The Holistic Counselor

Diana S. Rice, LMHC, CIMHP, QS
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The Holistic Counselor Podcast is where faith, psychology, and whole-person wellness meet. Hosted by Diana S. Rice, LMHC, CIMHP, QS—a licensed mental health counselor, integrative practitioner, and storyteller based in South Florida—this podcast offers grounded, compassionate conversations for anyone seeking emotional healing, mental clarity, spiritual growth, and healthier relationships. Episodes feature a wide range of voices: therapists, physicians, attorneys, pastors, educators, authors, wellness practitioners, and advocates. Together, we explore trauma recovery, nervous system health, neuroplasticity, boundaries, identity, spiritual formation, church hurt, anxiety, resilience, integrative wellness, creativity, and the real stories that shape us. Some conversations reflect Diana's Christian perspective and theology; others center on clinical insight, cultural context, or holistic practices. All episodes share the same intention: reducing stigma, elevating mental-health literacy, honoring diverse lived experiences, and supporting whole-person transformation. This podcast is a safe space for clinicians, faith leaders, creatives, parents, and anyone on a healing journey—whether you come from a church background, a deconstructing season, a holistic wellness path, or simply curiosity about mental and emotional health. Florida therapy services: www.throughthevalleytherapy.com (Florida residents only) Consulting, coaching, and educational work: www.transformedmindcc.com Support the podcast and help keep it independent by visiting the merch store: https://theholisticcounselorpodcast.printful.me/ Educational only; not therapy, diagnosis, or medical care.

  1. 1d ago

    Ep. 111 - Men's Mental Health, Church Hurt, and Nervous System Healing with Sacred Grit's Spiritual Coach, Jason Lyle

    Hello there, fearfully and wonderfully made human. In this episode of The Holistic Counselor Podcast, host Diana S. Rice, LMHC, CIMHP sits down with Jason Lyle, founder of Sacred Grit, spiritual coach, and host of The Sacred Grit Podcast, for an honest and thought-provoking conversation about men's mental health, addiction recovery, church hurt, nervous system regulation, and faith reconstruction. Jason shares parts of his personal story—from growing up in the Southern Baptist church, to becoming a pastor, to navigating addiction, shame, and ultimately stepping away from traditional ministry. Through that journey, he began exploring how nervous system regulation, breathwork, cold exposure, meditation, and embodied practices can help people create space between emotional triggers and destructive behaviors. Together, Diana and Jason discuss why so many people today are wrestling with faith deconstruction, religious trauma, pornography addiction, and identity confusion, and why healing often requires both personal responsibility and compassionate support. They also explore the connection between neuroplasticity, nervous system regulation, spiritual formation, and behavioral change, along with the importance of building a supportive team that may include therapists, recovery communities, coaches, and healthy relationships. This episode may resonate with listeners searching for: • men's mental health and addiction recovery • healing from church hurt or religious trauma • nervous system regulation and emotional resilience • faith reconstruction and spiritual growth • pornography addiction and shame recovery • breathwork, cold exposure, and mind-body healing practices As always, the goal of this podcast is to create space for honest conversations that help people grow in clarity, responsibility, compassion, and hope. In This Episode We Discuss • Jason's story: from pastor to men's coach • Growing up in church and early exposure to pornography • Purity culture and the impact of shame on identity • Faith deconstruction and reconstructing spiritual beliefs • Nervous system regulation and trauma responses • The amygdala, prefrontal cortex, and impulse control • Breathwork, cold plunging, and discomfort training • Addiction recovery and behavioral patterns • The role of discipline, accountability, and daily practice • Why healing is rarely a quick fix Quotable Moments "Dysregulation is an attempt to soothe a trauma." — Jason Lyle "When your feet touch the floor in the morning, take five minutes and do one thing that makes you feel radically loved by yourself." — Jason Lyle "They still want to keep their faith… they still want to love the Lord and be in the Word, and it's like disentangling." — Diana S. Rice "The goal of this podcast is not to give quick fixes, but to create space for honest conversations that help people grow in clarity, responsibility, compassion, and hope." — Diana S. Rice Connect with Jason Lyle Sacred Grit Website https://thesacredgrit.com Sacred Grit Podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sacred-grit-daily-nervous-system-tools-and-spiritual/id1611084095 Coaching and Retreat Information https://thesacredgrit.com/explore-coaching Contact Jason https://thesacredgrit.com/contact Adventures in Recovery (AIR) https://www.recoveryadventures.org Books and Resources Mentioned Dopamine Nation – Dr. Anna Lembke https://www.annalembke.com/dopamine-nation Widen the Window – Dr. Elizabeth Stanley https://elizabeth-stanley.com/books-publications/widen-the-window/ The Body Keeps the Score – Dr. Bessel van der Kolk https://www.besselvanderkolk.com/resources/the-body-keeps-the-score Waking the Tiger: Healing Trauma – Dr. Peter Levine https://www.northatlanticbooks.com/shop/waking-the-tiger-healing-trauma/ The Ragamuffin Gospel – Brennan Manning https://www.brennanmanning.com/books/the-ragamuffin-gospel The Cosmic Christ – Richard Rohr https://cac.org/books/the-universal-christ/ The Sin of Certainty – Peter Enns https://peteenns.com/books/the-sin-of-certainty/ Internal Family Systems (IFS) – Dr. Richard Schwartz https://ifs-institute.com Support The Holistic Counselor Podcast If this conversation encouraged or challenged you in a meaningful way, please consider supporting the podcast. • Leave a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify • Share this episode with someone who may benefit • Explore podcast merch and resources The Holistic Counselor Podcast Merch and Support https://theholisticcounselorpodcast.com Disclaimer The Holistic Counselor Podcast is intended for educational and informational purposes only and does not replace professional mental health treatment, medical advice, diagnosis, or therapy. Jason Lyle is a coach and spiritual mentor and is not a licensed therapist. If you are struggling with addiction, trauma, or thoughts of self-harm, please seek support from a qualified mental health professional. In the United States, you can contact the 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988.

