The Out of the Cave Podcast Lisa Schlosberg

Lisa is joined by Restorative Health and Wellness professional, Sean Jacobs, as they discuss the importance of a holistic approach to fitness, integrating mind-body connection and breathwork. They talk about how this method addresses mental, emotional, and physical health, offering sustainable and long-term well-being solutions. Sean also highlights the significance of proper breathing techniques, stress management, and the need for continuous improvement in one’s personal and professional life. 

Topics Include:


Holistic Fitness
Different Types of Breathing
Importance of Breathwork
Overall Fitness and Well-Being

[2:00] Lisa expresses excitement about connecting with someone who shares similar interests, philosophy, and curiosity, leading to a meaningful conversation. Sean introduces himself as a holistic human performance specialist, emphasizing the importance of a holistic approach to the human body and behavior. Sean explains his philosophy of considering the mind-body connection and the nuances of human differences in his approach to fitness and well-being. Sean talks about how he and his wife run an online training and nutrition coaching business that focuses on holistic approaches, addressing gray areas often disregarded by personal trainers and medical professionals.

[5:00] Lisa and Sean discuss the importance of nuance and gray areas in their work, which they feel has been lost in many places. Sean talks about how many of his clients are looking for sustainable, longevity-focused programs rather than short-term quick fixes and are dealing with significant mental, emotional, or physical obstacles that force them to make a change.

[11:50] Sean shares his journey into breathwork that began with a lack of answers in traditional fitness and health education, leading to self-study and mentorship in breathwork and human movement. He goes on to tell how it felt important to bring this information to others in a meaningful way. 

[19:25] Sean discusses how people are unaware of their breathing patterns and how mastering the three types of breathing can improve overall health, manage stress, and enhance mobility. 

[22:36] Lisa and Sean deep dive into the impact of stress and body image on breathing patterns and the importance of proper breath control for overall well-being. Sean explains the three types of breathing: nasal breathing, slowing respiratory rate, and diaphragmatic breathing.

[41:00] Sean shares how his techniques of down regulation help with emptying the stress bucket so that later it can increase to help manage stress better. 

[1:00:00] Lisa and Sean close out the discussion with how to find Sean online: Jacobs Fitness Instagram, YouTube, Master Class, and website. 

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Lisa is joined by OOTC group coaching program alum, Cyndie, as they discuss the profound impact that family dynamics, emotional eating, and societal pressures on body image had on her. They discuss how through the group coaching program Cyndie was able to make the shift towards self-compassion and her happier, authentic self. 

Topics Include:


Family Dynamics
Diet Culture
Intuitive Eating and Anti-Diet Culture
Self-Compassion and Acceptance

[2:00] Lisa and Cyndie start off the discussion with who Cyndie is and how she came to the OOTC retreat very early into the group coaching program. 

[5:00] Cyndie discussed her early memories related to food within her family context, emphasizing the cultural importance of food in her Italian and Mexican heritage and how food was associated with love and family gatherings.

[9:00] Cyndie talks about how her father’s alcoholism made meal times emotionally charged and potentially dangerous, overshadowing the nurturing aspect of food.

[14:00] Lisa and Cyndie discuss the shame and unwanted attention received from early physical development during puberty, leading to body image issues. In response to body shaming and control over appearance, Cyndie talks about adopting a punk rock persona as a form of rebellion during teenage years. Despite being physically small, Cyndie shares how she perceived herself as larger due to body dysmorphia influenced by societal beauty standards.

[30:00] Cyndie recounts experiences with Weight Watchers, highlighting the cyclical nature of dieting and the psychological impact of constantly measuring food and body. After multiple dieting attempts, Cyndie explored anti-diet culture, seeking to normalize her relationship with food and body image.

[44:00] Cyndie shares that during periods of personal trauma, such as family illness and loss, food became a source of comfort and emotional coping. It was during one of these times that Cyndie found Lisa and made the decision to join the group coaching program. 

[53:30] Cyndie shares her experience with the group coaching program and all she has learned from the OOTC group coaching program and how it has changed her life and her relationship with food. 

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Lisa describes an online incident, “Eyebrow Gate”, where a video mocking her eyebrows went viral, leading to a flood of negative comments and harassment across various platforms, including Instagram, email, and even her personal cell phone.

Topics Include:


Online Harassment
Resilience
Self-Compassion and Support
Personal Growth and Healing

[3:00] Lisa discusses what happened in the events that led to Eyebrow Gate and her experience of it. 

[14:10] Lisa then discusses what she did, how she moved through the experience of being harassed online, and her coping strategies. Lisa talks about feeling her feelings, not stopping herself from experiencing them. She talks about navigating her feelings with embarrassment and finally accepting them through all of this. She discusses the support system she had in her friends and the self-compassion she showed herself during this time.

[33:05] Lisa shares her takeaways and reflections from going through the whole experience. Lisa talks about the things people said that were meant to be supportive but only made her feel not seen and the things she wished they had said instead. She discusses her experience dealing with her inner child in a compassionate way and how we should always show ourselves kindness and compassion.

