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I’m Gavin Newsom. And, it’s time to have a conversation. It’s time to have honest discussions with people that agree AND disagree with us. It's time to answer the hard questions and be open to criticism, and debate without demeaning or dehumanizing one other. I will be doing just that on my new podcast – inviting people on who I deeply disagree with to talk about the most pressing issues of the day and inviting listeners from around the country to join the conversation. THIS is Gavin Newsom.

  1. Oct 7

    And, This Is Bestselling Author Michael Lewis On Elon Musk, DOGE and His Newest Book “Blockers”

    Bestselling author Michael Lewis (Moneyball, The Big Short, The Blind Side) joins the show to talk about his new book, Blockers: Rebels in the Deep State, and what he found reporting on the Trump administration's war against federal civil servants.Lewis often writes about overlooked people inside massive, misunderstood systems, from Wall Street to baseball to government scientists.  In his newest work, he explains how Elon Musk's DOGE actually operated inside agencies like the IRS and NIH, why career civil servants became targets, and what happens when the trust in our government finally collapses. Lewis's new book Blockers: Rebels in the Deep State is out now. 00:00 Opening00:25 Talking To Bannon, Kirk And Understanding Your Enemies7:24 Which Of Michael Lewis’s Subjects Was Most Pissed At Him10:35 How Michael Lewis Decides On His Subjects 18:07 Who Can Tell The Story of Trump’s Second Term  24:42 The Big Question Lewis Asked Himself Before Writing Blockers30:03 Elon Musk, DOGE &  The Origin Of The Term “Blockers” 36:23 What The Hell is The US Institute of Peace?43:22 Government Is Moneyball All Over The Place47:45 How Trump Tries To Weaponize Data Against Undocumented Workers54:33 Better Information Leads To Societal Progress 1:00:06 The Immigrant Who Changed How We Fight Fires vs. The Trump Chaos Machine1:17:46 Trump vs. The NIH: Who Killed The Scientist Curing Our Diseases? 1:25:09 How People Really Deal With RFK Jr. 1:29:31 The Backdoor That DOGE Used to Fire Millions1:34: 36 Trump is A Trust Destroying Machine & Where Trump Goes Next1:38:16 How Permanent Is Trump’s Harm To Government? 1:45:58 How Reagan Ruined America’s Covid Response & Helped Trump Weaponize Grievance 1:51:15 A Sign Of Hope From A Former DOGE Employee  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

  2. Oct 1

    And, This Is How We Rectify Our Racial Legacy With Bryan Stevenson

    Governor Newsom begins by sharing how his visit with Bryan Stevenson, civil rights attorney, & founder of the Equal Justice Initiative inspired recent legislation. Live from the Legacy Museum and the National Memorial for Peace and Justice in Montgomery Alabama, Stevenson joins the podcast to discuss the politics of fear and anger and why America never reckoned with the narrative that justified slavery. He shares how the Supreme Court might decide Brown v. Board of Education today, what the gutting of the Voting Rights Act means for Black political power, and why DEI efforts fell apart.They then cover reparations, censorship,  mass incarceration and America’s legacy when it comes to the death penalty before finally ending with  a message of hope for anyone exhausted by this political moment. 00:00 A Conversation That Inspired A Bill Signing1:10 The Politics Of Fear And Anger4:03 Slavery's Real Evil Was the Narrative6:26 How Narratives Change8:20 Struggling With American Identity13:20 Why Build a National Memory & Legacy Museum17:35 Why The Shelby County Decision Changed Everything25:28 Why We've Gone Backwards31:08 How DEI Caused Resentment37:10 What Reparations Really Means46:30 Why Am I Responsible For Previous Generations’ Suffering?51:01 Rewriting History & The Montgomery Bus Boycott59:23 Could Brown v. Board Be Won Today?1:04:45 Rev. James Lawson: Do Hard Things1:12:17 Counter Narratives & Censorship 1:17:54 Mass Incarceration and the Death Penalty1:35:30 Should California Commute Its Death Row?1:39:50 What Do You Say to Victims' Families?1:45:38 Is There Any Reason For Hope?   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I’m Gavin Newsom. And, it’s time to have a conversation. It’s time to have honest discussions with people that agree AND disagree with us. It's time to answer the hard questions and be open to criticism, and debate without demeaning or dehumanizing one other. I will be doing just that on my new podcast – inviting people on who I deeply disagree with to talk about the most pressing issues of the day and inviting listeners from around the country to join the conversation. THIS is Gavin Newsom.

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