: What does it mean to be a people-first leader? A: Being a people-first leader means recognizing that your most important responsibility is creating an environment where people can thrive. It's not about motivating others, because people bring their own motivation. It's about fostering a culture that supports them, understanding the psychology of stress, and showing up as a source of calm and positivity. Business success follows when you take the human side of leadership as seriously as any financial outcome you're responsible for. Q: Why do leaders lose their identity and how can they reclaim it? A: Leaders often lose their identity when they associate who they are entirely with their role or title. The demands of leadership can consume your sense of self, making it feel like you are the job. To reclaim your identity, you need to step back and remember that you are so much more than your title. You are a person, a parent, a spouse, a friend. You get to keep all the experiences and clarity you've gained, even when you let go of the role. The title is a role you serve, but it does not define who you are. Resources Connect with Chris Heim on LinkedInLearn more about Heim LeadershipLearn more about Jaime Taets and Keystone Group InternationalExplore Jaime's Executive RetreatsFollow Jaime on Instagram, LinkedIn, and FacebookIf you have ever felt the weight of believing your title is who you are, share this with a leader who needs to be reminded that they've already succeeded and there is so much more to who they are. Subscribe to Go First with Jaime Taets for more conversations about leadership, growth, and taking that next step forward. Go First is the show where we talk about what it takes to move forward: first, fast, and with purpose. Everything you want is on the other side of the next unknown step. Let's Go First together. Jaime Taets

    Your Title Is Not Your Identity: Chris Heim on People-First Leadership, CEO Identity & Reclaiming Who You Are
  6. Sep 15

    Stop Seeking External Validation to Feel Worthy: A Solo Episode on the Addiction to Validation

    Why do so many leaders feel empty despite achieving everything they set out to accomplish? The answer might surprise you. It's not about insecurity or weakness. It's about validation, and it's addictive. In this solo episode, Jaime Taets pulls back the curtain on a theme she's seen emerging in leaders everywhere: the relentless need for external approval. She shares why validation isn't about being insecure, how early career success trains us to seek it, and why the addiction cycle keeps leaders chasing applause that never lasts. If you've ever felt like you're performing for an audience that's never satisfied, or you're staying in rooms you've outgrown because they still make you feel needed, this episode is for you. It's a call to examine your motivations, find worth in the quiet, unseen work, and ground your value in who you are, not what you achieve. Timestamped Chapters 0:00 Welcome and why these solo episodes exist 1:15 The theme emerging from leaders 2:11 Why validation isn't about insecurity 3:44 How success trains us to seek approval 4:57 The addiction cycle of validation 6:15 When validation becomes a dependency 7:30 The ego trap of senior leadership 8:45 Where are you seeking validation? 9:47 The quieter work no one applauds 10:30 Examining your motivations 11:12 Internal vs. external validation 11:57 Inspiring others by going first 12:31 Closing reflection Quotes from the Episode "Validation is addictive." "Yesterday's applause doesn't last today. Today you need more of it." "If you can remain grounded in who you are when the world is no longer validating you, that's the real test of leadership." Leadership Insights Q: Why is validation addictive for leaders? A: Validation triggers the same reward pathways in the brain as other addictive behaviors. Early career success trains leaders to seek approval through performance, problem-solving, and visible achievements. Over time, that need for external validation becomes a dependency. It requires more frequent and bigger wins to feel the same sense of worth. The applause that once felt satisfying no longer lasts, and leaders find themselves chasing the next achievement just to feel seen. Q: How can leaders break the cycle of seeking validation? A: Breaking the cycle starts with examining your motivations. Ask yourself: Am I taking this on because it's the right thing to do, or because I want to be seen? Are you staying in rooms you've outgrown because they still make you feel needed? The shift happens when you begin to find worth in the quiet, unseen work and ground your value in who you are, not what you achieve. The real test of leadership is whether you can remain grounded when the world stops applauding. Resources Learn more about Jaime Taets and Keystone Group InternationalExplore Jaime's Executive RetreatsFollow Jaime on Instagram, LinkedIn, and FacebookIf this episode challenged how you think about validation and leadership, share it with another leader who needs to hear it. Subscribe to Go First with Jaime Taets for more conversations about leadership, growth, and taking that next step forward. Go First is the show where we talk about what it takes to move forward: first, fast, and with purpose. Everything you want is on the other side of the next unknown step. Let's Go First together. Jaime Taets

    Stop Seeking External Validation to Feel Worthy: A Solo Episode on the Addiction to Validation
  7. Sep 8

    Redefining Success After the Title Is Gone: Dr. Linda Schubring on Identity, Control & Healing