    1h 6m

  2. May 27

    Ep. 110 - When Words Aren't Enough: How Art Therapy Heals Trauma, Anxiety & Relationships (MBT Explained) | Anna Green, LMHC

    In Episode 110 of The Holistic Counselor Podcast, Diana S. Rice, LMHC, CIMHP sits down with Anna Green, LMHC, Chief Clinical Officer at Thrive, to answer questions people are actively searching for, including: What is art therapy (really)? Do you have to be "good at art" for art therapy to help? Why can creativity feel safer than talking about trauma? What is MBT (Mentalization-Based Treatment) in simple terms? How do curiosity and the "not-knowing stance" support healing and relationships? What do therapists need right now to prevent burnout and stay grounded? Anna brings over a decade of experience across mental health, addiction, and palliative care, along with training in art therapy, EMDR, psychodynamic psychotherapy, and MBT. Together, Diana and Anna explore how creativity can help people process emotions, reduce shame, and reconnect to themselves—especially when words feel too hard, too risky, or simply not available. This conversation is for clinicians, creatives, trauma survivors, people of faith, and anyone who wants more emotional clarity, better communication, and more compassion in relationships. About This Episode's Guest: Anna Green, LMHC Anna Green, LMHC is the Chief Clinical Officer at Thrive and a Licensed Mental Health Counselor with clinical experience in multiple levels of care. She has worked in education settings, hospice/palliative environments (supporting families and siblings), and clinical leadership roles—bringing both depth and practicality to the work of healing. What You'll Learn (Key Takeaways) What Art Therapy Is (and what it's NOT) Art therapy is psychotherapy that uses art as a tool for expression and exploration, alongside conversation. It is not an art class, and you do not need talent or skill to benefit. Why Art Can Feel Safer Than Words Some experiences happen before language, or in environments where speaking up led to punishment or shame. Art can help people express what's inside in a way that feels less exposing and more contained. MBT: Mentalization-Based Treatment in Plain Language Anna explains mentalizing as the ability to understand what's happening in your own mind and in someone else's mind—including thoughts, feelings, intentions, and beliefs—so relationships become clearer and less reactive. Curiosity as a Healing Skill This episode repeatedly returns to one theme: curiosity. Curiosity interrupts mind-reading, slows assumptions, strengthens relationships, and supports trauma-informed care—for clients and clinicians. Burnout Prevention for Therapists Anna shares what clinicians need most right now: higher-quality supervision that includes the therapist's inner experience, role-play and skill modeling, personal therapy when needed, transition rituals between work and home, and ongoing learning. Practical Tools You Can Try This Week (No Therapy Required) 1) "Take a line for a walk." Grab a pen and paper. Start with one line. No plan. No pressure. Just begin. This is a powerful way to start when the blank page feels intimidating. 2) Turn assumptions into questions Instead of mind-reading, practice checking things out: "Can I clarify what you meant by that?" "I noticed I felt unsure—can we talk about it?" "Help me understand what was going on for you." Quotes Worth Replaying (From This Episode) Diana S. Rice (Host) "Sometimes talk therapy isn't enough." "Healing is not just about diagnosis. It's about clarity. It's about connection." Anna Green (Guest) "You do not have to be an artist to do art therapy." "Mentalizing is a process of understanding what's going on in your mind and what's going on in somebody else's mind."   Resources Mentioned (Links) Thrive (Anna's organization): https://gothrivemh.com Anna Freud Centre (MBT training / background): https://www.annafreud.org/training/ Mentalization-Based Treatment (overview page for learning more): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mentalization-based_treatment (Helpful starting point for general readers; not a substitute for clinical training.) Book Anna recommends: On Learning from the Patient — Patrick Casement Art4Healing (Diana's COVID-era group experience; they note they are not art therapy): https://art4healing.org/ Understanding MBT: https://www.annafreud.org/training/health-and-social-care/mentalization-based-treatments-mbt/mentalization-based-treatment-adults/about-mbt/ 'Art Therapy and