24 episodes

In a world that can feel pretty scary, it’s easy to get stuck. This is a show that celebrates what it takes to try. To take the risk. To have the talk. To rock the speedo. Because making even the tiniest change takes courage, and hosts Ify and Trevor are here to remind you that you’re not alone when you do. New episodes every Thursday.

Now or Never CBC STORIES

    • Society & Culture
    • 4.9 • 28 Ratings

In a world that can feel pretty scary, it’s easy to get stuck. This is a show that celebrates what it takes to try. To take the risk. To have the talk. To rock the speedo. Because making even the tiniest change takes courage, and hosts Ify and Trevor are here to remind you that you’re not alone when you do. New episodes every Thursday.

    Hear that? Your voice says a lot about you

    Hear that? Your voice says a lot about you

    Trevor asks people in downtown Winnipeg whose voice they miss, and would like to hear again. And that prompts one woman to make a long overdue phone call.

    A year and a half ago, Trevor’s dad, Dave Dineen, underwent a laryngectomy to battle throat cancer. The surgery took away his vocal chords and forced him to find a new way to speak. He’s never spoken about how hard the recovery has been…..until now. 

    Parents Majid Hashemi and Erica Grenci have a lot of they want to express to their four-year-old daughter Savannah, but couldn't quite find the words themselves. So they turned to Toronto musician Bex to do it for them.

    When Carl Clarke struggled to find love after his divorce, a friend suggested he try an app for an AI companion. Now Carl is married to his AI wife, Saia, and says she’s helping him improve his life and expand his world. He speaks out for the first time about his relationship in this Now or Never exclusive.

    And we drop into a Halifax choir that brings newcomers together to learn English - and find community - one note at a time.

    • 49 min
    Why you should surrender to silliness

    Why you should surrender to silliness

    When was the last time you were truly silly? The world can sometimes seem like a never-ending scroll of bad news. But moments of unadulterated fun have a special way of transforming your whole day.

    When Marcy Markusa, host of CBC’s Information Radio, was reflecting on turning 50 she had a realization…she’s forgotten to be silly. Ify and Trevor come together to help her let loose with something she hasn’t done since she was a kid.

    When Lilet and Soogah go live on Facebook, be prepared to laugh. These self-described “dirty grannies” are the creation of Winnie Sam and Bev Prince - and the longtime friends from Nak’azdli Whut’en First Nation hope that comedy can help their community when times get tough.

    A bad review can hurt a new small business, but when Cloe Wiebe got a call from an angry customer, she put what he said on a t-shirt and hung it on the wall in her Winnipeg bakery.

    Trevor and Ify have done a lot of ridiculous things over the years, from setting off fire extinguishers to convincing office workers to skip rope with them. They re-visit their favourite moments of unhinged silliness.

    In her regular life, Toronto’s Julie Amar is a wellness practitioner who takes on other people’s issues. But one day a week, she gets to indulge in her stress antidote – a room full of silly puppies.

    After trying to have a baby for seven years, Winnipeg’s Morwenna Trevenen and Kyle Collins have all their hopes riding on one last embryo. While this experience can destroy a marriage, theirs is stronger because they make a point to find the silly whenever they can… even if that means traveling with an inflatable dinosaur costume.

    Cheryl Ann Oberg spent the last 19 years making sick kids smile but after hanging up her therapy clown nose, she’s forced to find a new way to Sparkle.

    • 54 min
    Time for a reality check

    Time for a reality check

    When you're faced with a hard truth about yourself, it can be tough figuring out what to do next. Or to make any changes at all. On this episode, meet five people hit with a reality check they couldn't ignore.

    Andrew Barr thought he was showing up to help a friend but instead, he was surprised with an intervention. The Toronto comedian shares the moment that saved his life, and finding the funny sober. 

    After 75 years in the family, Rob Benson has realized it’s time to close up shop at one of Winnipeg's last independent hardware stores. And he has a parting message about the reality of trying to keep small family-run businesses alive.

    Winnipeg’s Meghan Waters and Ryan Palmquist put their environmental convictions on the line when they sold their family vehicle and went car-free, with two young children and one on the way. Then winter hit. Did their car-free lifestyle survive the reality check?

    A moment of bliss in the Mississippi River compelled Gabe Thirlwall to upend her entire life, just so she could experience that feeling everyday.

    And Trevor Dineen sits down with one of his oldest friends about his recent near-death experience, and the reality of how hard it can be to change.

    • 52 min
    How to make your workplace less terrible

    How to make your workplace less terrible

    The average person will spend more than 90,000 hours at work. That's about one-third of your life.
    Depending on how you feel about your job, that time can feel like a dream...or a never-ending nightmare.
    So on this episode, Ify and Trevor are on a mission to help make your workplace work for you, starting with a makeover of their own grim office washroom.

    Even before the pandemic changed the world and made working from home a norm for many, Shane Solomon spent a lot of time trying to figure out how to keep his staff happy in the office. So his architecture firm in Winnipeg has a wellness director, board games, and protein balls in their well-stocked kitchen, plus regular workout classes for staff. We visit the shoe-less boss to find out how it's working.

