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Race, inequality, and economics in the US and throughout the world from Glenn Loury, Professor of Economics at Brown University and Paulson Senior Fellow at the Manhattan Institute

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Race, inequality, and economics in the US and throughout the world from Glenn Loury, Professor of Economics at Brown University and Paulson Senior Fellow at the Manhattan Institute

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    John McWhorter – Glenn and John Go Across the Pond

    John McWhorter – Glenn and John Go Across the Pond

    0:00 Glenn and John go to Cambridge
    9:25 The Hamline University Prophet Muhammad controversy 
    14:38 John: “Physics is physics”
    18:45 The Harlem Renaissance and Black Studies
    26:35 Is “getting past race” more trouble than it’s worth?
    36:51 Is Joe Biden patronizing black people?
    42:59 How a black musical changed the sound of Broadway 
    Recorded January 20, 2023
    Links and Readings
    The Equiano Project
    Arnold Rampersand’s biography of Langston Hughes
    John’s 2002 City Journal piece, “The Mau-Mauing at Harvard”
    Glenn and John’s recent conversation with Greg Thomas
    Caseen Gaines’s book, When Broadway Was Black


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    • 52 min
    Steven Koonin – Climate Science’s Unsettled Questions

    Steven Koonin – Climate Science’s Unsettled Questions

    0:00 Steven’s best-selling book, Unsettled: What Climate Science Tells Us, What It Doesn’t, and Why It Matters
    2:38 Steven: Concerns about catastrophic climate change “beggar belief”
    9:43 The complexities of climate change models
    15:07 Should we worry about rising sea levels?
    24:54 Hurricanes, tornados, and other extreme weather events
    29:59 Is a zero-emissions goal worth the cost?
    38:05 How to fix climate science
    45:02 Are the Paris Accords viable?
    48:13 The coming climate backlash
    Recorded January 3, 2023
    Links and Readings
    Steven’s book, Unsettled: What Climate Science Tells Us, What It Doesn’t, and Why It Matters
    Steven’s recent Wall Street Journal op-ed, “Will Climate Change Really Put New York Underwater?”
    Steven’s 2022 Wall Street Journal op-ed, “Greenland’s Melting Ice Is No Cause for Climate-Change Panic”


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    • 57 min
    The Best of Glenn and John 2022

    The Best of Glenn and John 2022

    0:00 A brief intro from Glenn
    1:03 The lionization of the lightweights
    5:45 The unified field theory of non-whiteness
    19:16 An honest conversation about crime
    27:51 Glenn’s birthday menu
    30:46 It’s time to choose a side
    41:46 Clarence Thomas, black icon
    44:54 Policing Joe Rogan
    51:56 By any means necessary?





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    • 1 hr 13 min
    Michael Sandel – The Tyranny of Merit

    Michael Sandel – The Tyranny of Merit

    This week I’m very pleased to have with me the political philosopher Michael Sandel. I’ve been an avid reader of Michael’s work for decades, ever since coming across his first book, Liberalism and the Limits of Justice in the 1980s. Michael’s latest book, 2020’s The Tyranny of Merit, couldn’t be more timely. In it, Michael elaborates a critique of the meritocratic ideology that divides society into winners and losers, each of which has earned the fate that has befallen them.
    In our conversation, Michael lays out his argument in the book, which takes issue with the notion that an individual’s economic success or failure is an index of their character. The idea that the wealthy deserve their wealth and the poor deserve their poverty ignores the powerful economic forces that shape the outcomes of people’s lives, forces that operate well outside the control of the people affected by them. We discuss the distinction between profit and value, and the ways that the cultural and economic rise of tech, finance, and knowledge work has stripped the dignity and honor from formerly dignified and honorable professions. The rise of populism since Trump’s election serves as compelling evidence that society’s “losers” recognize the bad hand they’ve been dealt, but Michael’s critique of meritocracy has made him an influential figure in China as well, where meritocracy is arguably an even more powerful cultural force.
    It’s an honor to have such a distinguished figure on the show. I have the feeling that what Michael says here will ring true for many of my listeners, so I’m looking forward to your comments.
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    Featured Content from City Journal
    Steven Malanga discusses why the middle class flees states that tax the rich. 
    0:00 Some of Michael’s key works
    4:01 Meritocratic ideals and meritocratic fantasies
    10:07 The animus against elites
    16:26 Shouldn’t innovators reap their rewards?
    23:09 Does more profit create more value?
    28:42 Renewing the dignity of work
    37:43 The uses of punishment
    43:57 Our responsibility to national and global communities
    46:17 Michael: Diversity has “monopolized” discussion of affirmative action
    52:52 China’s reception of Michael’s critique of meritocracy
    Recorded November 18, 2022
    Links and Readings
    Michael’s book, Liberalism and the Limits of Justice
    Michael’s book, What Money Can’t Buy: The Moral Limits of Markets
    Michael’s book, The Tyranny of Merit: Can We Find the Common Good?
    Michael Young’s book, The Rise of the Meritocracy
    Industrial Areas Foundation 


