Leaning into Leadership

Darrin Peppard

We all want to see successes in both our personal and professional lives. Often, that requires strong leadership. In a time when leadership can be more challenging than ever, this podcast is dedicated to cultivating leaders by elevating the voices of leaders and promoting positivity. Join Dr. Darrin Peppard, lifelong educator and best-selling author, for this mixed platform podcast (some solo, some guest interview) for inspiration and insight, and some great leadership stories from those are living it, excelling at it, and celebrating it. Together, let's lean into leadership.

  1. 3d ago

    Episode 302: The Work Nobody Sees - A Thank You to School Principals

    What happens when the person everyone turns to needs someone to turn to? October is National Principals Month, and Dr. Darrin Peppard is sharing one of his most personal leadership stories yet. During his years as a high school principal, Darrin once drove to the top of a mountain for one simple reason: he needed somewhere he could scream. It was a moment that reflected the emotional weight of leading a school, carrying confidential information, navigating difficult decisions, and supporting an entire school community. In this special solo episode of Leaning Into Leadership, Darrin explores the invisible backpack every principal carries and the important leadership work that often goes unnoticed. Drawing from his experiences as a principal, superintendent, and leadership coach, he shares three examples of the unseen work that makes an extraordinary difference: the conversations nobody hears, the decisions nobody understands, and the moments nobody remembers. But this episode isn't simply about the challenges of principalship. It's a celebration of the relationships, collective purpose, and privilege that make the work so meaningful. In this episode: The personal story behind Darrin's trip to the top of a mountain.The invisible backpack principals carry and why even the strongest leaders need support.Three important acts of leadership that rarely receive recognition.Why relationships remain one of the greatest rewards of school leadership.A challenge for superintendents to support the people who lead their schools.Two meaningful ways to celebrate National Principals Month. A question worth considering: Who helps the person everybody else comes to for help? Whether you're currently serving as a principal, supporting school leaders, or remembering a principal who made a difference in your life, this episode is a reminder that some of the most important leadership work happens when nobody is watching. During National Principals Month, take a moment to recognize someone whose leadership has made a difference. Be specific. Tell them about the conversation, decision, or moment that mattered. They might have no idea you still remember. This Episode Is Sponsored by Curriculum Leadership Institute and by HeyTutor We're excited to welcome Curriculum Leadership Institute (CLI) as our newest sponsor! Darrin has personally worked with CLI twice during his educational leadership career, first as a principal and again as a superintendent. CLI partners with districts to build sustainable curriculum systems, strengthen alignment, and provide teachers with the clarity they need to succeed. New districts can receive a 5% discount on their first year of service by mentioning Leaning Into Leadership. Learn more at https://cliweb.org or email info@cliweb.org. HeyTutor partners with schools and districts to provide high-impact, in-person tutoring in literacy and math, helping students receive targeted academic support. Learn more at https://heytutor.com. Keep leaning into leadership, keep making a difference, and have a Road to Awesome week!

  2. Sep 27

    Episode 301: Building Champion Teams - Connection Before Performance with Gaby Jordan

