The Breadwinners Podcast

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They say you can't have it all — that mothers must choose between ambition and presence. But what if we're asking the wrong question? On The Breadwinners Podcast, Alexis Contos redefines what it means to be a Breadwinner in modern culture, moving it far beyond the paycheck. Through raw, honest conversations with women like Morgan Zanotti (CEO of Primal Kitchen), Nicole Trunfio (CEO of Bumpsuit), and Eve Rodsky (Author of Fair Play & Find Your Unicorn Space), we explore what it really takes to bring financial richness, emotional richness, and systemic change to our families. This isn't about balance, it's about integration. Not perfection, but wholeness. Whether you're already navigating motherhood and career, building your empire before kids arrive, or reimagining what family leadership looks like, these conversations will challenge everything you've been told about what's possible. The Breadwinners: Where ambitious mothers aren't just earning a living, they're pioneering a new era for themselves, and everyone who comes next. Learn more at thebreadwinners.co.

  1. 1d ago

    Dr. Joyce Park on Hair Loss, Scalp Health, and Treating the Root Cause | The Breadwinners Podcast

    Why are so many women losing their hair right now? Dermatologist Dr. Joyce Park, creator of Tea with MD and founder of KERATIV, explains how postpartum, perimenopause, GLP-1 medications and major stress all hit the scalp, and what actually helps. Six weeks after a C-section, Joyce was on a plane to the biggest dermatology conference of the year. In this episode of The Breadwinners, she and host Alexis Contos talk about what she’d do differently, why she left the traditional hospital model to build her own virtual practice, and the family systems that hold up two demanding careers. In this episode: Hair shedding vs. hair thinning: how to tell the difference Why hair falls out three to four months after childbirth, surgery or rapid weight loss (telogen effluvium) GLP-1s like Ozempic and hair loss Does Rogaine (minoxidil) work? A dermatologist’s honest answer Why she left 15-minute hospital appointments for a virtual practice House managers, nearby grandparents and batching work around school hours Her Breadwinner Artifacts: an IVF photo, the cooler that got her through pumping on international flights, and a homemade YouTube plaque About Dr. Joyce ParkDr. Joyce Park is a Stanford- and NYU-trained dermatologist, the creator behind Tea with MD, and founder of KERATIV, a scalp-first hair care brand. She runs a virtual dermatology practice from Seattle. Community offer: 10% off your first KERATIV purchase with code WEARETHEBREADWINNERS, Nov 10–17. https://www.kerativ.com/discount/WEARETHEBREADWINNERS Mentioned in this episode:KERATIV (sold only at kerativ.com): https://kerativ.comCeres Chill: https://www.cereschill.comFollow Dr. Joyce Park: @teawithmd and @kerativhair Join The Breadwinners community: Subscribe on Substack: wearethebreadwinners.substack.com Follow on Instagram: @wearethebreadwinners Rate & review wherever you listen - it helps more women find this show Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    Dr. Joyce Park on Hair Loss, Scalp Health, and Treating the Root Cause | The Breadwinners Podcast

  2. Nov 3

    Saved Seats | Neha Ruch on the Best Payback: Loving Your Life When No One's Watching | The Breadwinners Podcast

    **This is a replay from an earlier episode** Twenty years ago, Neha Ruch and I were colleagues at an ad agency in Boston. Two twenty-somethings staying late, expensing cab rides home, measuring our worth by how hard we hustled. Today, between us, we have six kids, two platforms, and a completely different definition of what it means to be ambitious. Neha is the founder of and the author of the book by the same name. For a decade she's been building language for a question most high-achieving women won't say out loud: if I'm not working for pay, what is success? This isn't an interview. It's a reunion - two old friends comparing notes on what the journey actually cost, and what it gave back.In this episode, we talk about: Why the real turning point in Neha's life came in motherhood, not business school How to write your ideal day, and why it works like a contract with yourself The invisible emotional labor of parenthood, and how to start noticing it again Making decisions that no one else has to understand, and why that's the hardest muscle to build Growing up alongside your kids as they need less of you Redefining ambition as aligning your time with your values, not maximizing your output Why we punish women for slowing down, and what it costs all of us The best payback: loving your life when no one is watching _______________________________ The Four Agreements book mentioned by Neha Find Neha at www.thepowerpause.com and on Instagram at @neha_ruch Subscribe to The Breadwinners at wearethebeadwinners.substack.com Follow on Instagram: @wearethebreadwinners Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