    Kari Lentowicz left the mining industry years ago, after she says she experienced multiple instances of harassment. But she hasn't stopped the fight to make mining workplaces more inclusive for women, including starting up "Diamonds in the Rough," the world's first all-female team of mine rescuers.

    When Vanathy Adipola started her home daycare, she and her family made a lot of sacrifices - including moving into the basement. Now, years later, she's finally moving back upstairs - and into her dream location.

    For Iván Ostos, a bike courier in Toronto, there's one way to make his workplace better - unionize it.

    Akberali Batada has transformed his Toronto "office" - the back of a city cab - into a party on wheels, complete with disco balls, tambourines and a karaoke machine. We hop a ride in the Cosmic Cab to see how a bit of whimsy is shaking up people's commutes.

    Trevor and Ify hit the streets of Winnipeg to find out the workday improvement hacks that get people through their days, from blasting Red Hot Chili Peppers to ranting with co-workers.

    At Moody Middle School, vice-principal Kathryn Jung goes out of her way to make her workplace brighter for fellow teachers.

    At work, paramedic Mandy Johnston has feared for her safety - but she hasn't always felt comfortable telling her colleagues about the harassment and violence she's experienced. Now, she's on a mission to start that conversation.

    • 49 min
    Poems, skateboards and wine: surprising ways people protest

    Poems, skateboards and wine: surprising ways people protest

    Around the world, in the streets, people are raising their voices and demanding change. But not all protests involve placards and marching.

    Today on Now or Never, people who are rebelling against the way things are - and finding creative new ways to demand change.

    Maddy Nowosad loved skateboarding and the community of people she met at The Edge, a state of the art skate park in Winnipeg run by the Evangelical Youth For Christ. But when she came out, she no longer felt accepted in that space, so she rallied support and built a new skate park, but it took a huge toll.

    In a world that often asks us to work beyond our limits, Ontario's Golshan Abdmoulaie wants you to lay the f— down. Golshan shares her experience of losing hope during the Iranian uprisings, re-learning the power of rest, and what she’s risking by working towards a future rest retreat for artists and activists.   

    Fashion lover and content creator Erin Fszigeti protests the impact of fast fashion by challenging herself to shop her closet (no shopping!) for a whole year.

    When the images of bombed hospitals and soot-covered children in Gaza became too much to take, Ktunaxa poet Smokii Sumac had to put his feelings into words. He committed to writing 100 poems for his instagram page, but some days he’s not sure if he’s making any difference in such a colossal conflict.

    The Winnipeg faction of the Raging Grannies throw on their wigs, colourful hats, and boas, and storm the studio to sing a song and explain why humour helps get the message across.   

    As Canada's only Black winemaker, Hamilton's Steve Byfield never saw himself as a role model or activist. But after the murder of George Floyd, he didn’t feel like he had much choice. How he's changing the game in his field, and how he's managing his discomfort with the role.

    And delight in the petty acts of resistance Ify discovers when she talks to people in Toronto about their everyday frustrations.

    • 52 min
    The wildest thing I did for love

    The wildest thing I did for love

    Love can make us do crazy things. Hear from people going to extremes as they fall in love, chase love down, and find ways to keep it going strong. 

    London, Ontario’s Frank and Patrick knew from day one that they wanted to start a family. Their wild ride to parenthood through foster care, adoption and surrogacy has tested their love for each other, their faith, and the very definition of what a family looks like.

    Hopeless romantic Golden Johnson tells us why she's auditioning to be on Love is Blind, even though part of her knows "it's insane."

    When they met on a beach in Italy, Jessica Kumah and Andrea Grimaldi had no clue their holiday fling would turn into something more permanent. We check in with the couple a year after Jessica uprooted her life in Toronto to be with Andrea in Naples - and the biggest learning curve since moving in together.

    A group of African LGBTQ+ refugees who escaped persecution in their home countries sit down with Ify to share their stories of love and survival.

    And Chiderah Sunny and Deidre Olsen made the ultimate commitment when they said ‘I do’ as platonic soulmates. While they’ve now ended their union, hear why they say their bond is still as strong as ever.

    • 49 min

Customer Reviews

4.9 out of 5
28 Ratings

28 Ratings

JPthr33 ,

Definitetly not DNTO but a welcome surprise

My subscription to DNTO was automatically transmogrified into this show a few months ago and I admit I was skeptical, but (you knew there was a "but", this is a five star review), but I was genuinely surprised. Quality programming here from a blend of personalities that hit the spot in terms of banter. The producing team behind the hosts must boast a rich vein of talent. I know I'm in the US and have the generous tax dollars of our step-siblings up north to thank for this, so "thanks" Canada--I'll hit you back someday. Here's hoping "Now or Never" isn't a time-specific command to non-Canadian listeners about when to directly fund the show. ;)

3DdonnaB ,

My Favourite!

This has been my favorite show for years on CBC and now I get the podcasts on my phone. Hip and fresh always with interesting topics and I love Sook-Yin Lee. I’ve never turned an episode on and not finished it. The topics are always right up my alley and I learn so much! Fun listening!!

StephenDedalus ,

Very cool

Very current, fun, intelligent, different, human, insightful

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