    What separates a group of talented people from a truly great team? In Episode 301 of Leaning Into Leadership, Darrin sits down with executive coach and global educator Gaby Jordan to explore what it takes to build what she calls champion teams—teams grounded in connection, honesty, trust, and a shared commitment to something bigger than themselves. Gaby brings a unique perspective to leadership. After practicing law for 15 years in Midtown Manhattan, she transitioned into business, executive coaching, and eventually education. Today, her work spans corporate organizations and educational settings from K–12 schools to universities. Across all of those environments, she has discovered one important constant: leadership is always human work. Darrin and Gaby dig into why relationships matter so much to team performance. High-performing teams don't have to be made up of best friends, but people do need to know one another, understand one another, and be willing to have honest conversations. Gaby shares how learning someone's origin story—and even acknowledging our own vulnerabilities and imperfections—can completely change the way a team works together. They also explore one of the biggest threats to healthy teams: the stories we create in our own heads. Darrin shares a story from his school leadership days about a colleague whose "thinking face" he initially interpreted as frustration or disagreement. That simple misunderstanding becomes a powerful example of how easily assumptions can turn into narratives—and how those narratives can quietly damage relationships. Gaby introduces the idea of Champion Conversations, intentional conversations designed to help people address unresolved issues rather than carrying old transgressions forward. She explains why teams sometimes need to clear the air before they can create a meaningful vision for the future. The conversation also explores agency, vulnerability, silos, honesty, and why leaders can't simply pile a new strategy on top of unresolved team dysfunction. As Gaby puts it, you can't create a compelling future "on top of the muck." If you lead a school, district, organization, department, or leadership team, this episode is an important reminder: the strength of your strategy will always be limited by the strength of the people trying to execute it together. In this episode: Why leadership and teamwork are fundamentally human workWhat Gaby means by a "champion team"Why connection can improve team performanceThe danger of operating in silosHow assumptions and made-up narratives damage relationshipsWhy vulnerability matters on leadership teamsHow Champion Conversations help teams clear old baggageHelping people recognize their agency instead of operating from victimhoodWhy honesty is essential to solving the right problemsCreating a shared vision after rebuilding connection and trustWhat Gaby is doing right now to lean into leadership Connect with Gaby Jordan Learn more about Gaby's education work through Human Better EDU. You can also find Gaby on LinkedIn and Instagram and learn more about her corporate leadership work through Source Elements Group. This Episode Is Sponsored by HeyTutor HeyTutor partners with schools and districts to provide high-impact, in-person tutoring in literacy and math, giving students targeted support alongside the work of classroom teachers. Learn more about how HeyTutor can support student learning in your school or district at HeyTutor.com

  3. Sep 23

    Episode 300: Leadership Lessons From the People Who Helped Shape the Journey

    Three hundred episodes. For this milestone edition of Leaning Into Leadership, I wanted to do something different. Instead of looking back by myself, I invited six incredible leaders—and people who have become an important part of my own journey—to join me for a conversation about leadership, growth, relationships, and the people who help us become better versions of ourselves. Joining me for Episode 300 are Jason Ryan, Katie Kinder, Todd Bloomer, Bentli Lewis, Josh Tovar, and Brandon Beck. Every one of them has appeared on the podcast before. More importantly, every one of them has challenged me, encouraged me, taught me something, and sharpened the iron along the way. We start with a simple question: What are you learning about yourself as a leader right now? That opens the door to a powerful conversation about moving from solving problems to developing people, learning to lead through influence, building leadership capacity in others, staying close to the work, adapting when circumstances change, and recognizing that leadership is always a long game. We also dig into how leaders continue to sharpen the iron. The answers range from surrounding yourself with people who challenge your thinking and intentionally building your network, to reading, listening, taking care of yourself, prioritizing family, staying curious, seeking feedback, and remaining humble enough to recognize that what worked yesterday may not work tomorrow. Then we turn the tables and look back at Leaning Into Leadership itself. Each guest shares an episode or conversation that has stayed with them—and hearing what they chose reminded me why I started this podcast in the first place. What began as an opportunity to grow a platform has become something much more meaningful: a place for me to learn alongside some remarkable people. We close with a lightning round built around three questions every leader should consider: What advice would you give someone beginning their leadership journey?How are you leaning into leadership right now?Who was the person who tapped you on the shoulder and helped you see something in yourself? That final question may be the most important one of the entire episode. Leadership rarely happens alone. Somewhere along the way, someone sees something in us. They encourage us. Challenge us. Open a door. Invite us to the table. Sometimes they see our potential before we do. Episode 300 is a celebration, but it is also a reminder of what leadership is really about: people, relationships, growth, and creating opportunities for others to become more than they thought possible. To every guest who has joined me over these first 300 episodes and every listener who has spent part of their week with Leaning Into Leadership—thank you. 300 down. We’ve got way more than 300 to go. This Episode Is Sponsored by HeyTutor HeyTutor partners with schools and districts to provide high-impact, in-person tutoring in literacy and math, giving students targeted support alongside the work of classroom teachers. Learn more about how HeyTutor can support student learning in your school or district at HeyTutor.com

