Ski in-Sell Out!

Max Doilney and Lauren Angerosa
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**Ski In Sell Out** is a Park City, Utah podcast about the people, stories, careers, businesses, and big life decisions that shape a mountain town. Hosted by Park City real estate professionals Max Doilney and Lauren Angerosa, the conversations go well beyond real estate. Entrepreneurs, athletes, business leaders, locals, newcomers, and interesting people from all walks of life share what they’ve built, what they’ve learned, what they’ve screwed up, and what matters when the definition of success starts to change. Expect candid conversations about career pivots, money, family, community, real estate, mountain life, and the strange paths people take to get where they are. No pitches. No polished success stories. Just interesting people talking about real life — usually with a few unexpected turns along the way. Based in Park City and the Wasatch Back, **Ski In Sell Out** is where mountain-town culture, ambitious people, and real life collide.

  1. 1d ago

    We Farm Tourists - Charlie Sturgis

    Charlie Sturgis came west from Chicago in 1973, skied Snowbird in blue jeans during a storm and pretty quickly figured out he wasn’t going back. What followed is intertwined with the story of Park City itself. Charlie worked at Wasatch Touring when backcountry ski gear was still being invented. He took over White Pine in the mid-1980s just as mountain biking was becoming a thing. He survived winters when there wasn’t snow until January, opened a shop on a Main Street so quiet you could practically roll a bowling ball down it, and learned that sometimes selling one pair of sunglasses on a rainy day counted as a win. Then came Mountain Trails Foundation. Charlie helped take an organization with very little money and approached it like a business: buy the equipment, pay people properly, understand what the work actually costs and build something sustainable. By the time he left, Mountain Trails had money in the bank, its own building, employees with real benefits and a trail system that had become inseparable from the identity of Park City. But this episode is really about something bigger. It’s about how communities get built. Not through some perfectly executed master plan, but by people who show up, solve the problem in front of them, take a few chances, bump into each other around town and occasionally decide, over a bottle of wine, to say yes to the next thing. This is a little Park City history, a little outdoor-industry history and a lot of Charlie. Maybe someday he’ll actually write The Book of Charlie. Until then, this is a pretty good chapter.

    We Farm Tourists - Charlie Sturgis

  2. Oct 13

    Utah Is Pretty Damn Good - Nathan Rafferty

    Nathan Rafferty has seen a lot of the world. He’s raced motorcycles across deserts, traveled extensively, spent decades inside Utah’s ski industry and built a life in Park City. And after all of it? Utah is pretty damn good. Nathan started at Ski Utah as an unpaid intern, worked the front desk, moved into PR and eventually became President and CEO. We talk about that unlikely path, how Utah skiing has changed, raising kids with a little discomfort, the value of travel, racing the Dakar Rally, playing the long game and why perspective matters. There’s plenty of skiing in this one. But mostly, it’s a conversation about recognizing a good thing when you’ve got it. Nathan Rafferty is President and CEO of Ski Utah and a longtime Park City resident. Ski In Sell Out is a Park City, Utah Real Estate team and podcast hosted by Max Doilney and Lauren Angerosa, featuring conversations with the people shaping Park City, the Wasatch Back and the community we call home.

    Utah Is Pretty Damn Good - Nathan Rafferty

  3. Oct 5

    LOCAL is a Verb! - Andy Beerman

    Being local isn't about how long you've been somewhere. It's about what you do once you're there. Andy Beerman came to Park City in 1995 without much of a plan beyond finding a way to stay in the mountains. Before that there was Ohio, NOLS, Alaska, mountaineering, a climbing accident and a Salt Lake climbing gym. Then came White Pine Touring, couch surfing in Park City, buying a house he could barely afford, meeting Thea because she bought skis and decided he looked hungry, and eventually taking on Treasure Mountain Inn. Somewhere along the way, business ownership turned into HOA politics. HOA politics turned into community involvement. And community involvement turned into ten years of public service, including four years as Mayor of Park City and the small complication of trying to run a ski town through COVID. Max and Andy served together during those years, which Andy describes as the public-service equivalent of going to war together. But this isn't really an episode about politics. It's about choosing where you want to be, putting down roots, doing work that lasts, knowing when you've done enough, and remembering why people keep choosing Park City in the first place. Andy makes a pretty good case that the person who arrived six months ago may love this place every bit as much as the person who's been here for 30 years. Local, it turns out, might be a verb.

    LOCAL is a Verb! - Andy Beerman

  4. Sep 28

    Wait, You Studied Chinese? - Malena Stevens

    What does a county clerk do when she’s not being a county clerk? In Melina Stevens’ case, quite a bit. This week, Max and Lauren sit down with Melina to talk about the road from California’s Central Valley to Summit County, with stops at BYU, a semester studying in China, and nine years working as a victim advocate with the Park City Police Department. A move to Florida that never happened somehow turned into a life in Park City. As these things tend to do. We get into the work of showing up for people on their worst days, why she decided to run for office, what it’s like to raise a kid while working in government, and why travel has become such an important part of her life. And then the conversation goes somewhere a little different: perfectionism, the expectations we inherit, and learning to build a life that feels like your own. There’s some local government in here. There’s also China, Southern Italy, a sailing trip across the Mediterranean, and a pretty great answer to where she hopes to be in ten years. Turns out the person behind the public role is usually the more interesting story.