  3. Oct 27

    Caroline Jones on Ambition, Motherhood, and Owning Your Career | The Breadwinners Podcast

    Caroline Jones built her identity on ambition, hard work, and never needing anything from anyone. Then motherhood shook the snow globe. Caroline is a country singer, songwriter, and full-time member of Zac Brown Band. She booked her own tours of New England schools while still in college and didn't have a manager until 24. She brings that same founder instinct to raising her three-year-old son, Declan, with her husband, a professional sailor. We recorded in Nashville and talked about everything: the postpartum anxiety she didn't recognize until later, going back on tour at four months postpartum, and the night signals that now tell her to take something off her plate. She shares the advice Jewel gave her about harmony over balance, why she wrote "Becca" for her best friend, a stay-at-home mom, and what it means to take your hands off the wheel for a second child. She closes the episode with a live performance of "All the Things," her rally cry for working moms. In this episode: - Why her mom pulled her out of prep school, and what it taught Caroline about trusting kids to know themselves - Owning your career early: booking yourself, learning to produce, and Jewel's example of ownership - Delegating without guilt: the parenting tasks she hands off and the ones she'd never give up - Knowing your signs, saying it out loud, and the Courage to Confide campaign - Weekend Warrior touring and routing her own tour every other weekend around her family - Harmony over balance: treating the family as one organism where everyone's needs count - The deathbed exercise for women unsure about having kids About Caroline Jones: Caroline Jones is a singer, songwriter, multi-instrumentalist, and member of Zac Brown Band, which she joined in 2021 after opening for the band in 2017. Rolling Stone called her "an ambitious, entrepreneurial guitar heroine primed to bring back the pop-country glory of the Nineties." Her album Good Omen takes on marriage, motherhood, friendship, and divorce, subjects country music rarely gives women in their 30s. Mentioned: Wildling barefoot shoes Check out the release of Caroline's new song 'Your Wife Is Dead' which premiers on 10/30 Join The Breadwinners community: Subscribe on Substack: wearethebreadwinners.substack.com Follow on Instagram: @wearethebreadwinners Rate & review wherever you listen. It helps more women find this show. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

  4. Oct 20

    Saved Seats | Alison Fragale on Why You Do Care What People Think | The Breadwinners Podcast

    *This is a replayed episode from an earlier conversation* The formula for women's success isn't what you've been told. It's not your title, your salary, or your track record. It's your status — how much others respect and value you. And the way women build it is completely different from what most of us have been taught. Alison Fragale is an organizational psychologist, tenured professor, former McKinsey consultant, and the author of the national bestseller Likable Badass: How Women Get the Success They Deserve. She has spent 20 years studying status, influence, and how women can build both — without compromising who they are. In this episode, Alexis Contos and Alison unpack the real science behind what makes women respected, valued, and powerful — at work, at home, and everywhere in between. What you'll learn in this episode: 🔬 Why status is a resource — just like money and health — and how to build and spend it strategically 💡 The "caring + capable" equation: the two signals that determine how others perceive you (and what most women get wrong) 🧠 How Alison went from feeling like a fraud at McKinsey to building a 20-year career on the one thing she was told wasn't serious: reading people 📊 Why "I don't care what people think" is a story we only tell ourselves when we're in pain — and what to say instead 🎭 The resting bitch face problem — and what it teaches us about non-verbal status signals 👩‍👧‍👦 Why the way you parent multiple kids is the exact same skill as influencing people at work (and why we feel proud of one but ashamed of the other) ✈️ What an American Airlines Concierge Key reveals about status symbols vs. actual status 🏗️ How to build status before you need it — and why career transitions feel so disorienting 💬 The fastest way to build status in a room full of strangers 🤝 Why women wait too long to negotiate — and what to do about it Whether you're navigating corporate life, building something new, or figuring out how to show up differently in 2026, this conversation will change how you walk into your next room. 📚 Books mentioned: Likable Badass by Alison Fragale Quit by Annie Duke Deep Work by Cal Newport Talk by Alison Wood Brooks 🥂 Join The Breadwinners community: → ⁠Subscribe to our Substack⁠ → ⁠Follow on Instagram⁠ → Rate & review wherever you listen to our pod — it helps more women find our show 🔗 Connect with Alison Fragale: → Alison's Instagram → www.alisonfragale.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