  4. Sep 20

    Episode 299: Too Damn Happy - Building More Joy Into the Work with Phil Januszewski

    What if flourishing at work didn't require a massive life overhaul? In this episode of Leaning Into Leadership, Darrin welcomes back speaker, educator, and soon-to-be author Phil Januszewski for a high-energy conversation about happiness, relationships, and the small choices that can make demanding work more sustainable. After 20 years in the classroom, Phil stepped away from teaching to speak full time — or, as he puts it, he “quit my job to help other teachers not quit theirs.” His work now takes him across the country helping educators and other service-oriented professionals feel less tired and more inspired. His upcoming book, Too Damn Happy, draws from his own experiences along with positive psychology to explore practical ways people can flourish even in challenging, high-pressure environments. Darrin and Phil dig into the idea of “building in the good stuff.” Instead of waiting until after work or the weekend to do the things that fill us up, Phil challenges us to intentionally put small moments of joy into the workday itself. A song. A quick walk outside. A two-minute conversation with someone you care about. These aren't dramatic changes; they're small deposits that can make the work more sustainable. They also explore what happens when we give away our natural gifts. Those gifts aren't necessarily talents you can put on a résumé. They might be humor, listening, cooking, creativity, energy, calm, or simply being willing to admit when you don't know something. When we bring more of ourselves into our work and share those gifts with others, we create opportunities for connection — and give others permission to do the same. That leads Darrin and Phil into an important conversation about relationships. We spend a lot of time talking about educators getting to know their students, but relationships are a two-way street. When adults appropriately allow others to see who they really are, they can open the door for trust, vulnerability, and genuine human connection. And students are also watching how the adults around them interact with one another. Phil closes by sharing how he's leaning into leadership right now: giving his gifts and connecting great people with other great people. For him, leadership isn't simply about doing his own work well. It's about helping other people thrive too. In this episode: Why Phil left the classroom after 20 yearsThe story behind Too Damn HappyWhy happiness doesn't require ignoring the difficult parts of our workHow to “build in the good stuff” throughout your dayWhy tiny shifts can make demanding work more sustainableIdentifying and giving away your natural giftsHow vulnerability opens the door to stronger relationshipsWhy students notice the relationships adults modelThe difference between performative positivity and genuine flourishingHow giving and connecting others can become an act of leadership This Episode Is Sponsored by HeyTutor HeyTutor partners with schools and districts to provide high-impact, in-person tutoring in literacy and math, giving students targeted support alongside the work of classroom teachers. Learn more about how HeyTutor can support student learning in your school or district at HeyTutor.com

