Send us Fan Mail Many of us are carrying a question we never expected to ask: what does safety look like for our kids? Where can we find it? For some families, that urgent question may drive them to consider moving to a different state. For others, that may not be enough, and a move out of the United States feels like the safest choice. Our guest In the Den today is Kate Isett, who moved to Spain and formally filed a case to help legally establish that the U.S. is no longer a safe country for transgender people. Kate will take us inside what it takes to leave, what's hard, what's possible, and the complicated reality of what it means to be safe. Special Guest: Alexandria Kate Isett Kate grew up in Lubbock, Texas, in a household where the Christian faith wasn't just important–it was everything. Her father, a retired naval officer and former Texas State Representative elected on a platform of staunch family values, and her mother, a Christian Zionist who believes Trump is God's chosen instrument for ushering in the second coming of Christ, homeschooled all seven of their children and were certain the world outside was pulling children away from God. Both remain devoted MAGA supporters to this day. Growing up in the closet in West Texas left Kate scarred, depressed, and suicidal, and she subsequently spent the first decade of her adult life as an addict. She achieved sobriety in mid-2018 and believes her sobriety was the catalyst to her coming out as trans and becoming the most complete version of herself. In December of 2025, Kate created a plan of action to flee the country and seek asylum in Barcelona, Catalunya, Spain. She filed for asylum on February 12th, 2026, and once she knew the U.S. couldn't pull her back, she got to work starting a nonprofit. During this time, there was an increasing anti-trans movement occurring on a state and federal level, and Kate made a small guide that included all the steps she took to relocate successfully and took that to the masses with an Instagram post simply stating: "I have info. Hit me up if you need it." At the end of the video Kate closed by briefly mentioning a nonprofit she was working to start up and, in that moment, LGBTQ+ Assoc. Far “FAR”) was breathed into existence. Within weeks, FAR was organized, and on June 1st, 2026, FAR officially announced itself as a resource for the LGBTQ+ community. Links from the Show: LGBTQ FAR websiteThe Androgynous Vagabond on IGJoin Mama Dragons todayGo deeper with Empowered Parent Learning - Mama Dragons’ on-demand library of video courses and webinars for parents of LGBTQ+ kids. Two tracks: Parenting Essentials and Parent Advocacy. Free for Mama Dragons members, a small one-time fee for everyone else. Includes Suicide Prevention Training and Parachute eLearning. In the Den is made possible by generous donors like you. Help us continue to deliver quality content by becoming a donor today at www.mamadragons.org. Support the show Connect with Mama Dragons: Website Instagram Facebook Donate to this podcast