Sexual Offending'  - https://us.jkp.com/products/arts-therapies-and-sexual-offending Connect + Learn More If you enjoyed this episode, please follow the podcast, share it with a friend, and leave a review—it genuinely helps more people find these conversations. And as always: trust in the Lord, guard your heart, and renew your mind. Support the Podcast This podcast is independently created — no sponsors, no big production team. Each episode takes 3–5 hours to research, record, edit, and publish because these conversations matter. If this episode encouraged you, challenged you, or helped you grow, one simple way to support the mission is by visiting the merch store. Every purchase directly helps sustain this work and keep these faith-centered, evidence-informed conversations going. Shop here: https://theholisticcounselorpodcast.printful.me/   Disclaimer This podcast is for educational and informational purposes only and is not a substitute for professional mental health treatment, medical advice, diagnosis, or psychotherapy. Listening does not create a therapist-client relationship with Diana S. Rice or any guest. If you are in crisis or believe you may be experiencing an emergency, call 911 or go to your nearest emergency room. In the U.S., you can call or text 988 (Suicide & Crisis Lifeline).

    58 min

  3. May 20

    Ep. 109 - Church Hurt, Religious Trauma & High-Achieving Christian Women: Healing Perfectionism & Burnout in Leadership | Robin Goad, Author & AWS Executive

    What happens when a high-achieving woman climbs the corporate ladder—but is still carrying unresolved trauma, religious fear, and deep shame beneath the surface? In this episode of The Holistic Counselor Podcast, Diana S. Rice, LMHC, CIMHP sits down with Robin Goad, an Amazon Web Services (AWS) executive, speaker, and author of Girl by Birth. Woman by Fire. to talk about the intersection of trauma healing, church hurt, perfectionism, and leadership for Christian women. Robin shares her story of survival and transformation—childhood trauma, religious control, perfectionism, abortion-related grief, divorce, and the turning points that brought her into deeper healing and freedom through faith. This conversation is for anyone who has ever wondered: How do I heal from church hurt without walking away from God? Why does trauma show up as overworking, perfectionism, or burnout? Can I be ambitious and still honor Jesus? How do I lead with confidence without self-abandonment? If you're a high-achieving woman who loves Jesus but feels tired, conflicted, or invisible… you are not alone. WHAT YOU'LL LEARN (KEY TAKEAWAYS) How unresolved trauma can drive perfectionism, overworking, and burnout The difference between "religion as performance" vs. a life-giving relationship with God What Robin means by a "healthy church" (imperfect, but accountable and Scripture-rooted) Why quiet, stillness, and "pause" are essential for healing and discernment How shame and secrecy keep women isolated—and why safe community matters Post-abortion healing: forgiveness vs. true healing and freedom How to identify your "superpower" in corporate leadership (without comparison or imposter syndrome) ABOUT ROBIN GOAD Robin Goad is a wife, mother, grandmother, and "warrior in heels." She is a seasoned technology executive with over 25 years leading innovation at Amazon Web Services (AWS), Dell, Gartner, and more. Robin currently leads AWS Global Industry Solutions, delivering record-breaking growth and transformation. She is also the author of Girl by Birth. Woman by Fire, a raw and redemptive guide for women who want to stop performing and start healing. (Guest bio provided by Robin.) CONNECT WITH ROBIN Website: https://www.therealrobingoad.com Email: robin@therealrobingoad.com LinkedIn: (Search "Robin Goad" on LinkedIn) Free Call: On Robin's website, look for the option to schedule a "Superpower" call. RESOURCES MENTIONED Rachel's Vineyard (post-abortion healing retreats): https://www.rachelsvineyard.org/ CliftonStrengths (Gallup): https://www.gallup.com/cliftonstrengths 16 Personalities (MBTI-based): https://www.16personalities.com/ DISC Personality Assessment (general info): https://www.discprofile.com/ SHAPE Spiritual Gifts Test: https://www.freeshapetest.com/ DISCLAIMER This podcast episode is for educational and informational purposes only and is not a substitute for professional mental health treatment, medical advice, diagnosis, or therapy. If you are in crisis, contact 988 (U.S.) or your local emergency services.