[48:45] Lisa concludes with sharing the next steps for herself now that she is on the other side of the harassment. She explains how she is proceeding as the person she wishes to be and is operating under that persona.

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Lisa interviews Erin, OOTC group coaching alum, an animal loving veterinarian who, through the group coaching program, has achieved significant personal growth and changes in a matter of months, which years of therapy couldn’t achieve. She also has learned to accept herself and has a community of acceptance without judgment allowing her to finally have a feeling of safety.

Topics Include:


Early Struggles with Food and Body Image
Body Image and Self-Worth
Eating Disorder and Mental Health
Personal Growth and Healing Journey

[3:00] Erin discusses the early stages of life, from ages 0-5 and 5-10, and the lack of significant issues with food or body image. However, from ages 5-10, she started receiving messages about being too big and weighing too much, primarily after pediatrician appointments, leading to a restricted diet by her mother

[11:00] Erin shares her decision to lose weight before starting high school by counting calories and increasing physical activity and how this weight loss led to a boost in self-esteem and more attention from her peers

[14:00] Erin goes on to discuss how the loss of her first relationship led to feeling of inadequacy and how comments about her body affected her self-image and ultimately the beginning of her experience with bulimia 

[37:00] Erin and Lisa discuss Erin’s belief that being thinner would lead to happiness and fulfillment persisted until finally admitting to her husband that she had a problem and made the commitment to seek therapy and work on recovery

[40:11] Erin recounts finding the OOTC podcast and how Lisa’s approach deeply resonated with her and made her feel understood and less alone; after two years of listening to the podcast and following Lisa on social media, Erin decided to join the group coaching program

[46:00] Erin and Lisa discuss the importance of recognizing one’s worth and deservingness of healing, love, safety, and stability in life, body, and relationship with food

[50:03] Erin closes out with her gratitude that through the group coaching program has found a community of accepting and non-judgmental people where she can be vulnerable 

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Join Lisa as she talks to Out of the Cave group coaching alum,
Muna. Topics include: Muna's journey from childhood to adolescence, exploring her evolving relationship with food, body image, cultural influences, and the change in family dynamics. The conversation continues as Muna describes her experiences with disordered eating, specifically bingeing, purging, and later developing a restrictive relationship with food, intertwined with addictive marijuana use. Muna describes how a mountain biking accident led to a period of grief and loss of identity, triggering binge eating as a coping mechanism. This behavior persisted into early adulthood, alongside struggles with depression and insomnia. Muna talks about finding relief from insomnia through marijuana use, which then evolved into an addictive coping mechanism. Muna describes receiving praise for weight loss, leading to a restrictive relationship with food out of fear of losing attention gained from weight loss. Muna recalls how this cycle persisted for decades, and how even though she was maintaining a successful outward appearance, she was struggling internally with disordered eating and addiction. Muna discusses how she experienced addiction transfer and cross addiction, moving from one addictive behavior to another without addressing the underlying issues. Lisa and Muna continue the discussion with Muna’s relapse during the pandemic and her new road to recovery. Muna discusses the significance of grief work in her personal growth and recovery and how it is an essential aspect of healing. Muna also shares free recovery resources. Lisa and Muna wrap up the conversation with a discussion of the importance of community and how it makes a difference in recovery and how the OOTC group coaching program helped bring that to her.

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Join Lisa as she continues her conversation with Julie Markowitz, a licensed social worker and psychotherapist who specializes in treating chronic pain, as they continue to discuss Julie’s healing journey to her true self. Topics include: [02:10] trigger warnings and their place in weight loss and chronic pain relationships, the difference between taking care of yourself and avoidance, [09:17] Lisa and Julie talk about Julie’s recovery from disordered eating and how intuitive eating played a part in it, [12:38] they talk about wavering through recovery and feeling safe through perceived threats, [16:25] Lisa and Julie go deeper into how Julie learned about intuitive eating, and how healing from disordered eating isn’t just about the food but healing the whole person, [19:40] Julie explains more about what weight science is, weight set point, why diets don’t work, and the Minnesota Starvation Study, how Julie couldn’t control her weight the way she thought she could, and how the body needed to gain weight until it felt safe enough to regulate, [25:35] Julie and Lisa discuss how doctors fail to correlate the relationship between their disordered eating and their loss of menstruation, how the return of that was a sign of health , [29:36] Julie and Lisa further explore the recovery process and learning how to eat again, their recovery from disordered eating, the feelings around that, and the importance of finding the right supports to get through the process, [37:00] Julie discusses navigating recovery through the rough times, intentional weight loss, and the feelings around people commenting on her body, [54:00] Julie and Lisa discuss the pivotal moment of finding movement that feels good the body, how yoga helped improve their relationships with their bodies, and explore using exercise not for weight loss but as a way for your body to feel good, [1:02:00] Julie closes out with emphasizing that the recovery process cannot be rushed and recovery does not look the same for everyone. Purchase the OOTC book of 50 Journal Prompts. Leave Questions and Feedback for Lisa via OOTC Pod Feedback Form. Register for
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