Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl

Thomas Huebl

Point of Relation podcast illuminates the path to collective healing at the intersection of science and mysticism. Host Thomas Huebl welcomes visionaries, innovators, artists, and healers for deep conversations about how we can activate our shared intelligence to meet the most pressing challenges of our time.

  1. 2d ago

    Michael Meade | The Courageous Path of the Heart

    This week, Thomas sits down with mythologist Michael Meade for a conversation about initiations, awakenings, and how to access your innate gifts to be a transformative force in a world in crisis. Michael shares about his formative experience as a conscientious objector during the Vietnam War, and how the confinement, isolation, and trauma that he endured informed his spiritual development and life philosophy. He and Thomas look at the current uncertain state of the world where old structures are collapsing as a liminal space where the new world has not yet been born. Michael argues that healing and evolving into a better world requires us to be present with conflict, sustain soulful connections, maintain creative and contemplative practices, and find the courage from our heart to lean into our authentic, imperfect selves. ✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube: 👉 https://youtu.be/WxJM-YICdkQ Video episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET For more episodes of the Point of Relation podcast, visit: https://pointofrelationpodcast.com/ ✨ Michael Meade, D.H.L., is a renowned storyteller, author, and scholar of mythology, anthropology, and psychology. He combines hypnotic storytelling, street-savvy perceptiveness, and spellbinding interpretations of ancient myths with a deep knowledge of cross-cultural rituals. He is the creator of the Living Myth Podcast, and the founder of Mosaic Multicultural Foundation, a nonprofit that encourages greater understanding between diverse peoples. Connect with Michael here 👉 https://www.mosaicvoices.org Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Point of Relation Podcast: https://pointofrelationpodcast.com Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl ✨ Order Thomas and Internal Family Systems founder Dr. Richard Schwartz's co-authored book, Releasing Our Burdens, here: 👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.com Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future: 👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9

    Michael Meade | The Courageous Path of the Heart
  2. Jul 21

    Kaira Jewel Lingo | Reconnecting to Nature, Spirit, and Presence

    This week, Thomas sits down with Dharma teacher and author Kaira Jewel Lingo to explore how we can heal our deeply fractured relationship with the Earth and break out of the modern digital trance. Kaira shares her unique experience of transitioning out of monastic life as a nun and back into a fast-paced digital world. This experience gave her a unique perspective on how technology consumes our attention, and what’s needed to reconnect to our relationships, ourselves, our spirituality, and the earth. She and Thomas discuss how face-to-face connection can help us reclaim our presence, why our global crises stem from our disconnection with nature, and what’s needed for a collective re-awakening into an interconnected and embodied life that’s defined by care and curiosity instead of an isolated existence fueled by exploitation and inattention. ✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube: 👉 https://youtu.be/xFKHhTFCAv8 Video episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET For more episodes of the Point of Relation podcast, visit: https://pointofrelationpodcast.com/ ✨ Kaira Jewel Lingo is a senior dharma teacher in the Zen lineage and also a Vipassana teacher. She is a member of the Plum Village North American Dharma Teachers Council of Elders. Based in New York, she is the author of We Were Made for These Times, co-author of Healing Our Way Home, and provides spiritual mentoring, focusing on racial and earth justice and engaged spirituality. Connect with Kaira here 👉 https://www.kairajewel.com If you'd like to learn more about the Strother School of Radical Attention that Kaira references in the episode, visit their website: https://www.schoolofattention.org Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Point of Relation Podcast: https://pointofrelationpodcast.com Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl ✨ Order Thomas and Internal Family Systems founder Dr. Richard Schwartz's co-authored book, Releasing Our Burdens, here: 👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.com Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future: 👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9

    Kaira Jewel Lingo | Reconnecting to Nature, Spirit, and Presence
  3. Jul 14

    Creating Inner Space for Change

    This week, Thomas shares a teaching on creating conscious inner spaciousness to process life’s challenges and use them as engines for personal and spiritual growth. By opening up space for a larger “cup” to hold our wounds and traumas, we can address and understand them without being defined by them. Having this space also allows us to shift from a state of habitual, past-focused attention to one of conscious presence. Thomas shares how integrating the past in this way brings in new light and new possibilities, enables us to mature and grow (both personally and collectively), and disrupts patterns of intergenerational trauma. ✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube: 👉 https://youtu.be/LKR21mZDF9c Video episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET For more episodes of the Point of Relation podcast, visit: https://pointofrelationpodcast.com/ Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Point of Relation Podcast: https://pointofrelationpodcast.com Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl ✨ Order Thomas and Internal Family Systems founder Dr. Richard Schwartz's co-authored book, Releasing Our Burdens, here: 👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.com Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future: 👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9