    57 min

  4. May 13

    Ep. 108 - Long Covid, Chronic Fatigue, and Anxiety — When the Body Isn't Believed and the Nervous System Suffers | Evan H. Hirsch, MD

    Hello there, fearfully and wonderfully made human. In this powerful and deeply human conversation, host Diana S. Rice, LMHC explores what happens when physical illness, nervous system dysregulation, anxiety, and depression collide — especially in a medical system that often minimizes or dismisses symptoms it cannot easily explain. Six years after COVID changed the world, many people are still struggling with lingering symptoms, exhaustion, brain fog, anxiety, depression, and a profound sense of not feeling like themselves. For some, these experiences are labeled as "just anxiety." For others, answers never come at all. In Episode 108 of The Holistic Counselor Podcast, Diana is joined by Evan H. Hirsch, a physician known as EnergyMD, to unpack the complex intersection of Long Covid, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (ME/CFS), trauma, nervous system dysregulation, and mental health. This episode is not about quick fixes or miracle cures. It's about understanding the whole person — mind, body, and spirit — and restoring self-trust after prolonged illness and medical invalidation.  What You'll Learn in This Episode What Long Covid is and why symptoms can persist months or years after infection Why anxiety and depression can be symptoms, not root causes, of unresolved physical stress How medical gaslighting impacts mental health and nervous system regulation The concept of the "Toxic 5" (heavy metals, chemicals, mold, infections, nervous system dysfunction) How trauma (including ACEs) and chronic illness interact in the body Why the nervous system plays a central role in healing chronic fatigue and Long Covid A layperson explanation of sympathetic vs. parasympathetic nervous system states What a Herxheimer (die-off) reaction is and why it can temporarily worsen symptoms Practical, accessible steps listeners can start today to support healing Why healing requires pace, patience, and support, not hustle or perfection  Nervous System, Trauma, and Mental Health This conversation emphasizes a trauma-informed, whole-person lens. Diana and Evan discuss how unresolved infections, inflammation, mold exposure, and environmental stressors can alter neurotransmitters, intensify anxiety and depression, and keep the body stuck in survival mode. Listeners will hear why nervous system retraining, breathwork, gratitude practices, mindset shifts, and lifestyle changes are not "extra" — they are foundational.  Resources & Links Mentioned EnergyMD Method (Dr. Hirsch's practice & masterclass): https://www.energymdmethod.com Is Your Fatigue Fixable? Assessment: https://www.myfatiguescore.com Book: Fix Your Fatigue by Evan H. Hirsch, MD (An overview of his 4-step framework for chronic fatigue and complex illness) Key Concepts Discussed: Long Covid Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (ME/CFS) Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS) ACEs (Adverse Childhood Experiences) Vagus nerve & polyvagal theory Nervous system retraining Breathwork, gratitude, and mindset practices  A Note from Diana If you've been told "everything looks normal" while your body says otherwise — you are not imagining things, and you are not broken. Anxiety and depression are often signals, not verdicts. This episode is an invitation to listen to your body with curiosity instead of shame, to move slowly, and to seek care that honors your whole story.  Listen, Share & Stay Connected If this episode resonated with you, please consider sharing it with someone who feels exhausted, unheard, or discouraged.  Subscribe, rate, and review The Holistic Counselor Podcast  Follow Diana's work at Through the Valley Therapy and Transformed Mind Consulting & Coaching Check out the merch store:  https://theholisticcounselorpodcast.printful.me/ Trust in the Lord. Guard your heart. Renew your mind.