    What happens when the mountain you finally climbed disappears beneath your feet? Dr. Linda Schubring faced that exact moment and learned that losing a job doesn't mean losing your purpose. Dr. Linda Schubring joins Jaime Taets for an honest conversation about leadership, identity, resilience, and what it really takes to heal. Linda shares her journey from aspiring college president to reaching a leadership role at 29, losing that position, rebuilding her identity, becoming a mother and business owner, and navigating a breast cancer diagnosis. Along the way, she discovered that our hardest experiences can become sources of wisdom, connection, and contribution. Together, Linda and Jaime explore why leaders need to manage their hunger for control and importance, how to separate identity from work, and what it really means to heal. If you're navigating transition, redefining success, or leading through uncertainty, this conversation will give you a different way to think about what's next. Timestamped Chapters 0:00 Introduction to Dr. Linda Schubring 2:18 Linda's leadership journey: the mountaintop 4:04 You can have more than one mountain 6:15 Three lessons from reaching the top 11:42 When success doesn't protect you from setbacks 14:11 Separating your identity from your work 17:00 Turning difficult experiences into contribution 21:59 Learning to heal through adversity 28:23 What Linda had to unlearn 29:24 Redefining success 31:24 Managing your hungers for control and importance 34:20 Managing your energy as a leader 38:40 Hope, resilience, and leadership 42:46 Linda's book and leadership influences 44:10 Reflect, act, reflect Guest Bio Dr. Linda Schubring is a leadership coach, author, speaker, and co-founder of Leadership Vision Consulting. She helps leaders, teams, and organizations become healthier, more engaged, and better equipped to navigate uncertainty and change. She is also the national bestselling author of Unfolded: Lessons in Transformation from an Origami Crane. Quotes from the Episode "You can lose your job, but that doesn't mean you lose your purpose." "Healing is different from moving on." "Reflect, act, reflect, act, reflect, act." Leadership Insights Q: What does it mean to manage your hunger as a leader? A: Managing your hunger means recognizing and regulating the internal drives that can influence how you lead. Drawing from the adaptive leadership work of Ron Heifetz and Marty Linsky, Dr. Linda Schubring explains that leaders need to manage their hunger for control and their hunger for importance rather than allowing those desires to control their behavior. When leaders don't manage what drives them, they can become rigid, defensive, or disconnected from the people they lead. Q: Why is separating identity from work important for leaders? A: Separating identity from work allows leaders to recognize that losing a role, title, or position does not mean losing their purpose or worth. Linda's experience of having her leadership position eliminated forced her to reconsider who she was beyond her career. That separation ultimately opened the door to new forms of leadership, family, business, and contribution. When you know who you are beyond your title, you lead with more freedom and less fear. Resources Connect with Dr. Linda Schubring on LinkedIn Follow Leadership Vision on InstagramLeadership on the Line: Staying Alive Through the Dangers of Leading — Ron Heifetz & Marty LinskyUnfolded: Lessons in Transformation from an Origami Crane — Dr. Linda SchubringLeadership Vision ConsultingLearn more about Jaime Taets and Keystone Group InternationalExplore Jaime's Executive RetreatsFollow Jaime on Instagram, LinkedIn, and FacebookIf this conversation gave you a new perspective on leadership, identity, or navigating a difficult season, share it with another leader who may need to hear it. Subscribe to Go First with Jaime Taets for more conversations about leadership, growth, and taking that next step forward. Go First is the show where we talk about what it takes to move forward first, fast, and with purpose. Everything you want is on the other side of the next unknown step. Let's Go First together. Jaime Taets

    Redefining Success After the Title Is Gone: Dr. Linda Schubring on Identity, Control & Healing
  8. Aug 18