  5. Sep 13

    Episode 298: The Resistance Solution with Becca Silver

    What if resistance isn’t something leaders need to overcome? In Episode 298 of the Leaning Into Leadership Podcast, Darrin sits down with Becca Silver, CEO and founder of The Whole Educator and author of The Resistance Solution, for a powerful conversation about what is really happening when educators push back against change. Becca challenges leaders to stop labeling people as “resistant” and instead recognize that resistance is an experience people move through. Rather than relying on compliance, consequences, or generic advice like “build better relationships,” she introduces a human-centered approach that helps leaders understand the unmet needs underneath resistance. Drawing from her own experience as a teacher who resisted change, an instructional coach who initially struggled to create change, and eventually a leadership coach who became highly effective at working with educators experiencing resistance, Becca shares the research behind her five Catalyst Mindsets. Darrin and Becca explore: Why resistance is often the result of unmet needs rather than unwillingness or negativityThe difference between a “resistant teacher” and a teacher experiencing resistanceWhy schools hire critical thinkers—and then sometimes expect them simply to complyThe five Catalyst Mindsets: value, belonging, success, growth, and ownershipWhy generic strategies for dealing with resistance often miss the real problemThe critical difference between compliance, buy-in, and true ownershipWhy agency is essential if leaders want people to own changeHow clarity around non-negotiables and professional judgment can immediately increase ownershipWhy leaders must explicitly tell people where they have permission to use their expertiseHow human-centered leadership can move change forward without going around people’s humanity One of the most practical takeaways from the conversation is something leaders can implement immediately: be crystal clear about what is non-negotiable and where people have the agency to exercise their professional judgment. When people understand where they have voice, choice, and the ability to make a meaningful impact, leadership can begin moving beyond compliance and toward genuine ownership. Becca also shares how she is personally leaning into leadership through shared leadership—developing others to lead the work rather than building something that depends entirely on her. Connect with Becca SilverBecca Silver is the CEO and founder of The Whole Educator and author of The Resistance Solution. Her work helps instructional coaches and educational leaders navigate resistance to change through a human-centered approach. Learn more about Becca, The Resistance Solution, the Resistance Solution Community, her Book Study Facilitator Training, and the Coaching the Whole Educator podcast through The Whole Educator. This Episode Is Sponsored by HeyTutor HeyTutor partners with schools and districts to provide high-impact, in-person tutoring in literacy and math, giving students targeted support alongside the work of classroom teachers. Learn more about how HeyTutor can support student learning in your school or district at HeyTutor.com

  6. Sep 6

    Episode 297: Stop Accepting “That’s Just the Way It Is”

    What happens when growth doesn’t solve your problems—but actually makes them bigger? In Episode 297 of Leaning Into Leadership, Dr. Darrin Peppard sits down with entrepreneur, Marine veteran, and business leader Ron Nussbaum for a conversation about entrepreneurship, problem solving, challenging the status quo, and what it really takes to build something that matters. Ron shares the story behind BuilderComs and the realization that changed the way he thought about growth: if you scale your organization without solving the problems already inside it, you’re simply scaling those problems too. That lesson reaches far beyond entrepreneurship. Darrin and Ron explore why leaders sometimes become comfortable tolerating things that are merely “okay,” why challenging the status quo doesn’t mean changing everything, and why one of the most important questions a leader can ask is, “What problem are we actually trying to solve?” Ron also shares the thinking behind Ask a Shop Owner, a platform designed to give small business owners actionable guidance and accountability when they encounter real-world business challenges. The conversation closes with an important reality about entrepreneurship and leadership: every meaningful pursuit involves trade-offs. The goal isn’t to avoid them. It’s to intentionally choose the trade-offs that move you toward the life, organization, and outcomes you actually want. In this episode: Why leaders need to stop scaling problemsChallenging “that’s just the way we’ve always done it”Finding the real problem before searching for solutionsWhy growth can magnify existing organizational weaknessesTurning experience and knowledge into actionable plansThe role accountability plays in creating resultsWhy entrepreneurship requires uncomfortable trade-offsChoosing freedom, stability, and the outcomes that matter mostExpanding the reach of your leadership Ron’s challenge is simple but powerful: don’t accept a problem simply because everyone else has learned to live with it. Challenge it. Solve it. Then scale the solution. This Episode Is Sponsored by HeyTutor HeyTutor partners with schools and districts to provide high-impact, in-person tutoring in literacy and math, giving students targeted support alongside the work of classroom teachers. Learn more about how HeyTutor can support student learning in your school or district at HeyTutor.com

  7. Aug 30

    Episode 296: Beyond Compliance - Building Classrooms Where Students Want to Engage