    Wait, You Studied Chinese? - Malena Stevens

  5. Sep 21

    Where's The Art?

    Aldy Milliken’s path to Park City makes almost no sense until you hear the whole thing. He started college studying economics, found photography, chased the art world to New York, drove a baby-blue Volvo into the Utah desert to see four giant concrete tubes, bought a one-way ticket to Southeast Asia, became an elementary school teacher, opened a gallery in Stockholm, reconnected with his future wife through a postcard, spent nearly two decades abroad, landed in Louisville and eventually found his way to the Kimball Art Center. And somehow, the thread through all of it is pretty clear. This episode is about art, education, taking opportunities when they show up, finding your voice, and what happens when a lifetime of seemingly unrelated experiences starts to make sense looking backward. It’s also about Park City, leadership, experiential education and why slowing down long enough to understand the person sitting next to you might be more important than we give it credit for. We also get corrected on our liberal use of the word “curated.” Fair enough.

    Where's The Art?

  6. Sep 16

    $20,000 and 50 Powder Days!

    Bob Peek came to Park City in 1981 for what was supposed to be a semester off. Then he got a job parking cars and shoveling sidewalks during Deer Valley's first season, started painting houses with his brother, made about $20,000 a year, skied roughly 50 days and figured he had things pretty well dialed. His dad wasn't so sure. Nearly 40 years later, that painting company is still here. Except Bob doesn't own it anymore. His son Jonas does. The funny part is Jonas wasn't waiting around for it. He grew up in Park City, left for college, became a software developer, worked at Amazon and startups and built the kind of career that looked pretty damn good on paper. Then he started wondering why it wasn't particularly fulfilling. Eventually, he started looking differently at the business he'd grown up around. This conversation is about a painting company, but not really. It's about leaving home so you can understand it. Building a business for one reason and watching the next generation find an entirely different reason to keep it. The difference between impressive work and meaningful work. Family businesses, Park City, community, powder days, expensive toys and the strange satisfaction of making something tangible happen. Bob built a business that let him live here. Jonas discovered it might let him build a life here. Turns out Dad may have been onto something. Ski In Sell Out with Max Doilney and Lauren Angerosa. Real estate is what we do. People are why we keep turning on the microphones.

    $20,000 and 50 Powder Days!

  7. Sep 7

    35 - A River Guide Walks Into Sundance...

    Chris Conabee’s résumé makes almost no sense until you hear him tell the story. He grew up in Newark, landed at Brighton High School with a Jersey accent, went back east to work on Wall Street, earned his MBA at Columbia, left it all to care for his mom, came back west, worked Sundance, guided the Grand Canyon and eventually found his way into development and building in Utah. Chris describes life as a tree: you eventually end up on a leaf you never could have picked from the ground, but when you trace every branch back, somehow the path makes sense. But what really stood out in this conversation was how often people showed up at exactly the right time. Friends, coworkers and mentors kept grabbing Chris by the elbow and pointing him toward whatever came next. We talk about old friends who knew you before the résumé, losing his mom, fear of failure, building things, Utah culture, the legislature, housing, raising kids and why—despite the traffic, growth and changes—Chris still thinks this is a pretty remarkable place to call home. We didn't get through half of what we wanted to ask him. Which is probably the sign of a good conversation.

    35 - A River Guide Walks Into Sundance...

  8. Aug 31

    34 - Who Do You Want to Be This Time? Charlie Johnson

    What happens when your life never really follows the plan? Charlie Johnson moved to Park City for his senior year of high school after growing up around Pittsburgh, and almost immediately found something here that would shape the rest of his life: community. From Park City to Montana, New York City, rural courtrooms, San Francisco and the renewable energy industry, Charlie’s path has been anything but linear. Along the way he studied history, worked on hip-hop music videos, went to law school, clerked for a judge in rural Montana, found his way into large-scale renewable energy real estate, and kept returning to the relationships and places that helped make him who he is. Now, at 50, Charlie is in another completely new chapter: fatherhood. Charlie joins Max and Lauren for a conversation about moving, reinventing yourself, the strange freedom of starting somewhere new, career paths that make sense only in hindsight, becoming a parent later in life, aging parents, family, friendship and why community becomes increasingly important as we get older. It’s a conversation about transition—but maybe even more about what stays with us through all of it.

    34 - Who Do You Want to Be This Time? Charlie Johnson
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About

**Ski In Sell Out** is a Park City, Utah podcast about the people, stories, careers, businesses, and big life decisions that shape a mountain town. Hosted by Park City real estate professionals Max Doilney and Lauren Angerosa, the conversations go well beyond real estate. Entrepreneurs, athletes, business leaders, locals, newcomers, and interesting people from all walks of life share what they’ve built, what they’ve learned, what they’ve screwed up, and what matters when the definition of success starts to change. Expect candid conversations about career pivots, money, family, community, real estate, mountain life, and the strange paths people take to get where they are. No pitches. No polished success stories. Just interesting people talking about real life — usually with a few unexpected turns along the way. Based in Park City and the Wasatch Back, **Ski In Sell Out** is where mountain-town culture, ambitious people, and real life collide.

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  • Creator
    Max Doilney and Lauren Angerosa
  • Years Active
    2025 - 2026
  • Episodes
    41
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Show Website
    Ski in-Sell Out!

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