    Leadership Burnout: The Real Cause and What Leaders Get Wrong with Jaime Taets

    What happens when you're a high-performing leader who loves the work, but you're exhausted in a way that a vacation won't fix? Jaime Taets gets honest about her own journey with burnout and what she's learned about the weight of responsibility. Jaime shares why burnout is one of the most overused words in leadership, and why it's often misunderstood. It's not about hating your job. It's about caring so much that you take on everything: every problem, every outcome, everyone's emotions. That sense of responsibility is what makes you successful, but it can also quietly become the thing that drains you. She explores the difference between rest and recovery, why letting go of control is harder than it sounds, and how a thousand small shifts can create more space than one dramatic change. She also challenges leaders to ask themselves one question: What are you carrying today that might not be yours to carry? If you've ever said "I'm busy" when asked how you are, or felt like you can't set anything down, this episode is for you. Timestamped Chapters 0:00 Welcome to Go First 1:30 Why burnout is overused and misunderstood 2:15 Working hard vs. carrying too much responsibility 3:45 The fatigue of believing nothing can be set down 5:30 Why success increases the weight you carry 6:45 Letting go of what used to be yours 8:00 Rest vs. recovery 9:15 What are you carrying that isn't yours to carry? Quotes from the Episode "Burnout isn't always caused by working too many hours. It comes from carrying too much responsibility for too long." "The better you perform, the more successful you are, the more responsibility you carry." "It's not one dramatic decision that fixes burnout. It's a thousand small ones." Leadership Insights Q: What is leadership burnout? A: Leadership burnout is a state of physical, mental, and emotional exhaustion caused by prolonged responsibility, decision fatigue, and the pressure to hold everything together. Unlike general tiredness, burnout often affects leaders who love their work and care deeply, but have taken on more than they can sustainably carry. It's not about working too many hours. It's about carrying too much responsibility for too long. Q: Why do leaders struggle to let go of responsibility? A: Leaders often tie their identity and value to their ability to solve problems and make decisions. Letting go can feel like losing usefulness. But holding onto tasks that others can do limits growth for both the leader and their team. Learning to release responsibility is a sign of maturity, not weakness. The shift happens when you begin to see recovery not as rest, but as a practice of clearing mental space and imagining a different way of being. Resources Learn more about Jaime Taets and Keystone Group InternationalExplore Jaime's Women’s Executive RetreatsFollow Jaime on Instagram, LinkedIn, and FacebookIf this episode shifted how you think about burnout, share it with a fellow leader who needs to hear it. Subscribe to Go First with Jaime Taets for more conversations about leadership, growth, and taking that next step forward. Go First is the show where we talk about what it takes to move forward: first, fast, and with purpose. Everything you want is on the other side of the next unknown step. Let's Go First together. Jaime Taets

    Leadership Burnout: The Real Cause and What Leaders Get Wrong with Jaime Taets
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Hosted by CEO, leadership expert, keynote speaker and author Jaime Taets, Go First explores what happens when successful people stop waiting for certainty and start moving before they feel ready. Through honest conversations with CEOs, founders, entrepreneurs, athletes and high-performing leaders — along with Jaime's solo insights — the show goes behind the highlight reel to explore the decisions, fears, failures and transformations that shape successful people. Episodes explore leadership development, personal growth, resilience, burnout, decision-making, vulnerability, organizational change, energy, purpose and what it takes to create meaningful change in your work and life. Because clarity doesn't always come before action. Sometimes you have to Go First. If you're navigating a career transition, leading through change, questioning what success means now, facing a difficult decision or simply know there's another version of yourself waiting on the other side of action, this podcast is for you. Go First with Jaime Taets gives leaders practical insights, honest stories and the courage to take the next meaningful step. Why leaders keep hitting play:1. It names the fear you're not supposed to admit. Waiting to feel ready is often just waiting. If you're a leader stuck at the edge of a decision, hoping for more certainty before you move, this show gives you permission and a push to go first anyway. 2. It's tactical, not just inspirational. Every episode delivers frameworks you can use immediately - how to separate the fear you should listen to from the fear that's just noise, how to make a decision without full information, how to build the kind of energy management that makes moving first sustainable instead of reckless. 3. The guests have actually gone first. This isn't theory from consultants who've never made the call under pressure. Listeners have heard from a crisis-communications founder who rebuilt her career and her family through her son's cancer diagnosis, a Super Bowl champion who had to find purpose beyond the game that defined him, and CEOs who scaled companies while unlearning the need to have all the answers before they acted. 4. It reframes hesitation as a leadership signal, not a character flaw. Instead of glorifying certainty, Go First treats the instinct to wait as data, a signal about what you're actually afraid of losing, and what needs to change so you can move anyway. 5. It's built for the leader standing at the edge of their next decision. Whetheryou're weighing a career pivot, a business bet, a hard conversation, or a change you already know you need to make, this show offers a way to move, not just a reason to keep thinking about it. Who should listen to Go First: Executives, founders, entrepreneurs, coaches, and high-performing professionals who know what they should do next but are stuck waiting to feel ready. If you Google "how to make decisions without all the information," "overcoming fear of failure as a leader," "how to take action despite uncertainty," or "podcast for leaders who feel stuck," this is the show built for exactly that search.What you'll actually learn: How to make high-stakes decisions before you have full information. How to tell the difference between the fear that protects you and the fear that stalls you. Practical energy management for leaders operating without a guarantee. Why the leaders who move first aren't fearless, they've just built a different relationship with fear. How clarity is a result of action, not a precondition for it.www.jaimetaets.com

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