    What if the goal of great teaching isn’t getting students to comply, but creating the conditions where they genuinely want to engage? In this episode of Leaning Into Leadership, Dr. Darrin Peppard sits down with educator, school leader, author, and founder of Terry Leadership Group, Kendall Terry, for a conversation about what happens when schools stop focusing primarily on what teachers are doing and start paying closer attention to what students are actually learning. Kendall shares his experience helping build Clayton-Bradley Academy from its early years and the unique opportunity that came with designing educational systems from the ground up. Rather than inheriting decades of “this is how we’ve always done it,” Kendall and his colleagues were able to ask a different question: What does research tell us about how the brain learns, and how should that change what happens in our classrooms? That question eventually helped shape the Learning-Centered School Model, where the learner—not the teacher, the curriculum, or the test—is at the center of instructional decisions. Kendall and Darrin explore what that actually looks like in practice, from something as simple as welcoming every student into the classroom to making learning relevant, interactive, safe, and meaningful. The conversation then moves into Kendall’s BRACE Framework, five conditions that can dramatically influence engagement: B — Belonging: Students and teachers need to know they are valued and that their voices matter. R — Relevance: Learners need to understand what they are learning and why it matters. A — Agency: Students and teachers need autonomy, ownership, and opportunities to create, try, fail, and try again. C — Challenge: Learning should stretch people appropriately while providing the support necessary for success. E — Engaged Response: Learning isn’t a one-and-done transaction. Students need opportunities to respond, receive feedback, revisit their thinking, and continue until they reach mastery. For school leaders, BRACE also provides another powerful opportunity: shifting classroom walkthroughs and instructional feedback away from simply looking for compliance and toward identifying the conditions that produce authentic student engagement. As Kendall points out, students can comply because they don’t want to get in trouble—or they can engage because the learning experience is meaningful enough that they actually want to participate. Those are very different outcomes. Darrin and Kendall also dig into SMART habits and an important leadership truth: goals give us a destination, but habits determine whether we ever get there. The challenge isn’t deciding that we want greater belonging, stronger engagement, or improved student achievement. The challenge is determining what we will actually do on a Tuesday afternoon when the fire drill just ended, students are bouncing off the walls, and the big strategic goal is the furthest thing from our minds. Kendall suggests starting incredibly small. Want to increase belonging? Build the habit of greeting every student by name. Then connect the behavior to a predictable trigger: If class is beginning, then I will greet every student who enters my classroom by name. Small. Repeatable. Intentional. And over time, potentially transformational. Finally, Kendall answers the question every guest on Leaning Into Leadership receives: How are you leaning into leadership right now? His answer is one every leader should consider: listening. Not listening while preparing the next response. Not listening long enough to tell someone why they're wrong. But listening with the genuine intention of understanding another person's perspective, experience, and situation. Because belonging begins when people believe their voice actually matters. In This EpisodeWhy student learning—not teacher performance—should be at the center of instructional decisionsHow brain research can influence everyday classroom practiceWhy greeting students and creating predictability matter more than we sometimes realizeThe difference between student compliance and genuine engagementKendall's BRACE Framework for increasing engagementHow belonging, relevance, agency, challenge, and engaged response work togetherWhy leaders can use BRACE to strengthen classroom walkthroughs and feedbackThe limitations of setting goals without intentionally developing habitsHow small, repeatable habits can create significant changeWhy leaders need to listen to understand instead of listening to respond Connect with Kendall Terry: Terry Leadership Group and the BRACE resources are available through Kendall's website, and he also shares his work on LinkedIn, Facebook, and Instagram. This Episode Is Sponsored by HeyTutor HeyTutor partners with schools and districts to provide high-impact, in-person tutoring in literacy and math, giving students targeted support alongside the work of classroom teachers. Learn more about how HeyTutor can support student learning in your school or district at HeyTutor.com.