    Creating Inner Space for Change
  4. Jul 7

    Zubaida Bai | Engineering an End to Poverty and Patriarchy

    This week, Thomas sits down with the CEO of the Grameen Foundation, Zubaida Bai, for an inspiring conversation about amplifying oppressed voices, economically empowering women, and creating cultural and systemic changes to end poverty. Zubaida has spent decades working within impoverished communities across the globe to create adaptive, localized strategies to change outdated attitudes, make childbirth safer, and get women much-needed access to capital to ensure their long-term financial viability. Her holistic approach to poverty alleviation combines empathetic, culturally sensitive relationship building with a deep understanding of climate change, technology, and financial access. She and Thomas discuss how to create sustainable interventions and innovations for those in impoverished areas, and why it’s so important to uplift the voices and struggles of women and mothers in the fight against poverty. ✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube: 👉 https://youtu.be/uw6DMjk5dHk Video episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET For more episodes of the Point of Relation podcast, visit: https://pointofrelationpodcast.com/ ✨Zubaida Bai is President and CEO of Grameen Foundation, with over 20 years in the social impact sector. A social entrepreneur and advocate for women’s health and financial well-being, she founded ayzh, a social enterprise providing essential healthcare products for women and girls. She previously led social ventures at CARE International and now focuses on advancing financial health globally. Bai has been recognized as a World Economic Forum Young Global Leader, Ashoka Maternal Health Champion, TED Fellow, and United Nations SDG 3 Pioneer. She holds a master’s in Mechanical Engineering, an MBA from Colorado State University, and an honorary doctorate from Claremont Graduate University. Connect with Zubaida and the Grameen Foundation here 👉 https://Grameenfoundation.org Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Point of Relation Podcast: https://pointofrelationpodcast.com Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl ✨ Order Thomas and Internal Family Systems founder Dr. Richard Schwartz's co-authored book, Releasing Our Burdens, here: 👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.com Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future: 👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9

    Zubaida Bai | Engineering an End to Poverty and Patriarchy
  5. Jun 30

    Unlocking Purpose Through Presence

    This week, Thomas explores how to connect with your deepest purpose and uncover your ‘karmic blueprint’ through embodied presence and contemplative practices. He shares how purpose is not an external object to be found, but an internal truth that’s revealed by working through life’s challenges, healing your individual wounds, and integrating the wounds of those who came before you. When we learn to see challenges not as obstacles, but as opportunities to encounter our core creativity and break unhealthy patterns, our path forward becomes much clearer. Thomas also explores the importance of finding community on this journey, and how our personal transformations have ecosystemic impact. There's still time to join Thomas this month for a new 7-Day Journey: ✨ Unlocking Your Purpose: Deepen Your Connection to your Innermost Calling ✨ Through 7 days of teachings, meditations, and practices led by Thomas, you'll discover your life's purpose as a mystical, emergent, and ongoing dialogue between your inner creative spark and the needs of the world. It all takes place in our membership community, The Mystic Café. Join now, and you'll get your first month of membership for just $1! Learn more and start your journey here 👉 https://mysticcafeonline.com/ Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Point of Relation Podcast: https://pointofrelationpodcast.com Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl ✨ Order Thomas and Internal Family Systems founder Dr. Richard Schwartz's co-authored book, Releasing Our Burdens, here: 👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.com Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future: 👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9

    Unlocking Purpose Through Presence
  6. Jun 23

    Best Of: Spirituality and Mysticism

    This week, we’re releasing our 200TH EPISODE! To celebrate this milestone, we’re sharing a compilation of some of our favorite segments from previous episodes on spirituality and mysticism. You’ll hear from Thomas and acclaimed guests with backgrounds in meditation, Buddhism, neuroscience, philosophy, poetry, and Indigenous African spirituality, including: Andrea Gibson, Bayo Akomolafe, Dr. Lisa Miller, and Jack Kornfield. Tune in for embodied wisdom, deep expertise, and powerful personal insights on the spiritual experience of mortality, the mystical traditions of the Igbo and Yoruba people, how spirituality functions in the brain, and the transformative power of collective experiences and rituals. 01:24 - Andrea Gibson on Befriending Mortality 06:53 - Jack Kornfield on Finding Your Self on the Spiritual Path 19:20 - Thomas on Embodying Our Soul's Capacity 25:47 - Bayo Akomolafe on Bold Frontiers of Spiritual Healing 38:41 - Dr. Lisa Miller on The Science of Spiritual Awakening ✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube: 👉 https://youtu.be/2MbBpz-VciU Video episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET Here are the links to watch or listen to the full episodes that these clips were taken from: 🎬 Segment 1 features acclaimed poet Andrea Gibson from the episode Befriending Mortality 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com/podcast/andrea-gibson-befriending-mortality/ 🎬 Segment 2 features meditation expert and author Jack Kornfield from the episode Finding Your Self on the Spiritual Path 👉https://pointofrelationpodcast.com/podcast/jack-kornfield-finding-your-self-on-the-spiritual-path/ 🎬 Segment 3 features Thomas from the episode Embodying Our Soul’s Capacity 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com/podcast/embodying-our-souls-capacity/ 🎬 Segment 4 features scholar and philosopher Bayo Akomolafe from the episode Bold Frontiers of Spiritual Healing 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com/podcast/bayo-akomolafe-phd-bold-frontiers-of-spiritual-healing/ 🎬 Segment 5 features psychologist and author Dr. Lisa Miller from the episode The Science of Spiritual Awakening 👉 https://pointofrelationpodcast.com/podcast/dr-lisa-miller-the-science-of-spiritual-awakening/ Join Thomas this month for a new 7-Day Journey: ✨ Unlocking Your Purpose: Deepen Your Connection to your Innermost Calling ✨ Through 7 days of teachings, meditations, and practices led by Thomas, you'll discover your life's purpose as a mystical, emergent, and ongoing dialogue between your inner creative spark and the needs of the world. It all takes place in our membership community, The Mystic Café. Join now, and you'll get your first month of membership for just $1! Learn more and start your journey here 👉 https://mysticcafeonline.com/ Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Point of Relation Podcast: https://pointofrelationpodcast.com Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl ✨ Order Thomas and Internal Family Systems founder Dr. Richard Schwartz's co-authored book, Releasing Our Burdens, here: 👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.com Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future: 👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9