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    • 1 hr 2 min
    John McWhorter and Greg Thomas – Debating Deracialization

    John McWhorter and Greg Thomas – Debating Deracialization

    This week, John McWhorter and I are joined by Greg Thomas, senior fellow at the Institute for Cultural Evolution and CEO of the Jazz Leadership Project, to discuss one of our perennial Big Questions: Are we ready to deracialize? As you may have gathered from his previous TGS appearance, that’s the kind of issue Greg loves to sink his teeth into. But I do have some questions of my own for Greg. Let’s get into it.
    We begin with a little jazz talk. I ask Greg how he goes about incorporating the principles of the music into the workshops he leads with the Jazz Leadership Project. He goes on to explain how the history of jazz provides a way of understanding how we can begin to envision a society that moves past race. Greg uses the work of Albert Murray and Ralph Ellison as examples, but I want to know why I and other black people should have to abandon our racial self-identification? Surely this task can’t fall to black people alone. I suggest to Greg that he’s unjustifiably conflating black identity and the victim mentality—you can have the former without the latter. After a brief discussion about whiteness and deracialization, Greg departs, leaving John and me to do a quick review of 2022 and to look ahead to 2023.
    This is a fiery one! It’s our final episode of the year. Thank you all for watching, listening, and reading. John and I will be back in 2023. See you there!
    Featured Content from the Manhattan Institute
    Daniel Di Martino released a report with reforms to America’s immigration system, which is turning off high-skilled immigrants due to slow processing and unneeded bureaucracy.  
    0:00 The principles of jazz
    7:14 “Deracialization Now”
    13:00 Becoming Omni-American
    20:46 What’s wrong with racial identification?
    25:36 Black victimization and cultural memory
    35:15 The transformations of James Baldwin
    42:10 Convincing white people to deracialize
    48:40 Takeaways from 2022
    55:33 2023’s big Supreme Court decisions
    Links and Readings
    Jazz Leadership Project
    Institute for Cultural Evolution 
    BME Community
    Greg’s essay, “Deracialization Now” 
    Albert Murray’s book, The Omni-Americans: Some Alternatives to the Folklore of White Supremacy 
    John’s book, Talking Back, Talking Black: Truths about America’s Lingua Franca
    Kwame Anthony Appiah’s book, Cosmopolitanism: Ethics in a World of Strangers 
    Reconstruction.us 
    Abigail Thernstrom’s book, Whose Votes Count?: Affirmative Action and Minority Voting Rights 


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    • 1 hr
    Hamish McKenzie – Speaking Out in an Age of Partisan Rancor

    Hamish McKenzie – Speaking Out in an Age of Partisan Rancor

    0:00 Why Glenn does The Glenn Show
    13:02 Glenn: “If I was going to vote for Trump, I wouldn’t tell you”
    19:21 “The cat is out of the bag” on election denial
    25:45 Modeling epistemic modesty
    31:12 Why is race such an important issue for Glenn?
    39:13 The Old Glenn and the New Glenn
    45:46 Confronting the past
    50:44 Putting “the funk” on the story of your life
    Recorded October 27, 2022
    Links and Readings
    Hamish’s podcast, The Active Voice
    Emily Oster’s Substack
    Robert Wright’s Nonzero Newsletter
    Nonzero’s YouTube channel
    Matt Taibbi’s Substack
    Matt Taibbi’s book, Hate, Inc.: Why Today’s Media Makes Us Despise One Another
    Braver Angels
    John McWhorter’s book, Woke Racism: How a New Religion Has Betrayed Black America
    Benjamin Crump’s book, Open Season: Legalized Genocide of Colored People
    Glenn’s Quillette piece, “Unspeakable Truths about Racial Inequality in America”
    Glenn’s first Bloggingheads appearance, with Joshua Cohen in August 2007
    James Q. Wilson’s book, Thinking about Crime
    Rafael Mangual’s recent TGS appearance
    Andrew Sullivan’s Substack
    Alex Berenson’s Substack


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    • 57 min

Customer Reviews

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Mary Dowell ,

Incredible thought nuance

Glenn, I want to thank you for your fierce defense of democracy and free speech. I was listening to your greatest hits of 2022 episode and when I hear people explain that there are some outcomes so terrible that we should censor their information, I want to yell out exactly the response you gave. The fact is, there are a lot of people who disagree about Trump, many of which are not fervent supporters in a religious sense, but they have a very different idea of how things should be run. This is a valid debate that we MUST have and convince one another. It’s totally wrong to just assume that all of those people are so wrong that they don’t even deserve to have access to certain information that may or may not reinforce their position. You could not have said this more eloquently. Thank you for bringing clarity and practical sense to the conversation at all times.

Kimberly, is that you? ,

Thoughtful discussion

I really enjoy the Glenn Show.
Glenn Loury and his frequent co-host John McWhorter sometimes agree and sometimes don’t but the discussion is always thought-provoking and well worth listening to!

Rememberist ,

Glenn and John are so good to listen to

I just wish that I could have the kind of discussions with my friends, often at odds but always respectful, that these two men have.

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