    49 min

  5. May 6

    Ep. 107 - Emotionally Focused Therapy (EFT): Attachment, Cycles, and How Couples Heal with Dr. Marni Feuerman

    In this episode of The Holistic Counselor Podcast, Diana S. Rice sits down with relationship expert Dr. Marni Feuerman for a deep, practical conversation about Emotionally Focused Therapy (EFT)—what it is, how it works, and why it has become one of the most researched and effective approaches to couples therapy today. Many people confuse EFT with tapping techniques, but Emotionally Focused Therapy is a structured, evidence-based talk therapy grounded in attachment science, emotional regulation, and interpersonal neurobiology. Dr. Feuerman breaks down the origins of EFT, how it helps couples move out of painful cycles, and why most relationship conflicts are not really about money, chores, or sex—but about emotional safety, connection, and whether we matter to one another. This conversation is especially helpful for: Couples feeling stuck in the same arguments Therapists wanting a clear explanation of EFT in practice Individuals curious about attachment patterns and emotional responsiveness Faith communities and cultures where therapy still carries stigma Listeners will hopefully walk away with hope, clarity, and practical, EFT-informed tools they can begin using right away. What You'll Learn in This Episode What Emotionally Focused Therapy (EFT) is—and how it differs from EFT tapping Who developed EFT and why attachment science matters in adult relationships Why couples often fight about surface issues instead of the real emotional pain underneath How negative interaction cycles become the "common enemy" in relationships What therapists mean by tracking and mapping patterns Why EFT focuses on emotional safety before problem-solving How EFT is used with couples, individuals, and families The difference between emotions and feelings, and why that distinction matters Simple, EFT-inspired shifts anyone can practice—even outside of therapy A message of hope for couples who feel disconnected or discouraged Guest Bio: Dr. Marni Feuerman Dr. Marni Feuerman is a psychotherapist based in South Florida with nearly 30 years of experience in the mental health field. She holds a master's degree in social work and a doctorate in clinical psychology, with specialized training in Emotionally Focused Therapy (EFT) and couples work. Dr. Feuerman is a clinical supervisor, author, and a widely respected voice on relationships. Her work has been featured in major outlets including Verywell Mind, HuffPost, and The Gottman Institute. She previously served as the marriage expert content writer for About.com and continues to educate the public through media, writing, and clinical practice. She is also the author of Ghosted & Breadcrumbed: Stop Falling for Unavailable Men and Get Smart About Healthy Relationships, a self-help book designed to help women recognize unhealthy relationship patterns and move toward more secure, emotionally available connections. Resources Mentioned in This Episode Book: Ghosted & Breadcrumbed: Stop Falling for Unavailable Men and Get Smart About Healthy Relationships https://a.co/d/08WLFnfP Article by Dr. Marni Feuerman on EFT (Verywell Mind): https://www.verywellmind.com/emotionally-focused-therapy-for-distressed-couples-2303813 Book: Hold Me Tight by Sue Johnson https://www.amazon.com/dp/031611300X Attachment Theory (general overview): https://www.simplypsychology.org/attachment.html The ARE Model (Accessible, Responsive, Engaged) – based on EFT principles Explained in Hold Me Tight and EFT literature Key Takeaways Most relationship conflict is rooted in attachment fears, not surface disagreements EFT helps couples externalize the problem by identifying the cycle, not blaming each other Emotional safety must come before communication strategies Change is possible—even when couples feel far apart Learning how to pause, soften, and respond differently can begin rewiring relational patterns About the Host Diana S. Rice, LMHC, CIMHP is a licensed mental health counselor, consultant, and host of The Holistic Counselor Podcast. Through Through the Valley Therapy and Transform Mind Consulting & Coaching, Diana integrates faith, brain science, trauma-informed care, and whole-person healing to help individuals and communities grow with clarity and compassion. Support the Podcast This podcast is independent and ad-free. Each episode takes 3–5 hours to research, record, and produce with care. If this conversation supported you: Leave a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify Explore the merch store to support this work  Merch Store: https://theholisticcounselorpodcast.printful.me/ Trust in the Lord. Guard your heart. Renew your mind

