Episode Summary Does shame hold neurodivergent people back? In Episode 2, we unpack the links between shame, trauma, bias, disclosure, and self-worth, while also exploring resilience, creativity, advocacy, and what becomes possible on the other side of shame. What We Cover How shame can shape the neurodivergent experienceThe link between shame, trauma, and the internal criticHealthy shame vs toxic shameSelf-esteem, inferiority, and feeling held backVisibility of traits, disclosure, and workplace challengesJob interviews, communication differences, and body languageCultural bias, affinity bias, and barriers to inclusionDyslexia, disclosure, and neurodivergence in employmentIntersectionality and overlapping lived experiencesNeurodivergence in prisons and wider systemic inequalityMedication, chemical sensitivity, and individual differencesSelf-advocacy, finding your voice, and building confidenceResilience and creativityPeople pleasing and trouble saying “no”Authenticity, reframing, and what can lie on the other side of shame About the Guest Emma Lord-Jenkins is the founder of Rethink Inclusion, providing consultancy and neurodiversity training informed by both professional and lived experience. With a background in careers guidance and supported employment, and as a late-diagnosed ADHDer, Emma is passionate about creating inclusive workplaces and removing barriers for neurodivergent people across all areas of life. Find Emma: Website: Rethink Inclusion LinkedIn: Emma Lord | LinkedIn Instagram: @rethink_inclusion Why This Conversation Matters Neurodivergent individuals are too often misunderstood through deficit-based narratives and outdated assumptions. In this episode, we explore the relationship between shame and neurodivergence through lived experience, challenging stigma and inviting more inclusive ways of thinking. About The Neurodivergent Lens The Neurodivergent Lens is a video podcast exploring neurodivergence through thoughtful conversations and lived experience. Through interviews with individuals of lived and professional insight, the podcast challenges assumptions, reduces stigma, and promotes a strengths-based understanding of neurodivergent identity. This podcast is brought to you by Dyscourse — a consultancy, training and mentoring organisation working to change how society understands and supports neurodivergent people. Watch, Listen & Connect Watch & Subscribe on YouTube: @TheNeurodivergentLensPodcast Website: https://dyscourse.org/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/4wVeWmS Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6Vzy9a6fLbo3YnmNUuiM43 Download our free PDF guide on Myths & Misconceptions: https://dyscourse.org/ (above footer) Follow: Instagram: @the.neurodivergent.lens LinkedIn: Dyscourse Facebook: TheNeurodivergentLens Disclaimer: This content is for educational purposes and is not a substitute for professional support. Please seek qualified guidance where needed.