  8. Aug 23

    Episode 295: Who Takes Care of the Leader? with Melissa Doman

    Leadership comes with expectations. Be steady. Be available. Support your people. Make the difficult decisions. Carry the pressure. But what happens when the person everyone looks to for support needs support too? In this episode of Leaning Into Leadership, Darrin sits down with organizational psychologist, former therapist, and author Melissa Doman for an honest and practical conversation about leadership mental health, communication, emotional intelligence, and what sustainable leadership actually looks like. Melissa challenges the idea that leaders should simply absorb the pressure that comes with the role. Instead, she argues that organizations need to humanize leaders and give them permission to communicate their needs, acknowledge their capacity, and access the same resources they are expected to provide for everyone else. Darrin and Melissa explore the popular idea that “leaders eat last” and why servant leadership can become unhealthy when leaders interpret service as sacrificing themselves for everyone around them. Sustainable leadership requires leaders to care for others and manage their own emotional and cognitive capacity. The conversation gets incredibly practical as Melissa introduces the idea of communicating capacity — being able to tell your team honestly where you are and what you can realistically handle. If you're operating at 30 or 40 percent on a particular day, your team doesn't need you to pretend you're at 100. They need clarity about what they can expect from you. Darrin and Melissa also discuss: Why emotional intelligence, communication, and constructive conflict should be considered core professional developmentWhy policies and procedures aren't enough if people haven't learned how to communicate effectivelyThe danger of practicing servant leadership to your own detrimentHow leaders can give team members permission to speak up when something seems differentWhy curiosity is more productive than immediately judging a leader's behaviorHow to communicate your capacity without using it as an excuse for poor performanceThe difference between mission-critical priorities and manufactured emergenciesStephen Covey's circles of control, influence, and concernCreating personal mental well-being non-negotiables that actually work for youWhy leadership peer-support networks should exist inside organizationsThe importance of leaders modeling the use of the resources they encourage their employees to useWhy leadership can become incredibly lonely — and why leaders need other leaders who understand what it means to “sit in the chair” Melissa also shares insights from her book Cornered Office: Why We Need to Talk About Leadership Mental Health, along with the upcoming Wiley re-release of Yes, You Can Talk About Mental Health at Work: Here's Why (and How to Do It Really Well). And because this is Leaning Into Leadership, the conversation somehow also includes salsa dancing, inflatable Velociraptors, ABBA…and the first-ever Chewbacca impression in podcast history. Well, at least in this podcast's history. About Melissa DomanMelissa Doman is an organizational psychologist, former therapist, author, speaker, and consultant who teaches organizations, leaders, and employees the practical skills needed to talk about mental health, communication, and team dynamics at work. Her clients range from global organizations to professional sports teams, mid-sized companies, and small businesses around the world. Her latest book, Cornered Office: Why We Need to Talk About Leadership Mental Health, explores the often-overlooked emotional and cognitive realities of leadership and challenges organizations to include leaders in conversations and systems designed to support workplace mental health. Connect with MelissaWebsite: melissadoman.com LinkedIn: Melissa Doman Instagram: @thewanderingmel Mentioned in This EpisodeCornered Office: Why We Need to Talk About Leadership Mental Health (link) Yes, You Can Talk About Mental Health at Work: Here's Why (and How to Do It Really Well) — re-releasing from Wiley on September 29, 2026. This Episode Is Sponsored by HeyTutor HeyTutor partners with schools and districts to provide high-impact, in-person tutoring in literacy and math, giving students targeted support alongside the work of classroom teachers. Learn more about how HeyTutor can support student learning in your school or district at HeyTutor.com.

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We all want to see successes in both our personal and professional lives. Often, that requires strong leadership. In a time when leadership can be more challenging than ever, this podcast is dedicated to cultivating leaders by elevating the voices of leaders and promoting positivity. Join Dr. Darrin Peppard, lifelong educator and best-selling author, for this mixed platform podcast (some solo, some guest interview) for inspiration and insight, and some great leadership stories from those are living it, excelling at it, and celebrating it. Together, let's lean into leadership.

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