    46 min

  6. Apr 29

    Ep. 106 - CIRS (Mold Illness) Symptoms & Nervous System Healing After MS — Christine Ruch, Holistic Transformation Guide

    If you've ever been told your labs are "normal" while your body feels anything but, this episode is for you. In this conversation, Diana S. Rice, LMHC, CIMHP sits down with Christine Ruch, Holistic Transformation Guide, to explore Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome (CIRS), autoimmune illness, and the role of the nervous system in healing—through the lived experience of Multiple Sclerosis (MS). Christine shares her 20-year journey navigating MS, chronic inflammation, mold exposure, and nervous system overwhelm, and how healing required more than symptom management. Together, Diana and Christine discuss why anxiety, depression, brain fog, and emotional exhaustion are often physiological signals, not personal or spiritual failures. This episode is trauma-informed, faith-aware, and grounded in compassion—without blaming doctors, bypassing symptoms, or promising quick fixes. In This Episode, We Cover: What CIRS (Chronic Inflammatory Response Syndrome) is and why it's often misunderstood Common CIRS and mold illness symptoms, including anxiety, depression, brain fog, and nervous system dysregulation How autoimmune conditions like Multiple Sclerosis can impact identity, faith, and mental health Why "normal labs" don't always mean a regulated nervous system The emotional toll of navigating complex illness and feeling dismissed What nervous system restoration actually means (beyond calming techniques) The role of trauma, chronic stress, and early adversity in inflammatory illness How to approach healing without self-blame or spiritual bypassing Gentle, practical steps to support your nervous system when you're already exhausted Important Disclaimer This episode is educational and informational only. Diana S. Rice and Christine Ruch are not medical doctors, and nothing shared in this episode is intended to diagnose, treat, or cure any medical condition. Always consult with licensed and qualified healthcare professionals regarding your individual health needs. Resources Mentioned in This Episode (Links provided for educational purposes only) Christine Ruch – Official Website & Mentorship Programs https://www.christineruch.com/ Surviving Mold (Dr. Ritchie Shoemaker) – CIRS Education & Symptom Clusters https://www.survivingmold.com/ Dynamic Neural Retraining System (DNRS) https://retrainingthebrain.com/ The Gupta Program (Limbic System Retraining) https://www.guptaprogram.com/ Book: The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel van der Kolk, MD https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/316790/the-body-keeps-the-score-by-bessel-van-der-kolk-md/ About the Guest Christine Ruch is a Holistic Transformation Guide who supports individuals with chronic and autoimmune conditions in reconnecting with their body's innate wisdom and healing capacity. After spending more than two decades navigating and healing through her own experience with Multiple Sclerosis, Christine integrates whole-food nutrition, nervous system restoration, trauma-informed practices, and spiritual inquiry to help others move beyond symptom management and toward embodied healing. Support the Show If this episode resonated with you: Subscribe to The Holistic Counselor Podcast Leave a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify — reviews help this show reach others who feel alone in their healing journey Share this episode with someone who needs language, validation, and hope Podcast Merch Support the podcast and grab meaningful merch here:  https://theholisticcounselorpodcast.printful.me/ Connect with Diana The Holistic Counselor Podcast explores the intersection of faith, neuroscience, trauma-informed care, and whole-person healing. Thank you for being here—and for choosing curiosity, compassion, and courage on your healing journey.

    58 min

  7. Apr 22

    Ep. 105 - Single, Sexual, and Saved: Healing Shame, Purity Culture Wounds, and Disenfranchised Grief w Tracy Nallery Fultz, LCSW