  5. Oct 13

    I Peed on the Tennis Court! | Dr. Sara Reardon on the Pelvic Floor Care Every Woman Deserves | The Breadwinners Podcast

    Leaking when you sneeze, jump rope or lunge for a ball on the tennis court is common. Dr. Sara Reardon wants every woman to stop accepting it as the price of having children - because it's not normal. Dr Sara Reardon is a board-certified pelvic floor physical therapist, known to more than 750,000 followers as The Vagina Whisperer. She and Alexis cover the pelvic floor at every stage, from a first period to perimenopause. Alexis talks about her forceps delivery and the day she peed on the tennis court. Sara admits the same thing happened to her a few months ago, in hot pink leggings. In this episode: What the pelvic floor actually is, and how it changes from your teens through perimenopause Why your muscles are working at about 50% when you’re cleared for exercise at six weeks postpartum Why C-section moms need pelvic floor rehab too Three daily habits that protect your pelvic floor: don’t push when you pee, don’t strain when you poop, and exhale when you lift Pushing positions and breathing during labor, including options with an epidural Why it’s never too late to get care, even ten years postpartum- Raising kids who talk openly about their bodies, and parenting middle schoolers with “a compass, not the map” Dr. Sara Reardon is a board-certified pelvic floor physical therapist with 20 years in practice and the creator of The Vagina Whisperer, where she teaches pelvic health with humor and zero shame. She built and sold a pelvic floor clinic in New Orleans, wrote Floored: A Woman’s Guide to Pelvic Floor Health at Every Age and Stage, and built an app for at-home pelvic floor training. She lives in New Orleans with her husband and two sons. Find Sara: Instagram: @thevaginawhisperer Website: thevaginawhisperer.com (free guides, her book, and a 7-day free trial of her app) Book: Floored, available on Amazon Join The Breadwinners community: Subscribe on Substack: wearethebreadwinners.substack.com Follow on Instagram: @wearethebreadwinners Rate & review wherever you listen - it helps more women find this show Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

  6. Oct 6

    Saved Seats | Devon McDonald on the Secrets Successful Women Keep: Burnout, Mom Shame, & Rebuilding with Intention

    **This is a replay from a previous episode** What does it feel like to reach the pinnacle of your career — and realize it no longer fits? Devon McDonald spent 17 years in venture capital, rising to General Partner at OpenView Ventures while raising three kids and serving as the financial anchor for her family. In March 2020, OpenView had its largest exit ever when Datadog went public, returning the fund ten times over. On paper, it was the moment she'd worked her entire career for. On the inside? Devon was sitting alone in her car, listening to meditation audiobooks, wondering why she felt desperate to escape. In this raw, honest conversation, Devon and Alexis explore what happens when the life you built for everyone else stops fitting who you're becoming — and what it actually takes to rebuild. Devon opens up about the warning signs she ignored for years: the physical symptoms of chronic stress, the shame spiral of working-mom guilt, the perfectionism and control that masked how much she was struggling. She shares the terrifying work of dismantling a life that looked perfect from the outside — losing 30 pounds, hiring a psychologist and spiritual coach, learning nervous system regulation, setting boundaries at work, transitioning out of her GP role, and ultimately leaving her marriage. Today, Devon is the co-founder of Second Harvest, a retreat for high-achieving leaders at midlife who are ready for something more aligned to their inner truth. This episode is for every breadwinner mother who has ever sat in her car just to breathe. What we cover: - The moment Devon realized her biggest career win felt completely hollow - How the body signals misalignment long before the mind catches up - Mom shame, working-mother guilt, and why high-achieving women don't talk about it - The role of nervous system regulation, somatic awareness, and spiritual coaching in Devon's transformation - Why divorce made her a better, more present mother - What "high achieving" actually means — and who Second Harvest is really for - How to build community rooted in giving, not performing Connect with Devon McDonald: 🌿 secondharvest.co 💼 LinkedIn: Devon McDonald 📸 Instagram: @second_harvest_retreats __________________________ Connect with The Breadwinners: 📩 Substack: wearethebreadwinners.substack.com Instagram: wearethebreadwinners __________________________ 🎙️ Rate + Subscribe wherever you listen — it helps us reach the women who need to know they're not alone. __________________________ #WomenInBusiness #HighAchievingWomen #career #BurnoutRecovery #WorkingMom #mom #MidlifeWomen #CareerTransition #WomenLeaders Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