    Best Of: Spirituality and Mysticism
  7. Jun 16

    Healing the Shadow Trauma of Transgression with Matthew Green

    This week, Thomas sits down with journalist Matthew Green to explore the hidden effects of “shadow trauma” and what it takes to heal and repair after acting against your own ethics. From personal missteps to moral injury to ancestral and historical trauma, we all carry the weight of transgression. But often, the shame that accompanies this holds us back from integration and healing. Thomas and Matthew discuss how to move beyond isolation and repression to bring our vulnerabilities into safe, healing environments where we can reintegrate these fragmented shadow parts, repair relationships, and restore our connection to our true selves. ✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube: 👉 https://youtu.be/WicZWDsHV34 Video episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET Join Thomas this month for a new 7-Day Journey: ✨ Unlocking Your Purpose: Deepen Your Connection to your Innermost Calling ✨ Through 7 days of teachings, meditations, and practices led by Thomas, you'll discover your life's purpose as a mystical, emergent, and ongoing dialogue between your inner creative spark and the needs of the world. It all takes place in our membership community, The Mystic Café. Join now, and you'll get your first month of membership for just $1! Learn more and start your journey here 👉 https://mysticcafeonline.com/ ✨ Matthew Green is a journalist and co-host of the “What Is Collective Healing?” podcast. He worked as a correspondent for the Financial Times and Reuters, and is the author of Aftershock, a book documenting the trauma healing journeys of British veterans. He serves as global investigations editor at DeSmog and is a graduate of Thomas Hubl’s Timeless Wisdom Training. He’s the creator of the Resonant World newsletter and the co-founder of the Resonant Man initiative. Connect with Matthew here 👉 https://matthewgreenglobal.substack.com Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Point of Relation Podcast: https://pointofrelationpodcast.com Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl ✨ Order Thomas and Internal Family Systems founder Dr. Richard Schwartz's co-authored book, Releasing Our Burdens, here: 👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.com Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future: 👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9

    Healing the Shadow Trauma of Transgression with Matthew Green
  8. Jun 9

    Emergence and Interconnectedness

    This week, Thomas explores how the phenomenon of emergence occurs when we stop trying to escape into a "better" future and instead drop deeply into the present moment. He posits that growth occurs when we stop treating the world as an external object and instead recognize our inherent oneness with the global ecosystem… and that this perception shift is fundamental to all forms of healing. As Thomas says, “You are not in nature, you ARE nature.” This teaching also touches on the trap of “spiritual superiority,” focusing on how true wisdom arises not by shunning anyone who seems less in tune, but by maturing beyond ego-driven divisions and leading, with empathy, by example. ✨ Watch the video version of this episode on YouTube: 👉 https://youtu.be/lBAzg9wc1QQ Video episodes are typically posted at 8am PT/ 11am ET Join Thomas this month for a new 7-Day Journey: ✨ Unlocking Your Purpose: Deepen Your Connection to your Innermost Calling ✨ Through 7 days of teachings, meditations, and practices led by Thomas, you'll discover your life's purpose as a mystical, emergent, and ongoing dialogue between your inner creative spark and the needs of the world. It all takes place in our membership community, The Mystic Café. Join now, and you'll get your first month of membership for just $1! Learn more and start your journey here 👉 https://mysticcafeonline.com/ Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. In addition to Attuned, he is the author of Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University. ✨ Connect with Thomas here: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Point of Relation Podcast: https://pointofrelationpodcast.com Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomashuebl/ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/ThomasHuebl YouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashuebl ✨ Order Thomas and Internal Family Systems founder Dr. Richard Schwartz's co-authored book, Releasing Our Burdens, here: 👉 https://www.releasingourburdens.com Take our listener survey! We'd love your feedback on which topics and guests are resonating with you and which ones you'd like to hear more about in the future: 👉 https://forms.gle/uoygyKMmHeUHeJFD9

    Emergence and Interconnectedness
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Point of Relation podcast illuminates the path to collective healing at the intersection of science and mysticism. Host Thomas Huebl welcomes visionaries, innovators, artists, and healers for deep conversations about how we can activate our shared intelligence to meet the most pressing challenges of our time.