    Hello there, fearfully and wonderfully made human, and welcome back to The Holistic Counselor Podcast. In Episode 105, I sit down with Tracy Nallery Fultz, a licensed clinical social worker, author, and founder of Heartfelt Needs Counseling and Caring Center, for one of the most honest, clinically grounded, and faith-centered conversations we've had on the show. This episode is for anyone who: Loves Jesus but feels confused, shamed, or silenced by church culture Is trying to disentangle biblical truth from purity culture, fear-based teaching, or spiritual control Has experienced church hurt, sexual shame, or unresolved grief Wants to integrate faith, mental health, nervous system regulation, and emotional honesty—without abandoning Christ This is not about tearing faith down. It is about discernment, healing, and learning how to hold faith and humanity together in a healthier, more honest way. Together, Tracy and I talk openly about: Prolonged singleness and desire Disenfranchised grief (the grief no one names or validates) Shame vs. guilt vs. conviction Purity culture wounds and sexual silence in Christian spaces Using the Fruit of the Spirit as a practical mental-health framework Why relationship with God matters more than rigid religious rules How nervous system dysregulation impacts choices, sexuality, and self-control Why mercy, not fear, is central to healing If you've ever felt like you had to choose between being a "good Christian" and being a real human—this conversation is for you. WHAT WE COVER IN THIS EPISODE What disenfranchised grief really is—and why it affects single adults, survivors, and people leaving high-control religious systems Why desire and arousal are not sinful, but often misunderstood How shame becomes an identity attack, not just an emotion The difference between religion-based condemnation and relationship-based conviction How to reframe self-care as biblical self-stewardship, not selfishness Why joy is not constant happiness—but a condition of the soul How trauma, church hurt, and nervous system dysregulation affect sexual behavior How to apply Galatians 5:22–23 (Fruit of the Spirit) to therapy, self-talk, and boundaries POWERFUL QUOTES FROM THE EPISODE Tracy Nallery Fultz "Disenfranchised grief is the grief we carry that no one acknowledges—especially the grief of waiting." "Desire is normal, natural, healthy, and good. The problem isn't desire—it's the environment around it." "Shame as a feeling is one thing. A spirit of shame comes for your identity." "Happiness is an emotion. Joy is a condition of your soul." "Weakness is not your identity. It's an indicator that something is needed." "Religion says condemnation. Relationship says mercy triumphs over judgment." Diana S. Rice "This isn't about deconstruction. It's about discernment and healing." "You have to stop and ask—did this belief come from Scripture, or from someone using Scripture to control you?" "People think they have no choice—but you always have a choice." "Self-control is about agency, not punishment." "Faith without nervous system regulation is incomplete healing." USING THE FRUIT OF THE SPIRIT AS A HEALING FRAMEWORK Tracy breaks down Galatians 5:22–23 in a clinically practical way: Love → Unconditional self-acceptance Joy → Meaning and gratitude even while grieving Peace → Grounding and calming the nervous system Patience → Allowing healing to be slow and non-linear Kindness → Gentle self-talk instead of self-attack Goodness → Choosing habits aligned with values Faithfulness → Showing up for yourself consistently Gentleness → Soothing the inner critic with empathy Self-Control → Boundaries, agency, and intentional choices Reflection Question: Which fruit do you need most right now—and how can you practice it toward yourself today? RESOURCES MENTIONED (WORKING LINKS) My Journey Solo – Book & Devotional (Tracy Nallery Fultz): https://heartfeltneeds.myflodesk.com/myjourneysolo Heartfelt Needs Counseling & Caring Center: https://heartfeltneeds.com Heartfelt Needs on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/HeartFeltNeeds/ Heartfelt Needs on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heartfeltneeds Free Journaling Hour Community (Monthly, First Tuesday): Details available through Tracy's website and email list SUPPORT THE PODCAST (AD-FREE & INDEPENDENT) The Holistic Counselor Podcast is intentionally ad-free so these conversations can stay ethical, trauma-informed, and faith-centered. If this episode helped you, you can support the show by visiting the merch shop:  https://theholisticcounselorpodcast.printful.me/ Your support helps keep this podcast going without compromising its mission. PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW If this episode resonated, please consider leaving a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Reviews help more people find this work—especially those quietly struggling with faith, shame, and healing. DISCLAIMER The Holistic Counselor Podcast is for educational and informational purposes only and does not constitute medical, mental health, or professional counseling advice. Listening does not establish a therapist-client relationship with Diana S. Rice or any guest. If you are experiencing a mental health crisis or feel unsafe, please contact your local emergency services or a qualified mental health professional. Remember: Trust in the Lord. Guard your heart. Renew your mind.