  7. Sep 30

    How real belonging gets built | A conversation with Marika Frumes of Mysha

    Everyone is calling everything a community right now. Marika Frumes has spent six years building the real thing, and she knows the difference. Alexis sits down with Marika, founder of Mysha, the morning after the two co-hosted a dinner in Austin. Marika shares how a WhatsApp group of 18 expecting moms in January 2020 became a lifeline during the pandemic and grew into Mysha. She also opens up, for the first time on a podcast, about immigrating from the former Soviet Union at seven with $400. She talks about the childhood experiences that shaped why she builds spaces where everyone feels safe. In this episode: How Mysha started with one Facebook post and a WhatsApp group Marika's immigration story and the promise she made to herself in middle school The difference between a community and a group, and why it matters for brands How to create safety in a room before asking anyone to be vulnerable Why community should grow slowly, and what it takes to build a culture of value Join The Breadwinners community: Subscribe on Substack: wearethebreadwinners.substack.com Follow on Instagram: @wearethebreadwinners Rate & review wherever you listen - it helps more women find this show Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

  8. Sep 22

    Saved Seats | Patrice Meagher on Building Systems to Support Working Moms in the Workplace

    In this episode, Alexis Contos sits down with Patrice Meagher, a 20-year Commercial Real Estate veteran turned Founder and CEO of MilkMate. After spending two decades leasing millions of square feet in Manhattan , Patrice realized that while we can fly to space, the most "innovative" solution for pumping at work was still a storage closet or a bathroom stall. Patrice shares her journey of leaving a successful corporate career to solve a problem that had plagued her through four children: the inefficiency and indignity of pumping in the workplace. She breaks down her famous "Coffee Pot Analogy" - asking men to imagine brewing their morning coffee in a bathroom stall while disrobing and carrying equipment back and forth - to illustrate the absurdity of the status quo. In this conversation, Patrice discusses the "tipping point" for working mothers - that moment when one small thing (like a forgotten pump part) causes the mental load to crumble. She opens up about the daunting process of gaining FDA clearance for MilkMate , the wisdom she carries from her late father’s "Don’t Quit" motto , and why she believes working moms are the most efficient workers in the universe. Whether you are an employer looking to support your team or a parent navigating the "drip effect" of balancing career and family , this episode offers a blueprint for how we can evolve the workplace—bird by bird, step by step. Join The Breadwinners community: The Breadwinners on Substack - wearethebreadwinners.substack.com Follow in Instagram: @wearethebreadwinners Rate & review wherever you listen - it helps more women find this show Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

    Saved Seats | Patrice Meagher on Building Systems to Support Working Moms in the Workplace
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They say you can't have it all — that mothers must choose between ambition and presence. But what if we're asking the wrong question? On The Breadwinners Podcast, Alexis Contos redefines what it means to be a Breadwinner in modern culture, moving it far beyond the paycheck. Through raw, honest conversations with women like Morgan Zanotti (CEO of Primal Kitchen), Nicole Trunfio (CEO of Bumpsuit), and Eve Rodsky (Author of Fair Play & Find Your Unicorn Space), we explore what it really takes to bring financial richness, emotional richness, and systemic change to our families. This isn't about balance, it's about integration. Not perfection, but wholeness. Whether you're already navigating motherhood and career, building your empire before kids arrive, or reimagining what family leadership looks like, these conversations will challenge everything you've been told about what's possible. The Breadwinners: Where ambitious mothers aren't just earning a living, they're pioneering a new era for themselves, and everyone who comes next. Learn more at thebreadwinners.co.

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