    1h 6m

  8. Apr 15

    Ep. 104 - The Truth About Teen Recovery: Family Systems, Stigma, and Getting the Right Level of Care w/ Katie Cousins, MSW

    Hello there, fearfully and wonderfully made human. In this episode of The Holistic Counselor Podcast, host Diana S. Rice, LMHC, CIMHP sits down with Masters-level Social Worker and Certified Life Coach, Katie Cousins, to explore how family systems, recovery, and access to care shape the outcomes of adolescents, young adults, and their families—especially in moments of crisis. Katie brings over a decade of experience in clinical residential treatment, program development, and community collaboration. Now serving as a Clinical Outreach Specialist for Newport Healthcare, she helps families navigate levels of care, understand systems theory, and access ethical, evidence-based treatment across South Florida. This episode is for listeners searching for support in: family systems, residential treatment for teens, PHP vs. IOP, understanding trauma, South Florida mental-health resources, breaking stigma in recovery, and how to find the right level of care for a struggling loved one. What We Discuss in This Episode What family systems theory is—and why it's not about blaming parents How systems influence behaviors like depression, anxiety, addiction, self-harm, and eating disorders Big T trauma vs. little t trauma Why South Florida has such a robust mental-health and recovery ecosystem What a Clinical Outreach Specialist actually does How to know when a child or adult may need a higher level of care Clear explanation of Residential, PHP (Partial Hospitalization Program), and IOP (Intensive Outpatient Program) The difference between the visible stigma (opiates) and the silent stigma (alcoholic moms) What "recovery" really means—and why it's more than addiction How accurate fact-finding reduces fear, stigma, and shame for families The role of community, collaboration, and asking better questions Two Powerful Quotes from This Episode From Katie: "Recovery means, I don't want to feel this way anymore, and I'm doing something about it." From Diana: "We go from false evidence appearing real to facing everything and rising." Resources Mentioned & Helpful Links Newport Healthcare (Adolescent & Young Adult Mental Health Treatment) Learn more about programs, levels of care, and family support: https://www.newporthealthcare.com/ Through the Valley Therapy (Diana's private-pay online practice for adults in Florida) https://www.throughthevalleytherapy.com/ The Holistic Counselor Podcast Homepage & Episode Library https://www.throughthevalleytherapy.com/podcast 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline (U.S.) Call or text 988 for immediate support if you or someone you love is in crisis. Support This Work Each episode of The Holistic Counselor Podcast takes hours of research, recording, and trauma-informed production to bring you thoughtful, faith-integrated conversations. If this episode encouraged you or helped expand your understanding of systems, recovery, or family dynamics, one way to support the show is through the merch store: Explore the collection: https://theholisticcounselorpodcast.printful.me/ If this conversation resonated, please consider leaving a review or sharing the episode with someone who may benefit. Your support helps more listeners discover these healing conversations.

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The Holistic Counselor Podcast is where faith, psychology, and whole-person wellness meet. Hosted by Diana S. Rice, LMHC, CIMHP, QS—a licensed mental health counselor, integrative practitioner, and storyteller based in South Florida—this podcast offers grounded, compassionate conversations for anyone seeking emotional healing, mental clarity, spiritual growth, and healthier relationships. Episodes feature a wide range of voices: therapists, physicians, attorneys, pastors, educators, authors, wellness practitioners, and advocates. Together, we explore trauma recovery, nervous system health, neuroplasticity, boundaries, identity, spiritual formation, church hurt, anxiety, resilience, integrative wellness, creativity, and the real stories that shape us. Some conversations reflect Diana's Christian perspective and theology; others center on clinical insight, cultural context, or holistic practices. All episodes share the same intention: reducing stigma, elevating mental-health literacy, honoring diverse lived experiences, and supporting whole-person transformation. This podcast is a safe space for clinicians, faith leaders, creatives, parents, and anyone on a healing journey—whether you come from a church background, a deconstructing season, a holistic wellness path, or simply curiosity about mental and emotional health. Florida therapy services: www.throughthevalleytherapy.com (Florida residents only) Consulting, coaching, and educational work: www.transformedmindcc.com Support the podcast and help keep it independent by visiting the merch store: https://theholisticcounselorpodcast.printful.me/ Educational only; not therapy, diagnosis, or medical care.

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  • Creator
    Diana S. Rice, LMHC, CIMHP, QS
  • Years Active
    2024 - 2026
  • Episodes
    114
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    Explicit
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